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Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:00 PM

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BRUSSELS — Russia warned Finland and Sweden on Thursday that if they join NATO, Moscow will reinforce the Baltic Sea region, including with nuclear weapons.
The threat came a day after Finnish officials suggested that their country could request to join the 30-member military alliance within weeks and as Sweden mulled making a similar move.
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Finland moves closer to joining NATO
Helsinki and Stockholm are officially nonaligned militarily, but they are reconsidering their status in light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine — leading to escalated warnings from Russia.
Dmitry Medvedev, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin who serves as deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, said Thursday that NATO expansion would lead Moscow to strengthen air, land and naval forces to “balance” military capability in the region.
“If Sweden and Finland join NATO, the length of the land borders of the alliance with the Russian Federation will more than double. Naturally, these boundaries will have to be strengthened,” he wrote on Telegram.

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Putin wants to "win" by May 9. What will count as a "win" for Putin is unclear.

Officials in the US and Ukraine believe that Putin wants to declare a battlefield victory by May 9, the 77th anniversary of the Soviet Union’s defeat of Nazi Germany. Celebrated as Victory Day in Russia every year, the date is marked by a grand military parade in Moscow. What more spectacular way to celebrate than nuclear fireworks over Kyiv? Russia Threatens to Strike Kyiv ‘Command Centers’ https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/14/russia-threatens-to-strike-k
yiv-command-centers-over-cross-border-attacks-a77349


Haste to meet the May 9 deadline can make for “a military disaster” for Russia, as an unnamed Western official told AFP, but it can also spur Russia into even more short-term brutality. The new Russian commander in Ukraine, Alexander Dvornikov, “has a résumé that includes brutality against civilians in other theaters—in Syria,” Jake Sullivan, the US national security advisor, told CNN on Apr. 10. “We can expect more of the same.”

https://qz.com/2154947/why-russia-wants-to-win-its-war-against-ukraine
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As Russian President Vladimir Putin readies a new offensive in his stalled war with Ukraine, strategists still talk of some form of Ukraine’s “Finlandization”—a kind of cowed neutrality—as a possible negotiated solution. But Finland itself may be about to tilt the balance dramatically the other way.

For Russia — which, for most of the past century, has pressured Finland into taking a nonthreatening posture — no outcome could be more devastating, except perhaps the very defeat in Ukraine Putin is now trying to avoid, experts said. Helsinki sits less than 200 miles from Putin’s hometown of St. Petersburg, and Finland’s NATO membership would deliver “poetic justice” to him if this whole conflict “allegedly was about preventing Ukraine from joining NATO and shutting NATO’s open-door policy,” Monaghan said.

“It pushes him further into a corner,” said James Dobbins, a former senior U.S. diplomat now at the Rand Corporation. “If he wins in Ukraine but loses Finland, he comes out of this without having gained much. If he loses both, which is more likely, then he’s compounded his problem and the sort of nightmare scenario of an overriding NATO right on Russia’s border.” Finland’s 830-mile border with Russia would double NATO’s border against Moscow, amounting to the longest potential front between the European Union and Russia. “It’s a new problem not just in a military sense but in a cultural and economic sense,” Dobbins said.

Provoking the “self-encirclement” of his country is a catastrophic strategic error, wrote Aaron Friedberg, a former senior U.S. official and scholar at Princeton University, in an email. The entry of Finland and Sweden into NATO “would be at least as important as the shifts in Germany and maybe more so,” Friedberg wrote, referring to Berlin’s new willingness to arm up against Russia.

“Finland and Sweden won’t just be free riders, but will add materially to NATO’s combat power,” he wrote, adding that these decisions are very unlikely to be reversed. “They will mark a permanent change — one that the Russians have tried for years to prevent.”

If it joins NATO, Finland could also opt to go the way of Norway, which—although it was a founding member of NATO—has sought to placate Moscow by not allowing foreign military bases and nuclear weapons as well as placing limitations on NATO exercises. Even so, Norway has begun taking part in NATO defense measures to a much greater degree in recent years.

A senior Finnish official told Foreign Policy that the “Norway model” was being considered. Finland, whose long history in standing off Moscow’s aggression includes its successful defense against a Soviet invasion during World War II, has seen to its own defense for decades, including compulsory conscription.

“We’re not in desperate need of foreign bases because we have our own,” said the Finnish official, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Our military is one of the strongest in Europe in numbers and weapons.” Although Finland’s military is smaller than major NATO nations—such as Britain, France, and Germany—its longtime lone preparedness against Russian aggression has made it one of the most formidable in terms of artillery firepower, airspace surveillance, and cyber and missile readiness. The Finnish military can “swiftly mobilize” 280,000 troops, the official said, “with a maximum of 900,000.” Finland, despite having a population of 5.6 million people that is dwarfed by Germany, even possesses more battle tanks than Berlin. It also deploys an air force of 64 F-18s armed with highly sophisticated U.S.-supplied “smart” missiles and has ordered 64 more new F-35s, with deliveries scheduled to start in 2026, according to Finland’s official figures.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/13/finland-sweden-nato-membership-ru
ssia-war
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For the fifth year in a row, Finland is rated the happiest country in the world and would be happy to make Russia the most miserable.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/worlds-happiest-countries-2022-well
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Friday, April 15, 2022 6:41 AM

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In the movie Patton he says he only hopes his troop do not lose their fear of him. We need the Russian people to become less fearful of removing Putin one way or the other, and more fearful of letting him continue on.

