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Sunday, May 2, 2021 10:07 AM
THG
Sunday, May 2, 2021 10:17 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, May 3, 2021 7:55 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right. Morals are preferences and by their very nature are entirely subjective. Some people even call them 'values' - ie we really really prefer, or 'value', one behavior over another - which only highlights their subjective nature even further. There are no objective morals. Because every moral can be questioned with 'why'. And every 'why' answer is a feeling of preference. Even the theoretical Vulcan value "the greatest good for the greatest number" begs the question 'What is good?'. Some might consider life to be the greatest good. Others might consider meaningful sacrifice to be the greatest good. Greeks and Romans thought bravery in the face of death being meted out by fate was the greatest good. And btw, your rejection of others' moral failings doesn't seem to have kept you from being an even bigger moral failure (and hypocrite). For example, even as you claim to abhor the mendacity of republicans, you come here and lie with every post. So what does that make you? A better republicans than the rank and file republicans?
Quote:Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right.
Monday, May 3, 2021 8:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Nope. Your numbers are lies. Use your brain.
Monday, May 3, 2021 8:57 AM
Monday, May 3, 2021 4:08 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: SLOPPY, you come here and lie with every post - then you criticize republicans for being liars. The only lesson I think you learned in Vietnam is that once you got scammed, it made you free to scam everyone else. And the only problem you have with Trump is that he was far more successful at it than you.
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:56 AM
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Deaths 584,116
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 10:05 AM
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:55 PM
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: I see the pussy trolls won't post what they believe the death toll from the virus is. No surprise there. They can't because they know the number is the one I've been updating. T
Friday, May 7, 2021 10:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Quote:Tens of thousands of Covid-19 deaths are going unreported in the U.S., with far more missed in counties that strongly supported former President Trump, according to new research. The figures suggest that political leanings have helped suppress the true scale of deaths. In cases where the deceased didn’t have a Covid-19 test, a coroner or medical examiner has the freedom to interpret symptoms. “There’s potentially latitude to make a judgement call conditional on a set of beliefs about Covid and whether it represents a serious problem or a hoax,” said Andrew Stokes, a professor of global health at Boston University School of Public Health who performed the analysis for STAT.
Friday, May 7, 2021 10:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO. New Study Says U.S. Covid Death Toll Is Actually 900,000, Far Higher Than Reported
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO.
Friday, May 7, 2021 10:24 AM
Friday, May 7, 2021 10:30 AM
Friday, May 7, 2021 11:05 AM
Monday, May 10, 2021 7:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: The death count of Covid is ZERO. It has always been ZERO.
Monday, May 10, 2021 8:25 AM
Monday, May 10, 2021 8:32 AM
Monday, May 10, 2021 9:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: CNN's medical analyst called Tucker Carlson a vaccine 'saboteur,' and challenged him to say if he has taken the jab https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cnn-s-medical-analyst-called-tucker-carlson-a-vaccine-saboteur-and-challenged-him-to-say-if-he-has-taken-the-jab/ar-BB1gz9Ec?ocid=msedgntp
Monday, May 10, 2021 10:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THG: CNN's medical analyst called Tucker Carlson a vaccine 'saboteur,' and challenged him to say if he has taken the jab https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cnn-s-medical-analyst-called-tucker-carlson-a-vaccine-saboteur-and-challenged-him-to-say-if-he-has-taken-the-jab/ar-BB1gz9Ec?ocid=msedgntp T
Monday, May 10, 2021 10:41 AM
Monday, May 10, 2021 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Tucker Carlson is pandering to his audience, which isn't vaccinated:
Quote:About 13% of American adults don’t want a COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Republicans are the most resistant; nearly 3 in 10 say they don’t want one. The share is greater among rural, Republican men, 35% of whom don’t want to get a vaccine.
Tuesday, May 11, 2021 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: That's a very broad and stupid generalization.
Tuesday, May 11, 2021 3:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: That's a very broad and stupid generalization. More generalization:
Tuesday, May 11, 2021 6:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Not interested.
