Election Fraud Debunking Megathread by reaverfan

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It doesn't matter how much evidence is found.

It matters very much. That's why the tinfoil liars have to STFU, now. Lying about people can get you sued.

Since you can point to NO evidence WHATSOEVER, maybe you should STFU, too.

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Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:30 AM

Terrified Seb Gorka Shuts Down MyPillow Guy

America's biggest Nazi doesn't want to get sued. “We’re not going to talk about the minutia.”
Pitiful.

Just imagine if they were serious and had real evidence. "We don't have one minute to spare to outline a massive coup, let's talk about feelings."

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Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Supposedly, getting Dominion to sue is what Sidney Powell wanted in the first place, because as defendant she gets "discovery", which allows her to conduct an investigation. Something she couldn't actually do as plaintiff. That's how she uneartherd all of that exculpatory evidence on Flynn that forced the DOJ to drop its case, and it might turn out to be a very smart move in her fraud case.

Signym, there is no truth in your paragraph. DOJ dropped the Flynn prosecution because Trump wanted it. When the sentencing/jailing of Flynn was about to happen despite the DOJ, Trump had to pardon Flynn. The Supreme Court has recognized that the acceptance of a pardon implies a 'confession' of guilt. Without that pardon, Flynn was going to jail and Flynn's lawyer, Sidney Powell, asked for the pardon to save her client.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/08/michael-flynn-
judge-says-trump-pardon-does-not-mean-innocence/6494296002/

In September: “General Flynn is entitled to a public exoneration by the court,” Sidney Powell said in an email. “If the system works right, the wrongful prosecution will be dismissed with prejudice. No pardon should be needed. General Flynn is innocent.” It just so happened that a pardon was needed, after everything was said and done.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/judge-dismisses-michael-flynn-case-aft
er-trump-pardon.html

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Thursday, December 24, 2020 1:46 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It doesn't matter how much evidence is found.
It matters very much. That's why the tinfoil liars have to STFU, now. Lying about people can get you sued.

Since you can point to NO evidence WHATSOEVER, maybe you should STFU, too.

There is so much evidence you couldn't piss anywhere near a polling place and not get it wet.

The Establishment and China control the election process and results now.

You reap what you sew, buddy.

The next four years are going to be priceless.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Friday, December 25, 2020 8:24 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It doesn't matter how much evidence is found.
It matters very much. That's why the tinfoil liars have to STFU, now. Lying about people can get you sued.

Since you can point to NO evidence WHATSOEVER, maybe you should STFU, too.

There is so much evidence you couldn't piss anywhere near a polling place and not get it wet.

The Establishment and China control the election process and results now.

You reap what you sew, buddy.

The next four years are going to be priceless.

Well, with all these mountains of solid, undeniable evidence, could you, perhaps, if you don't mind, SHOW IT TO US?

No one seems to be able to prove what you so adamantly claim to know. If it's SO obvious that there was fraud, you'd think somebody could prove it, yet no one has.

I know this is a lot for your tiny mind to grasp, but maybe, just maybe, Biden won because he got more votes?

Trump never had higher than around 40% approval. Americans with 3 digit IQs hate his guts. We always did. Enough to vote him out.

sow.

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Friday, December 25, 2020 8:26 AM

Fox News Hosts Forced to Admit They're Total Morons

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Friday, December 25, 2020 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It doesn't matter how much evidence is found.
It matters very much. That's why the tinfoil liars have to STFU, now. Lying about people can get you sued.

Since you can point to NO evidence WHATSOEVER, maybe you should STFU, too.

There is so much evidence you couldn't piss anywhere near a polling place and not get it wet.

The Establishment and China control the election process and results now.

You reap what you sew, buddy.

The next four years are going to be priceless.

Well, with all these mountains of solid, undeniable evidence, could you, perhaps, if you don't mind, SHOW IT TO US?

No one seems to be able to prove what you so adamantly claim to know. If it's SO obvious that there was fraud, you'd think somebody could prove it, yet no one has.

I know this is a lot for your tiny mind to grasp, but maybe, just maybe, Biden won because he got more votes?

Trump never had higher than around 40% approval. Americans with 3 digit IQs hate his guts. We always did. Enough to vote him out.

sow.

You're just being blocked from seeing the truth when you watch only one source of news, Sally.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Friday, December 25, 2020 1:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I have posted evidence already, REAVERBOT, you seem to have forgotten it.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:15 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I have posted evidence already, REAVERBOT, you seem to have forgotten it.