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In the movie Patton he says he only hopes his troop do not lose their fear of him. We need the Russian people to become less fearful of removing Putin one way or the other, and more fearful of letting him continue on.

Why?




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Why?

Same reason as the Confederacy needed a change of leadership because the "leaders" wanted a war. The leaders lead them into poverty that lasted from 1861 all the way until today. The ex-Confederate states, and the Border States, are the poorest, when once they were the richest. Belligerent leaders cause poverty, even in a fertile land.

If Putin gets in a hurry to achieve his arbitrary deadline of May 9, the 77th anniversary of the Soviet Union’s defeat of Nazi Germany, and drops a suitcase nuke on Kyiv to kill Volodymyr Zelenskyy, decapitating Ukraine's government, Putin will be shoving Russia into poverty that will last for a century.

Border states (American Civil War)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_states_(American_Civil_War)

Suitcase nuclear device
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuclear_device#Soviet_Union_and
_Russia


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"Given the potential desperation of President Putin and the Russian leadership, given the setbacks that they've faced so far, militarily, none of us can take lightly the threat posed by a potential resort to tactical nuclear weapons or low-yield nuclear weapons," CIA Director William Burns said.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nuclear-weapons-burns-cia/31804539.html

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Ret. general discusses CIA chief's warning about nuclear weapons

CIA Director William Burns warned Russia may use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Retired Brigadier General Mark Kimmett discusses the differences between artillery shells and tactical nuclear weapons.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ret-general-discusses-cia-chief-s
-warning-about-nuclear-weapons/vi-AAWfyFV


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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN Friday that “all of the countries of the world” should be prepared for the possibility that Russian President Vladimir Putin could use tactical nuclear weapons in his war on Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/tapper-zelensky-interview-cnnt
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Friday, April 15, 2022 11:21 PM

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Russia keeps threatening with nukes


No. They don't.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN Friday that “all of the countries of the world” should be prepared for the possibility that Russian President Vladimir Putin could use tactical nuclear weapons in his war on Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/tapper-zelensky-interview-cnnt
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I can't wait to hear SIGGY's Russian pretzel logic excusing Putin's use of a tactical suitcase nuke. "The US forced them!"
She can live with thousands of executions of innocent women and children, the razing of entire cities, the silencing of free speech, so a nuke? No problem.
You have to wonder who's side she and Putin are on at some point. So much destruction, now and long into the future, is being done to Russia by Putin's actions. Crazy, effed up thinking.

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I can't wait to hear SIGGY's Russian pretzel logic excusing Putin's use of a tactical suitcase nuke. "The US forced them!"
She can live with thousands of executions of innocent women and children, the razing of entire cities, the silencing of free speech, so a nuke? No problem.
You have to wonder who's side she and Putin are on at some point. So much destruction, now and long into the future, is being done to Russia by Putin's actions. Crazy, effed up thinking.

I already know how Russia will handle nuking Kyiv -- Russia will firmly claim that Ukraine did not keep its treaty obligation to remove all nukes from Ukraine. Unfortunately, there were accidental explosions in the storage facilities that just happened to be beneath the most important government buildings in Kyiv. Russia had nothing to do with these explosions and to say otherwise is to slander the great nation of Russia.

See how easy it is to turn blame away from Russia and place it where it belongs -- on the foolish Nazis in Ukraine who would store atom bombs underneath their own Capital.

This will be Signym's contribution to confusing which nation nuked Kyiv: "You know it is logically impossible to prove a negative."

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Saturday, April 16, 2022 10:04 AM

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There isn't going to be any nukes, Karen.

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There isn't going to be any nukes, Karen.

Putin’s gambit: To kill two Presidents, Biden and Zelenskyy, with one nuke

In war, assassination of heads of state has been exceedingly rare. Winston Churchill reportedly believed that after the U.S. entered World War II and the battle had reversed, killing Hitler was a bad idea. The fuhrer was the Allies’ best weapon in that his so-called genius had turned to gotterdammerung. Killing Hitler might have led to a successor who sought peace and thus derail the aim of unconditional surrender.

The most successful example in World War II of a directed assassination against a major leader was the plan to intercept and shoot down the aircraft carrying Japan’s senior admiral and the architect of Pearl Harbor, Isokuro Yamamoto, in 1943 over the South Pacific. The plan worked perfectly as envisaged by the U.S. Pacific Fleet commander, Admiral Chester Nimitz.

From Putin’s perspective, clearly Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is a prime target. If Zelensky were killed, who would replace him? And would a successor have the same charisma to rally the nation and the West? And if President Biden were also in Kyiv, would that not raise the ante?