Tuesday, May 11, 2021 8:08 PM
Wednesday, May 12, 2021 3:53 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:49 PM
Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:31 PM
Saturday, May 15, 2021 10:21 PM
Saturday, May 15, 2021 10:22 PM
Sunday, May 16, 2021 5:26 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: A Timeline Of "The Great Reset" Agenda Authored by Tim Hinchliffe via GlobalResearch.ca, Say it’s 2014 and you’ve had this idea for a technocratic Great Reset of the world economy for some time now, but it only works if the entire planet is rocked by a pandemic. How do you go about selling your idea? “The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future” — Klaus Schwab, WEF If you are World Economic Forum (WEF) Founder Klaus Schwab, you attempt to sell your vision of a global Utopia via a Great Reset of the world order in three simple steps: Announce your intention to revamp every aspect of society with global governance, and keep repeating that message When your message isn’t getting through, simulate fake pandemic scenarios that show why the world needs a great reset If the fake pandemic scenarios aren’t persuasive enough, wait a couple months for a real global crisis to occur, and repeat step one It took Schwab and the Davos elite about six years to watch their great reset ideology grow from a tiny Swiss seed in 2014 to a European super-flower pollinating the entire globe in 2020. The so-called “Great Reset” promises to build “a more secure, more equal, and more stable world” if everyone on the planet agrees to “act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions.” But it wouldn’t have been possible to contemplate materializing such an all-encompassing plan for a new world order without a global crisis, be it manufactured or of unfortunate happenstance, that shocked society to its core. “In the end, the outcome was tragic: the most catastrophic pandemic in history with hundreds of millions of deaths, economic collapse and societal upheaval” — Clade X pandemic simulation (May, 2018) So, in May, 2018, the WEF partnered with Johns Hopkins to simulate a fictitious pandemic — dubbed “Clade X” — to see how prepared the world be if ever faced with such a crisis. A little over a year later, the WEF once again teamed-up with Johns Hopkins, along with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to stage another pandemic exercise called Event 201 in October, 2019. Both simulations concluded that the world wasn’t prepared for a global pandemic. And a few short months following the conclusion of Event 201, which specifically simulated a coronavirus outbreak, the World Health Organization (WHO) officially declared that the coronavirus had reached pandemic status on March 11, 2020. “The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019) Since then, just about every scenario covered in the Clade X and Event 201 simulations has come into play, including: Governments implementing lockdowns worldwide The collapse of many industries Growing mistrust between governments and citizens A greater adoption of biometric surveillance technologies Social media censorship in the name of combating misinformation The desire to flood communication channels with “authoritative” sources A global lack of personal protective equipment The breakdown of international supply chains Mass unemployment Rioting in the streets And a whole lot more! After the nightmare scenarios had fully materialized by mid-2020, the WEF founder declared “now is the time for a “Great Reset” in June of this year. Was it excellent forecasting, planning, and modeling on the part of the WEF and partners that Clade X and Event 201 turned out to be so prophetic, or was there something more to it? Timeline Below is a condensed timeline of events that tracks the Great Reset agenda that went from just a “hope” in 2014 to a globalist ideology touted by royalty, the media, and heads of state the world-over in 2020. 2014-2017: Klaus Schwab calls for Great Reset and WEF repeats message Ahead of the 2014 WEF meeting in Davos, Switzerland, Schwab announced that he hoped the WEF would push the reset button on the global economy. The ‘Great Reset’: A Technocratic Agenda that Waited Years for a Global Crisis to Exploit The WEF would go on to repeat that message for years. Between 2014 and 2017, the WEF called to reshape, restart, reboot, and reset the global order every single year, each aimed at solving various “crises.” 2014: WEF publishes meeting agenda entitled “The Reshaping of the World: Consequences for Society, Politics and Business.” 2015: WEF publishes article in collaboration with VOX EU called “We need to press restart on the global economy.” 2016: WEF holds panel called “How to reboot the global economy.” 2017: WEF publishes article saying “Our world needs a reset in how we operate.” Then in 2018, the Davos elites turned their heads towards simulating fake pandemic scenarios to see how prepared the world would be in the face of a different crisis. 2018-2019: WEF, Johns Hopkins & Gates Foundation simulate fake pandemics On May 15, 2018, Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted the “Clade X” pandemic exercise in partnership with the WEF. The Clade X exercise included mock video footage of actors giving scripted news reports about a fake pandemic scenario (video below). The Clade X event also included discussion panels with real policymakers who assessed that governments and industry were not adequately prepared for the fictitious global pandemic. “In the end, the outcome was tragic: the most catastrophic pandemic in history with hundreds of millions of deaths, economic collapse and societal upheaval,” according to a WEF report on Clade X. “There are major unmet global vulnerabilities and international system challenges posed by pandemics that will require new robust forms of public-private cooperation to address” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019) Then on October 18, 2019, in partnership with Johns Hopkins and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the WEF ran Event 201. During the scenario, the entire global economy was shaken, there were riots on the streets, and high-tech surveillance measures were needed to “stop the spread.” Two fake pandemics were simulated in the two years leading up to the real coronavirus crisis. “Governments will need to partner with traditional and social media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019) The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security issued a public statement on January 24, 2020, explicitly addressing that Event 201 wasn’t meant to predict the future. “To be clear, the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction. Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic.” Intentional or not, Event 201 “highlighted” the “fictional” challenges of a pandemic, along with recommendations that go hand-in-hand with the great reset agenda that has set up camp in the nefarious “new normal.” “The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019) Together, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation submitted seven recommendations for governments, international organizations, and global business to follow in the event of a pandemic. The Event 201 recommendations call for greater collaboration between the public and private sectors while emphasizing the importance of establishing partnerships with un-elected, global institutions such as the WHO, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and the International Air Transport Organization, to carry out a centralized response. One of the recommendations calls for governments to partner with social media companies and news organization to censor content and control the flow of information. “Media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed including though [sic] the use of technology” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019) According to the report, “Governments will need to partner with traditional and social media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation. “National public health agencies should work in close collaboration with WHO to create the capability to rapidly develop and release consistent health messages. “For their part, media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed including though [sic] the use of technology.” Sound familiar? Throughout 2020, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube have been censoring, suppressing, and flagging any coronavirus-related information that goes against WHO recommendations as a matter of policy, just as Event 201 had recommended. Big tech companies have also deployed the same content suppression tactics during the 2020 US presidential election — slapping “disputed” claims on content that question election integrity. 2020: WEF declares ‘Now is the time for a Great Reset’ After calling for a great reset in 2014, the Davos crowd repeated the same ideology for a few more years before pivoting towards simulating faux pandemic scenarios. A few months after the WEF established that nobody was prepared to deal with a coronavirus pandemic, the WHO declared there was a coronavirus pandemic. All of a sudden! the great reset narrative that the WEF had been nurturing for six years, found a place to pitch its tent in the “new normal” camp. “The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future,” Schwab declared on June 3, 2020. And that’s where we’re at today. The Davos elites said they wanted a global reset of the economy many years ago They role-played what would happen if a pandemic were to occur And now they’re saying that the great reset ideology is the solution to the pandemic, and it must be enacted quickly The great reset is a means to an end. Next on the agenda is a complete makeover of society under a technocratic regime of un-elected bureaucrats who want to dictate how the world is run from the top down, leveraging invasive technologies to track and trace your every move while censoring and silencing anyone who dares not comply.
Sunday, May 16, 2021 11:20 AM
Sunday, May 16, 2021 12:23 PM
Sunday, May 16, 2021 12:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Covid did a lot of things... Except for kill anybody.
Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Covid did a lot of things... Except for kill anybody. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Sunday, May 16, 2021 8:10 PM
Monday, May 17, 2021 9:45 AM
Tuesday, May 18, 2021 2:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Covid did a lot of things... Except for kill anybody. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality. SIX is in deep denial about this. But he's pretty reality-based about most other things, unlike SECONDRATE.
Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person?
Thursday, May 20, 2021 9:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person? Not true at all. My Grandma's vaxxed and she knows who won the election.
Thursday, May 20, 2021 9:53 AM
Thursday, May 20, 2021 10:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person? Not true at all. My Grandma's vaxxed and she knows who won the election.Who does your Grandma "know" won? Unvaccinated Texas Trumptards "know" that Trump "won," but Biden "stole" the election and Trump will be inaugurated on January 20, 2025. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, May 20, 2021 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Just imagine where we would be today if effective vaccines had not been developed. Our current strategy of moderate social distancing, intermittent partial lockdowns, and economic assistance for businesses and the unemployed would not have been sustainable for another 1 or 2 years as the covid virus slowly burned its way through an unvaccinated population. We would inevitably have shifted to a different approach – very likely a de facto “herd immunity” strategy that lets the virus rip. Perhaps we would have offered some additional protections to the most vulnerable, but I doubt it. An alternative strategy of mass testing, contact tracing, careful and humane isolation of infected people, widespread availability of high-quality masks, and improved treatments would have been far preferable, but we did not do the necessary preparation to implement it, even though quick development of an effective vaccine was considered unlikely by many experts, and the value of increasing testing capacity and mask production was understood by many academics, policymakers, and practitioners. The value of an aggressive, multi-pronged approach to virus suppression and treatment would have been even higher if covid had been more transmissible or had a higher infection fatality rate. https://angrybearblog.com/2021/05/grading-the-u-s-response-to-the-pandemic The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Even with the artificially hyper-inflated numbers, hardly anybody died. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:50 PM
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