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Saturday, October 24, 2020 1:50 PM
REAVERFAN
Monday, October 26, 2020 6:48 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, October 26, 2020 11:40 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, October 26, 2020 12:49 PM
THG
Monday, October 26, 2020 7:44 PM
Monday, October 26, 2020 9:21 PM
Tuesday, October 27, 2020 7:39 AM
Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:04 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
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Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump’s 8 Steps Though all these steps were pursued by the Trump Administration, the level of success was variable. And we still don’t know how well they have done on the most important step of all – Step 8. We’re about to find out in a few short days. Step 1: Delegitimize all authoritative sources of information – mainstream media, scientists, economists, historians, other experts. Step 2: Use control of government resources to foment conspiracy theories and generate fake information (including fake data) to delegitimize popular predecessor. Step 3. Use the judiciary and the legislature to criminalize criticism and dissent. Step 4 Stop keeping track of data that would quantify inconvenient facts about climate change, economic inequality, social problems, civil rights problems, gun violence, police brutality, corporate greed, foreign wars, etc. Step 5: Use control of government institutions to revise previous data and generate new false data to shape perceptions of prior dysfunction and current progress. Step 6: Divide the opposition by tangling them in internal feuds on issues such as trade, race, political correctness, Israel, etc. Step 7: Pack the bureaucracy and judiciary as far as possible with compliant functionaries who support the program. Step 8: Use government institutions to ensure single-party electoral dominance for the foreseeable future, thus removing all fear of public accountability. More details about each step at https://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2020/10/trump-trumpism-and-bidens-burden.html
Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:46 AM
Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: #4 is the only one that has any hope of not happening. Those things can still be done by independent people and underground organizations. I would add: Step 9: Control the Internet (which they have been trying to do). Or at least what most people think of as The Internet; The most heavily trafficked sites. It's amusing to me to think we would be heading back to the days when some knuckleheads/people thought the Internet was AOL and that was it. Limited, filtered, "curated."
Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:47 AM
Thursday, October 29, 2020 6:39 AM
Friday, October 30, 2020 8:16 AM
Friday, October 30, 2020 11:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: During his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump — even though he had dubbed himself “the king of debt” — promised to slash the mounting national debt until it was completely eliminated within eight years. Four years on, how’s that going? Not well. The National debt is more than $27 trillion, up from less than $20 trillion when Trump took office.
Friday, October 30, 2020 11:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Why Freedom means something different for conservatives and liberals The political right today is marked by a deep conviction that its freedom stands imperiled everywhere. Social distancing measures and face mask requirements, conservatives argue, impinge upon their personal freedom; baking cakes for gay marriages or providing contraception insurance for employees violates their religious freedom; university safe spaces and political correctness censor their freedom of speech in the classroom; expanding health care undermines their liberty. Each of these ways of thinking about freedom is connected to the idea that the state must be curtailed in order to safeguard individual rights. However, this idea of freedom, argues the political historian Annelien de Dijn in her new book Freedom: An Unruly History, is a relatively recent invention. Seeing a threat to their class interests and property rights, wealthy conservative elites launched an ideological campaign. As an alternative, they invented the idea that political freedom was to be found in protecting individuals by limiting the sphere of government. Annelien de Dijn: My interest in the history of freedom was sparked about a decade ago, when the Obama administration attempted to reform the health care system, which sparked a fierce backlash. Thousands of Americans took to the streets to march against Obamacare, claiming that it posed a mortal danger to freedom. I found that very puzzling. How can you say that expanding health care—a measure supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans—is something that undermines your liberty? More generally, why insist that every attempt by the government to improve the lives of its citizens diminishes their freedom? Where did this individualistic or even nihilistic conception of freedom come from? I think that the questions that originally spurred my research remain just as relevant today as they were a decade ago, when I started writing the book. If the US response to Covid-19 has made anything clear, it’s that this anti-government way of thinking about freedom is still quite prevalent. If you take the long view, it becomes clear that our current way of thinking about freedom—being able to do what you want without state interference—is actually a fairly recent invention. For centuries, people in what we now think of as “the West” identified being free with exercising collective control over government. They had what I call a democratic conception of freedom: A free state was one in which the people ruled itself. To them, the key to preserving political freedom was staving off elite domination. Today we tend to put more faith in countermajoritarian institutions as a way to preserve liberty. We tend to think that our freedoms are best protected by institutions such as the Supreme Court—a council of elders supposedly above politics. That’s because we have come to think that democratic majorities, not elite rule, are the real threat to liberty. This would have been very strange to the ancient Greeks and Romans. They believed that individual rights and liberties were mainly threatened by autocratic kings or arrogant elites. In the 19th century, political thinkers in Europe and the United States began to reject this ancient democratic conception of freedom in favor of a different way of thinking. Freedom, many came to argue, was not a matter of who governed. Instead, what determined whether you were free or not was the extent to which you were governed. The smaller the government, the freer you were—regardless of who was in control. More at https://web.archive.org/web/20201030035232/https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/annelien-de-dijn-freedom-unruly-history-interview/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, October 30, 2020 12:57 PM
Friday, October 30, 2020 1:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: What a grossly one sided look at something. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, October 30, 2020 9:42 PM
Friday, October 30, 2020 9:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: During his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump — even though he had dubbed himself “the king of debt” — promised to slash the mounting national debt until it was completely eliminated within eight years. Four years on, how’s that going? Not well. The National debt is more than $27 trillion, up from less than $20 trillion when Trump took office. A Plandemic will do that. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:25 AM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:20 AM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: The Philosophy That Makes Amy Coney Barrett So Dangerous
Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: The Philosophy That Makes Amy Coney Barrett So Dangerous Just in case you missed it, she was sworn in. You can let it go now.