Obviously, any visit by an American dignitary would be wrapped in the utmost secrecy and security. But suppose that Russian intelligence assessed that there was a probability of a Biden visit at a certain time and date. Given the huge losses Russian forces have suffered and the Moskva debacle, how might former KGB Lt. Col. Putin evaluate his options?

Unlike America’s SEAL Team Six that dispatched Osama bin Laden in 2011, Putin does not have that option. Hence, the only certain, or near certain, means to ensure elimination of the presidents could be through a nuclear attack obliterating Kyiv and killing possibly hundreds of thousands of people. In Putin’s mind, could such a barbarically stunning act so paralyze any U.S. and NATO response and force a victory in Ukraine, however defined and regardless of whether Biden were there?

Dangerous in the extreme, such a decision could provoke a thermonuclear war. One of the more frightening aspects of this ghastly invasion is that this scenario is no longer confined to fiction or Hollywood action films. And a further nagging problem for President Biden is that if he does not go to Kyiv and there was serious speculation he might, clearly his adversaries and critics would challenge his courage.

Harlan Ullman, Ph.D, is senior adviser at Washington, D.C.’s Atlantic Council and the primary author of “shock and awe.” His latest book is, “The Fifth Horseman and the New MAD: How Massive Attacks of Disruption Became the Looming Existential Danger to a Divided Nation and the World at Large.”

More at https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3270535-putins-gambit-to-kil
l-a-president
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Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has urged US president Joe Biden to visit Ukraine during an extended interview with CNN broadcast on Sunday.

The Ukrainian president also reiterated fears that Russian forces could deploy tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Zelenskiy failed to note that the best day for Russia to nuke Kyiv is a day Biden visits, killing two Presidents with one nuke, decapitating NATO and Ukraine at the same instant.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/17/zelenskiy-cnn-interview-
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Monday, April 18, 2022 9:39 AM

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Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen.

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Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen.

The way the USA makes sure Putin doesn't is to kill Putin, not take him to Court. But even making Putin uncomfortable about his survival might be enough to deter him without actually sending 007 to Moscow. See the latest James Bond movie, No Time to Die, for the super secret mechanism to kill Putin. The whole movie revolved around stolen technology to build nano-bots that could kill Putin, or somebody like him, without needing to nuke a city to assassinate Putin. It just so happens that nano-bots are even more dangerous to mankind's survival than 10,000 nukes, so it was a very bad idea to develop the technology.

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Monday, April 18, 2022 10:19 AM

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Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen.

P.S. Read Jane Hawk. James Bond is for idiots.

Who knows? You might even have an intimate relationship with nanobots yourself right now, mudblood.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN Friday that “all of the countries of the world” should be prepared for the possibility that Russian President Vladimir Putin could use tactical nuclear weapons in his war on Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/tapper-zelensky-interview-cnnt
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I can't wait to hear SIGGY's Russian pretzel logic excusing Putin's use of a tactical suitcase nuke. "The US forced them!"
She can live with thousands of executions of innocent women and children, the razing of entire cities, the silencing of free speech, so a nuke? No problem.
You have to wonder who's side she and Putin are on at some point. So much destruction, now and long into the future, is being done to Russia by Putin's actions. Crazy, effed up thinking.





And you know she will make excuses for Putin doing that. She already has. If Putin does use nukes, it is additional proof that even with overwhelming numbers of weapons and troops, he cannot win against a much smaller and more capable fighting force. The Russian army is a joke, and the world has witnessed this. As much as he would like, no way Putin can put the Jennie back in the bottle.

Told you so comrades’ signym and kiki, told you so.

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Monday, April 18, 2022 9:34 PM

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You didn't tell anybody anything of importance, Ted. You never have.

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Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen.

P.S. Read Jane Hawk. James Bond is for idiots.

Who knows? You might even have an intimate relationship with nanobots yourself right now, mudblood.

For your anti-vaccine argument, the human body contains trillions of microorganisms — outnumbering human cells by 10 to 1. Because of their small size, however, microorganisms make up only about 1 to 3 percent of the body's mass.

6ix, the nanobots are already here.

For your anti-nuke argument, upgrading the country’s nuclear arsenal remains a priority for the Kremlin. Kartapolov said 49 billion roubles will be allocated for the nuclear armed complex on an annual basis from 2022-2023. The figure for 2024 will be about 56 billion roubles.

6ix, Putin wouldn't spend that money for something that he can't use because he is a peace-loving man spending nothing on nukes.

Russian nuclear weapons stand out in defense budget request
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2021/11/01/russian-nuclear-w
eapons-stand-out-in-defense-budget-request
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NIH Human Microbiome Project
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-human-microbiome-pro
ject-defines-normal-bacterial-makeup-body


Revised Estimates for the Number of Human and Bacteria Cells in the Body
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4991899/

“So to our 30 trillion human cells, we have on average about 39 trillion microbial cells. So by that measure, we’re only about 43% human,” said Rob Knight, director of the University of California San Diego Center for Microbiome Innovation and professor of pediatrics and computer science and engineering.
https://www.voanews.com/a/research-estimates-we-are-only-about-43-perc
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Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen.

