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Election Fraud Debunking Megathread

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Friday, December 11, 2020 6:12 PM

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Texas attorney general does right-wing media tour on his lawsuit to steal the election for Trump
Supreme hype for a claim of constitutional “harm” to Republican states — from Democrats winning elections
https://www.mediamatters.org/voter-fraud-and-suppression/texas-attorne
y-general-does-right-wing-media-tour-his-lawsuit-steal


When Texas attorney general Ken Paxton first filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court demanding that all the votes of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — 10.4 million votes in total — be thrown out completely, the general media response was to call it a stunt. Paxton is under investigation for an alleged bribery scheme, and observers speculated that, by filing this ridiculous lawsuit, he is trawling for a presidential pardon from Donald Trump, whose recent pardon of his crony Michael Flynn has instilled hope among other GOP lowlifes that they can bribe Trump to do the same for them.

Yet even though this suit is widely dismissed as a joke, a slew of other elected Republicans joined the lawsuit on Thursday, lending support to Paxton's argument that red states should be able to overturn the results of an election that didn't end well for Republicans. So far, 17 Republican state attorneys general and 106 Republicans in the House of Representatives — more than half the GOP caucus — have signed onto amicus briefs supporting Paxton's absurd demands that all the votes of the residents of these four states be destroyed. Six states have asked to join Paxton's lawsuit directly. On Monday, only a couple of House Republicans — mainly Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama — were willing to openly support Trump's efforts to steal the election. Now it's the majority of the House GOP caucus.

In doing so, these Republicans have outed themselves as opponents of democracy. There is no other way to read this, and no wiggle room to pretend otherwise. This isn't about "voter fraud" or any of the other bad-faith gambits that Trump and his supporters are throwing out as distractions. It's about throwing out entire state elections because they favored a Democrat.
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Remember when these assholes were crying that the impeachment was going against the will of the voters?

They're literally trying to invalidate the will of voters now.





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Friday, December 11, 2020 6:14 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?

Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?

Lincoln was elected President with less than 40% of the popular vote. In that election, the losers lost because they split their votes between three competing candidates. Before Lincoln was inaugurated, the losers planned to assassinate him, but he evaded the losers. The losers then coalesced around Jefferson Davis as their new President. The Army calling Davis its president killed about a million Americans in retaliation against the election of Lincoln. That Army was defeated by Lincoln's Army. Despite that, the spiteful losers in the election of 1860 had one more killing to go: Abraham Lincoln. That's your history lesson for today, Signym.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Secession_and_inaugurati
on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election

THANK YOU FOR COMPLETELY EVADING MY QUESTION.

I asked you whether YOU THINK the popular vote should rule in deciding who becomes President, a point you were so passionate about when arguing against the Electoral College.

Since Lincoln did not get the popular vote, are you saying he shouldn't have become President?


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Friday, December 11, 2020 6:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



So SECOND, as I read your "history" Lincoln actual won the popular vote because no one got more votes than he did. And you've shown no discrepancy between the popular vote (of the entire US) and the electoral college (of the entire US) and the selection for the presidency (of the entire US).

Anything else to add?

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Friday, December 11, 2020 7:51 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THANK YOU FOR COMPLETELY EVADING MY QUESTION.

I asked you whether YOU THINK the popular vote should rule in deciding who becomes President, a point you were so passionate about when arguing against the Electoral College.

Since Lincoln did not get the popular vote, are you saying he shouldn't have become President?

You fucking idiot. He DID win the popular vote. He got more votes than any of the other 3 candidates, you stupid Russian piece of shit.



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Friday, December 11, 2020 7:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So SECOND, as I read your "history" Lincoln actual won the popular vote because no one got more votes than he did. And you've shown no discrepancy between the popular vote (of the entire US) and the electoral college (of the entire US) and the selection for the presidency (of the entire US).

Anything else to add?

Kiki gives us even more proof he's stupid, and a Russian troll piece of shit. ^

The electoral college is a pathetic relic of our racist past. It should have gone away a century ago.

Only the popular vote should determine who's president.


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Friday, December 11, 2020 7:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.

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Friday, December 11, 2020 7:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.

You misspelled "me" and "my," Russian troll.