Saturday, October 31, 2020 9:35 AM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 9:51 AM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: The Philosophy That Makes Amy Coney Barrett So Dangerous Just in case you missed it, she was sworn in. You can let it go now.Is she protected by the Secret Service? Blah, blah, blah..
Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:42 AM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:50 AM
Quote: Quote: Originally posted by second: Quote: Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh good. Second read a book. Does that mean I can expect you to stop giving me shitty comments about my current work situation when you've lost an argument then? Do Right, Be Right. :) No. My advice to you is to kill any boss who fucks you over, steal his money, and don't get caught. You'd be making the world a better place. The author Emily Guendelsberger was earning money and hoping she made the world better by writing about it, but she would have actual done far more good for the world by murdering her bosses. It's kind of like a slave uprising: if you don't kill the slave owner, the slaves will end back in slavery. See the American Civil War. That problem of slavery was solved with cold steel and hot lead fired at slave owners, not by writing books or talking about the hardships of slavery. Slave owners knew they had a good thing for themselves back then and bad bosses know they have a good thing for themselves now and neither bosses nor slave owners will change unless violently forced. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote: Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote: Originally posted by WISHIMAY: When every person that has two brain cells firing has denounced Trump JO just called for his execution. Second is calling for his assassination. Go to dictionary.com and tell me what the definition of denounce is. While you're at it, you should look up the word fascism. Maybe if you knew what it means you'd stop practicing it. Do Right, Be Right. :) Have you ever watched Firefly? The entire cast, the production crew at FOX, the Firefly writers, and the executive producer Joss Whedon were calling for instantaneous executions of people who were annoying or in the way of Mal. Where were the judges for the poor people about to die? Where was the jury? When was the sentencing phase by a compassionate judge? None of that was on Firefly. Mal, Zoe, Jayne and River were always skipping over all those intermediate steps and going directly to execution in less than a minute after the soon to be dead man offended the sensibilities of the crew of Serenity. On the other hand, Trump has had a lot more than a minute to annoy people. It's time to make up your mind about Trump, take careful aim at him, then pull the trigger. Or vote against Trump, whichever action pleases you more. Do it to memorialize Firefly! Just now I remembered that Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He is only an actor playing a part. If anybody kills him, there will be fake blood. Then he will stand up and the camera crew will shoot the next scene. "I Am Donald Trump’s Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I’ve Seen Enough. It’s Time for Impeachment." https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/donald-trump-star-hollywood-walk-of- fame-impeachment.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:07 PM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:58 PM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 4:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: The Philosophy That Makes Amy Coney Barrett So Dangerous Just in case you missed it, she was sworn in. You can let it go now.Is she protected by the Secret Service? Blah, blah, blah.. Yes. We know. You love giving death threats. P.S. This thread has also been archived and added to Second's ever growing list of death threats. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, October 31, 2020 5:56 PM
Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, don't think Amy Coney Barrett can kill Obamacare, and kill people protected by the program, without getting killed herself. 6ix, you should archive that prediction.
