REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Election Fraud Debunking Megathread

POSTED BY: REAVERFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, April 22, 2023 09:24
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 17461
PAGE 4 of 16

Monday, November 16, 2020 6:57 PM

REAVERFAN







NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 16, 2020 7:43 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump And Republicans Had A Very Bad 72 Hours In Court Trying To Challenge The Election Results
Trump’s legal strategy so far has failed to undermine, or even delay, President-elect Joe Biden’s win.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/trump-election-lawsuit
s-failing-pennsylvania






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:00 AM

REAVERFAN


‘Lindsey Graham should be investigated immediately’: Widespread shock after reports of Republican’s ‘election fraud’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/lindsey-graham-should-be-investigated
-immediately-widespread-shock-after-reports-republicans-election-fraud
/

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Monday shocked the political world after Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State accused him of election interference.

“Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that he has come under increasing pressure in recent days from fellow Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), to question the validity of legally cast absentee ballots in an effort to reverse President Trump’s narrow loss in the state,” The Washington Post reported Monday. “In a wide-ranging interview about the election, Raffensperger expressed exasperation over a string of baseless allegations coming from Trump and his allies about the integrity of the Georgia results, including claims that Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado-based manufacturer of Georgia’s voting machines, is a ‘leftist’ company with ties to Venezuela that engineered thousands of Trump votes to be left out of the count.”



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:09 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:44 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:23 PM

REAVERFAN


After Trump tweets Defcon hacking video, voting security experts call BS
Dozens of computer scientists say there’s “no credible evidence” of election fraud.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/11/voting-security-experts-re
fute-trump-claims-of-voting-machine-hacking
/





NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:48 PM

REAVERFAN


Georgia secretary of state had witnesses on call when Lindsey Graham plotted to ‘throw out’ ballots
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/georgia-secretary-of-state-had-witnes
ses-on-call-when-lindsey-graham-plotted-to-throw-out-ballots
/





NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:59 PM

REAVERFAN


Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. Uses Alleged GOP Vote Cheats to Claim Texas Counterpart's Fraud Reward
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-lt-gov-alleged-gop-vote-cheats-t
exas-fraud-reward-1547912


"A week ago, Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick offered up to a million dollars for proof of voter fraud. Easy money with 150+ votes & @realDonaldTrump's claim of vast fraud," Lichtman wrote.

"Nope. No takers. Confirmation of DHS finding that this was the most secure election ever. Money talks, BS walks."

"I was a taker," Fetterman replied. "Actually, we had two documented cases of voter fraud in PA. They both involved Republicans voting for either dead or living relatives. I even let my Texas colleague know. Easy money?"

"I'm waiting for our $2M from Lieutenant Governor Patrick," he said, before linking to articles about the two cases of alleged voter fraud in Pennsylvania. The two men charged, both registered Republicans, had separately attempted to vote on behalf of a dead parent.




NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:57 PM

REAVERFAN


Sen. Graham’s attempt to overturn Georgia results confirm soft coup plans
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/sen-grahams-attempt-to-overturn-g
eorgia-results-confirm-soft-coup-plans
/

Until now, some have explained support for Trump’s refusal to concede by people like Graham, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and House Republican Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy as nothing more than their wanting to give Trump’s bruised ego a chance to come to terms with his defeat.

Graham’s criminally coercive phone call to Raffensperger, however, shows that he and other top GOP lawmakers are actively participating in laying the groundwork for a possible soft legal coup if they can get away with it, keeping Trump in office despite his electoral loss.

Even if that is not the case, the actions of Graham and other leading Republicans are laying the groundwork for perhaps one-third of the U.S. electorate to never accept the results of the 2020 election. They hope this will strengthen their hands in the Senate and House as they sabotage a Biden administration on an ongoing basis.

It is clear that had the final outcome of the race come down to only one state, they would have had a much greater chance of pulling off the soft coup option than they have now. Instead, they have to wage attacks on election officials, file court cases, and explore sending alternate slates to the Electoral College in mid-December in several states while simultaneously delaying the transition to a Biden administration.

