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Nobody cares.

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Meh. Whatever.

Do Wrong, Be Wrong. :(

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I'm sorry, are you speaking about your buddy JSF?

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I'm sorry, are you speaking about your buddy JSF?

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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

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Hey Kiki.

Tell me that Ted isn't making jokes about the possibility that JSF ain't with us anymore now.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not about JSF?

He fucking said JSF in his post, fucking stupid Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
He ALSO posted about "dedicated, educated professionals". Yep, you sure are a stupid Karen all right.

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Dr. Anthony Fauci says he would "settle" for a Covid-19 vaccine that's 70% to 75% effective, but that this incomplete protection, coupled with the fact that many Americans say they won't get a coronavirus vaccine, makes it "unlikely" that the US will achieve sufficient levels of immunity to quell the outbreak.

With government support, three coronavirus vaccines are expected to be studied in large-scale clinical trials in the next three months.

"The best we've ever done is measles, which is 97 to 98 percent effective," said Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "That would be wonderful if we get there. I don't think we will. I would settle for a 70, 75% effective vaccine."

A CNN poll last month found one-third of Americans said they would not try to get vaccinated against Covid, even if the vaccine is widely available and low cost.

In an interview Friday, CNN asked Fauci whether a vaccine with 70% to 75% efficacy taken by only two-thirds of the population would provide herd immunity to the coronavirus.

"No -- unlikely," he answered.

Herd immunity is when a sufficient proportion of a population is immune to an infectious disease, either through prior illness or vaccination, so that spread from person to person unlikely.

Fauci noted that "there is a general anti-science, anti-authority, anti-vaccine feeling among some people in this country -- an alarmingly large percentage of people, relatively speaking."

He said given the power of the anti-vaccine movement, "we have a lot of work to do" to educate people on the truth about vaccines.

"It's not going to be easy," he said. "Anyone who thinks it will be easy is not facing reality. It's going to be very difficult."

www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/health/fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-contact-tracin
g-aspen/index.html

The Interview where Fauci said it is "unlikely" that the US will achieve sufficient levels of immunity to quell the outbreak.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How's that flu vaccine working out for you?

Making headway on the flu outbreak yet?

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Originally posted by second:

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How's that flu vaccine working out for you?

Making headway on the flu outbreak yet?

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The reason why Trump won't bother to energetically/competently handle Covid-19 is because, just like you, he keeps thinking of it as the flu, the "Kung Flu" in his not clever phrase. China, which take Covid-19 seriously, will keep its death toll lower than the Texas death toll. Texas shifts back and forth between doing nothing as Trump advises and following what epidemiologists advise:

1) As coronavirus spikes in US, China locks down 400,000 people ... over 18 cases
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/asia/china-coronavirus-lockdown-hebei-i
ntl-hnk/index.html

2) What Went Wrong in Texas -- How Texas Governor Greg Abbott squandered his power to get ahead of a coronavirus outbreak.
The governor invited Texans to follow their heart when it came to masks and social distancing. Their hearts led them into a COVID-19. surge. https://slate.com/podcasts/what-next/2020/06/how-texas-got-complacent-
about-the-coronavirus

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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That's his signature.

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He ALSO posted about "dedicated, educated professionals". Yep, you sure are a stupid Karen all right.

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That's his signature. It has been for months. I just imagine a picture of Seth Meyers saying it when I see it, because it is something that a stupid and smug person would say.

I don't see what that has to do with Ted making jokes that JSF is dead.

I said a while back that I was concerned about that after he dropped completely off the board without a word when the stock market crashed. Since then, Ted has brought up JSF specifically to me on no less than half a dozen times, always quipping about it.

Stop being a prideful Karen and letting your imbalanced emotions cloud your brain. You've been acting stupid and irrational for two months now, and I know you're not stupid.

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So, I'll ask again. Heard from you buddy? Are you still trying to contact JSF? If not, what do you think has happened?

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Also, in China, they will force you to get vaccinated at gunpoint.