P.S. Read Jane Hawk. James Bond is for idiots.

Who knows? You might even have an intimate relationship with nanobots yourself right now, mudblood.

For your anti-vaccine argument



Yes...

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, the human body contains trillions of microorganisms — outnumbering human cells by 10 to 1. Because of their small size, however, microorganisms make up only about 1 to 3 percent of the body's mass.


So what?

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6ix, the nanobots are already here.


I know. And they can be injected in your blood with a hypodermic needle.

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For your anti-nuke argument



I didn't make an anti-nuke argument.



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For your anti-nuke argument



I didn't make an anti-nuke argument.

I'll quote you: "Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen." I'm sure nukes are for killing, either deliberately or by negligent homicide. For an example from the USA:

460,000 Premature Deaths: The Horror That Was Nuclear Weapons Testing
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/460000-premature-deaths-horror-
was-nuclear-weapons-testing-69512


Russia has killed a few, too, and there is no reason to be confident Putin will not use nukes in Ukraine. The Soviet Union's Nuclear Testing Programme
https://www.ctbto.org/nuclear-testing/the-effects-of-nuclear-testing/t
he-soviet-unionsnuclear-testing-programme
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6ix, ask yourself what the world will do if Putin does nuke Kyiv? Just one little nuke to kill Zelenskyy and decapitate Ukraine's government. The most likely action is more of what the world has already done to Russia. Doing the same is not much of a deterrent. The world won't invade Russia if Putin nukes Kyiv and the world won't nuke Moscow, either. Nuking Kyiv doesn't seem like a bright idea, but then attempting to capture Kyiv didn't seem bright, either.

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For your anti-nuke argument



I didn't make an anti-nuke argument.

I'll quote you: "Nobody is nuking anybody, Karen."



Nope. Still not an anti-nuke argument.

I'm pro-Nuke. I'm pro-mutually assured destruction.


Putin isn't going to use nukes because Putin isn't what you think he is. If he has actually threatened their use, and in a world of deep-fakes and lying news I'm never going to concede that, he's just whipping out his dick and reminding the world that he's got them.

The only people I'm worried about having Nukes in our modern day are Muslim extremists who genuinely believe that when they kill people in the name of their "God" that they will be rewarded on the other side for it. Especially the ones that don't care if they die in the process. Fortunately for us, I don't believe that any of the "leaders" in the Middle-East actually believe that shit, so it's probably not very dangerous in their hands. "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes", and all of that...

But don't let it fall into the hands of the simple minded idiots that you're controlling through religion in the area that believe that 72 underage virgins are just up in the clouds waiting to open their legs for them if they set one off from a suitcase in the middle of town square.


Nukes won't be part of this equation, Karen.


But don't let me stop you from hiding out in a bunker the rest of your life with your fake cats and your fake wife and fake daughters.

Preferably one without internet access.



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I'm pro-Nuke. I'm pro-mutually assured destruction.


Putin isn't going to use nukes because Putin isn't what you think he is. If he has actually threatened their use, and in a world of deep-fakes and lying news I'm never going to concede that, he's just whipping out his dick and reminding the world that he's got them.

The only people I'm worried about having Nukes in our modern day are Muslim extremists who genuinely believe that when they kill people in the name of their "God" that they will be rewarded on the other side for it. Especially the ones that don't care if they die in the process. Fortunately for us, I don't believe that any of the "leaders" in the Middle-East actually believe that shit, so it's probably not very dangerous in their hands. But don't let it fall into the hands of the simple minded idiots in the area that believe that 72 underage virgins are just up in the clouds waiting to open their legs for them if they set one off from a suitcase.


Nukes won't be part of this equation, Karen.


But don't let me stop you from hiding out in a bunker the rest of your life with your fake cats and your fake wife and fake daughters.

Preferably one without internet access.

I'm saving your reply because you are so completely crazy that it makes me laugh. But most of what I see the lower class poor white trash say and do is funny. Maybe there should be a TV show called "Jackasses for Real" about all the stupid things Trump voters say and do in life before they die broke and prematurely.

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Go ahead and save it, Arthur.

I'm not the one who goes back and deletes posts. That would be you.

Fortunately, I have your greatest hits archived, and a very long list of rather self-incriminating things you've said here in the past and tried and failed to delete after the fact.



And keep telling yourself I'm poor white trash dude. I haven't worked since Summer of 2019 and I'm not worried about where my next meal is coming from.




I've got work to do. I'll leave your lazy, worthless ass to worry about all the things that you don't need to worry about and wouldn't have any power to do anything about even if you did all day long.


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6ix, ask yourself what ... if Putin does nuke Kyiv?

Oh Jeez, the stupidity of your posts.

It's not enough that you hyperventilate about what tsars did 200 years ago, misquote Putin, "mind-read" to concoct false motives, and post dozens of other stupidities, you're now frothing "WHAT IF" about stuff that'll never happen???

Don't we have enough REAL problems to worry about without getting caught up in your irrelevant fantasies?