The criminal phone call to Raffensperger by Graham shows they haven’t totally given up on all of their soft coup options.

Trump’s refusal to concede and the refusal to allow the Biden transition to begin, meanwhile, is causing more than just political problems for a new Biden administration. As Biden himself noted in a press conference Monday, more people will die from COVID-19 because of lack of coordination between the outgoing and incoming administrations.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:11 PM

REAVERFAN

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/2020-house-races-majority/
index.html


... the last few days have been filled with close House races (finally) being projected. And those projections reveal just how poorly House Democrats did.
With just a handful of races still uncalled at this point, Republicans have gained nine seats -- having won 12 Democratic-held districts and lost just three of their own.


And there's a handful of close races still to count.

And yet Biden* 'won' despite all the republican down ballot votes.


NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:03 PM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:03 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:



Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/2020-house-races-majority/
index.html


... the last few days have been filled with close House races (finally) being projected. And those projections reveal just how poorly House Democrats did.
With just a handful of races still uncalled at this point, Republicans have gained nine seats -- having won 12 Democratic-held districts and lost just three of their own.


And there's a handful of close races still to count.

And yet Biden* 'won' despite all the republican down ballot votes.


Even more proof it wasn't rigged.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:08 PM

REAVERFAN


President Trump on Tuesday said in a tweet that Chris Krebs, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency director, has been “terminated.” The president, who has continued to refuse to accept that he lost the election, said a recent statement by Krebs, in which he called the Nov. 3 election “the most secure in American history,” was “highly inaccurate.” There is no evidence to back Trump’s claims.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

more bullshit for the idiot RF/ SECOND.

fify


Quote:

The analysis looked at the final ratio of Democrat to Republican presidential votes in all 50 states. The norm for 40 of those 50 states was that, when counting mail-in ballots, they reflect the same ultimate ratio for the election as a whole. Thus, if a Democrat ends by winning 2 to 1, the mail-in ballots will also reflect this ratio as they arrive and get counted. That's because they've been shuffled in the postal system so that they don't arrive as clumps of ballots from red or blue districts. This ratio of red versus blue incoming ballots shows up as a constant straight line on a chart.


However, in ten states, nine of which Trump contests, the chart showed a huge and bizarre bounce right around 4 a.m. That, of course, was after the fraud states abruptly stopped counting, only to resume a few hours later, and that was when the tide turned so dramatically in Biden's direction that he completely wiped out Trump's advantage.





That's only one of the three statistical anomalies that I know of that should be examined by statisticians.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:46 PM

REAVERFAN


Mysterious candidate who likely swayed tight Florida Senate race under investigation
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/ar
ticle247238749.html


The razor-thin victory that delivered Latinas for Trump co-founder Ileana Garcia to the Florida Senate and ousted Democrat José Javier Rodríguez continues to raise eyebrows for one reason: a mysterious third candidate named Alex Rodriguez.

Alex Rodriguez, a one-time mechanic with no history in local politics, never started a campaign website, attended no candidate forums and received no donations, save for a $2,000 loan from himself. Mailers pitching his name sent to voters in the Coral Gables area were sent by a shadowy political group that, so far, has been untraceable.

When a television reporter recently tracked Alex Rodriguez down, he pretended to be someone else.

Alex Rodriguez’s candidacy appeared to exist for only one reason: to suck votes away from incumbent José Javier Rodríguez, who shares the same surname. The incumbent lost by just 34 votes, and he is now calling for an investigation into Alex Rodriguez — and whoever may have put him up to run.