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Friday, December 11, 2020 7:59 PM

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Michigan Trump Voter Stunned After His Name Shows Up On List Of Allegedly 'Dead' Biden Voters
https://www.comicsands.com/michigan-dead-trump-voter-alive-2649444183.
html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GTAK&utm_source=George+Takei+Newsletters&utm_campaign=851bfb672d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_06_29_05_08_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_2e6b4c049b-851bfb672d-304174341


Republicans' continued attempts to paint the election as fraudulent have hit yet another snag.

This time, the hiccup comes from the state of Michigan, where a very much alive Trump voter appeared on a conservative activist's list of supposed dead people who fraudulently voted for Biden last month.

The voter has understandably been left stunned by the incident.

Trumptards are so stupid, they can't keep their lies straight!



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Friday, December 11, 2020 8:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.

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Friday, December 11, 2020 8:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.

You're just mad you got your ass handed to you again, you dimwitted Russian troll. I can't believe Putin still pays you to lie so poorly.



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Friday, December 11, 2020 8:09 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




They must REALLY be paying you by the volume of your posts, and not by the quality of their content.

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Saturday, December 12, 2020 7:36 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Texas GOP chair floats secession for 'law-abiding states' after Supreme Court defeat

Texas GOP chair Allen West rebuked the high court in a statement, saying that "law-abiding states" should "form a Union" after the decision throwing out the lawsuit from Texas. The South shall rise again.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/529926-texas-gop-chair-appear
s-to-suggest-secession-after-scotus-rejects


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 12, 2020 8:13 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

So SECONDRATE, have you decided whether the popular vote should decide the Presidency?

Have you figured out the contradiction in your own POV, yet?

Lincoln was elected President with less than 40% of the popular vote. In that election, the losers lost because they split their votes between three competing candidates. Before Lincoln was inaugurated, the losers planned to assassinate him, but he evaded the losers. The losers then coalesced around Jefferson Davis as their new President. The Army calling Davis its president killed about a million Americans in retaliation against the election of Lincoln. That Army was defeated by Lincoln's Army. Despite that, the spiteful losers in the election of 1860 had one more killing to go: Abraham Lincoln. That's your history lesson for today, Signym.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Secession_and_inaugurati
on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election

THANK YOU FOR COMPLETELY EVADING MY QUESTION.

I asked you whether YOU THINK the popular vote should rule in deciding who becomes President, a point you were so passionate about when arguing against the Electoral College.

Since Lincoln did not get the popular vote, are you saying he shouldn't have become President?

Signym, I'm not evading so much as I think your questions show you are fucked up in the head, you goddamn Russian or idiot living in California. (I read everything you write and you are one fucked up person, but you don't know it or won't admit it. Sorry I had to give you the bad news.) Nobody got a majority in 1860. The Constitution doesn't allow for run-off elections (a very foolish decision by the Founding Fathers) but it does allow for the President to be selected by the House of Representatives. If a decision couldn't be made by the electoral college (another foolish institution created by the Founding Fathers who weren't as smart as they thought of themselves) then the House would have decided who is President. If the House couldn't decide, too bad for the USA, there will be no President until the House does and no laws can be passed. Some interested facts that the House could not know, but needed to know before making a decision:

Beside Lincoln, of the three competing candidates, two joined the Confederacy to overthrow Lincoln, the Union and, specifically, the House of Representatives. That's something the House would have really needed to know before it picked one of those guys. What about the third one? That was famous Mr Stephen A. Douglas. He only won a single state, Missouri, and died in June 1861. Not that he necessarily would have joined a rebellion, but he didn't live long enough to overthrow Lincoln in a war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election

Stephen Douglas' Position_on_slavery:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_A._Douglas#Position_on_slavery
He felt that discussing slavery as a moral question would place it on a dangerous level of abstraction.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:25 AM

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‘I WON THE ELECTION IN A LANDSLIDE’: Trump continues freakout on Twitter after brutal Supreme Court loss
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337745268591259648

I look forward to Trump and Biden simultaneously being the Presidents for different groups of Americans. Maybe there will be a War Between the Groups, much like the War Between the States, Apr 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865. Why? This is why:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT!!!
7:47 AM · Dec 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337755964339081216



