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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Until then, I don't give two shits about your fake Covid death numbers. Especially not when a crooked politician is part of those statistics.

I am pretty sure Trumptards don't understand numbers or statistics the way I do. To brag like always, my understanding made me rich. Here are some numbers that Trumptards misunderstand. There is something about how middle class Republicans use numbers that is keeping them from comprehending what upper class Republicans are doing :

“When is debt out of control?” To Republicans, the answer is simple: “When a Democrat is president.”

The record, of course, is almost exactly the opposite. The national debt nearly tripled under Ronald Reagan, who gave huge tax cuts almost exclusively to the top of the income ladder. (In fact, because of a substantial increase in the payroll tax, taxes actually went up for the bottom 40 percent.)

During George H.W. Bush’s single term, the national debt increased by 54 percent. To fix that, and without a single Republican vote, Bill Clinton increased marginal tax rates for the affluent at the beginning of his two terms. Instead of leading to a recession, as every Republican House and Senate member had predicted, we experienced eight straight years of marked economic growth and a balanced budget with a surplus that George W. Bush inherited.

During his first debate with Al Gore, W. touted his tax-cut proposal: “By far the vast majority of my tax cut goes to those at the bottom.” Not just “a majority.” Not “a vast majority.” But “by far a vast majority.” Not one of those was true. In fact, the vast majority of the Bush tax cuts went to those at the top. When W. took office, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan endorsed Bush’s tax cut not only as fiscally prudent, but necessary. The looming budget surpluses, Greenspan feared, would pay off the entire federal debt before the end of the decade! If the surpluses didn’t end when our debt was paid off, it could cause serious economic disruption. Large tax cuts, Greenspan said, were necessary to avoid that catastrophe.

That particular catastrophe certainly was avoided. By the time George W. Bush handed off the worst economy since the Great Depression to Barack Obama, the national debt had again doubled, and Americans were losing 800,000 jobs a month.

Like W., Trump campaigned promising a tax cut geared to low- and middle-income Americans. And like Bush, he was bullshitting.

During the floor debate on the Republicans’ 2017 tax cut, I approached Tim Scott of South Carolina, their floor manager for the bill. “You know, this is going to explode the deficit.”

Tim told me it wouldn’t because of — wait for it — dynamic scoring.

“No,” I insisted. “Your own Congressional Budget Office says it will create another $1.9 trillion in debt.” The CBO is the nonpartisan agency that provides Congress with budget and economic research. I used “your own” CBO because, holding majorities in both the House and Senate, Republicans had chosen the CBO director. And when the CBO “scored” the Republican tax cut, it estimated that it would add $1.9 trillion to our national debt.

More at https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/al-franken-
republicans-deficits-1122888/

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:33 AM

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Originally posted by second:How many have to die before the other Trumptards stop thinking covid-19 is a Democratic/media/Chinese hoax? Is it only 50% or do all 210 of them have to die?

A happy thot!

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:37 AM

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Sorry, Sig, but I dont want to spend so much time sparring with you. It iz obviously just baiting anyway, so it only raizez the question uv why.

You spent a fair amoount uv time riting all that nonsens, so wut made it worth it? Iz it just to waste my time?

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:42 AM

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Reading Obama'z book, A Promised Land.

Its pretty neat to be able to watch videoz uv stuff he toks about.

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:46 AM

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by second:How many have to die before the other Trumptards stop thinking covid-19 is a Democratic/media/Chinese hoax? Is it only 50% or do all 210 of them have to die?

A happy thot!

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Wow. You too?

*sigh*

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by second:
I am pretty sure Trumptards don't understand numbers or statistics the way I do.

You're so full of shit it leaks out your ears.

We both know that you don't have any money or a business to run. You post here more than I do. You don't have a job dude.

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:24 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by JO753:
Sorry, Sig, but I dont want to spend so much time sparring with you. It iz obviously just baiting anyway, so it only raizez the question uv why.

You spent a fair amoount uv time riting all that nonsens, so wut made it worth it? Iz it just to waste my time?

Now you got ME curious! You're more than happy to post - AT LENGTH - something that other people might think is a waste of time. Yet Signy read it, and is ready to discuss it with you. But now all of the sudden you can't find the time!

