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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:48 AM
THG
Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:51 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:25 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: He's just letting them know that we're voting them out if they don't. He's not wrong.
Quote:Supporters of President Donald Trump have breached the US Capitol and one woman has been shot as one of the most iconic American buildings is engulfed in chaos after Trump urged his supporters to fight against the ceremonial counting of the electoral votes that confirmed President-elect Joe Biden's win. Shortly after 1 p.m. ET hundreds of pro-Trump protesters pushed through barriers set up along the perimeter of the Capitol, where they tussled with officers in full riot gear, some calling the officers "traitors" for doing their jobs. About 90 minutes later, police said demonstrators got into the building and the doors to the House and Senate were being locked. Shortly after, the House floor was evacuated by police. An armed standoff was taking place at the House front door as of 3 p.m. ET, and police officers had their guns drawn at someone who is trying to breach it. A Trump supporter was also pictured standing at the Senate dais. A woman is in critical condition after being shot in the chest on the Capitol grounds, according to two sources familiar with the matter. The sources could not provide further details on the circumstances of the shooting. Vice President Mike Pence was also evacuated from Capitol, where he was to perform his role in the counting of electoral votes. Video from inside the Capitol showed Trump supporters marching through Statuary Hall. The US Capitol Police is asking for additional law enforcement for assistance, including federal authorities, per a source familiar. The source says there are several suspicious devices outside the Capitol building.
Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:38 PM
Wednesday, January 6, 2021 5:48 PM
Wednesday, January 6, 2021 6:08 PM
Wednesday, January 6, 2021 6:14 PM
Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:29 PM
Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:38 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh. So it's only a riot when the right does it. lol Fuck the both of you. The Left has been pulling shit a lot worse than this all across the country for a year straight. Civil War is coming. I wouldn't want to be on your side. Yanno... where all the pussies and soy bois are.
Thursday, January 7, 2021 3:31 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote: Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:29 PM Originally posted by second: Democrats Have a Filibuster-Proof Tool to Erase the Trump Administration’s Final Months Over the last few months, federal agencies have rushed out dozens of new rules to gut crucial safeguards against pollution, corruption, labor abuse, segregation, workplace discrimination, and much more. They plan to keep working up until Jan. 20 to roll back as many regulations as possible. But Congress has a way to swiftly undo the damage. The victories of both Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff in Tuesday’s Georgia Senate runoffs puts the Trump administration’s eleventh-hour deregulatory blitz in grave jeopardy. A federal law called the Congressional Review Act allows Congress, with the assent of the president, to repeal recent agency rules by a simple majority vote.
Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:37 PM
Friday, January 8, 2021 7:42 AM
Friday, January 8, 2021 7:52 AM
Friday, January 8, 2021 5:54 PM
Saturday, January 9, 2021 6:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: SEOND you certainly are a dedicated poster.
Saturday, January 9, 2021 6:41 PM
Quote: Can we save democracy from the two-party system? The reason the U.S. is effectively a one-party state, and only nominally a two-party one, is obvious and known to all: Democrats and Republicans serve the same masters. Whether the president is an African-American Democrat or a white nationalist Republican, he staffs his administration with representatives of the highest stratum. Power remains in essentially the same hands — CEOs from the biggest firms, bankers from the biggest banks, executives from the biggest names on Wall Street, orthodox economists, corporate lawyers, corporate lobbyists, ex-generals, etc. — people who can be trusted to serve the system that has served them. A large contingent simply moves back and forth between government and the corporate world. Another way politicians of both parties avoid addressing tangible public needs that run counter to their patrons' interests is by pandering to nationalist vanity, a classic strategy especially effective in a country that has chosen to remain at war for the past 75 years. (For example) Obama specialized in over-the-top flattery of the national ego that presented itself as hard truth. He used the occasion of the Nobel Peace Prize award in 2009 to boast about our many wars and violent interventions since 1941, saying they all promoted peace and security, as we had in saving Europe (single-handed) from the Nazis and Soviets. Clearly, America has been singled out to fight evil. On other occasions, Obama would talk about the kind of people we Americans are, and the kind we are not, using flattery to reassure us that whatever punitive action he had taken or was proposing was simply what our collective conscience demanded. (And) The fantasy of American greatness was there for Donald Trump to exploit. With his MAGA and KAG (Keep America Great) rallies, Trump took pandering to near-fascist heights while leaving his campaign promises unfulfilled or taking actions directly contrary to them, and suffering no consequences at the ballot box. Unfortunately, government social programs do not get the same welcome in Congress as requests for "national security" funding. Those programs unavoidably limit the amount of money private companies can extract from the public and that politicians can extract from the companies for their services. In other words, they "squander precious taxpayer dollars" on not-so-precious taxpayers. The media also do their part to put social programs in a bad light. Look how they seized the opportunity Trump provided to misrepresent and denigrate populism, as Thomas Frank has noted. Long before the Supreme Court made it official, "Money talks" began to emerge as our dominant political ideology. Such a system does not require the players to be conscious of it. On the contrary, their amour propre requires them not to be. No conspiracy is called for. Politicians only have to know which side their bread is buttered on and that they and their families can get very rich through holding office. They are genuinely convinced — indeed, have persuaded themselves — that the policies that benefit them most are good for everyone. https://www.salon.com/2021/01/09/can-we-save-democracy-from-the-two-party-system/
Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: There's much more in the article, accessible at the link. If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:12 AM
Monday, January 11, 2021 1:23 PM
Monday, January 11, 2021 2:16 PM
Monday, January 11, 2021 6:14 PM
Quote:There's a once-in-a-generation chance to split up the Republican Party, and what's on the leftwing menu?