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Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:54 AM

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Frustrated Trump mulls appointing special counsel to probe election, Hunter Biden
Last Updated: Dec. 12, 2020 at 9:20 a.m. ET

The president has expressed disappointment in AG Barr as efforts to overturn election have failed, including Supreme Court refusal of Texas case

www.marketwatch.com/story/frustrated-trump-mulls-appointing-special-co
unsel-to-probe-election-hunter-biden-11607782800


Please, Mr Trump, go do the maximum and order the Bidens and V.P. Kamala Harris arrested. I really want to see how far my local Texas Trump voters will go to support Trump in all the crazy, stupid things he does and says.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Having linked, and read, the Constitution on the nature of USA elections, and understanding that many of the SCOTUS are Constitutionalists, the SCOTUS could have hardly decided any different. The Constitution provides for each state to decide HOW they want to conduct each election. They could have voters throw darts at a dartboard, as far as I can tell.

There is no commitment in the Constitution that REQUIRES one person, one vote, and no commitment in the Constitution that requires non-fraudulent elections. That is up to the state legislatures and governors.

OTOH, that also free the states' electors from the vote, popular, honest, or otherwise, as long as its done according to the rules of the each state's legislature.

If the people of the USA want elections that are NOT fraudulent, they need to take that up with their State constitution, legislators, governors, and state secretaries.

If they want to push for nationally fraud-free votes, they need a Constitutional amendment to clarify that the intent of the vote is to provide for a fraud-free, auditable results.

PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALOTS
COUNTED BY HAND, IN PUBLIC


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Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Having linked, and read, the Constitution on the nature of USA elections, and understanding that many of the SCOTUS are Constitutionalists, the SCOTUS could have hardly decided any different. The Constitution provides for each state to decide HOW they want to conduct each election. They could have voters throw darts at a dartboard, as far as I can tell.

There is no commitment in the Constitution that REQUIRES one person, one vote, and no commitment in the Constitution that requires non-fraudulent elections. That is up to the state legislatures and governors.

OTOH, that also free the states' electors from the vote, popular, honest, or otherwise, as long as its done according to the rules of the each state's legislature.

From 1789 to 1913, when the 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified, senators were elected by state legislatures. Maybe the President will someday be elected by a direct popular election, but until the equivalent of the 17th amendment is passed for President, we will have the half-ass system from the Founding Fathers.
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment17.html

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Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:31 AM

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Trump whines about losing on Twitter after skipping White House Christmas Party
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/trump-whines-about-losing-on-twitter-
after-skipping-white-house-christmas-party/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6093&recip_id=28351&list_id=1


President Donald Trump on Friday suffered a humiliating defeat at the U.S. Supreme Court when his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election were rejected by all nine justices.

Trump had argued it would be a great win for the American people if the Supreme Court overturned the will of the voters.

"If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!

After the defeat, Trump skipped the White House Christmas Party.

But he weighed in on the issue in a sad tweet posted shortly before midnight.

“The Supreme Court really let us down. No Wisdom, No Courage!” Trump said of his efforts to destroy democracy being rebuffed.

Other Republicans have lashed out after the rejection, with Diamond and Silk calling for a military coup and the chair of the Republican Party of Texas suggesting states should secede.
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If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy. - David Frum

Poor babies! LOL!









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Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:34 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, just to be clear that we are in agreement on this, SECOND, just because the SCOTUS decided not to intervene in the election DOES NOT MEAN that the election was fair.

*****

Given the statistical near-impossibilities of the vote (the pause in vote-counting followed by sudden jumps in Biden votes, the up-down ballot discrepancies in the dem vote) TRUMP IN ALL PROBABILITY WON THE ELECTION. Dems in Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, and Madison probably hijacked the election, in coordinated fashion, under the direction of the DNC.

So, NOW WHAT?

There will be no "resistance movement" in the halls of power because the deep state, the globalists, the media, and the tech giants are all behind the transnationalist agenda. The resistance, what there is of it, will be at the popular level and IMHO should be aimed at the 2022 national elections and at the state and city level, organized around social media that bypasses all of those corporate censoring disinformationalists.