Personally, I'm more worried that we have a senile sockpuppet for President who's scripted by warhawks as out of touch with reality as you are. That we have an inflation problem on our hands and no production with which to tamp it down, that we're up to our ears in debt, that we're taking in millions of illegal aliens, and that our society is riven by DNC droids who can only win by pitting people against each other.

I'm glad I'm not participating much with your stupidity, SECOND.

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6ix, ask yourself what ... if Putin does nuke Kyiv?

Oh Jeez, the stupidity of your posts.

It's not enough that you hyperventilate about what tsars did 200 years ago, misquote Putin, "mind-read" to concoct false motives, and post dozens of other stupidities, you're now frothing "WHAT IF" about stuff that'll never happen???

Don't we have enough REAL problems to worry about without getting caught up in your irrelevant fantasies?

Personally, I'm more worried that we have a senile sockpuppet for President who's scripted by warhawks as out of touch with reality as you are. That we have an inflation problem on our hands and no production with which to tamp it down, that we're up to our ears in debt, that we're taking in millions of illegal aliens, and that our society is riven by DNC droids who can only win by pitting people against each other.

I'm glad I'm not participating much with your stupidity, SECOND.

Russian media watchdog Roskomnadzor has ordered media across the country to only publish information provided by official sources. It also forbids describing the actions as an invasion or a war, instead insisting they are called "special military operations."
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-military-false-news/31737627.html

Signym, Russia has a history that goes back to 862. Unless there has been some kind of magic that has made Russians in 2022 completely different people, their characteristics had been set for a very long time. Putin, for example, has a long history, none of which looks like he is the kind of man who wouldn't murder President Zelenskyy by nuking Kyiv. Even recently, like today, Putin is "Denazifying" Ukraine by killing women and children. I'll give you a hint -- that is not how Denazification is done, Signym. What Putin is doing is straight forward conquest, but he won't even call it a war. A Russian calling it a war will be jailed under a new law passed this year.

A reminder of Russian character: 100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dea
d-1510011810


Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917
Conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.

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So,Russian behavior is genetic?

That's raciss.

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So,Russian behavior is genetic?

That's raciss.

Killing 100,000,000 people in 100 years is cultural, not genetic. Did Russian culture denounce the killings when the calendar moved forward from 1999 to 2000? No. The Russians denied everything, everywhere, all the time. One small Russian nuke exploding in Kyiv would be just one more little thing to deny.

100 Million Dead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dea
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Russian war crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_war_crimes

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Seriously, Second. Go live in a fucking bunker and bury your opinions along with yourself. The surface world will be more than fine without you.

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Seriously, Second. Go live in a fucking bunker and bury your opinions along with yourself. The surface world will be more than fine without you.

I'm guessing that you misunderstood Putin when he said Russia would nuke any nation that interfered with his plans. He hasn't nuked, but maybe he will. He is certainly spending the money on nukes: 49 billion roubles will be allocated for the nuclear arms on an annual basis from 2022-2023. The figure for 2024 will be about 56 billion roubles.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2021/11/01/russian-nuclear-w
eapons-stand-out-in-defense-budget-request
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Putin Threatens to Nuke the World
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-threatens-nuke-world-opinion-1685241

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You are a fucking idiot.



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You are a fucking idiot.

Today Putin said he'd nuke the USA if he loses in Ukraine. Signym would say Putin didn't, but he did in way that he could take back, or claim he was misunderstood, without admitting he had made a death threat.

Russia's defense ministry on Wednesday announced it held a test launch of a nuclear-capable, intercontinental ballistic missile. Russian President Vladimir Putin praised the weapon—dubbed the Sarmat—and said it would force other countries to "think twice."

The test occurred at 3:12 p.m. Moscow time from a silo launcher at the Plesetsk state test cosmodrome in the Arkhangelsk region, according to Russian officials. The Kremlin reported that Putin watched the launch via videoconference. Afterwards, he released a statement in which he congratulated Russia's defense ministry.

The launch took place as Russia continues its military attacks in Ukraine, which has caused tension between Putin and other world leaders. On March 23, The New York Times reported that the White House put together a team of national security officials to draft up responses should Putin resort to using any weapons of mass destruction, including those from Russia's nuclear arsenal, in Ukraine.

"This is a big, momentous event in the development of advanced weapons systems for the Russian Army," Putin said in his statement about the Sarmat's reportedly successful test. "The new complex has the highest tactical and technical characteristics and is capable of overcoming all modern means of anti-missile defense. It has no analogues in the world and will not have any for a long time to come."

In televised remarks later on Wednesday, Putin said, "This truly unique weapon will force all who are trying to threaten our country in the heat of frenzied, aggressive rhetoric to think twice," The New York Times reported.

A 2020 report from the Atlantic Council described the Sarmat as a nuclear-capable "heavy" intercontinental ballistic missile.

"The Sarmat possesses a greater throw-weight, faster speeds, and improved survivability compared to its predecessor. It is slated to replace the Voevoda, known more commonly by its NATO reporting name, SS-18 Satan," the report stated.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-sarmat-missile-test-vladimir-putin-169
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You are a fucking idiot.