Apparently, Trump has seen your evidence this morning while Republican Senators have not yet:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
If a Democrat Presidential Candidate had an Election Rigged & Stolen, with proof of such acts at a level never seen before, the Democrat Senators would consider it an act of war, and fight to the death. Mitch & the Republicans do NOTHING, just want to let it pass. NO FIGHT!
7:00 AM · Dec 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1342817496924086278

As soon as "Mitch & the Republicans" see Signym's evidence, they will "fight to the death" for Trump. Signym, tweet that evidence to Mitch (and us) if you care for Trump and want Mitch to "FIGHT!"

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Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:41 AM

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Trump had a brainstorm this morning!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The “Justice” Department and the FBI have done nothing about the 2020 Presidential Election Voter Fraud, the biggest SCAM in our nation’s history, despite overwhelming evidence. They should be ashamed. History will remember. Never give up. See everyone in D.C. on January 6th.
7:14 AM · Dec 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1342821189077622792

There is no role for Trump "in D.C. on January 6th." Nothing for Trump to do, but plenty for V.P. Mike Pence.

Here is what is suppose to happen, unless Trump calls in troops to arrest Congress and stop Pence:
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/22/949134479/congress-role-in-election-res
ults-heres-what-happens-jan-6

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Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:52 AM

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Trump Coup Attempt Coming January 6?

That there will be an attempted coup is no longer a matter of speculation. In an appearance on “Fox & Friends” on December 14, Stephen Miller, perhaps the most deranged and malevolent of Trump’s senior advisers, openly declared the administration’s plan to overturn the election results in the upcoming joint session.

It’s all but certain that when the joint session convenes on January 6, objections to the electoral votes cast in the swing states of Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania indeed will be lodged.

A drama not seen in this country since the election of 1876, when alternate slates of electors were sent to the Senate on behalf of Democrat Samuel Tilden and Republican Rutherford B. Hayes (the eventual winner), will then ensue. The Democrats conceded the election to Hayes in return for an end to Reconstruction and the withdrawal of federal troops from the South. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1876_United_States_presidential_election

More at www.laprogressive.com/trump-coup-attempt/

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Saturday, December 26, 2020 6:39 PM

Trump's still posting lies. Check out this propaganda, handily debunked by Vaush as it goes.

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Monday, December 28, 2020 5:53 PM

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Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. Mike Pence counts the votes on Jan 6th. He might surprise you.

Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, the man whose face adorns Mt Rushmore, among the most revered founding fathers of our country, only became President because he used his unilateral power as President of the Senate to open and count the presidential ballots in his own favor.

Come January 2021, Vice President Mike Pence will be presented with the sealed certificates containing the ballots of the presidential electors. At that moment, the Presidency will be in his hands. And there is nothing stopping Pence, under the authority vested in him as President of the Senate, from declining to open and count the certificates from the six disputed states. If they are (as more than 70% of Republicans believe) certificates from non-electors appointed via voter fraud, why should he open and count them?

The President’s position going into January 2021 is thus considerably stronger than the mainstream media would like to admit. There is Constitutional language and historical precedent that gives his Vice President the unilateral power to decide the outcome of our contested election.

More at https://macris.substack.com/p/who-counts-the-votes-of-the-presidential

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Monday, December 28, 2020 10:44 PM

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:31 AM

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
“A group of Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say 200,000 more votes were counted in the 2020 Election than voters (100% went to Biden). State Representative Frank Ryan said they found troubling discrepancies after an analysis of Election Day data.” @FoxNews

This is far more votes than is needed by me to win Pennsylvania, not to mention hundreds of thousands of votes in other categories which increase my already big lead into a landslide. All other Swing States show likewise. WE NEED NEW & ENERGETIC REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP. This can not stand. Can you imagine if the Republicans stole a Presidential Election from the Democrats - All hell would break out. Republican leadership only wants the path of least resistance. Our leaders (not me, of course!) are pathetic. They only know how to lose! P.S. I got MANY Senators and Congressmen/Congresswomen Elected. I do believe they forgot!
7:59 AM · Dec 29, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343919651336712199

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:13 PM

Failed Presidential Candidate Donald Trump Creates A New Fanfiction, Posts Breaking News In Quotes

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Failed Presidential Candidate Donald Trump Creates A New Fanfiction, Posts Breaking News In Quotes

Apparently she doesn't know how quotes work, or she'd know that he used them correctly.