What gives?

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:30 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by second:
How many have to die before the other Trumptards stop thinking covid-19 is a Democratic/media/Chinese hoax? Is it only 50% or do all 210 of them have to die?

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Originally posted by JO753:
A happy thot!

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wow. You too?
*sigh*

Was that about the COVID reference? the partisanship? or the wishing death on people he disagrees with?

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by second:
How many have to die before the other Trumptards stop thinking covid-19 is a Democratic/media/Chinese hoax? Is it only 50% or do all 210 of them have to die?
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Originally posted by JO753:
A happy thot!

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wow. You too?
*sigh*
Was that about the COVID reference? the partisanship? or the wishing death on people he disagrees with?

The death part... Always the death part.

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 8:28 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by JO753:
Reading Obama'z book, A Promised Land.

Its pretty neat to be able to watch videoz uv stuff he toks about.

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And mostly when he talks, he lies.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 8:43 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by second:
How many have to die before the other Trumptards stop thinking covid-19 is a Democratic/media/Chinese hoax? Is it only 50% or do all 210 of them have to die?

JO753: A happy thot!

6IXSTRINGJACK: Wow. You too?
*sigh*

KIKI: Was that about the COVID reference? the partisanship? or the wishing death on people he disagrees with?

SIX: The death part... Always the death part.

Up until then, JO had managed to avoid being a major asshole.

JO, do you see any of "us" wishing death on you? Since when did you become so partisan that you became bad?

ALSO ... yeah, that comment about me posting a lot of stuff. How many MONTHS (years?) have you spent polishing your website? If you don't want to discuss your opinions, fine, but don't post them on A DISCUSSION FORUM, for god's sake.

I did you the courtesy of not only reading your post and thinking about it, and responding on point, I also did you the courtesy of looking over your website. Maybe you should return the courtesy.

If we can't extend that courtesy to each other on a discussion forum, where can we?

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:32 PM

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Rep. Jamie Raskin, serving as the lead House impeachment manager, opened his argument with a video showing the events of the Capitol riot to help argue that the proceeding is constitutional. The video outlined shows footage of former President Trump's speech and of the actions of those who stormed the Capitol.

At least seven people lost their lives, more than 140 law enforcement officers suffered physical injuries, and many more have been severely impacted by their experiences that day.

In reply, Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted after the riot:
These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!
6:01 PM • Jan 6, 2021

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:42 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Where were the words "PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY"?

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:36 AM

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Raskin did a great job today.

I think Trump's 1st lawyer studied Lionel Hutz in preparation for this.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:42 AM

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Even a Conservative Analysis Shows the $15 Minimum Wage Does More Good Than Harm

Democrats would need every one of their senators to back it, and West Virginia’s Joe Manchin has said he’s opposed. The numbers churned out by the budget office may not help its chances politically, given that the projection of job losses will give ammunition to the pay bump’s critics. But the overall finding that, on net, low-wage workers end up better off should strengthen the intellectual case for pushing the wage floor higher, especially given how it was produced.

When analysts try to estimate how many jobs will disappear if the minimum wage increases, their result depends almost entirely on the number they pick. In a stark and slightly suspicious failure of wonk transparency, the budget office did not actually state outright the number they chose to use anywhere in their report. But based on the results it published, other economists have concluded the budget office went with an elasticity of around -0.48, meaning that for every 10 percent increase in the minimum wage, employment would fall 4.8 percent among workers whose jobs were affected.

That’s a big, fat elasticity, and while some recent studies have suggested that the minimum wage could have an effect that large, they aren’t typical. Just last month, University of California Irvine Professor David Neumark, who is widely considered the dean of minimum-wage critics in academia, released a draft paper in which he compiled the results of three decades of papers in the field. He concluded that, in studies looking at workers directly impacted by minimum wage hikes, the median elasticity was -0.15, less than one third of what the CBO chose. The average was -0.31, only about two thirds of what the CBO ultimately went with.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210210070809/https://slate.com/business/
2021/02/minimum-wage-hikes-cbo-relief-bill-democrats.html

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:37 AM

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This Is Not Representative Democracy. The American people overwhelmingly favor conviction, and there is no chance the Senate will convict.