Saturday, October 31, 2020 9:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sunday, November 1, 2020 6:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, don't think Amy Coney Barrett can kill Obamacare, and kill people protected by the program, without getting killed herself. 6ix, you should archive that prediction. Done. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 1, 2020 6:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Let that sink in. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 1, 2020 8:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, don't think Amy Coney Barrett can kill Obamacare, and kill people protected by the program, without getting killed herself. 6ix, you should archive that prediction. Done. Do Right, Be Right. :)What is the URL of that saved location, 6ix? Do you realize that the Secret Service is only a phone call away? Call now! Will you be calling the Houston office, closest to me? Or the Indiana office closest to you? But whichever you call, call today! Don't wait. The Secret Service wants to hear from you. Stop a crime before it happens. Call, 6ix. Please call. Be a patriot. As the Secret Service says, "Contact us to: Report Counterfeit Notes, Threats, Fraud, and other... " https://www.secretservice.gov/contact/field-offices/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, November 1, 2020 8:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, don't think Amy Coney Barrett can kill Obamacare, and kill people protected by the program, without getting killed herself. 6ix, you should archive that prediction. Done. Do Right, Be Right. :)What is the URL of that saved location, 6ix? Do you realize that the Secret Service is only a phone call away? Call now! Will you be calling the Houston office, closest to me? Or the Indiana office closest to you? But whichever you call, call today! Don't wait. The Secret Service wants to hear from you. Stop a crime before it happens. Call, 6ix. Please call. Be a patriot. As the Secret Service says, "Contact us to: Report Counterfeit Notes, Threats, Fraud, and other... " https://www.secretservice.gov/contact/field-offices/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly I don't believe in pre-crime. You're innocent until proven guilty. And though I've only just woken up today and haven't actually seen Trump or ACB speak, I'm going to assume that they're still alive and well. I also have no evidence of any bosses that you've killed in your past either. But if something were to happen to either Trump or to ACB, we've got your fanfic porn where you feel that having done the deed to either of them would be very Mal-like and shiny right here. You're a future possible person of interest. Although we all know that you're nothing but a lying pussy, and if something like this were to happen it almost certainly wasn't by you. Meanwhile, keep pretending that you're not afraid that this is archived. Because you did, in fact, delete these posts. They no longer exist on fff.net in their original form. Which makes the fact that you went ahead and did it again by threatening ACB even more hilarious. You just can't help yourself. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 1, 2020 9:03 AM
Sunday, November 1, 2020 9:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You're not getting the link, dumbfuck. I don't give a shit how the Secret Service works either. If you're so concerned that your threat is credible, than I suggest you forward the post you made yesterday about ACB to the Secret Service yourself. Meanwhile, if anything happens to either of them, they'll get the relevant links. Now you have a vested interest in the health and well being of our President and a member of SCOTUS. Have a nice day. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 1, 2020 9:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You're not getting the link, dumbfuck. I don't give a shit how the Secret Service works either. If you're so concerned that your threat is credible, than I suggest you forward the post you made yesterday about ACB to the Secret Service yourself. Meanwhile, if anything happens to either of them, they'll get the relevant links. Now you have a vested interest in the health and well being of our President and a member of SCOTUS. Have a nice day.
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: The Nazi pussy is showing us her full vag. ^
Sunday, November 1, 2020 9:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You're not getting the link, dumbfuck. I don't give a shit how the Secret Service works either. If you're so concerned that your threat is credible, than I suggest you forward the post you made yesterday about ACB to the Secret Service yourself. Meanwhile, if anything happens to either of them, they'll get the relevant links. Now you have a vested interest in the health and well being of our President and a member of SCOTUS. Have a nice day.Here are more reasons to call the Secret Service. I'm surprised nobody murdered Trump for stealing their money. An example from last week: President Donald Trump’s lenders have forgiven around $287 million in debt that he didn’t pay back, and most of it was related to Chicago’s Trump Tower, according to a New York Times report released Tuesday. This is the 1,563rd time Trump has cheated somebody out of money. Why is that fat dumb fucker still alive? https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/10/27/new-york-times-report-president-trump-got-much-of-his-debt-forgiven-after-defaulting-on-loans-for-chicago-trump-tower/ Donald Trump has to pay back an estimated $900 million in the next four years. It he doesn't, maybe somebody will murder him and settle up with his estate. www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/19/trump-will-have-900-million-of-loans-coming-due-in-his-second-term-if-hes-reelected/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, November 1, 2020 11:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I've got you archived talking about how not only could you do it, personally, but you know exactly how to get away with it. I'm fairly confident that the post I have on you would have already seen FEDs knocking on your door had you made it on Facebook instead of fff.net RWED.
Sunday, November 1, 2020 12:03 PM
Monday, November 2, 2020 7:40 AM
Monday, November 2, 2020 7:47 AM
Monday, November 2, 2020 8:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody knows anything about anything. I laugh at people on both sides of this issue because the chances that both of them are completely wrong are just as good as the chances that they're both absolutely right and the two sides worked together in tandem. Or we could just be living in the Matrix, or there really is a drunk flying spaghetti monster that rules over us all. Maybe you should take some of your religious skepticism and apply it to your own cult-like behavior.
Monday, November 2, 2020 11:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: I can't get more blunt than this: My skepticism has kept me rich
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