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Iran, Israel and America, in a nutshell.

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:37 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Jon Stewart did a bit which, in my opinion, explains why all the pissing contest Iran, Israel and we are having. Pardon the commercial, and if you want to get to the meat, start at 3:39.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-march-6-2012/words-of-warcraft

Wouldn't it be amusing if he's hit the nail on the head, and that's all this is?

...perhaps "amusing" isn't quite the right word...

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:52 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Talented stand up comedian? Yes

Clear, objective and informative explanation of geo-political situations? Not so much.

Note to self: I wonder how long Anthony will continue with his childish, moronic persecution of others whom he falsely accuses of things for which they're not guilty.

Apparently, Storybook thinks I'm a " dumb redneck motherfucker" because I don't cater to extreme, far Left wing views and socialist dogma. So be it.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:04 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello Niki,

It would be a relief if all of this was merely posturing for political reasons.

--Anthony


_______________________________________________

Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196

Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:23 AM

STORYMARK


LOL. Poor Rappy, gotta whinge in his sig now. Hilarious.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:45 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


The REALLY funny part is how the first line accuses Anthony of claiming things that arent true, when he has the reference thread that proves his point there...all while his second line accuses Story of something with no quote, or backup, based on something that is 100 percent opinion.

The irony...oh its delicious.

I used to enjoy watching u guys go back-and-forth w him, but it really is more fun once I picked up my own stick and started poking the bear.

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:34 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Jon Stewart did a bit which, in my opinion, explains why all the pissing contest Iran, Israel and we are having.



Too bad no one listens to Jon Stewart.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:39 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
The REALLY funny part is how the first line accuses Anthony of claiming things that arent true, when he has the reference thread that proves his point there...all while his second line accuses Story of something with no quote, or backup, based on something that is 100 percent opinion.

The irony...oh its delicious.

I used to enjoy watching u guys go back-and-forth w him, but it really is more fun once I picked up my own stick and started poking the bear.



Actually, there is no irony, what so ever.

While I don't deny what I said, and then later on went to clarify where Rush actually got it WRONG, Anthony falsely attributes my ONE comment on that ONE case and extrapolates it to how I feel of ALL women. He completely misrepresents the entire issue, as do most of y'all, for your own personal reasons. I get that. I'm just calling you out on it.

Note to self: I wonder how long Anthony will continue with his childish, moronic persecution of others whom he falsely accuses of things for which they're not guilty.

Apparently, Storybook thinks I'm a " dumb redneck motherfucker" because I don't cater to extreme, far Left wing views and socialist dogma. So be it.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:46 AM

STORYMARK


What would we ever do without Rappy an his infinite wisdom. Obviously everyone but him is wrong, always.

Thank you Rappy - my days would be so boring without all your bullshit to laugh at. (You can go ahead and add that to your signature, too - if you think it'll earn you some extra pity)

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:05 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Jon Stewart did a bit which, in my opinion, explains why all the pissing contest Iran, Israel and we are having.



Too bad no one listens to Jon Stewart.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Really?

What are his ratings like again?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:56 PM

STORYMARK


Pretty damned good. But reality has a librul bias, remember.

http://www.politicususa.com/jon-stewart-fox-ratings/

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:58 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Really?

What are his ratings like again?



Just agreeing with Niki.

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
But as to comparing him to Stewart or Colbert, that's hysterical. Each has a HALF-HOUR show once a day and weilds virtually NO power.



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51244

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Really?

What are his ratings like again?



Just agreeing with Niki.

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
But as to comparing him to Stewart or Colbert, that's hysterical. Each has a HALF-HOUR show once a day and weilds virtually NO power.



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51244

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Not seeing where she said no one watches him. Are you just making stuff up and assigning beliefs and positions to people again?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, March 9, 2012 6:54 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Really?

What are his ratings like again?



Just agreeing with Niki.

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
But as to comparing him to Stewart or Colbert, that's hysterical. Each has a HALF-HOUR show once a day and weilds virtually NO power.



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51244

"Keep the Shiny side up"



LOL.

Caught in a lie (or at best, tossing out a complete falsehood without even a scant effort to know WTF you're talking about), shift goalposts. Well done.

You might have missed one little detail - Niki said nothing about ratings (that was you - and you were full of it).



Note to self: Come up with some pity-baiting sig line so everyone sees how persecuted poor wittle me is. Then I can be just like Rappy!

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Friday, March 9, 2012 7:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hey, thanx Story! I didn't know that, and what it says is illuminating!

And it's true, I said nothing, nor was I thinking about, ratings. The fact that Stewart's little four-day-a-week, half-hour show out does ALL of FauxNews' ratings gives me hope, and speaks volumes.

And yes, it WOULD be truly wonderful if that's all this was, hopefully everyone (with notable exceptions) wishes that too. As long as the elections happened BEFORE an actual war was begun!