Today Putin said he'd nuke the USA if he loses in Ukraine. Signym would say Putin didn't, but he did in way that he could take back, or claim he was misunderstood, without admitting he had made a death threat.



Forget Sigs. I WILL SAY THAT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

Go hide in your bunker, retard.

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You are a fucking idiot.

Today Putin said he'd nuke the USA if he loses in Ukraine. Signym would say Putin didn't, but he did in way that he could take back, or claim he was misunderstood, without admitting he had made a death threat.



Forget Sigs. I WILL SAY THAT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

Go hide in your bunker, retard.

I'm not hiding, 6ix. But Putin budgeted 49 billion roubles for nukes this year and the same amount next year and more the year after that. He is spending so he can believably threaten to nuke the USA. These Russian defense expenditures are readily available:
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2021/11/01/russian-nuclear-w
eapons-stand-out-in-defense-budget-request
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If 6ix wants to say Putin can't nuke the USA, 6ix is crazy and stupid and addicted to tobacco, three things which are deadly alone but especially lethal when one man combines all three. Nobody will be surprised, other than 6ix, when he abruptly drops dead from the fatal combination of crazy/stupid/nicotine.
Putin Threatens to Nuke the World
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-threatens-nuke-world-opinion-1685241

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Learn to read you stupid, ignorant fuck.

I've got a gun. That doesn't mean I'm going to shoot you with it.

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Learn to read you stupid, ignorant fuck.

I've got a gun. That doesn't mean I'm going to shoot you with it.

Putin has a gun and says he will kill. If Putin was killed, before Putin fired a shot, it would be justified homicide. There is no law requiring Putin's intended victims to wait until after Putin shoots before they shoot him. Putin's life depends on Putin's victims being intimidated by him into doing nothing to Putin until too late.

Putin is a TV show villain. Putin is killing anybody he wants in Ukraine. He is threatening to kill anyone, anywhere in world, who stops him. Anyone includes Finland and Sweden for thinking about joining NATO. Anyone includes the USA and UK for being part of NATO. Putin is putting on an impressive show of villainy.

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Learn to read you stupid, ignorant fuck.

I've got a gun. That doesn't mean I'm going to shoot you with it.

Putin has a gun and says he will kill.



I still haven't heard him say that. He's the one who's got half the world being aggressors against him right now. I'd be reminding people that I had a gun too. If he were a skunk, he would have already sprayed.


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If Putin was killed, before Putin fired a shot, it would be justified homicide.


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There is no law requiring Putin's intended victims to wait until after Putin shoots before they shoot him.


Let's dig up your posts about Kyle Rittenhouse, shall we?

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Putin is a TV show villain.



Since Trump left office, US cable TV needed a villain. They made one.

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The chain of command for a potential Russian nuclear strike

President Vladimir Putin has once again promoted Russia’s nuclear might against the backdrop of the Ukraine conflict, saying on Wednesday that a new ballistic missile system should make Moscow’s enemies stop and think.

Announcing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine eight weeks ago, Putin warned the West that any attempt to get in its way “will lead you to such consequences that you have never encountered in your history”. Days later, he ordered Russia’s nuclear forces to be put on high alert.

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said last month that “the prospect of nuclear conflict, once unthinkable, is now back within the realm of possibility.”

Here is how Russia’s chain of command would work in the event of a nuclear weapon launch.

Who decides to launch Russian nuclear weapons?

A 2020 document called “Basic Principles of State Policy of the Russian Federation on Nuclear Deterrence” says the Russian president (Putin) takes the decision to use nuclear weapons. https://web.archive.org/web/20220303085303/https://archive.mid.ru/en/w
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A small briefcase, known as the Cheget, is kept close to the president at all times, linking him to the command and control network of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces.

The Cheget does not contain a nuclear launch button but rather transmits launch orders to the central military command – the General Staff.

If Putin gives the nuclear order, what happens?

The Russian General Staff has access to the launch codes and has two methods of launching nuclear warheads.

It can send authorisation codes to individual weapons commanders, who then execute the launch procedures.

There is also a back-up system, known as Perimetr, which allows the General Staff to initiate the launch of land-based missiles directly, bypassing all the immediate command posts.

Did Putin’s ‘high alert’ order make a launch more likely?

After Putin said on February 27 that Russia’s deterrence forces – which include nuclear weapons – should be put on high alert, the defence ministry said the Strategic Missile Forces, the Northern and Pacific Fleets, and the Long-Range Aviation Command had been placed on “enhanced” combat duty, with reinforced personnel.

The term enhanced, or special, combat duty does not appear in Russia’s nuclear doctrine, leaving military experts puzzled over what it might mean.

Pavel Podvig, a senior researcher at the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research in Geneva, said on Twitter that the order might have activated Russia’s nuclear command and control system, essentially opening communication channels for any eventual launch order.

Alternatively, he said, it might just mean the Russians had expanded the staff at their nuclear facilities.

Does Russia have rules on using nuclear weapons?