The shadow candidate has drawn the attention of law enforcement. Sources with knowledge of the investigation tell the Miami Herald that Miami-Dade state prosecutors are now probing the mysterious candidacy, which has also led to a series of investigative reports from the Herald and other news outlets such as WPLG-10 and Univision, whose reporters found Rodriguez renting a home in Palm Beach County, not in Miami-Dade County where he filed to vote and run for state office.
---

Again, as I've proven beyond doubt, the only election shenanigans always, only, come from the right.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:17 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
President Trump on Tuesday said in a tweet that Chris Krebs, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency director, has been “terminated.” The president, who has continued to refuse to accept that he lost the election, said a recent statement by Krebs, in which he called the Nov. 3 election “the most secure in American history,” was “highly inaccurate.” There is no evidence to back Trump’s claims.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/

In a tweet from his personal account Tuesday night, Krebs maintained: “We did it right.”

Chris Krebs @C_C_Krebs
Honored to serve. We did it right. Defend Today, Secure Tomorrow. #Protect2020
6:35 PM · Nov 17, 2020

Krebs told the media last week that he expected to be fired for being perceived as disloyal to Trump. His agency, CISA, is under the Department of Homeland Security.

www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-fires-chris-krebs-who-oversaw-election
-cybersecurity-11605659258


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Quote:

The analysis looked at the final ratio of Democrat to Republican presidential votes in all 50 states. The norm for 40 of those 50 states was that, when counting mail-in ballots, they reflect the same ultimate ratio for the election as a whole. Thus, if a Democrat ends by winning 2 to 1, the mail-in ballots will also reflect this ratio as they arrive and get counted. That's because they've been shuffled in the postal system so that they don't arrive as clumps of ballots from red or blue districts. This ratio of red versus blue incoming ballots shows up as a constant straight line on a chart.


However, in ten states, nine of which Trump contests, the chart showed a huge and bizarre bounce right around 4 a.m. That, of course, was after the fraud states abruptly stopped counting, only to resume a few hours later, and that was when the tide turned so dramatically in Biden's direction that he completely wiped out Trump's advantage.





That's only one of the three statistical anomalies that I know of that should be examined by statisticians.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:34 AM

REAVERFAN


Team Trump Hails ‘Huge Win’ in Michigan as It Turns Into Humiliating Defeat
WOMP WOMP
Trump and his allies prematurely celebrated what they thought was a game-changing victory in Michigan, only for it to fall apart in a matter of minutes.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-hails-huge-win-in-michigan-as
-it-turns-into-humiliating-defeat


Again, as I've said, and always proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, the ONLY election fraud going on comes 100% from the right.




NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:05 AM

REAVERFAN



That's some top notch lawyering, there.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:22 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:10 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump and his supporters are discovering how hard it is to sabotage election results
https://www.washingtonpost.com/

If you have one point of vulnerability, it's easier.

If this came down to one single state, it becomes a much more fraught situation.

But when Biden has the sheer number of EC votes that he current does, with such a diverse set of battleground states that he's won, it's just not feasible.

It's neither feasible for Biden to have cheated to win those states, nor is it feasible for Trump to cheat to overturn those results.

This is why Russia pursued the interference strategy - sowing propaganda and disinformation - that they did in 2016 and 2020.

Certainly Russian intelligence considered manipulating the actual vote. And certainly, they realized, as anyone would when considering the problem, that America is too big, and that with 50 individual governments tabulating and conducting the election, it's too complex a system to successfully hijack.

Additionally, if you do try to physically alter the vote, and at such a scale, you will almost inevitably leave behind incontrovertible evidence that you had done so, which would do more harm to your purpose than if you just did nothing at all. That is a huge risk with a very unlikely possibility of an upside.

Trump supporters can scree all they want, but even Republican officials and Republican judges have thrown these cases out of court with prejudice because they're utterly bereft of anything substantial. Donald Trump has been alleging voter fraud for four years. As President he assembled a task force to find evidence of it and it spent a year searching and found nothing. Because it's simply cheaper and more effective to manipulate elections via media and disinformation. It's a more reliable mechanism of producing more reliable results.

This is one of the reasons that the insinuation that Democrats stole the election is fucking stupid. It makes no fucking sense. How would Democrats manipulate elections in so many different states, all with their own governments, and do so in a way that produces not a single instance of material evidence?