ALSO, I believe we will see Biden be driven from office because, again IMHO, that was the plan all along. Hunter Biden will suddenly become an issue, or Joe Biden's health, and he will no longer be the official sockpuppet, somebody else will.

AFA China is concerned ... supposedly they have kompromat on the whole Biden money-siphoning operation. As do the Russians. The transnationals ...they STILL want to make their $$$ in China and other cheap-labor nations. Also, they want their banking operations to extend into China. I don't believe the Chinese will allow western banks access to the Chinese economy, and I suspect that they no longer want to be making goods for Walmart at rock bottom prices because it doesn't do their economy any good: why split most of the profits with Apple?

So the USA transnationalists will be scrounging for other cheap-labor nations and other financial structures to invade.

Not that it will do the average USA worker any good, especially since Biden will opn the doors to immigrants from the south.





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Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, just to be clear that we are in agreement on this, SECOND, just because the SCOTUS decided not to intervene in the election DOES NOT MEAN that the election was fair.



Whatever, Russian troll. You are, and always have been full of shit.



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Saturday, December 12, 2020 12:23 PM

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Trump Orders Space Force to Discover Other Planets with Courts
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-orders-space-for
ce-to-discover-other-planets-with-courts?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewsletter_Borowitz_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Borowitz_121220&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bdf44f92a077c67cd7cb6b2&cndid=55358054&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz


WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a sign that he is not ready to give up his legal challenge to the 2020 election, Donald J. Trump has ordered the United States Space Force to discover other planets that have courts.

With his legal options on this planet dwindling, Trump is placing all of his hopes on identifying another planet that might have intergalactic jurisdiction over Earth.

On the heels of his Space Force announcement, astronomers expressed deep skepticism that a planet with a functioning legal system could be located before the Electoral College casts its votes on Monday.

But, in a sentiment shared by many Republicans, Senator Kelly Loeffler, of Georgia, said that she “totally supports” Trump’s decision to seek justice on another planet. “Let’s let the process play out,” she said.



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Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:57 PM

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A Democratic representative asked Pelosi to 'refuse to seat' any House members who supported Trump's election lawsuits
https://www.businessinsider.com/pascrell-asks-pelosi-exclude-house-mem
bers-supported-election-lawsuits-2020-12?utm_source=reddit.com


"The text of the 14th Amendment expressly forbids Members of Congress from engaging in rebellion against the United States," Pascrell said. "Trying to overturn a democratic election and install a dictator seems like a pretty clear example of that."

He's got a point. Hang 'em high!



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Saturday, December 12, 2020 2:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Thanks for your posts, Signy.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Saturday, December 12, 2020 3:25 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, just to be clear that we are in agreement on this, SECOND, just because the SCOTUS decided not to intervene in the election DOES NOT MEAN that the election was fair.



Whatever, Russian troll. You are, and always have been full of shit.



I love it when REAVERBOT is reduced to calling me a Russian troll. The lower REAVERBOT sinks, the better I must be doing.

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

I love it when REAVERBOT is reduced to calling me a Russian troll. The lower REAVERBOT sinks, the better I must be doing.


You're doing a terrible job, Russian troll.



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Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:00 PM

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CONFIRMED: Dominion voting machines in Georgia were remotely controlled during election... foreign interference now a FACT
https://www.distributednews.com/481696.html

More confirmation has emerged to show that Dominion Voting Systems machines in Georgia were, in fact, connected to the internet and communicating with third parties on election night. Contradicting what Dominion spokesman Michael Steel falsely claimed on Nov. 22, expert witness Col. Phil Waldron told Rudy Giuliani during more recent questioning that Dominion machines were designed with "many access points to the internet." "These machines are connected to the internet," Waldron stated. "Dominion user manual instructs how. Server traffic showed connections." Steel, on the other hand, told Fox News the exact opposite. When asked if a poll worker could use a USB thumb drive to add or remove votes from a candidate, Steel claimed that vote tabulators do not have such access because Dominion machines do not connect to the internet. "It's not physically possible to do what they're describing," he reiterated, adding that an algorithm was not used to alter the "weight" of votes in favor of Joe Biden.
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Overall, we rate Distributed News an extreme right biased Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy website that also publishes pseudoscience. This source is associated with Natural News, which is one of the most discredited sources on the internet.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/distributed-news/




They're just spouting nonsense. Like our Russian trolls do.