The 2020 doctrine presents four scenarios that might justify the use of Russian nuclear weapons:

– the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;

– data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;

– an attack on critical government or military sites that would undermine the ability of Russia’s nuclear forces to respond to threats;

– the use of conventional weapons against Russia “when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy”.

What nuclear capabilities does Russia have?

The Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia has 5,977 nuclear warheads, more than any other country. Of these, 1,588 are deployed and ready for use. Its missiles can be fired from land, by submarines and by airplanes.

Putin oversaw a coordinated test of Russia’s nuclear forces on February 19. On April 20, he was shown on TV being told by the military that the intercontinental ballistic missile Sarmat, which has been under development for years, had been successfully test-launched for the first time. Russia’s nuclear forces will start taking delivery of the new missile “in the autumn of this year”, Tass news agency quoted a senior official as saying on Wednesday.

The United States, for its part, last month postponed a routine test launch of its Minuteman ballistic missile in an apparent effort to lower tensions with Russia.

Has Russia ever used a nuclear weapon in war?

No. To date, the only use of nuclear weapons during conflict was in 1945, at the end of World War II, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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A panel of Russian analysts on the state-run TV channel Russia-1 spoke about the Russian military test-firing a nuclear-capable missile and how it could damage areas in the U.S., such as New York City.

Russian state TV hosts and panelists giggled uncontrollably while discussing nuclear strikes against the continental territory of the United States. Can you imagine any of our prominent media anchors laughing at the idea of destroying cities?

https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-response-russian-tv-nuclear-strike-d
iscussion-1700166


Why are Russians talking about nuking the USA? Because Russians are told they have two choices: Win this war or be destroyed. Aleksey Zhuravlyov, a member of the lower house of the Russian parliament, put a Kremlin spin on the war in Ukraine for the millions of viewers of an influential Russian talk show. Russia wasn’t really fighting Ukraine or Ukrainians; the real enemy was the American-led Western bloc. “We need to introduce a new term,” Zhuravlyov said. “Biden’s war.”

Given that Russia’s nuclear arsenal is capable of destroying humanity, it is bad news for everyone on the planet when Russians ask, as Putin once put it: “Why do we need the world if there is no Russia in it?”

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The threat of nuclear war gives Putin license to kill

History isn’t short of people to blame. You could say of the present world crisis that it was former president Barack Obama’s fault for not getting tougher with Russian president Vladimir Putin in Syria. You could blame former president Donald Trump for giving Putin a sense of entitlement and for undermining NATO, seeing it as a financial play. You could blame former German chancellor Angela Merkel for encouraging Russian gas imports, shutting out the nuclear energy option.

You could, of course, blame President Biden for explicitly telling Putin, and the world, what the United States wouldn’t do if he invaded Ukraine. And you could blame Biden and NATO for dribbling vital military aid to Ukraine over the first devastating months of the Russian invasion.

If you want to continue, you could blame the world’s military strategists for believing that Russia, after the fall of communism, had changed. You could, perhaps, blame NATO itself, for expanding its reach to the former Soviet republics of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia.

Putin is unequivocally the one to blame. He is the one who wants to remake Russia in the image of the imperial tsars. It is a flawed scheme but a real one.

As the world grapples with the reality of Putin, the past informs but it doesn’t instruct. If NATO were to engage Russia with conventional forces, it would triumph. That is one lesson of Ukraine. Russian military forces are woefully inefficient, even incompetent.

Would it were that simple.

The beast in the room, the feared monster, the threat that hangs over the whole world is nuclear war. It is the clear-and-present danger. It shapes our handling of Russia and will shape our response to China, if and when it invades Taiwan.

Nuclear war avoidance is again dominating the world in ways we had nearly forgotten. Will Russia — a caged, fierce bear — resort to nuclear, and how much nuclear to what effect against which targets?


The United States and the Soviet Union reached a modus vivendi: mutual assured destruction (MAD), which kept the peace even as nuclear armaments proliferated and stockpiles grew exponentially. Is that still the option? Is MAD — so long after the collapse of the Soviet Union — still the underlying realpolitik, the restraining factor between nuclear powers?

Does that mean that anyone with nuclear weapons can wage conventional warfare in the belief that they won’t face NATO or any other serious restraining military action because they can unleash terrifying global destruction?

Or is there, as some believe, the prospect of limited nuclear engagement, using area tactical nuclear weapons? This has never been tested. There hasn’t been a limited nuclear ground war. Could it be contained? Should it be contemplated outside the deeper reaches of the defense establishment?

But it is what keeps the leaders of Europe, the United States and Canada awake nights. If you favor limited nuclear war, just look to the effects of a nuclear disaster, Chernobyl, and start multiplying.

It is the unthinkable scenario that must be thought about. It is the reality that holds back NATO and makes the West a spectator to the carnage in Ukraine.

Russia isn’t a rich country. It has a large, poorly trained and equipped military. But it bristles with nuclear weapons aimed at North American and European cities. Its ability to threaten us with nuclear horror changes the balance between nations: an indelible change to future foreign policy.

In the short term, when contemplating the return of MAD in international relations, the question is: How mad — as in insane — is Putin, and how ready is Biden?

The pieces on the world chess board have moved and they won’t be moved back. The intelligentsia has yet to grasp the extent to which Ukraine has changed the world — and made it a more dangerous place. They need to catch up fast.

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Saturday, April 23, 2022 10:38 AM

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lol

Thanks for posting that. Ted loves pictures.


There's nothing under the building in real life though.

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Tuesday, April 26, 2022 6:55 AM

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Russia’s top diplomat warned Ukraine against provoking World War III and said the threat of a nuclear conflict “should not be underestimated” as his country unleashed attacks against rail and fuel installations far from the front lines of Moscow’s new eastern offensive.

“Everyone is reciting incantations that in no case can we allow World War III,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in a Russian television interview, according to a transcript on the Russian Foreign Ministry’s website.

Lavrov said he would not want to see risks of a nuclear confrontation “artificially inflated now, when the risks are rather significant.”

“The danger is serious,” he said. “It is real. It should not be underestimated.”

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on Twitter that Lavrov’s comments underscore Ukraine’s need for Western help: “Russia loses last hope to scare the world off supporting Ukraine. Thus the talk of a ‘real’ danger of WWIII. This only means Moscow senses defeat in Ukraine.”

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-kyiv-business-nato
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Tuesday, April 26, 2022 8:23 AM

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Russia’s top diplomat said the West was engaged in a proxy war with his country that could escalate into a world war with nuclear weapons, as Western nations elevated their commitment to defending Ukraine.

“The risk is serious, real. It should not be underestimated,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in a Russian state-television interview broadcast Monday night. “NATO is, in essence, going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz last week said his government was treading carefully to avoid a nuclear war. But Germany said this week it would refurbish and send to Ukraine decommissioned antiaircraft cannon tanks known as Flakpanzer Gepard, or Cheetah, ending its longstanding reluctance to give tanks to the country.

For months, the U.K. has provided weapons on the proviso that they are used to defend Ukraine from Russian attack rather than offensively. But U.K. reversed that. “Things that the international community are now providing to Ukraine have the range to be used over the borders,” Mr. Heappey, who is U.K. minister for the Armed Forces.

Since Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion, he has repeatedly raised the specter of nuclear war, invoking his country’s atomic arsenal in an effort to deter the U.S. and the NATO from getting involved in the conflict.

But as Mr. Putin’s army has faced fierce resistance from Ukrainian forces strengthened by large infusions of Western weaponry, concerns have grown in Washington and allied capitals that Russia could consider using a so-called tactical nuclear weapon to gain the upper hand on the battlefield.

Earlier this month, Russia further warned that it could station nuclear forces in and around Kaliningrad — a Russian exclave wedged between Lithuania and Poland — and bolster its military presence there if Finland and Sweden join the NATO alliance.

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Tuesday, April 26, 2022 8:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
“NATO is, in essence, going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”



CORRECTION: America is going to war with Russia while straight up arming the proxy of a proxy.

If Democrats want war with Russia so bad, then declare it and send the things you've created in Public Schools to go fight it already.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
“NATO is, in essence, going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”



CORRECTION: America is going to war with Russia while straight up arming the proxy of a proxy.

If Democrats want war with Russia so bad, then declare it and send the things you've created in Public Schools to go fight it already.

World War II began in September of 1939 when Nazi Germany invaded Poland. The United States would not join the Allied war effort until December 7, 1941 when it was attacked by the Japanese Empire in Pearl Harbor. You might say World War II started when Japan invaded China on July 7, 1937. The Philippines would be next with the Bataan Death March of captured Americans.

So, 6ix, why then did the United States not join the war effort before the Pearl Harbor attack? Lack of imagination. Germans and Japanese kept telling America about the countries that would be conquered, but Republicans in the Senate couldn't imagine it would happen. It took years, and thousands of highly dramatic American deaths involving flames and explosions and heroics, to get those Republicans to change their minds.

Putin has kept telling America about countries that would be conquered -- countries that joined NATO. It does not take much imagination to believe Russians will be executing Putin's plan, especially when Russia has the ultimate weapon and keeps threatening at least once a week to use it on NATO countries.


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Tuesday, April 26, 2022 10:07 AM

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If NATO has any power at all, why do we have to be involved at all?

Perhaps NATO should be disbanded if it can't function without us.

We've got our own invasion happening at our Southern border to worry about.

And until we do, nobody gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If NATO has any power at all, why do we have to be involved at all?

Perhaps NATO should be disbanded if it can't function without us.

We've got our own invasion happening at our Southern border to worry about.

And until we do, nobody gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.

When Putin is finished with Ukraine, he will be invading another NATO country, but not Germany nor France nor UK nor USA.

Germany, France and the UK would have done nothing, as all weak countries will do nothing, until they are attacked. The USA helped Ukraine and then those other countries decided to help. If the USA stops helping, all other countries stop because their whiny cowardly cheapskate citizens don't want their Prime Minister to get involved. All of NATO would just stand back and watch as Putin invades the next NATO country.

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