When Democrats alleged that Trump cheated in 2016, it wasn't about the physical vote. It was the fact that he requested help from, and received help from, Russian intelligence in producing and disseminating damning information about his opponent.

And in fact this is exactly what he repeated in 2020 with the Hunter emails, a fabricated scandal almost certainly produced by Russian agents. Remarkable, given this is what he was originally impeached for.

It simply didn't work in 2020 as it did in 2016.

So there was cheating in the 2020 election. By Team Trump, running precisely the same scam they did in 2016, and simply not being as effective this time around.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:32 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"The analysis looked at the final ratio of Democrat to Republican presidential votes in all 50 states. "



What analysis? Done by whom? Link? For what years? On Wednesday? You made a living in Science? lol

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
The norm for 40 of those 50 states was that, when counting mail-in ballots, they reflect the same ultimate ratio for the election as a whole.



Were all of those election years during a pandemic (ie, not a "norm")?

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Thus, if a Democrat ends by winning 2 to 1, the mail-in ballots will also reflect this ratio as they arrive and get counted. That's because they've been shuffled in the postal system so that they don't arrive as clumps of ballots from red or blue districts. This ratio of red versus blue incoming ballots shows up as a constant straight line on a chart.



Need to see data on that - links?

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
However, in ten states, nine of which Trump contests, the chart showed a huge and bizarre bounce right around 4 a.m.



Do you have any... Evidence?

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That, of course, was after the fraud states...



Fraud? Do you have any... Evidence?

Without any, you are proposing an outcome based on speculation.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
... abruptly stopped counting, only to resume a few hours later, and that was when the tide turned so dramatically in Biden's direction that he completely wiped out Trump's advantage.



Evidence that this happened as described? Just winging it? Cutting and pasting from "some web site"- never a strong move.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:42 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump Campaign Officials Started Pressuring Georgia’s Secretary of State Long Before the Election
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-campaign-officials-started-pr
essuring-georgias-secretary-of-state-long-before-the-election


Long before Republican senators began publicly denouncing how Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger handled the voting there, he withstood pressure from the campaign of Donald Trump to endorse the president for reelection.

Raffensperger, a Republican, declined an offer in January to serve as an honorary co-chair of the Trump campaign in Georgia, according to emails reviewed by ProPublica. He later rejected GOP requests to support Trump publicly, he and his staff said in interviews. Raffensperger said he believed that, because he was overseeing the election, it would be a conflict of interest for him to take sides. Around the country, most secretaries of state remain officially neutral in elections.

The attacks on his job performance are “clear retaliation,” Raffensperger said. “They thought Georgia was a layup shot Republican win. It is not the job of the secretary of state’s office to deliver a win — it is the sole responsibility of the Georgia Republican Party to get out the vote and get its voters to the polls. That is not the job of the secretary of state’s office.”

Leading the push for Raffensperger’s endorsement was Billy Kirkland, a senior adviser to the Trump campaign who was a key manager of its Georgia operations. Kirkland burst uninvited into a meeting in Raffensperger’s office in the late spring that was supposed to be about election procedures and demanded that the secretary of state endorse Trump, according to Raffensperger and two of his staffers.

When reached by phone, Kirkland directed the request for comment to the Trump campaign, which did not respond. The White House and the Georgia Republican Party also did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

Joe Biden has been projected as the winner of the presidential election in Georgia by a margin of roughly 14,000 votes. The state is now conducting a hand recount at the Trump campaign’s request. Raffensperger’s office has said that the recount won’t swing enough votes to tip the state into Trump’s column.
---
Georgia has spoken.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
an entire post showing in detail a per-sentence/ phrase demonstration that he can't google

fify

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



BTW CC - shall I add you to the list of people adamantly against a thorough scholarly statistical evaluation of the presidential vote?

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:35 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Whenever I post "do you have any evidence?" it's just a stall, an old tired deflection that us old tired folk use when we have nothing to say and no argument to stand on - I'm probably evening lying!"



fify


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:56 AM

REAVERFAN


Pennsylvania Attorney General Says Rudy Giuliani Is 'Sad to Watch'
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-attorney-general-rudy-giuliani-s
ad-watch-1548252


On Cuomo Prime Time, Shapiro said he doubted the case would succeed.