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Saturday, March 10, 2012 3:09 PM

OONJERAH



Today, 10 March

      Israel launches fresh air strikes on Gaza => http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17329734

Has nothing to do with Iran, right? *?*



             

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Saturday, March 10, 2012 3:40 PM

OONJERAH



      Iran's UN fact sheet: Weapons track not confirmed =>
    http://www.newsday.com/news/world/iran-s-un-fact-sheet-weapons-track-n
ot-confirmed-1.3593950




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Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:01 PM

OONJERAH



Official: Israel, US disagree on Iran timetable =>
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017814585_apmlisrae
liran.html

Israel and the U.S. disagree on what would be a realistic timetable for
stopping Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, Israel's defense minister
said Thursday, but he stopped short of threatening unilateral Israeli action.
------------------------------

No chance Iran will take a chance against Israel =>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-chance-iran-will-take-a-chan
ce-against-israel/2012/03/21/gIQASuNLUS_story.html

Yes, the Iranian government may profess hatred for Israel and shout that
it must be destroyed, but let’s be real: When Iran goes nuclear, it will
engage Israel in a MAD (mutually assured destruction) standoff. Since
Israel has the bomb (plenty of them, in fact), an Iranian nuclear strike
against Israel would ensure Iran’s annihilation. The ayatollahs running
Iran aren’t stupid. In fact, they need Israel far more than Israel needs them.

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Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:06 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


{{{{shudder}}}}



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Friday, March 23, 2012 4:40 PM

OONJERAH



Israel opposes UN inquiry into threats to Palestinian rights

"ISRAEL HAS decided not to co-operate with a United Nations
fact-finding mission mandated to investigate how Israeli
settlements may be infringing on Palestinian rights."
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/0324/1224313819047.html




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Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, that one pissers me off, too. Israel has long had a policy of putting up settlements in Palestinian territory, then expanding and expanding and refusing to slow down development. Makes me sick, especially since our country has so blindly backed them all along.



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Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:18 PM

OONJERAH



Egyptian candidates' tough words on peace turn Israel wary =>
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/13/3608181/egyptian-candidates-tough
-words.html


Last month, a long-standing gas deal between Israel and Egypt was suddenly canceled
by the Egyptian partner. The deal, which provided Israel with almost 40 percent of its
natural gas needs, was touted as a symbol of good relations between the two countries,
and the language that made up its charter carried frequent references to the 1979 peace
deal between the two countries.

Now, with less than two weeks to go before the first round of Egyptian presidential
elections, many in both Israel and Egypt are wondering if peace will hold.

Every Egyptian presidential candidate has publicly questioned the peace deal, leaving
many in both countries to wonder if an arrangement that ousted President Hosni Mubarak
defended for three decades isn't about to fade away.



. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.


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Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:37 AM

OONJERAH



U.S. Ambassador to Israel Speaks of Military Option for Iran =>
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/world/middleeast/united-states-ambas
sador-dan-shapiro-to-israel-speaks-of-military-option-for-iran.html


JERUSALEM — The American ambassador to Israel said this week that not only was
America willing to use military force to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons,
but that preparations had already been made for a possible attack.

“It would be preferable to resolve this diplomatically and through the use of pressure
than to use military force,” the ambassador, Dan Shapiro, said at a meeting Tuesday
of the Israeli bar association. “But that doesn’t mean that option is not fully available.
And not just available, but it’s ready. The necessary planning has been done to ensure
that it’s ready.”

While American leaders, including President Obama and his defense secretary and chair-
man of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have frequently said all options are on the table regarding
Iran . . .


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Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:45 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Jon Stewart did a bit which, in my opinion, explains why all the pissing contest Iran, Israel and we are having.



Too bad no one listens to Jon Stewart.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Yeah, no one's been listening to him 4 nights a week for the last 12 years straight.

ETA - in my haste to chide Geezer I failed to see others had beaten me too it - well done and bravo.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:25 PM

OONJERAH



Iran Gets New Offer From Powers at Nuclear Talks in Iraq =>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/05/23/bloomberg_
articlesM4FQ301A74E901-M4HOB.DTL


Chinese, French, German, Russian, British and U.S. negotiators -- the so-called
P5+1 group -- presented the offer today before adjourning, said Michael Mann,
the spokesman for European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton. The P5+1
wants Iran to reduce production of 20 percent-enriched uranium in exchange for
the offer, he said, without providing specifics . . .



. . .I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. ~Charles R Swindoll

If I have to react to others all the time, then they own my mind more than I do.
If I let others tell me how to feel, I lose my ability to choose happiness.
If I let others tell me who I am, I've vacated self-definition.
Finally, I realized how foolish I was to give others such power over me.

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Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:30 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...




...which is pretty much the reply to anything and everything having to do with Iran that they feed us these days... IMHO


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