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Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:26 PM

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Thanks for your posts, Signy. They are always a happy island of facts and civility in this cesspool where non-stop trolling, libel, and propaganda are the norm.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 5:51 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

I love it when REAVERBOT is reduced to calling me a Russian troll. The lower REAVERBOT sinks, the better I must be doing.


You're doing a terrible job, Russian troll.



He's sunk even further! Now he's calling me a TERRIBLE Rusian troll!

HAHAHAHA!!!



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Sunday, December 13, 2020 7:04 PM

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Congressman Brian Babin, 36th Congressional District of Texas, is Requesting President Trump Order the DOJ to Appoint a Special Counsel

I joined my colleagues in asking President Trump to order the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate the many irregularities that occurred in the November elections. Americans deserve the truth and unfortunately Attorney General Barr has been unwilling to step up.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/12/09/27-house-republicans-demand-spe
cial-counsel-appointed-to-investigate-election-irregularities
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Thanks for your posts, Signy. They are always a happy island of facts and civility in this cesspool where non-stop trolling, libel, and propaganda are the norm. And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

You are truly the epitome of decorum.

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Trump’s GOP lackeys have ‘all drunk the Kool Aid. It just hasn’t killed them yet’

Some Republican leaders delivered a withering assessment of the 126 G.O.P. House members and 18 attorneys general who chose to side with Mr. Trump over the democratic process, by backing a lawsuit that asked the Supreme Court to throw out some 20 million votes in four key states that cemented the president’s loss.

“The act itself by the 126 members of the United States House of Representatives, is an affront to the country,” said Michael Steele, the former chairman of the Republican National Committee. “It’s an offense to the Constitution and it leaves an indelible stain that will be hard for these 126 members to wipe off their political skin for a long time to come.”

With direct buy-in from senior officials like Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and the Republican leader in House, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, it meant that Republican leaders now stand for a new notion: that the final decisions of voters can be challenged without a basis in fact if the results are not to the liking of the losing side, running counter to decades of work by the United States to convince developing nations that peaceful transfers of power are key to any freely elected government’s credibility.

“From a global perspective this certainly looks like many of the cases we’ve seen around the world where an incumbent tries to hold onto power,"
said Michael Abramowitz, president of Freedom House, a Washington-based group that promotes democracy abroad with support from both parties.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/12/12/trumps-gop-lackeys-have-al
l-drunk-the-kool-aid-it-just-hasnt-killed-them-yet
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I was amused by this tweet that is going into history books for The Biggest Lie Of Trump's Life. He can be proud of himself for proving that there are no limits to what some will believe:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!

4:49 PM · Dec 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1338254785666043908

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Monday, December 14, 2020 8:19 AM

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Trump Has Never Believed in Democracy
He wants to wield power without winning it legitimately.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/opinion/donald-trump-election.html

The presidency gave Trump something he always craved but never possessed: constant attention and real, legitimate power. And, once tasted, power is craved forever. Trump has never believed in American democracy. He was never a student of history. He was never really a patriot. Trump wants to operate a dictatorship behind a veil of democracy. He wants to wield power without winning it legitimately. He wants to manipulate his mob and prioritize it above the masses who oppose him. Yes, Trump is attempting a coup, whether or not you want to call it that. But, no matter what you choose to call something, it will still be what it is.
---
Trump has realized that trying to steal the presidency is more lucrative than actually being president, so he won’t stop. We are witnessing one of the greatest grifts in the history of the presidency.




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Monday, December 14, 2020 8:23 AM

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Fake election was the coup.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fake election was the coup.

I see that bookmakers keep taking bets about Trump. He is at 3% chance of winning a second term. 6ix, keep believing that a fake election will end with justice for Trump and Biden in jail. I know Texas Trump voters who believe he will be vindicated and stay for another 4 years. 3% chance is better than nothing:
https://odds.watch/trump-2020

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Monday, December 14, 2020 9:14 AM

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Fake election was the coup.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fake election was the coup.