Monday, January 11, 2021 6:19 PM
Quote:Nearly 160 million voters cast a ballot in the 2020 presidential election, but if a total of 43,000 Biden voters had stayed at home in the states of Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin, Trump would have won a second term.
Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Nearly 160 million voters cast a ballot in the 2020 presidential election, but if a total of 43,000 Biden voters had stayed at home in the states of Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin, Trump would have won a second term. Which is what makes the election SUCH a tempting target for manipulation! Which is why we need a .thorough. neutral. academic. statistical. analysis of the 2020 election, for example, by the CalTech/ MIT Vote Project - to determine whether or not it was a valid election. Unless you want to equate democracy with mystery-voting?
Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:55 AM
Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:11 AM
Thursday, January 14, 2021 7:37 AM
Thursday, January 14, 2021 1:42 PM
Saturday, January 16, 2021 7:51 AM
Saturday, January 16, 2021 10:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In August, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pressured the U.N. Security Council to pass a ban on conventional arms sales to Iran. Only one of the council’s members, the Dominican Republic, joined the U.S. in supporting the ban; Russia and China opposed it; the others—all U.S. allies—abstained. The episode typified, in extreme form, two of Pompeo’s most distinct traits—an obsession with regime change in Iran and incompetence at making that or any other goal happen.
Saturday, January 16, 2021 11:03 AM
Saturday, January 16, 2021 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't worry your little heads about it. Biden* will waste no time in selling out the Jews to Iran.
Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:03 AM
Monday, January 18, 2021 6:17 AM
Monday, January 18, 2021 5:13 PM
Monday, January 18, 2021 6:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: HuffPost reporter
Monday, January 18, 2021 6:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't worry your little heads about it. Biden* will waste no time in selling out the Jews to Iran.Israel wants the US to knock down its rival -- Iran. But Israel is not the 51st state. Netanyahu's ultimate strategy is to encourage a US escalation with Iran that would prompt an American military strike against Iran's nuclear sites, which some Israelis believe would be far more effective than any strike the Israelis could carry out on their own. https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2011/RAND_MG1143.pdf The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, January 18, 2021 7:38 PM
Monday, January 18, 2021 7:42 PM
Monday, January 18, 2021 7:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't worry your little heads about it. Biden* will waste no time in selling out the Jews to Iran.Israel wants the US to knock down its rival -- Iran. But Israel is not the 51st state. Netanyahu's ultimate strategy is to encourage a US escalation with Iran that would prompt an American military strike against Iran's nuclear sites, which some Israelis believe would be far more effective than any strike the Israelis could carry out on their own. https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2011/RAND_MG1143.pdf The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly In other words, Second doesn't care much for Jews.
Tuesday, January 19, 2021 7:55 AM
Tuesday, January 19, 2021 7:57 AM
Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:23 AM
Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: If you meet the requirements ( slightly to the right, middle and liberal ) and you have an interest in starting a discussion say so.
Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:32 AM
Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:15 AM
Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:25 AM
Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: And so the piece of shit leaves in disgrace. Let the record show that Trump leaves office as the least popular president of all time. Melania is likewise the least liked first lady in all of history. May they both be as miserable as they've made the world.
Wednesday, January 20, 2021 9:44 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Quote:Originally posted by second: But it doesn't make sense...
Wednesday, January 20, 2021 9:46 PM
Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In the End, the Trump Presidency Was a Failure on Its Own Terms http://www.honestgraft.com/2021/01/in-end-trump-presidency-was-failure-on.html
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