If you cheer-lead that, please get the fuck out of my country. Like immediately.

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Maybe he's insinuating you're JSF?

Anyway, JSF was having connection/ logon problems. So I thought JSF was going to his local library to use the internet, and maybe even to use their computers. If his local library is still shut down, that may be why he's not here.

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EU bans United States travelers from entering Europe.

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Welcome back, JSF.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Jack will you never learn? JSF is another of Kiki's personalities.

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EU bans United States travelers from entering Europe.

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Want me to dig up where you called Trump racist for trying to do the same thing early on in the discussion, Ted?

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Yep, because I've never said that. I'll go as far as to say it's 100% you're just lying again. Prove me wrong. Until then I'll go back to ignoring you.

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Yep, because I've never said that. I'll go as far as to say it's 100% you're just lying again.

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Welcome back, JSF.

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Jack will you never learn? JSF is another of Kiki's personalities.

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From 16 March:

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Not sure why this COVID-19 scare has you willing to go full Government Control over everything.

I suppose everyone has their price and they found yours.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I expect this is nothing new for her. I expect she has encouraged full Government Control at every opportunity, and every turn. More Government control. Bigger Government. Expand Government. Government good, honest working folk bad. She has been a Democrat for a very long time, been a devout follower of all required facets of the Democrat religion, and has chosen to spend her life in a Democrat hellhole. No need to ride anybody right now, this is what they have believed all of their lives.

As the DNC (Does Not Care) party mantra goes, never let a good crisis go to waste - get more Government Control out of it, More Government funding, Bigger Government, more expansive Government.



As for Nationalized Health Care, Universal Health Care, Government Health Care, etc - this is what the vaunted Italian system is, and they have 1/3 o the ICU beds per capita as the U.S. does. Their Death Panels are overwhelmed with decisions of who to kill and who to treat. Their individual hospitals are overwhelmed with death decisions of who to kill or let die, every floor of these hospitals is overwhelmed with who to kill, and each doctor or specialist is overwhelmed with decisions of who to kill - socialized Health Care is the Utopian model. They also mentioned that some specific hospitals in their nationalized system (like Lombardy) are even more better funded and equipped than other hospitals in the same system - where everything is equal.

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Just for the record I have not once, NOT ONCE ! stated anything positive about any government control anywhere to contain coronavirus.

This is just jerkwad Kevin making shit up as usual, and you, being the slackjawed sidekick you are, going along with it. If either of you had any trace of honor or honesty left in you, you'd be just a little bit ashamed of colluding together to lie so egregiously. But you aren't.

Just for the record ...

... you are both lying sack-of-shit raw oozing...


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Here we have a post from 16 March. In it, kiki includes a quote of a post of mine from 16 March, which was the last day I was able to post until this week. I had intended to reply right away, but could not.

I think kiki had every reason and expectation to reply to me in this way.

I must apologize for my post and it's contents. I had not realized it was inaccurate. I had truly thought that I had viewed posts from kiki which reflected the things I said, and I thought I was merely pointing them out.

I had thought as well that kiki did believe the concept which I had posted, and had not recalled any posts of hers which conflicted with what I had thought about her views.
I will assume that what she has stated in her reply is factual, and accurate.

I am sorry for the confusion. As well as my long overdue reply.

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From sledgehammer to scalpel

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Who Says It’s Not Safe to Travel to China?

Sadly, one doesn’t have to look far for evidence of these top-down decisions morphing into outright racism within the general population, a trend that has a long history in the narrative of outbreaks such as this one.

Coronavirus shares something in common with other kinds of civil disruption, natural disasters or emergencies that affect localized travel industries: Its destructive power lies not in the actual risk but in the perception of that risk. Numerous experts have said that the majority of people who contract coronavirus will experience it as a respiratory infection they will fully recover from. But the extreme reactions — the canceling of flights, closing of borders and level-four travel warnings — seem more appropriate for something much worse.