Funny how Trump can't convince any judges he appointed that the election was stolen. Trump can't even convince his Attorney General that anything was stolen. Barr told a source that he was not “intimidated” by the president. "Barr cannot be intimidated by Trump. This is the real story. None of this matters - it's the deposed king ranting. Irrelevant to the course of justice and to Trump's election loss."
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/bill-barr-t
rump-election-biden-b1772174.html


Judges hearing Trump's cases are disrespecting his certainty he is a winner



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Monday, December 14, 2020 9:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I was amused by this tweet that is going into history books for The Biggest Lie Of Trump's Life. He can be proud of himself for proving that there are no limits to what some will believe:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!

4:49 PM · Dec 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1338254785666043908

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Remember when Trump said that Trump Tower was "wiretapped",and it was derided as "fake news"?Well, except for the archaic term that he used, he was essentally correct.

Remember when Hunter Biden's laptop was derided as "Russian disinformation", and now we find out that EVEN THEN, Biden was the subject of FOUR investigations?

Remember when the media blared that "Russia" had "stolen" the DNC emails, even tho Crowdstrike (the private entity that had exmained their servers) secretly testified to the GOP=controlled Senate months and months before it became a story) that they had NO SUCH EVIDENCE?

The news, the DC swamp, the FIB... they claim that truth is a lies, and lies are truth. Just, yanno, invert what they say and you'll have a clearer picture.

Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.

PEOPLE need to take over government, again. We need a populist uprising (and no, I don't mean with guns.)

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Monday, December 14, 2020 10:43 AM

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... stay crunchy...


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

"Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!

IOWs: "PLEASE CONTINUE TO DONATE TO MY CAMPAIGN!"

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Remember when Trump said that Trump Tower was "wiretapped",and it was derided as "fake news"?Well, except for the archaic term that he used, he was essentally correct.

Remember when Hunter Biden's laptop was derided as "Russian disinformation", and now we find out that EVEN THEN, Biden was the subject of FOUR investigations?



Hillary had 7? 8? that failed - remember those? But whatever - throw his ass in jail if he's guilty. I know - it's not about his GUILT! It's about using him to stain his dad. Gee, not at all obvious.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Remember when the media blared that "Russia" had "stolen" the DNC emails, even tho Crowdstrike (the private entity that had exmained their servers) secretly testified to the GOP=controlled Senate months and months before it became a story) that they had NO SUCH EVIDENCE?

The news, the DC swamp, the FIB... they claim that truth is a lies, and lies are truth. Just, yanno, invert what they say and you'll have a clearer picture.

Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.



Remember when you weren't such a lying troll? I actually can. What happened?

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
PEOPLE need to take over government, again. We need a populist uprising (and no, I don't mean with guns.)



Mark the calendar - SIGNYM ^just called for civil war. They must have re-upped your contract.

Oh, btw - interesting news:

https://bit.ly/2KoQkA8

CISA issues rare emergency directive after suspected Russian hacking campaign

The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an "emergency directive" late Sunday requiring all federal civilian agencies to review their networks and immediately disconnect SolarWinds Orion software products, following a suspected Russian hack on the Treasury and Commerce Department.

Why it matters: It's only the fifth time since 2015 that the Department of Homeland Security has issued such a directive, per AP, underscoring the concerns officials have about an operation that one cybersecurity expert warned could turn out to be "one of the most impactful espionage campaigns on record."

The big picture: News of the hack came less than week after cybersecurity company FireEye revealed that nation-state hackers had penetrated its network and stolen its hacking its tools.

The Washington Post reported that the Russian hacking group APT29, also known as Cozy Bear and believed to have ties to Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), is behind the campaign.
SolarWinds, the company whose software is believed to have been compromised, says it has 300,000 customers worldwide, including "all five branches of the U.S. military, the Pentagon, the State Department, NASA, the National Security Agency, the Department of Justice and the White House," per AP.
What they're saying: "Based on our analysis, we have now identified multiple organizations where we see indications of compromise dating back to the Spring of 2020, and we are in the process of notifying those organizations," FireEye wrote in a blog post.

"Our analysis indicates that these compromises are not self-propagating; each of the attacks require meticulous planning and manual interaction.
Worth noting: President Trump fired the previous director of CISA, Christopher Krebs, last month after Krebs undermined him by calling the U.S. election "the most secure in American history."

