Ukraine is useful in countering and smashing Putin & hurting invader Russians...but what happens when Volodymyr has gray hair and grows a Stalin/Maduro moustache by JAYNEZTOWN

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Ukraine is useful in countering and smashing Putin & hurting invader Russians...but what happens when Volodymyr has gray hair and grows a Stalin/Maduro moustache

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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 9:12 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

A murdering thug gangster Putin attacked.

The West wants a good win but almost no matter the cost but what if it is becoming a meat grinder stalemate.

Imagine if during some riot US Neocon Republicans banned every other group all Democrats, Libertarian, Greens and other Social parties
or if the newave US Democrats banned all other party opinions on social media, all Republican Conservatives, banned Libertarian, Constitutionalism party and Greens and other that were not their flavor of Leftism.

While the guns are sold perhaps no war monger gun merchant person wants peace. Even if by magic Ukraine got a new leader next year who wants true Democracy then a guy who is not anti-Russian can be taken down in an 'Orange Revolution' Putin was the invader of murder and aggression, the Russian murder rule of Putin is classed as a Dictatorship but Ukraine's rule is not, Ukraine also bans political groups, arrests critics in a Unitary semi-presidential republic.
but what will NATO and the USA have helped create many years in the future.
Oliver Stone's 2016 Ukraine documentary was suddenly banned, Yanukovych was elected president in 2010, defeating Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. The election was judged free and fair by international observers https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26248275
,
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/feb/08/viktor-yanukovych-ukrain
e-president-election
he has lived in exile in Russia since his removal from office in 2014 and found guilt of 'treason' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/ukraine-ex-president-vik
tor-yanukovych-found-guilty-of-treason. The Party of Regions is now a banned political party it had once grown to be the biggest party in Ukraine. Yanukovych stated: "All churches and religious organizations are equal for the state. We respect the choice of our citizens and guarantee everyone's Constitutional right to freedom of religion.
If you believe him a traitor or not Viktor_Yanukovych was a controversial man, almost 100 protesters were killed by police, he was sentenced in absentia. He seems to have been disliked by almost all poll conducted by the Razumkov Centre, only 4.9% of respondents would have liked to see Yanukovych return to the presidency.

Normally Globalists are not for Ethno-States, they are unsure about Israel and Saudi banning race mixing the dictator also can work but only if they are useful fighting some other group which the USA dislikes.
Ukraine is becoming a mono cultural ethno state, already pushed ethno-nationalism.The USA is not supproting jihadis but it has happened and Chechen Mercs are in Ukraine collecting bitcoins for their killings. The USA in the future could be part of something stupid, even the USA at times supports jihadist groups when it suits their short-term operational goals. They will probably still class Ukraine as democratic and Even though Ukraine has banned other political parties, they will probably ban all of the Russian language and anything connecting to the Russian culture. Nobody knows where Turkey is going, they hoped a change with elections but the West now has so many example of Allies turned to Enemies and if you add in the Anglo Empire and Europe you have many, many other examples throughout history. The terrorist bin Laden useful against the Soviets, then USA in Afghanistan and the Fall of Kabul ... what is NATO doing all the way in a landlocked islamist country in Central Asia where people riot and chop each other's heads off because of a funny cartoon. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda land bordered by Pakistan to the east and south where Pakistanis were hiding bin Laden. Other examples rise of Brics nations, Brazil, South Africa, the fall of Iran a friend turned in an islamist foe, even after the embassy hijacking Reagan and some colleagues were selling weapons to Iran. There are many example of people going from one team to another in Latin America for example Manuel Noriega in Panama. The Balkan wars, after the Turk Ottoman Empire was defeated years later Clinton was caught in a sex scandal, there was a dictatorship in East europe so suddenly Serbs became the enemy. The collapse of South Vietnam, officially the Republic of Vietnam Ho Chi Minh an ally turned into an enemy. Romania and Hungary take refugees in the Ukraine war but are less supportive of Ukraine because of the way it treats minority, Ukraine also had minority ethnic and language groups of Belarusian, Moldovan, Crimean Tatar, Bulgarian, Polish, Jewish and others.

The dictator Mugabe of Africa and Romania's Nicolae Ceausescu once Knighted commanders of the British Empire with Knighthood honors.