In spite of the certainty with which I can predict that Trump won’t be convicted, recent polling shows that the majority of Americans want to see him convicted. ABC polling released on Sunday shows 56 percent of Americans saying that Trump should be convicted and barred from holding office again. Only 43 percent say he should not be. That means that most Americans watching any part of the impeachment trial could reasonably ask themselves why, yet again, 56 percent of the country is held hostage to a 43 percent minority. This is not representative democracy working well.

But this isn’t just about minority rule. Because beyond possibly reconsidering the archaic constitutional strictures that require a two-thirds majority to convict the president, Americans might reasonably look at the disastrously malapportioned United States Senate and try to understand why this sober, deliberative body intentionally distorts the will of the people even as it purports to represent the will of the people. And that means those same people who might scratch their heads in an effort to understand how the Republican Party has morphed from the Party of Lincoln to the Party of Space Lasers could also reasonably wonder why it is that views that don’t command even a minority of the minority views of most Republicans seem to be privileged on the Senate floor over the rational conservative values they themselves espouse. They might, for instance, wonder why the GOP is condemning Liz Cheney while offering a standing ovation to Marjorie Taylor Greene. And they wouldn’t be totally insane if they then started to think about what minority-rule structures and incentive systems have brought them here.

In short, in addition to using this impeachment trial to create a historical record of four years of GOP support for a president who tried to violently overturn an election, this impeachment can also stand as a record of how staggeringly broken electoral politics are when the preferences of the clear majority of Americans are being subordinated by the very systems of government itself. The GOP isn’t just committed to ignoring the insurrection at the Capitol this week. It’s also increasingly committed to ignoring the majority of Americans who found the insurrection abhorrent. This, then, is what minority rule looks like in political theater form: a Senate trial in which the clear will of the people can be sidelined because the clear will of the people does not determine who governs, or what those who govern must do.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2021/02/09/this-is-not-representative
-democracy/

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:52 AM

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Originally posted by second:
The American people overwhelmingly favor conviction,

No they don't.

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and there is no chance the Senate will convict.

You're right about that though.

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In spite of the certainty with which I can predict that Trump won’t be convicted, recent polling shows that the majority of Americans want to see him convicted. ABC polling released on Sunday shows 56 percent of Americans saying that Trump should be convicted and barred from holding office again. Only 43 percent say he should not be. That means that most Americans watching any part of the impeachment trial could reasonably ask themselves why, yet again, 56 percent of the country is held hostage to a 43 percent minority. This is not representative democracy working well.

56 to 43 is not even close to something you could call overwhelming... and that's based off of a single bullshit ABC poll that comically look EXACTLY like Trump's approval rating for a majority of is presidency.

NOTE: The rest of this post was edited after I looked at the exact poll used in the story and posted it here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210210005657/https://www.ipsos.com/en-us
/news-polls/abc-news-coronavirus-aid-package-020721

This question was asked of 508 people, out of roughly 330 MILLION people.

Outside of the actual number of people, the methodology section just gives you a few paragraphs of meaningless gobbledygook so you can't actually know anything about who was actually polled.

Funny enough though, the part of the poll in question doesn't use the word OVERWHELMING majority.

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A slight majority (56%) of Americans support the Senate convicting Donald Trump and barring him from office in the future. However, this falls strongly along party lines with over 9 in 10 Democrats supporting and over 8 in 10 Republicans opposing.

SLIGHT majority.

Also, it solidifies my own earlier comment that this falls strongly among party lines (when I said it comically looks EXACTLY like Trump's approval ratings for a majority of his presidency).

If California falls into the ocean tomorrow you'd see what an overwhelming majority looked like. The other way.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:34 AM

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The trial is about Republicans and their unwillingness to cut loose the twisted and violent conspiracy theories that are the heart of Trumpism.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210209145630/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/02/impeachment-stakes-not-conviction-senate.html

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:41 AM

You're mental dude.

Get a hobby.

What the fuck is Biden* up to? Yanno, our CURRENT President?

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're mental dude.