"It will not work to overturn the will of the people in Pennsylvania," he said.

Shapiro went on to discuss Giuliani's role in the case and expressed disappointment with the man who was once known as "America's Mayor" for his response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

"It's sad. It is sad to watch someone who America looked to in a time of need descend into this type of lunacy and conspiracy theory and fearmongering," Shapiro said.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by CC:
Whenever I [CC] ignore "do you have any evidence?" it's just a stall, an old tired deflection that us old tired folk use when we have nothing to say and no argument to stand on - I'm probably even lying!"

FIF YOU!

Because, yanno, evidence-free accusations are worth less than a dime a dozen, but you get paid a lot more than that to do it, so you continue.



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



BTW CC - shall I add you to the list of people adamantly against a thorough scholarly statistical evaluation of the presidential vote?

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:25 PM

REAVERFAN


No, Trump did not win in Nevada.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/technology/no-trump-did-not-win-in-
nevada.html


[Lame Duck] President Trump claimed a “big victory” on Monday night after officials in Clark County, Nev., voted to rerun one local race that had a margin of just 10 votes.

In the president’s words, officials found “large-scale voter discrepancy” and “did not have confidence in their own election security.”

In fact, the news in Clark County was bad for the president; a review of the votes found a relatively tiny number of problems; and the campaign of the Republican in the close race repudiated the president’s claims about the election’s security.

The most significant news for President Trump in Nevada on Monday was that officials in Clark County, by far the state’s most populous county, certified their presidential election results, confirming that the president lost by more than 90,000 votes in the county.





NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:32 PM

REAVERFAN


Joe Biden Crosses 79 Million Votes, 10 Million More Than Any Other President in History
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-crosses-79-million-votes-10-million
-more-any-other-president-history-1548418


As ballots continue being counted across the nation, Joe Biden has now received at least 79.1 million votes, or 10 million more than the previous record set by President Barack Obama in 2008.

As of Wednesday morning, Biden had raked in an impressive 51 percent of the popular vote, compared to President Donald Trump's 47.2 percent. The current president has received at least 73.4 million votes.

This year's presidential election saw record-breaking voter turnout. On November 4, it was determined that over 160 million people cast their votes on Election Day and through the early voting period, making 2020 the highest voter turnout election in 120 years.

Major media outlets projected wins for Biden in the key swing states of Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia, clinching the nomination for the Democratic candidate.
---

Biden won. Decisively. Get over it, snowflake.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



BTW CC - shall I add you to the list of people adamantly against a thorough scholarly statistical evaluation of the presidential vote?


NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:55 PM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:42 PM

REAVERFAN


READ: Formal request to Senate Ethics Committee to investigate Sen. Lindsey Graham
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/politics/graham-ethics-request/index.ht
ml


Three ethics experts -- Walter Shaub, a former top ethics watchdog for the federal government, Richard Painter, the chief ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush's administration, and Claire Finkelstein, the director of the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law -- asked the Senate Ethics Committee on Wednesday to look into Sen. Lindsey Graham's call last week with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and whether Graham "suggested" that Raffensperger "disenfranchise Georgia voters by not counting votes lawfully cast for the office of president."
---
Miss Lindsey went from calling Trump a kook to carrying his water overnight. I wonder what kompromat Putin has on him?



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:47 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Dueling Inaugurations

Much of Wall Street views the Trump campaign's efforts to overturn the election results as a desperate sideshow destined to fail. But JPMorgan is telling clients there's still a chance that this process descends into chaos. It is 2020, after all.

Michael Cembalest, chairman of market and investment strategy at JPMorgan Asset Management, warned in a report Wednesday of the "remote risk of an American horror story" and "constitutional mayhem."

Cembalest, who helps oversee $2.2 trillion in assets, pointed to President Donald Trump's Tuesday night firing of the top US election security official, Attorney General William Barr's decision to authorize prosecutors to probe alleged voter fraud and the fleeting drama over certifying election results in Michigan's largest county.