Huh

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Monday, December 14, 2020 11:26 AM

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I see comrade sig is still posting unsubstantiated and taken out of context crap. It probably comes from ZHedge. If not then from one of her many other bullshit sources; russia maybe. It shows she knows the post to be lies and she knows if she sources it we'll all know. Sorry comrade, we already know.

Brace yourselves; she'll now post other stories from mainstream media regarding what shes' posted as though they back her claims. No, they won't because what she posted are stories where shes' changed the context to imply something other than what the legit stories report. In her latest claim, what she claims to be relevant "connected" to the original story, is in fact not even thinly related.

Is there anybody here who posts honestly that doesn't know she has done this again and again for years. Shes' certainly been doing this since my arrival.

T



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.

Signym, "Everything that Trump tweeted is true"? Is this tweet true from today?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
“Why did the Swing States stop counting in the middle of the night?”
@MariaBartiromo
Because they waited to find out how many ballots they had to produce in order to steal the Rigged Election. They were so far behind that they needed time, & a fake “water main break”, to recover!
7:57 AM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1338483200046354434

Signym, I tried to verify the truth of this tweet, but the only thing true about it is @MariaBartiromo actually does work at FOX News. As for the rest, it is make believe.
https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo

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Monday, December 14, 2020 12:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.

As usual.



Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.

As usual.

Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)

Signym attached no URL's to back wild claims made, especially this claim: "the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election." Where is Signym's "evidence"? If the Ds and Rs are colluding about who wins which post, that is a hundred thousand elections. There should be plenty of evidence, if Signym was truthful.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 1:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




** MY ** question ** STILL ** is - why are no politicos of either party calling for statistical evaluation of this election?

Or for reform after the Mitofsky report? Yanno CalTech/ MIT has a lot of things they said needed to be done. Not that anybody in government followed up ...

Or after the Bush/ Gore election and the hanging chad fiasco with the suspicious electronic voting machine numbers.

So, let me post, again, what I've been posting all along ...



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

I'm still waiting for them to prove that they are different - and better. I've been waiting for over a decade.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


** MY ** question ** STILL ** is - why are no politicos of either party calling for statistical evaluation of this election?

Or for reform after the Mitofsky report? Yanno CalTech/ MIT has a lot of things they said needed to be done. Not that anybody in government followed up ...

Or after the Bush/ Gore election and the hanging chad fiasco with the suspicious electronic voting machine numbers.

So, let me post, again, what I've been posting all along ...



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

I'm still waiting for them to prove that they are different - and better. I've been waiting for over a decade.

The House on Friday passed a massive voting rights, campaign-finance and ethics reform package — a centerpiece of the new Democratic majority’s agenda. The bill, known as H.R. 1 and dubbed the For the People Act by Democrats, was approved on a party-line 234-193 vote. (That means none of the Republicans voted for it. Mitch McConnell killed this bill in the Senate.)
www.politico.com/story/2019/03/08/house-passes-sweeping-election-refor
m-bill-1212693


The Democrats have tried a million times and the Republicans always kill voting reform: https://www.google.com/search?q=voting+reform+legislation

1kiki, remember this? And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
If the Democrats want better results, they need bring their guns into Congress. Simply exercising the Democrats' 2nd Amendment rights would go a long way toward better government. Mitch McConnell needs to be reminded that Democrats can kill a Republican . . . bill as easily as Mitch kills Democrats' election reform.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 3:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

The House on Friday passed a massive voting rights, campaign-finance and ethics reform package


Sure. Whatever.

Meanwhile - HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT NOT ONE DEMOCRAT* POLITICO HAS EVER BEEN INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO VARIOUS ELECTIONS AND THEIR MANY STATISTICAL ABNORMALITIES? Not 2000, not 2004, and not 2020? NOT ONE.

And not at all interested in what the best minds at MIT/ JPL have to say about the simple, mechanical process of just getting reliable vote counts?



But HEY! when it comes to passing mindless VIRTUE SIGNALLING LEGISLATION (that will never become law, and for which the democrats* will never be held accountable) instead of crafting sturdy problem-solving procedures, DEMOCRATS* ARE ALL OVER IT !!!!




And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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