Trump's lawyer shot down 6ix's and Trump's violent conspiracy theory about Trump winning:

Bruce Castor Jr. said the decision on who serves as the next president should be left up to the American people: "The people are smart enough ... to pick a new administration if they don't like the old one. And they just did." Then, soon after, Castor added that this is commonplace: "The people get tired of an administration they don't want. And they know how to change it. And they just did." Castor's assertion about what the people "just did" is obvious to anyone who is willing to acknowledge reality. Except Trump has tried hard to create an alternative reality.

Trump has declared again and again that the people actually reelected him in a "landslide" and that fraud and theft cheated him out of his rightful victory. (He repeated this nonsense even in the video he tweeted out during the Capitol insurrection.) Today, Trump better fire his lawyer who can't agree with Trump about who won.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/politics/fact-check-bruce-castor-lawyer
-impeachment-trump-lost-election/index.html

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:43 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Castor's assertion

Yes, many people assert many things. Some people assert one thing. Other people assert the opposite thing.

But nothing has been validated. So the election 'facts' are still in doubt, at least according to the Mitofsky Report which statistically conclusively showed an election can be rigged, and the CalTech/ MIT vote project which says you don't really know what the vote was until you validate it.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're mental dude.
Trump's lawyer shot down 6ix's and Trump's violent conspiracy theory about Trump winning:

There's nothing violent about it.

Equal rights for blacks is a good idea. It's fringe idiots on the Left in BLM and Antifa that make it a violent idea.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:07 AM

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Corporations seeking to monitor and disrupt perceived opponents have long drawn upon the expertise of former FBI agents. Major financial firms, casinos, and oil and gas companies have tapped a revolving door of retired FBI personnel, who offer ties to their former colleagues and services to track and undermine perceived corporate threats, including journalists and labor organizers.

In 2012, fearing a wave of labor activism, Walmart reportedly developed a centralized surveillance system headed by a former FBI officer named Ken Senser to track employees’ activities, sentiment, and political sympathies. When the company’s security analysts received word that Occupy Wall Street demonstrators were contemplating a protest of Walmart, it swiftly engaged the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and local police agencies.

The FBI’s early roots focused on suppressing labor activism on behalf of business interests. In 1919, the agency established its “General Intelligence Division” that mobilized “Red Squads” focused on disrupting labor organizing. The most famous of these is the Palmer Raids of 1919 and 1920, during which around 10,000 people were arrested over suspected ties to communist and labor radical groups. The raids, timed to coincide with the anniversary of the Bolshevik revolt in Russia, were targeted at the Industrial Workers of the World. At least 1,000 IWW members were later convicted under dubious charges under the Espionage Act that the union’s industrial organizing work was somehow part of a conspiracy to assist Germany during World War I.

Amazon has fended off unionization through a range of tactics, using common union-busting strategies while keeping its more aggressive investments under wraps. Leaked documents have revealed aspects of the company’s internal surveillance apparatus, showing how analysts keep close tabs on its own workforce, including by hiring operatives from Pinkerton, a spy agency known for being hostile to unions, to spy on workers in Europe, as Vice previously reported.

The company is now facing its biggest union push since 2014. On February 8, the National Labor Relations Board began mailing ballots to nearly 6,000 Amazon workers at the facility near Birmingham, Alabama, who will begin voting on whether to join the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. If enough of the workers vote in favor, they will become the first Amazon warehouse in the United States to unionize.

During the pandemic, Amazon workers in several warehouses across the country (and abroad) have ramped up their organizing, staging walk-offs and other labor actions to protest the firm’s abusive work practices: forcing grueling hours with little to no pay increase at a time of record profits.

More at https://theintercept.com/2021/02/11/amazon-jobs-security-fbi/

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:39 AM

They're never going to unionize.

Hell, a decade from now half of those jobs will literally be done by robots.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:21 PM

See The Real-World Benefits of "Defunding The Police"

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:11 PM

Fuck Vaush.

We don't need your idiot masked friends going all Mad Max when they realize they don't get in trouble for anything anymore and can literally get away with murder.

You love when people die. You post about it all the time. It makes you happy.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:41 PM

Hey Ted. Where's all your neocon Lincoln Project videos at?

Oh yeah. They're not doing too well these days, are they?

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Friday, February 12, 2021 7:42 AM

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If Trump Wasn’t Calling for Insurrection, What Was He Doing?