The only way that what you described above would have been true is if he had only put the quotes around "breaking news" or just around "news".

He quoted a headline of an article. Usage was correct.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
“A group of Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say 200,000 more votes were counted in the 2020 Election than voters (100% went to Biden). State Representative Frank Ryan said they found troubling discrepancies after an analysis of Election Day data.” @FoxNews

This is far more votes than is needed by me to win Pennsylvania, not to mention hundreds of thousands of votes in other categories which increase my already big lead into a landslide. All other Swing States show likewise. WE NEED NEW & ENERGETIC REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP. This can not stand. Can you imagine if the Republicans stole a Presidential Election from the Democrats - All hell would break out. Republican leadership only wants the path of least resistance. Our leaders (not me, of course!) are pathetic. They only know how to lose! P.S. I got MANY Senators and Congressmen/Congresswomen Elected. I do believe they forgot!
7:59 AM · Dec 29, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343919651336712199

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Trump's biggest problem now is that he waited too long to shit all over the terrible Republican "leadership" in this country.

Under the paper-thin surface, there's no difference between Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. Two sides of the same coin.

They're both thrilled that Biden* won* the election.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump's biggest problem now is that he waited too long to shit all over the terrible Republican "leadership" in this country.

Under the paper-thin surface, there's no difference between Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. Two sides of the same coin.

They're both thrilled that Biden* won* the election.

Pelosi and Mitch agree with me that Trump has always been a fat dumb lazy fucker. If you can't see those deficiencies in Trump, too bad for you.

Where they disagree is policy. Pelosi and Mitch are as different as a green traffic light and a red stop light.

What's up with Trump this morning? The usual:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Hearings from Atlanta on the Georgia Election overturn now being broadcast. Check it out. @OANN @newsmax and many more.

@BrianKempGA should resign from office. He is an obstructionist who refuses to admit that we won Georgia, BIG! Also won the other Swing States.
8:26 AM · Dec 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1344288700851744769

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 12:14 PM

You lied about the unemployment situation.

Why should anybody think any opinion you have on Trump or anything else holds any value at all?

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 10:14 AM

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This happened only yesterday:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The United States had more votes than it had people voting, by a lot. This travesty cannot be allowed to stand. It was a Rigged Election, one not even fit for third world countries!
1:38 PM · Dec 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1344400646066331648

Is that true? Ask google the question: "Did the United States have more votes than it had people voting?"
https://www.google.com/search?q=Did+the+United+States+have+more+votes+
than+it+had+people+voting%3F

Here is one answer from google:

More than 159 million registered voters cast ballots in the general election, out of 239 million eligible voters. So it is completely possible that Trump and Biden would post that many total votes.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/30/fact-check-fa
ls-president-than-were-registered-u-s/4010087001/

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Failed Presidential Candidate Donald Trump Creates A New Fanfiction, Posts Breaking News In Quotes

Apparently she doesn't know how quotes work, or she'd know that he used them correctly.

The only way that what you described above would have been true is if he had only put the quotes around "breaking news" or just around "news".

He quoted a headline of an article. Usage was correct.

Whoosh. Right over your tiny head, as usual. He wasn't quoting a damn thing.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/confusion-trump-tweets-nonexis
tent-vote-discrepancy-pennsylvania

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:07 AM

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Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., tore into Republicans who plan to object during the certification of the Electoral College vote next week, saying his party's willingness to entertain President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in this year's election was fueled by worries about how the president and his base would react.

"The president and his allies are playing with fire," Sasse said in a lengthy Facebook post Wednesday night. "If you make big claims, you had better have the evidence. But the president doesn’t and neither do the institutional arsonist members of Congress who will object to the Electoral College vote."

"Let’s be clear what is happening here: We have a bunch of ambitious politicians who think there’s a quick way to tap into the president’s populist base without doing any real, long-term damage. But they’re wrong — and this issue is bigger than anyone’s personal ambitions," Sasse wrote. "Adults don’t point a loaded gun at the heart of legitimate self-government."

"When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent — not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will 'look' to President Trump’s most ardent supporters," Sasse wrote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/playing-fire-gop-sen-be
n-sasse-tears-republicans-planning-object-n1252593

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 7:31 PM

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Vice President Mike Pence's lawyers asked a federal judge Thursday to reject a request from Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas that attempts to force Pence to ignore electoral votes of several key states when Congress meets to certify the 2020 presidential election next week.

"Plaintiffs have presented this Court with an emergency motion raising a host of weighty legal issues about the manner in which the electoral votes for President are to be counted," Pence's filing states. "But these plaintiffs' suit is not a proper vehicle for addressing those issues because plaintiffs have sued the wrong defendant. A suit to establish that the Vice President has discretion over the count, filed against the Vice President, is a walking legal contradiction."

Gohmert argues that the Electoral Count Act unconstitutionally binds Pence to the Electoral College count certified by the states, saying that "Under the Twelfth Amendment, Defendant Pence alone has the exclusive authority and sole discretion to open and permit the counting of the electoral votes for a given state, and where there are competing slates of electors, or where there is objection to any single slate of electors, to determine which electors' votes, or whether none, shall be counted," the suit argues.

Pence's filing pointed out the irony of Gohmert's argument. "Ironically, Representative Gohmert's position, if adopted by the Court, would actually deprive him of his opportunity as a Member of the House under the Electoral Count Act to raise objections to the counting of electoral votes, and then to debate and vote on them."

Much more at https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/politics/pence-gohmert-electoral-colleg
e-lawsuit/index.html

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Friday, January 1, 2021 11:37 PM

Glad the Dems have no power in SCOTUS, because it looks like the polls and the Legacy Media are already prepping the world for the Democrats stealing the senate too.

Have fun watching none of the things you want happen with Dems running all three shows in 2021.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Glad the Dems have no power in SCOTUS, because it looks like the polls and the Legacy Media are already prepping the world for the Democrats stealing the senate too.

Have fun watching none of the things you want happen with Dems running all three shows in 2021.

First thing, no matter what happens in the Georgia runoff elections for the Senate, the Democrats will NOT be running the show in the Senate. When Mitch McConnell is majority leader, Mitch can easily kill any Democrat sponsored legislation without anybody helping him. When he is NOT majority leader, he needs cooperation from 40 Republican Senators to kill anything. Mitch will have that cooperation. If you don't know the rules of the Senate, 6ix, learn them.

The president’s repeated attacks on the voting system could end up depressing turnout in the critical Georgia runoffs. The questions about the integrity of the election may help explain why it seems that Democrats far outpaced Republicans in early voting in the state. A record three million voters in Georgia cast their ballots early for the runoffs. The early voting period ended Thursday and no votes will be counted until polls close Tuesday but data shows more votes were cast in areas that tend to favor Democrats. That means Republicans need to come out in large numbers on the day of the election in order make up the difference.

Early voting ends with record 3M Georgia voters for US Senate runoffs
https://www.ajc.com/politics/early-voting-ends-with-record-3m-georgia-
voters-for-us-senate-runoffs/47HZD2AAXRDZDCHPJXKNZVKRTE/

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 2:35 PM

Oh, I do love it when Second gives me another opportunity to give him a giant intellectual ass whooping.

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Originally posted by second:
First thing, no matter what happens in the Georgia runoff elections for the Senate, the Democrats will NOT be running the show in the Senate.

Incorrect.

In a 50/50 split senate, the Vice President gets the final vote in any tie. The VP does not get a vote on matters where there is no tie, and can choose not to weigh in, in the event of a tie, but the Democrats WILL be running the show in the Senate if they win both runoffs in Georgia.

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When Mitch McConnell is majority leader, Mitch can easily kill any Democrat sponsored legislation without anybody helping him.

He won't be the majority leader of anything in the event of a 50/50 split after Pence is out.

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When he is NOT majority leader, he needs cooperation from 40 Republican Senators to kill anything. Mitch will have that cooperation.

This makes zero sense and you're going to need citations to back this bogus claim up. What you're suggesting is that the Senate Minority Leader can block anything that comes down the pike without a vote in Senate just because. If that were the case, the Senate would never vote on anything in any 2 year period where there was a 59/41 split to a 50/50 split, which obviously hasn't happened.

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If you don't know the rules of the Senate, 6ix, learn them.

You first buddy.

Although there has never been any official legislation recognizing a Senate Majority or Senate Minority Leader as official offices in the chamber, Senate rules and precedents do recognize the roles.