With the rhetoric surrounding coronavirus, however, it appears the astonishing growth of the Chinese travel market in the past 15 years did little to rid the industry of the impulse to treat Chinese travelers as “others” in the face of doubt and uncertainty. Canceling flights, cruises and locking down borders when it’s not advised by international agencies will be not only an act of economic self-harm but also a wasted opportunity to learn from the mistakes of the past.

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The coronavirus exposes the history of racism and “cleanliness”

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While panic about a sudden, deadly virus is to be expected, some fears — especially in North America and the West — have been based on something other than health. The panic has exposed a deep-seated xenophobia, and with it, a symptom of its own has surfaced: hostility toward East Asian people.

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As the coronavirus spreads, fear is fueling racism and xenophobia

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Toronto Mayor John Tory also spoke out this week about the coronavirus panic. "Standing with our Chinese community against stigmatization and discrimination," he said. "We must not allow fear to triumph over our values as a city."

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An online petition signed by parents in one school district in Ontario, Canada, asked the school board to request parents whose children or whose families have recently returned from China “to stay at home and keep isolated for a minimum of 17 days for the purpose of self-quarantine.”

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No masks. Not going to happen.

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America’s coronavirus rate is on the rise, racing into uncharted territory even as Europe, Canada, and Japan hold new case rates to about 100 per million residents, or under. What we’re experiencing isn’t an inevitability of the disease, but a staggering failure of policy and public health compliance.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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BUT !! .. back to the OP:
Global coronavirus cases surge past 80,000 as new outbreak clusters emerge

According to the CDC, both Italy and Iran are experiencing “sustained community spread of respiratory illness (COVID-19) caused by the novel coronavirus.”

The United States has raised its travel advisories for South Korea and Japan, warning about "sustained community spread" ...

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1kiki, if you were not such a panicky troll you'd know that so far (updated Feb. 19), the new coronavirus, dubbed COVID-19, has led to more than 75,000 illnesses and 2,000 deaths, primarily in mainland China. But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza. In the U.S. alone, the flu has already caused an estimated 26 million illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

On a personal note: I have no allergies, I take no medicines, other than an annual flu shot and the two pneumonia vaccines and I have not been sick even once in the 21st Century. I also passed my immunity to disease onto my children and grandchildren. It follows that I am not a panicky troll like 1kiki is about coronavirus.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I thought this was an interesting post by Second from February 24th while looking for Ted's comments on Trump's racist travel bans that CNN and Vox and MSNBC and MotherJones among others were all calling racist before The Coomph became a thing here.


Especially funny now since Second wants an authoritarian mandate requiring everyone to wear a mask outside.

He's gone full blown Karen in a few months it seems.


Maybe you should apologize to Kiki now, Second, since you both seem to share the same zipcode in Karenville in July.

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NEW YORK -- More than 4,500 recovering coronavirus patients were sent to New York’s already vulnerable nursing homes under a controversial state directive that was ultimately scrapped amid criticisms it was accelerating the nation’s deadliest outbreaks, according to a count by The Associated Press.

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No ... not really. Not anymore than N Italy, or the care homes of GB or Sweden, or the particular hard-hit regions of Spain.

To show cause and effect, you need to show that deaths in nursing homes in NYC went up only AFTER COVID-19 patients were moved in, and ONLY in those nursing homes that had COIVD-19 patients. And you need to show that those patients were still positive for COVID-19. And to be really persnickety, you need to demonstrate that the particular strain of COVID-19 that killed nursing home patients AFTER new, positive-testing COVID-19 patients were moved in was identical to the strain of those new, positive-testing COVID-19 patients.

What we know - or rather, what * I * know since I follow the facts - is that however named (nursing homes, care homes, long-term facilities, and just plain family residences etc), and wherever they occur on the globe - Washington State, N Italy, Sweden, or NYC - the very elderly and those with multiple medical pre-existing conditions - are most at risk of death compared to anyone else.

And, btw there is no cause-and-effect. 'Nursing home' patients in NYC and coupled populations were dying on the front-lines of infection, before anyone else.

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