His lawyers don’t have an answer.

Donald Trump’s lawyers face a challenge as they begin his defense at this week’s Senate impeachment trial. House prosecutors have made the case that Trump, in his Jan. 6 speech to a crowd in Washington, D.C., incited the insurrection that followed. Trump’s lawyers deny that the insurrection was what Trump intended. But in that case, they need to offer a plausible alternative. If Trump wasn’t directing the mob to attack or threaten Congress, what was he telling it to do?

In their trial brief, the defense attorneys point out that Trump’s Jan. 6 remarks never explicitly called for “an insurrection, a riot, criminal action, or any acts of physical violence.” At worst, the brief argues, Trump was “misunderstood” by the thugs who subsequently attacked the Capitol. But nowhere in the brief do the lawyers explain what the misunderstanding was. That’s because Trump’s behavior, over the course of two months, rules out any other reasonable explanation. By rejecting every nonviolent option that could have ended the election dispute, he drove his supporters to violence.

According to Trump’s attorneys, when he told the crowd to fight—“If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore”—he was just referring to “action at the ballot box,” calling for “a change in the occupants of Congress through future primary elections,” or talking “about the need to fight for election security in general.” But that explanation is obviously false because Trump had summoned the crowd to show up two years before the next federal election. The question on the table was whether to accept the election that had just taken place.

The lawyers, in their brief, note that Trump didn’t specifically demand “unlawful action.” But he got the same result by telling his base that lawful action had failed to save the country. He denounced every court, including the Supreme Court, that rejected his election challenges. When the FBI and the Department of Justice found “no evidence of widespread voter fraud,” he denounced them too. He told his followers to ignore state-certified ballot counts and the Dec. 14 vote of the Electoral College. As lawful options were exhausted, Trump continued to demand that the election be overturned. The conclusion was inescapable: He wanted action outside the law.

The president made clear that these actions would have to be taken by citizens, because public officials had failed. He urged his supporters to come to Washington on Jan. 6, when Congress was scheduled to certify the electoral vote, because Republican senators lacked the courage to block certification. On Jan. 4, he told his followers that it was their job to “fight like hell” and make sure the certification didn’t happen. On Jan. 5, he vowed that they would “inundate” Washington and galvanize Republicans. The mission of the mob, as he described it, was to intimidate Congress.

In his speech to the crowd on the morning of Jan. 6, Trump inserted a token line about protesting “peacefully.” Hardcore Trump fans knew he often sprinkled that line in speeches as a joke. Then, over the next hour, Trump foreclosed every peaceful option. He called Joe Biden’s victory illegitimate. He dismissed the Supreme Court as biased and hostile to the country. He told his supporters to suspend the usual rules of election acceptance, urged them to counter the left’s “ruthless” power grab, and warned that if Biden were inaugurated, “our country will be destroyed.” By the end of the speech, his meaning was obvious: Violence was justified and necessary. An hour later, as insurrectionists surrounded the Capitol, he tweeted that the last nonviolent option—intervention in Congress by Vice President Mike Pence—had failed.

Trump’s behavior during the attack erased any doubt about his intentions. He didn’t like scenes of his supporters attacking police—he saw those images as a threat to his “law & order” brand—but he loved what the mob had done to Congress. White House officials said he was “pleased,” “delighted,” “excited,” and “borderline enthusiastic because it meant the certification was being derailed.” When the assault was over, Trump gloated. “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots,” he tweeted. “Remember this day forever!”

Trump made clear what he wanted. He declared that the country was in mortal danger and that officials who stood in his way were enemies of the people. He told his followers that every legal option had failed them and that every institution was rigged against them. He warned that the putative winners of the election were ruthless, and it was “time somebody did something about it.” He scoffed that Congress, without pressure from the streets, would never do the right thing. If these messages weren’t a call for insurrection, what were they? The former president’s lawyers had better have an answer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210212002428/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/02/trump-insurrection-impeachment-defense-bogus.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, February 12, 2021 10:02 AM

rezident owtsidr

Linzey looks like a tortured soul. Like out uv camera view The Devil iz holding the other end uv a length uv razor wire tangled around hiz junk.