"Bottom line: a LOT of very unorthodox things have to happen for Trump to be reelected," the JPMorgan strategist wrote. "Even so, I'm not ruling anything out."

Post-election chaos would of course rattle markets, which famously hate uncertainty. The smoother-than-feared election set off a celebration on Wall Street, with the S&P 500 notching its biggest post-election rally since 1932.

But if investors don't know who's going to be in charge of the world's largest economy, they could easily sell first and ask questions later.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/business/stock-market-election-trump-jp
morgan/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:01 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump Claims Michigan Can't Certify Its Election Results Hours After the State Does Just That
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-claims-michigan-cant-certify-its-electi
on-results-hours-after-state-does-just-that-1548464


President Donald Trump claimed on Wednesday that Michigan cannot certify its election results due to voter fraud, just hours after the state officially certified its largest county.

"The Great State of Michigan, with votes being far greater than the number of people who voted, cannot certify the election," the president tweeted, adding, "The Democrats cheated big time, and got caught."
---

Except, they didn't.





NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:09 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump's strategy for contesting the election: throw out Black people's votes
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/11/trumps-strategy-for-conte
sting-the-election-throw-out-black-peoples-votes
/

Between what we already know about Lindsey Graham’s ongoing interference and what almost happened last night in Detroit, this is clearly their strategy.

Fuck ‘em. Indict every single person who has been complicit in this fuckery.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:47 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump campaign will pay $3 million for a seemingly hopeless recount in 2 Wisconsin counties
https://theweek.com/speedreads/950630/trump-campaign-pay-3-million-see
mingly-hopeless-recount-2-wisconsin-counties


President Trump's campaign is spending $3 million on a recount that won't change his fate.

Trump's campaign shifted from requesting a full recount in Wisconsin to paying for a recount in just Milwaukee and Dane counties on Wednesday. The Trump campaign said it chose those counties as they were home to the "worst irregularities" in the vote count, though there's no evidence that's true.
---

It's where most of the black people live. Can't be counting black votes, right?



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:50 PM

REAVERFAN


AS HIS BOGUS ELECTION-FRAUD CHARGES GO UP IN FLAMES, TRUMP GOES INTO HIDING
His already bleak hopes of mounting a successful legal challenge to the election now in the hands of Rudy Giuliani, the president has receded from public view. “It feels like bunker mentality,” one official said.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/rudy-giuliani-trump-election-f
raud-cases-not-working






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:10 PM

REAVERFAN


As Audit Concludes, Georgia's Vote Count Shows Biden Still Ahead
https://www.gpb.org/news/2020/11/18/audit-concludes-georgias-vote-coun
t-shows-biden-still-ahead


This was supposed to be a routine audit, but the Secretary of State tacked on a manual hand recount of every ballot to the audit. The Trump campaign is requesting another electronic recount after this hand recount, but it's basically pointless: It's nearly impossible to overturn a margin of victory of over 10,000 votes through a recount, especially since there has already been a hand recount of the votes.





NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:14 PM

REAVERFAN


Been injured in an election? Call Rudy Giuliani now!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/18/rudy-giuliani-opaci
ty-lawyer-for-you/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com


Hi! I’m Rudy Giuliani! Have you been injured in an election? Do you think you should be president, but due to an unexpected setback, you’ve wound up short by thousands of votes in key states? Hire me, and you will get the settlement you deserve! And I mean the settlement you deserve!

I put the “personal injury” in “personal injury lawyer”! Most lawyers are chasing after the ambulance, and not the reverse, but I guarantee that if you have not already suffered a strange injury, I WILL inflict one on your case, through my precise level of knowledge of the law!

Do you have a weird laptop of unclear provenance? Do you need, not a good lawyer, just someone who is technically a lawyer? Call me, the former mayor of New York, a man who has been a candidate for president and who once took down mobsters but is in a Different! Place! Now!