In the event of a 50/50 split, the Senate Majority Leader would likely be decided by the Vice President's party as has been tradition.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 2:56 PM

THG

Based on what Jack posted, of what he claims second posted, I believe all knowing Jack=ass should have responded. The 60% rule applies to cloture of debate — meaning the vote to end further debate. So while a bill is being debated, the rule would require 60 votes to end the debate. But once ended, the vote to approve the bill only takes 50%+1 vote to pass.

The cloture rule is a self-imposed one by the Senate, and it can suspend it at will with only a simple majority (50%+1) vote.

As I see it, seconds only mistake was assuming Jack was smart enough to understand what he was implying. Again, I'm basing my response on a sentence Jack cut and pasted. It would not be unusual for him to misrepresent what second or anyone else for that matter posts.

It is not going unnoticed that Jack is always testifying how smart he is lately. Jack, your insecurity is showing again. I know, I will mispell a word again so you can pounce. Who loves ya buddy?

T

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 4:03 PM

Don't try to interject yourself in the discussion when the adults are talking, Junior.

As per usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Save yourself some embarrassment and go back to making bogus claims about Sigs and Kiki being Russians in another thread.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 5:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Thanks to Signy you've worked your way past your signature problems.

Here's 2 general rules of thumb:

The bracket commands like
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if you don't reverse
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through
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The < > commands are general html commands, recognized by html pages.
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Saturday, January 2, 2021 6:07 PM

Ted knows all of that. He went to college.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 8:30 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

In the event of a 50/50 split, the Senate Majority Leader would likely be decided by the Vice President's party as has been tradition.

Renaming a post office to honor a local is one thing, but passing significant legislation requires 60 votes. Obamacare is the example:

Going into the 2008 elections, the Senate consisted of 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, and two Independents (Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont) who caucused with the Democrats. When the smoke cleared from those elections, the Democrats picked up eight seats to increase their majority to 57-41 (although Democrat Al Franken’s recount victory was not official until July 7). With the two Independents, the Democrats were one vote shy of the supermajority magic number of 60 they needed to ward off any filibuster attempts and move forward with broad healthcare reform legislation.

But on April 28, 2009, the dynamics changed when Pennsylvania Republican Arlen Spector changed parties, giving Senate Democrats that coveted 60th vote.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/physiciansfoundation/2014/03/26/a-look-ba
ck-at-how-the-president-was-able-to-sign-obamacare-into-law-four-years-ago/?sh=48c853e9526b

Congress was designed to cause stalemates and gridlock with the understanding that doing nothing legislatively is always better than doing something imperfectly, something that only 50% + 1 might want. Congress could NOT decide one way or the other about slavery, after having 87 years to think about finally making the obvious decision. The obvious decision could have only been made because slave-owning Congressmen got expelled when their states went to war with the United States. If those states hadn't gone to war, slavery would probably never end, because Congress could have never come to a decision. The US would have kept slavery while the rest of the Universe ended it, just like the US keeps miles, inches and gallons while the rest of the Universe switched to metric.
https://nmaahc.si.edu/blog-post/13th-amendment-constitution-united-sta
tes

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:01 PM

In that case, great.

Democrats are freakin' Looney Tunes in 2020.

Oh... and remind me again what the party makeup was for the senate in the 37th Congress, and why said party suddenly had many of their seats declared vacant even though they had held a 2-to-1 majority in the Senate before that happened?

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:18 PM

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Congress was designed to cause stalemates and gridlock with the understanding that doing nothing legislatively is always better than doing something imperfectly, something that only 50% + 1 might want. Congress could NOT decide one way or the other about slavery, after having 87 years to think about finally making the obvious decision. The obvious decision could have only been made because slave-owning Congressmen got expelled when their states went to war with the United States. If those states hadn't gone to war, slavery would probably never end, because Congress could have never come to a decision. The US would have kept slavery while the rest of the Universe ended it,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_century

hmmmmm.

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just like the US keeps miles, inches and gallons while the rest of the Universe switched to metric.

Well I guess you got me on that one.

But I think that's more of a systemic problem than one to be attributed to Congress specifically.

These types of problems are what happened when an entire country decided to allow a central authority decide the curriculum taught to every child for all that "free" money.

There's a reason why so many teachers are terrible at their jobs today. It's because there's no systemic need for good teachers. They're basically just glorified teleprompter readers at this point. Outside of an otherwise worthless college degree, the only two requirements for a public school teacher is the ability to fog up a mirror held under their nose and no known prior history of diddling kids.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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