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Friday, February 12, 2021 10:18 AM

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Fuck Vaush.

We don't need your idiot masked friends going all Mad Max when they realize they don't get in trouble for anything anymore and can literally get away with murder.

You love when people die. You post about it all the time. It makes you happy.

Mindless. That's the word that comes to mind when reading your meaningless blather. You are mindless.

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Friday, February 12, 2021 10:19 AM

Ronan Farrow: Who Were the Rioters on Jan. 6th?

“The algorithms built into Facebook are designed so that if you click extremist misinformation, it's going to send more of that your way,” says Ronan Farrow of the social media platform’s role in the Capitol insurrection.

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Friday, February 12, 2021 1:42 PM

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What should the new administration’s priorities be to make PNT more resilient?

We asked Brad Parkinson, the “Father of GPS” and a GPS World Editorial Advisory Board member, what the new U.S. administration’s priorities should be to make positioning, navigation and timing (PNT) more resilient. For more answers from board members, see below.

Protect the Spectrum. Reverse FCC authorization for relatively high-powered Ligado transmitters that have been proven to degrade GPS and other GNSS operation for thousands of PNT users. All U.S. government departments and major user groups affected have pleaded with the FCC to reverse this terrible decision. There is little benefit from it to the American public.

Protect the rapidly evaporating and self-proclaimed Gold Standard of GPS. The GPS satellite designs are showing their age. They need to go to multiple launch (three at a time) and revert to simpler designs without the spot-beams and other weighty add-ons that greatly increase complexity and cost. The Chinese have added to BeiDou (a) inter-satellite precision ranging and wide-band communications, (b) geosynchronous satellites, probably with good spot-beam acquisition aids, and (c) a WAAS-like correction directly on the satellites, which may have accuracies down to real-time kinematic (RTK, perhaps a few centimeters). Also, they claim their basic accuracies to be better than GPS (it might be true!) — I think they already have operational retro-reflectors.

Allow and encourage export of the basic and quickest fix to jamming and spoofing for high-value PNT users. More than 40 years ago, we demonstrated, in hardware, a high anti-jamming receiver that could fly directly over a 10 kW GPS jammer and not be affected. We know that high-gain, digital beam-steering antennas will create close to immunity, but our manufacturers will not move this way because we cannot sell or use them on the international market. These devices, combined with inexpensive inertial components and the newer signals, would make PNT virtually immune to current threats of interference — both jamming and spoofing.

More at https://www.gpsworld.com/brad-parkinson-offers-5-ways-to-protect-impro
ve-pnt/

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Friday, February 12, 2021 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Vaush.

We don't need your idiot masked friends going all Mad Max when they realize they don't get in trouble for anything anymore and can literally get away with murder.

You love when people die. You post about it all the time. It makes you happy.

Mindless. That's the word that comes to mind when reading your meaningless blather. You are mindless.

No. Mindless is you cunts pretending that when you do the exact same shit you call other people out doing it's just fine.

In four years I haven't yet even figured out how to dumb down my speech patterns to even hold a conversation with somebody as stupid as you are.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 7:22 AM

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While the events unfolding on Capitol Hill look and sound so much like a criminal trial, with a prosecution and defense lawyers and senators vowing as jurors to "do impartial justice," what's happening is not about punishing the 45th president.

If Trump is convicted of committing high crimes and misdemeanors for inciting an insurrectional sacking of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 — as he should be — the former president won't face jail. He won't receive a fine. His life and liberty will in no way suffer.

That was never what the Founding Fathers intended when they crafted an impeachment clause 234 years ago. What mattered was protecting their radical experiment in a constitutional republic from a power-abusing president. Conviction at an impeachment trial was their vaccine for the new democracy.

It would immunize the republic — the Constitution, really — against future harm from what James Madison called the "perfidy of the chief Magistrate."

Trump's perfidy, laid out through graphic video in the Senate chamber, was his ability as president to promote the lie of a stolen election. It was his malignant skill in using that lie to provoke thousands of violent followers into storming Capitol Hill to disrupt Congress' constitutional duty to count final voting results.

In fact, the vote was momentarily disrupted. The Capitol was overrun for the first time since a British invasion in 1814. Five people died, including a police officer trying to defend the Capitol and the members of Congress inside, and at least 138 officers were injured battling the mob. "We have been flanked, and we've lost the line!" one officer exclaimed over a police radio as the mob surged.

One of the most startling revelations of the trial was that Trump nearly got his vice president killed. Mike Pence had refused Trump's demand that he throw out valid electoral votes while presiding over the congressional count. After it was clear rioters had breached the Capitol, something Trump could plainly see on television, he tweeted that "Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution." The words were read aloud by rioters, who chanted, "Hang Mike Pence," as they hunted him through the halls. Two minutes later, according to a trial video, the vice president and his family were rushed to safety — with rioters just dozens of steps behind.

How would the Constitution deal with this kind of incitement of insurrection? The remedy is not about punishing Trump — as hideous as his actions may be — but about protecting us all from his brand of malign behavior: Trump would never again be allowed to hold public office. Or to seek it, for that matter. Because there's hazard should Trump even attempt another run for the presidency and fail again claiming fraud. It risks another round of violence by extremist followers.

As a prosecution manager, Rep. Ted Lieu of California, argued Thursday: "I'm not afraid of Donald Trump running again in four years. I'm afraid he's going to run again and lose."

Those senators who acquit in the hope that, with time, all of this bad business will pass away and a post-Trump Republican Party will reemerge, must remember one thing. Trump has never abandoned the Big Lie. Despite multiple investigations, audits, recounts, vote certifications and judicial findings that the 2020 presidential election was free and fair, he clings to this lie because of the seductive and corrosive power it gives him over those willing to believe it.

It's why conviction and banishment from ever holding public office, as the Constitution prescribes, is the only way forward for the Senate.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2021/02/12/convict
-donald-trump-banish-45th-president-democracy-editorials-debates/6723497002/

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:10 AM

How Tucker Carlson Deliberately Brainwashes His Audience: Priming, Gaslighting & Manipulation

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:30 AM

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How Tucker Carlson Deliberately Brainwashes His Audience: Priming, Gaslighting & Manipulation

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Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:54 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
How Tucker Carlson Deliberately Brainwashes His Audience: Priming, Gaslighting & Manipulation

https://twitter.com/morningmika/status/834463604531404800?lang=en

Way to fall for shit editing. Once again, you believe what you want to believe, not facts.

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Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:54 AM

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Sunday, February 14, 2021 10:01 AM

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How Tucker Carlson Deliberately Brainwashes His Audience: Priming, Gaslighting & Manipulation

https://twitter.com/morningmika/status/834463604531404800?lang=en

Way to fall for shit editing. Once again, you believe what you want to believe, not facts.

Editing? There's no jump cuts there, honey.

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Sunday, February 14, 2021 10:06 AM

You kind of left out the context. She was referring to Trump. Or, did you miss that part?

“SCARBOROUGH: "Exactly. That is exactly what I hear. What Yamiche said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talk to who were Trump voters and are still Trump supporters. They go, 'Yeah you guys are going crazy. He's doing -- what are you so surprised about? He is doing exactly what he said he is going to do.'"

BRZEZINSKI: "Well, I think that the dangerous, you know, edges here are that he is trying to undermine the media and trying to make up his own facts. And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job."

Now, do let us know if you have a tough time with her statement. She is literally saying that Trump’s White House and Trump’s own biased media (Fox, Breitbart, Infowars) are engaged in trying to control the way we think.

And, she clarified it, once Trump’s Media took her statement out of context:

“Today, I said it's the media's job to keep President Trump from making up his own facts, NOT that it's our job to control what people think.”

She was trying to explain the obvious — for those who are small-minded, who are unable to follow a simple, obvious train of thought.
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Your weak, feeble mind is again exposed. You are truly a useful idiot. Independent thought is not something you are capable of, and you prove it, daily.

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Sunday, February 14, 2021 10:19 AM

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You kind of left out the context. She was referring to Trump. Or, did you miss that part?

I didn't miss that part. Of course she was talking about Trump.

You just claimed that it was "shit editing". It's completely unedited.

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BRZEZINSKI: "Well, I think that the dangerous, you know, edges here are that he is trying to undermine the media and trying to make up his own facts. And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job."

I don't know how you could possibly read that any other way in any context.

She probably immediately regretted saying it, as did Joe for giving an affirmative right after she finished.

They aren't supposed to let you know that their job is to make up their own facts and control what you think.

There was really no reason to be worried though. As long as they're saying exactly what their audience wants to hear, their audience will defend them even when they let the curtain slip.

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Monday, February 15, 2021 2:06 AM

Lost in Space. ^ You didn't read well as a kid, and you still can't.

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Monday, February 15, 2021 7:41 AM

THG

My poor thread

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Monday, February 15, 2021 10:11 AM

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Lost in Space. ^ You didn't read well as a kid, and you still can't.

There's no other way to read that.

We heard her say it too. And we saw it.

You're the idiot who immediately said the clip was edited. It wasn't edited. She said exactly what she was thinking and idiot Joe agreed with her.

And mediabots like you let her get away with it and emboldened them to take it further.

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Monday, February 15, 2021 4:03 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

REAVERBOT lives in full denial of inconveneient facts, even ones that he ha heard and seen for himself.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:27 AM

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REAVERBOT lives in full denial of inconveneient facts, even ones that he ha heard and seen for himself.

A Convenient Fact, if you want Congress to gridlock: The filibuster is Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s primary source of power.

The Senate filibuster is one of the most unfortunate accidents in American history. Fresh off the duel where he killed Alexander Hamilton, Vice President Aaron Burr returned to the Senate and proposed streamlining the body’s rules by eliminating something called the “previous question motion,” a process that was rarely invoked in the early years of the Senate. Burr was charged with multiple crimes, including murder, in New York and New Jersey, but was never tried in either jurisdiction. Burr, and Trump, got away clean with very public murder, another convenient fact for Signym. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Burr#Duel_with_Hamilton

As Sarah Binder, a Brookings Institution expert on Congress and a professor at George Washington University, explained in 2010 testimony to the Senate Rules Committee, Burr’s intent was to produce a “cleaner rule book”. Burr thought the previous question motion was the kind of superfluous rule that could be eliminated.

Unfortunately for the nation, the previous question motion wasn’t the least bit superfluous. This motion turned out to be the only way to force the Senate to move off a particular topic. When the Senate took up Burr on his call, it allowed senators to lock the Senate into endless, pointless debate — halting progress even if a majority of the Senate wished to move forward to a vote.

The filibuster was born.

In 1917, President Woodrow Wilson successfully urged the Senate to create a process, known as “cloture,” which would allow a two-thirds majority of the Senate to break a filibuster and bring a matter to the Senate for a final vote. Since then, the filibuster rules have been modified at least 161 times.

Democratic senators like Joe Manchin (WV) and Kyrsten Sinema (AZ), who say they oppose eliminating the filibuster, do not need to eliminate it in order to build a more functional Senate. Remember that Mitch McConnell is still in a position to gridlock the Senate. How to stop him with a subtle rule change?

Before I get into several ways the filibuster can be altered without abolishing it, however, it’s helpful to understand some of the procedural details behind the filibuster.

When Barack Obama took office in 2009, he needed to appoint approximately 1,000 Senate-confirmed Cabinet jobs, sub-Cabinet positions, ambassadors, judges, federal prosecutors, and US marshals. At the time, Senate rules allowed the Republican minority to force 30 hours of post-cloture debate on each of these nominees.

The result was that if the Senate worked 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and did nothing but confirm Obama’s nominees, Republicans still could have forced the Senate to do nothing else for more than three years before the last nominee was confirmed. Indeed, a 2012 law allowing the president to appoint officials to about 170 executive branch positions, without going through the Senate confirmation process, is best understood as a reaction to widespread filibusters of President Obama’s nominees. To prevent more such systematic delays, a 2019 amendment to the Senate rules reduced the amount of post-cloture debate to two hours, instead of 30 hours, for federal trial judges and for executive branch officials outside of the Cabinet. While the filibuster can still be used to delay confirmation votes, it is a far less potent tool of obstruction than it once was.

More at https://www.vox.com/22260164/filibuster-senate-fix-reform-joe-manchin-
kyrsten-sinema-cloture-mitch-mcconnell

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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