Allies can change every 4 years with election. Libya today is in a constant civil war, First Libyan Civil War and Second Libya Civil War seem to be part of the same civil war, two islamist groups fight Libyan National Army vs Government of National Accord....in Libya's War the USA fights itself against Greece, Egypt, Greece, Russia, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Chad, France ...but nobody is sure who the good rebels or terrorists are...the Libyans have weapons from many sides including the USA
200 Multipurpose Armored military Humvee Wheeled Vehicle donated by the U.S. Army
https://web.archive.org/web/20130928155831/http://www.armyrecognition.
com/july_2013_news_defence_security_industry_military/libyan_army_has_taken_delivery_of_200_hmmwv_humvees_from_united_states_3007131.html
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https://web.archive.org/web/20190408200937/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
world-africa-12692068
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https://www.smallarmssurvey.org/resource/whos-fighting-whom-tripoli-ho
w-2019-civil-war-transforming-libyas-military-landscape
Soviet, French, Swedish weapons, Russian assault rifles the Libyans got it now and some of these weapons arrived in the Syrian war.
the USA used to have an ally with Saddam vs Iran, dictators have long relied on their facial topiary to give the illusion of super Dictator.

Here's why some experts think Ukraine war could lead to stalemate with Russia
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/justthefaqs/2023/07/27/ukraine-ru
ssia-war-potential-stalemate/12295644002/

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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 9:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Once a champion of the Left the Oliver Stone film portrays the events that led to the flight of Yanukovych, calling it a coup d'état orchestrated by the United States with the help of far-right Ukrainian factions. The film's central thesis is that the U.S. had used Ukraine as a proxy against Russia for many years. It also claims that a large and influential section of Ukrainian protestors involved in the 2014 Revolution of Dignity were neo-Nazis. The film was regarded by critics as presenting a "Kremlin-friendly version of the events".

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/oliver-stone-produ
ced-ukraine-doc-causes-stir-russia-tv-network-ramps-up-security-threats-95013-950132/

US war hawk John Bolton claims that Donald Trump would “almost certainly withdraw the US from NATO” if he’s elected President.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1687560228936851456
If Trump makes this official he may win. Americans don’t want sick neocons like Bolton and Nuland spending trillions to murder people in far away lands.

Ukraine claims '250k Russian soldiers killed' as Putin's forces suffer on the frontlines
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1799629/ukraine-war-russia-casual
ties-frontlines

Casualties mount as Ukraine's counteroffensive continues
https://www.pbs.org/video/russian-invasion-1691524485/

Zelenskiy assassination plot foiled by security service, says Ukraine
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/07/volodymyr-zelenskiy-assa
ssination-plot-foiled-by-security-service-says-ukraine

Counting casualties on the battlefield amid Russia’s war on Ukraine
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/counting-casualties-on-the-battlef
ield-amid-russia-s-war-on-ukraine-20230721-p5dqcv.html

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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 12:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
US war hawk John Bolton claims that Donald Trump would “almost certainly withdraw the US from NATO” if he’s elected President.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1687560228936851456
If Trump makes this official he may win. Americans don’t want sick neocons like Bolton and Nuland spending trillions to murder people in far away lands.

Fuck John Bolton and anybody in either party who thinks anything he has ever done was for the good of the American people.

Fuck NATO. Fuck Democrats. Fuck NeoCons. Fuck Russia. Fuck Ukraine.

I wasn't aware of the Oliver Stone documentary. I'll probably give it a look. Thanks for the tip.

https://watchdocumentaries.com/ukraine-on-fire/

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Friday, August 11, 2023 5:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Ukraine to fire all regional military recruitment chiefs

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-fire-all-regional-militar
y-recruitment-chiefs-zelenskiy-2023-08-11/

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Fuck NATO. Fuck Democrats. Fuck NeoCons. Fuck Russia. Fuck Ukraine.

I kinda have some empathy support for Ukraine I guess its the image of a little guy getting bullied by the big guy. However there is something odd about this war, I think its becoming a USA NATO EU US banker military industrial complex money laundering operation perhaps with no winner.

Perpetual war is where bullets and missiles and cash move in a near endless war, or a almost forever war, is drains taxes, corrupted bankers and gun movers are happy in a lasting state of war with no clear conditions

The USA offering blood in Vietnam or interventions in foreign nations and the military–industrial complex such as the Vietnam War and the Soviet-Afghan War, or wars with ambiguous enemies, one positive is the USA are not dodging IEDs and bringing democracy to jihad nations but the Neo-Cons and Nu-Left now seem to have very similar corruptions when it comes to explaining the future for the USA, the Cold War is back but this time trade moves faster by Bitcoin and India, China, South Africa, Brazil and others might try build their own currency.

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Saturday, August 12, 2023 3:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

"is becoming"???

It's been a setup from the start. It's just that too many Ukrainian politicians were too corrupt and too bribe-able and were thinking of their bank accounts and European mansions instead of the people at home.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

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