Have other law firms withdrawn from your litigation on the grounds that an attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the election is not something they want to be a part of? I won’t! Call me! My cellphone number is readily available! Maybe TOO available, and I DO text back, even if I don’t know who you ARE!

I have almost THREE DECADES OF EXPERIENCE since the last time I was in a courtroom! But my skills remain just as sharp as my understanding of the law! Please pay me $2,000 an hour, unless you want to pay me a different amount; I’m going to leave it up to you!

With me in your corner, judges will be wowed. Most judges who have had to deal with me so far have been rendered TEMPORARILY SPEECHLESS and also MADE FACES!

I guarantee OPACITY — is a word whose meaning will elude me when I appear in court on your behalf! I will say something to the judge like, “I’m not quite sure I know what ‘opacity’ means. It probably means you can see, right?” and then the judge will say, “It means you can’t,” and I will say, “Big words, your honor.” That’s the kind of legal representation you can expect from me! It’s on the record!

I promise that, when it comes to standards of scrutiny, I will get “the normal one” applied on your behalf! I have never heard of strict scrutiny and I won’t ask for it! Sean Hannity thinks I’m doing a GOOD JOB!

Can you afford literally anyone else to represent you? Don’t do that! If you aren’t a lawyer yourself and don’t know what a lawyer ought to sound like, or basic details of the law, I bet hiring me will seem like a great idea!

I am definitely a lawyer! I have a surefire way to overturn any election result you dislike, or this isn’t the Four Seasons Hotel!

Call toll-free now!



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:46 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:21 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Why Trump lost in Georgia by 12,781 Votes: His big mouth threw away 24,000 Votes

“I’m a conservative Republican. Yes, I wanted President Trump to win. But as secretary of state (of Georgia) we have to do our job,” he said in an interview with the Guardian. “I’m gonna walk that fine, straight, line with integrity. I think that integrity still matters.”

He added there were 24,000 Republicans who voted by mail in Georgia’s primary, but did not turn out to vote in November. Those voters didn’t vote again in November, Raffensperger suggested, because Trump railed against voting by mail.

“Voters listened to the president, they didn’t show up,” he said. “That would have been a 10,000 person cushion that President Trump would have had if those folks would have come back out. They just stayed at home.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/19/brad-raffensperger-don
ald-trump-georgia-voter-fraud-claims


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:50 AM

REAVERFAN


1 in 10 Go Hungry as Trump and McConnell Fixate on Challenging Election Results
https://truthout.org/articles/1-in-10-go-hungry-as-trump-and-mcconnell
-fixate-on-challenging-election-results
/



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:52 AM

REAVERFAN


Rudy Giuliani Isn’t Even Trying to Make Coherent Legal Arguments Anymore
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/trump-rudy-giuliani-pennsy
lvania-lawsuits-not-coherent.html


Pathetic.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:07 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:18 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:29 AM

REAVERFAN






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:55 AM

REAVERFAN




Citing Q, now.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Fri, March 29, 2024 02:54 - 3414 posts
BUILD BACK BETTER!
Fri, March 29, 2024 02:49 - 11 posts
Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility
Fri, March 29, 2024 00:45 - 56 posts
Elections; 2024
Fri, March 29, 2024 00:33 - 2075 posts
Long List of Celebrities that are Still Here
Fri, March 29, 2024 00:00 - 1 posts
China
Thu, March 28, 2024 22:10 - 447 posts
Biden
Thu, March 28, 2024 22:03 - 853 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Thu, March 28, 2024 17:20 - 6155 posts
Well... He was no longer useful to the DNC or the Ukraine Money Laundering Scheme... So justice was served
Thu, March 28, 2024 12:44 - 1 posts
Salon: NBC's Ronna blunder: A failed attempt to appeal to MAGA voters — except they hate her too
Thu, March 28, 2024 07:04 - 1 posts
Russian losses in Ukraine
Wed, March 27, 2024 23:21 - 987 posts
human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
Wed, March 27, 2024 15:03 - 824 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL