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Punishing Russia With Sanctions

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Monday, March 7, 2022 5:55 PM

THG



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Perhaps their exchange was prompted by this...

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Russia is stopping rocket engine sales to the US and their space chief said, ‘Let them fly on something else, their broomsticks’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/17846831/russia-stops-selling-rocket-eng
ines-to-america
/

The RD-180 rocket engine is used to power Atlas V launches.

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Atlas V is an expendable launch system and the fifth major version in the Atlas launch vehicle family. It was originally designed by Lockheed Martin, now being operated by United Launch Alliance, a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Boeing. Atlas V is also a major NASA launch vehicle. In August 2021, ULA announced that Atlas V would be retired, and all 29 remaining launches had been sold. As of 2 March 2022, 24 launches remain. ... Each Atlas V launch vehicle consists of two main stages. The first stage is powered by a Russian RD-180 engine manufactured by Energomash and burning kerosene and liquid oxygen. The Centaur upper stage is powered by one or two American RL10 engines manufactured by Aerojet Rocketdyne and burning liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_V


In addition, Russia will no longer launch foreign payloads from Russian launch facilities:

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Early Thursday morning (March 3), London-based company OneWeb announced that it's suspending launches of its satellites from the Russia-run Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

The decision came after Russia's federal space agency, Roscosmos, announced it would not launch 36 OneWeb internet satellites as planned on Friday (March 4) unless OneWeb guaranteed that the craft would not be used for military purposes and the United Kingdom government agreed to divest itself from OneWeb, which it helped buy out of bankruptcy in 2020.


https://www.space.com/russia-stops-rocket-engine-sales-space-cooperati
on-frays


Looks like NASA and commercial launches will depend on SpaceX engines.






You really are detached from reality aren't you comrade?

T



Elon Musk taunts Russia after they stop selling rocket engines to US

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/elon-musk-taunts-russia-stop-101815719
.html


Elon Musk points to recent SpaceX launch to mock Russia's suggestion the US might have to fly into space on 'broomsticks' after rocket sales stop

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-points-to-recent-s
pacex-launch-to-mock-russias-suggestion-the-us-might-have-to-fly-into-space-on-broomsticks-after-rocket-sales-stop/ar-AAUBzHY?ocid=uxbndlbing


After Russia's threat, Elon Musk says SpaceX can protect the ISS from deorbiting

https://interestingengineering.com/russia-elon-musk-spacex-protect-iss
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Monday, March 7, 2022 6:00 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And finally...

It's too much of a PITA to provide links for everything, but bc Russia and Ukraine are major exporters of wheat, traders expect the price of wheat to rise considerably. Analysts are concerned there will be another "Arab Spring" due to rising wheat prices in the MENA.

And since corn depends heavily on fertilizer, and fertilizer is made from natural gas, I expect the price of fetilizer and subsequently the price of corn to rise.

Food prices, like fuel prices, are expected to rise.





And finally

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Monday, March 7, 2022 6:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, thE EU and the 5 eyes are shooting themsleves in the foot by sanctioning vital world commodities and all you can do is come up with an ignorant cartoon..

Got it!

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Monday, March 7, 2022 6:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Elon Musk is an unmedicated bipolar sufferer. He SAYS a lot of things and makes a lot of promises, very few of which actually come true. Remember that "hyperloop" that (he said) had been approved by city officials?

Yeah, right.

If SpaceX comes thru, great! If not, well ... I won't be surprised.

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Monday, March 7, 2022 6:22 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, thE EU and the 5 eyes are shooting themsleves in the foot by sanctioning vital world commodities and all you can do is come up with an ignorant cartoon..

Got it!






I get it comrade but apparently by what you post you don't.

T



107 Companies That Have Pulled Out of Russia

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has turned into the largest ground war on European soil since World War II. And along with causing immense loss of human life and destruction across many of Ukraine’s cities, it is roiling the global economic landscape – and causing many of the world’s largest companies to pull out of Russia as the country increasingly becomes a global pariah.

The economic fallout from this conflict is wide-ranging, in part because of both countries’ importance to the commodity markets. Ukraine and Russia are both global leaders in production of food commodities, including wheat and sunflower oil. Russia is also the world’s No. 3 oil producer, behind only the United States and Saudi Arabia. And Russia dominates the European energy market, as its largest supplier of natural gas, which is used for home heating and power generation.

5 Superb Stocks to Shield Against Stagflation
But another wrinkle has developed: American and international corporations alike are taking note of the global revulsion against Russia’s actions, and many have taken measures to stop doing business in the country. Their actions range from limiting access to services to pulling out of Russia altogether.

We’ll take a quick look at some of the biggest companies to distance themselves from Russia, then provide a table listing all the notable companies that have so far announced they will limit or halt their Russian operations.

Note: Changes are happening quickly, and we’re seeing a pattern of companies announcing relatively minor penalties followed by larger initiatives as the invasion continues.

Apple
The world’s most valuable publicly traded company announced on March 1 that it was freezing its business in Russia.

Apple (AAPL) had halted exports to Russia and limited Apple Pay service the previous week, after the U.S. government announced sanctions against Russian banks. But starting March 1, Apple expanded its measures, including halting sales of all products to Russia through the online Apple Store and restricting Russian news outlet apps to use only within Russia.


Netflix
Netflix (NFLX) is a prime example of how quickly the situation is evolving.

How Could the Russia-Ukraine Conflict Affect Your Investments?
When I started writing this article, Netflix was taking a cautious approach, putting a hold on future projects and acquisitions from Russia. By the time the article was finished, several hours later, Netflix announced it had suspended service in Russia altogether.

No streaming, Russian series that were in production have been halted. And the state-run channels the company was required to carry by the government are offline.

Shell
Energy companies have been among the most noteworthy firms taking measures against Russia.

On March 1, the multinational oil and gas giant Shell (SHEL) said it would exit all Russian operations – a permanent move, as opposed to a pause in operations. This includes abandoning Shell’s 27.5% stake in the flagship Sakhalin 2 liquid natural gas (LNG) plant. That plant produced 11.5 million tonnes of LNG annually that was exported to Asian markets including China. Shell also is pulling out of the Nord Stream 2 Baltic gas pipeline, which connects Russia to Germany, and exiting the Salym Petroleum Development, a joint venture with Russia’s Gazprom (OGZPY).

According to Reuters, Abandoning the Russian market could cost Shell around $3 billion. And the Sakhalin 2 and Salym ventures contributed $700 million to Shell’s net earnings in 2021.

Interestingly, on March 4, Shell reportedly bought a tanker full of Russian oil at a record-low discount. After those reports emerged, the company pledged it would use alternatives to Russian oil where possible. Until it is able to find alternative supplies, Shell will donate any profits from Russian oil to a Ukraine aid fund.

Visa and Mastercard
Credit card processors Visa (V) and Mastercard (MA) have suspended operations in Russia, further hobbling the country’s access to the global financial system. It was estimated that in 2020, 74% of credit card and debit card transactions in Russia were made through Visa or Mastercard.

Cards issued to Russian citizens will still work until their expiration date, with Russia’s Mir payment processing system taking over. However, Russian Visa and Mastercard cards will no longer work outside of the country, nor will they function for international online purchases. Non-Russian citizens will not be able to use their cards in-person in Russia, or to buy goods online from Russia.

Other Major Companies Exiting Russia
Each of the following companies has announced some sort of actions against Russia, as of March 7, from a partial suspension of operations to temporary full halts to permanent exits from the Russian arms of their businesses.

Company Name Ticker Publicly Traded in U.S.?
ABB Ltd ABB Y
AB Volvo VLVLY Y
Accenture ACN Y
Adidas ADDYY Y
Adobe ADBE Y
Advanced Micro Devices AMD Y
AerCap AER Y
Airbnb ABNB Y
Airbus EADSY Y
Alphabet GOOGL Y
Amazon.com AMZN Y
American Express AXP Y
ASOS ASOMY Y
Aston Martin ARGGY Y
Atlassian Corporation TEAM Y
AT&T T Y
Autodesk ADSK Y
Bank of China BACHY Y
Basis Technologies N/A N
BMW BMWYY Y
Boeing BA Y
Bolt N/A N
Boohoo Group BHOOY Y
ByteDance (TikTok owner) N/A N
BP BP Y
Canada Goose GOOS Y
Carlsberg CABGY Y
Chanel N/A N
Cisco Systems CSCO Y
CMA CGM N/A N
Comcast CMCSA Y
CRH PLC CRH Y
Daimler Truck DTRUY Y
Dell Technologies DELL Y
Deutsche Post AG (DHL) DPSGY Y
DuckDuckGo N/A N
Electrolux AB ELUXY Y
Electronic Arts EA Y
Eni E Y
Equinor ASA EQNR Y
Ericsson ERIC Y
Expedia EXPE Y
Exxon Mobil XOM Y
FedEx FDX Y
Ford Motor F Y
Fortum FOJCY Y
General Motors GM Y
GoDaddy GDDY Y
Harley-Davidson HOG Y
Hennes & Mauritz (H&M) HNNMY Y
Hermès International HESAY Y
Honda Motor HMC Y
HSBC Holdings HSBC Y
IKEA N/A N
Industria de Diseño Textil (Zara, Bershka, Massimo Dutti) IDEXA Y
ING Groep ING Y
Intel Corporation INTC Y
LVMH Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton LVMUY Y
Maersk AMKBY Y
Mango N/A N
Mastercard MA Y
Mazda MZDAY Y
Mediterranean Shipping Company S.A (MSC) N/A N
Mercedes-Benz Group DMLRY Y
Meta Platforms Inc FB Y
Netflix Inc NFLX Y
Nike Inc NKE Y
Nintendo NTDOY Y
Nokian Tyres N/A N
Nokia NOK Y
Nordea Bank NRDBY Y
Norsk Hydro NHYDY Y
Nvidia NVDA Y
OMV Aktiengesellschaft OMVKY Y
Oracle ORCL Y
Ørsted DNNGY Y
Paramount Global PARA Y
PayPal Holdings PYPL Y
Puma PUMSY Y
Reddit N/A N
Renault RNLSY Y
Roku ROKU Y
SAP SAP Y
Samsung N/A N
Sandvik SDVKY Y
Scania N/A N
Siemens SIEGY Y
Siemens Energy AG SMNEY Y
Snap SNAP Y
Sony SONY Y
Spotify SPOT Y
Suzuki Motor SZKMY Y
Swatch Group SWGAY Y
Taiwan Semiconductor TSM Y
Tata Motors (Land Rover, Jaguar) TTM Y
TJX TJX Y
Toyota Motor TM Y
Twitter TWTR Y
Uber Technologies UBER Y
Under Armor UAA Y
United Parcel Service UPS Y
Visa V Y
Volkswagen VWAGY Y
Walt Disney DIS Y
WebMoney N/A N
WPP WPP Y
YIT N/A N

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/107-companies-that-have-pulled-o
ut-of-russia/ar-AAUKlEt?ocid=uxbndlbing




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Monday, March 7, 2022 7:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your Democrats destroyed the economy, Ted.

Fortunately we get to stop the flooding in November. It will take a long time to make the repairs though.

Go Joe*!

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Monday, March 7, 2022 9:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


All of those companies will lose customers and investments to the Russians and Chinese. And then they'll cry BOO HOO HOO! Russia/China "stole" our jobs from us!

Boeing can no longer get titanium parts from Russia. (Boeing doesn't know how to weld titanium.) Duestche Banke is worried it will lose its IT workers.

Good luck with all of that! (Especially losing the "cheap energy" part.)




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Monday, March 7, 2022 10:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Guess the Twitter weirdos that took over high ranking positions in these companies as Diversity Hires didn't get the memo that they just fucked themselves.



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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 8:51 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

All of those companies will lose customers and investments to the Russians and Chinese. And then they'll cry BOO HOO HOO! Russia/China "stole" our jobs from us!

Boeing can no longer get titanium parts from Russia. (Boeing doesn't know how to weld titanium.) Duestche Banke is worried it will lose its IT workers.

Good luck with all of that! (Especially losing the "cheap energy" part.)






Customer’s means you have a product to sell or money to buy. Russia has neither and won’t for a very long time. Perhaps for a generation or longer. Russia is the new North Korea. Holy shit comrade. Your hero just broke, no destroyed, your beloved homeland.

T



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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 11:23 AM

THG


‘No better than North Korea’: Russian aviation faces wipeout

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has resulted in its airlines being banned from European, American and Canadian airspace, left the country with leased aircraft it cannot use, and scuttled aerospace industry partnerships with the West.

Russian citizens won’t be flying to Europe or North America anytime soon, with even flights to friendly countries such as China in doubt due to the international community’s ostracisation of the country’s aviation sector, according to aviation analysts.

“Russia will be the world’s largest country with a developed economy and an aviation industry no better than North Korea’s,” Richard Aboulafia, managing director of Michigan-based AeroDynamic Advisory, told Al Jazeera.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/no-better-than-north-korea-russia
n-aviation-faces-wipeout/ar-AAULeq2?ocid=msedgntp




Funny, but as much as I applaud the world for taking action to crush Russia, I feel really bad for the Russians who hate what Putin has done.

It's time they too stand up and fight for their freedom the way the Ukraine has.

T



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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"The world" ... except China, India, Iran, Pakistan, Brazil, Mexico, Germany (altho Joe* will twist their arm harder), Malaysia, Indonesia etc.

I find it interesting that some of the largest nations of the world have decidednto resist American sanctions, which prove that the USA is able to twist the arms of smaller nations.

Joe* has just decided to block Russian oil imports. (Must mean that no matter what the WH and CIA and State Dept say, the war in Ukraine is going well for the Russians,, since Joe* is still kicking and squealing about those results.)

Looking forward to gasoline at $8/gal!

And like our other sanctions, USA will punish other nations that refuse to adopt them, altho they didn't vote to and don't want to. China and India already have non-SWIFT payment systems and have decided to link directly to Russia, cutting U$D out of th loop. I'm sure that will make USA even more popular than it is across the globe. /snicker

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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:04 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"The world" ... except China, India, Iran, Pakistan, Brazil, Mexico, Germany (altho Joe* will twist their arm harder), Malaysia, Indonesia etc.

I find it interesting that some of the largest nations of the world have decidednto resist American sanctions, which prove that the USA is able to twist the arms of smaller nations.

Joe* has just decided to block Russian oil imports. (Must mean that no matter what the WH and CIA and State Dept say, the war in Ukraine is going well for the Russians,, since Joe* is still kicking and squealing about those results.)

Looking forward to gasoline at $8/gal!

And like our other sanctions, USA will punish other nations that refuse to adopt them, altho they didn't vote to and don't want to. China and India already have non-SWIFT payment systems and have decided to link directly to Russia, cutting U$D out of th loop. I'm sure that will make USA even more popular than it is across the globe. /snicker

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What you post is not the point others should discuss with you comrade SIGNYM. No, the point others responding to your posts should always be, not about gas prices, or other issues you chose to hide behind, but instead, why you continue to support someone who for years ‘intentionally’ bombed women and children in every conflict he has created. Bombed and even gassed hospitals, schools and committed all manner of war crimes for decades now. This is the point all should take up with you when responding to your posting at this site. All should continue to remind you at this site you are a trolling pariah comrade, and that's your best quality.

T



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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It was Kiev that intentionally bombed women and children. Or didn't you know that?

And if you want too look at the biggest, baddest bomber of women and children, look no farther than the USA, starting with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and working our way around the globe.

You support THAT, don't you?

So why are you pretending to take such a righteous tone, since you support mass murder?

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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:35 PM

THG


Russian army

T



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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 4:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ted loves it when people he disagrees with are made dead.

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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 4:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Funny, but as much as I applaud the world for taking action to crush Russia, I feel really bad for the Russians who hate what Putin has done.



Bullshit. You've gone all around these boards cheerleading companies and governments fucking the Russian people who have nothing to do with this. Go fuck yourself.

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It's time they too stand up and fight for their freedom the way the Ukraine has.



Oh. You mean like the people of Canada did?

Shut up you fuck.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It was Kiev that intentionally bombed women and children. Or didn't you know that?

And if you want too look at the biggest, baddest bomber of women and children, look no farther than the USA, starting with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and working our way around the globe.

You support THAT, don't you?

So why are you pretending to take such a righteous tone, since you support mass murder?



So, why don't you answer my questions, you stupid fuck?

Or does that too much moral courage?

BTW I noticed your buddy, CAPONCRUNCH, weaseled away from the board, again. At least HE recognizes when to bail on a lost cause.



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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"Oh BOO HOO HOO! We lost our investments!"

Quote:

Russia Proposes Nationalizing Foreign-Owned Factories That Shut Operations

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-proposes-nationalizing-f
oreign-owned-factories-shut-operations


WEST DECLARES TOTAL ECONOMIC WAR ON RUSSIA. RUSSIA DECLARES WAR BACK.


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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 7:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Oh BOO HOO HOO! We lost our investments!"

Quote:

Russia Proposes Nationalizing Foreign-Owned Factories That Shut Operations

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-proposes-nationalizing-f
oreign-owned-factories-shut-operations


WEST DECLARES TOTAL ECONOMIC WAR ON RUSSIA. RUSSIA DECLARES WAR BACK.



Maybe there's some good news over this and the last two years?

But it would probably be naive of me to hope that this is the end of Globalization.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 7:36 AM

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McDonald's closes its 850 locations in Russia.

This one is actually the best thing that has happened to the health of the Russian people in 100 years.



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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 9:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It was Kiev that intentionally bombed women and children. Or didn't you know that?

And if you want too look at the biggest, baddest bomber of women and children, look no farther than the USA, starting with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and working our way around the globe.

You support THAT, don't you?

So why are you pretending to take such a righteous tone, since you support mass murder?



So, why don't you answer my questions, you stupid fuck?

Or does that too much moral courage?

BTW I noticed your buddy, CAPONCRUNCH, weaseled away from the board, again. At least HE recognizes when to bail on a lost cause.








Your claim the Ukrainians are bombing themselves is disgusting. Biden said to Putin I’ve looked into your eyes and I see you have no soul. Based on what you’ve posted over the years including today, I’ve seen what you stand for. It’s obvious you exist without a soul as well. At least Putin admitted it, coward.

Your first sentence in the above post shows you to be lying so that is the point. Therefore the rest of what you post is not worth giving consideration to, but I will say this. Whataboutism, and what happened in the past cannot be used to justify what is happening today. That is of course unless you would argue that two wrongs make a right. You always try and fail to do that, while unsuccessfully attempting to shift the blame for atrocities committed by the Russians, to in this case the victims. Again, totally disgusting.

The whole time I have been posting at firefly fans I’ve said you were a Russian propagandist. No doubt about it now aye Polish Russian Collaborator signym? A lie, the whole time you’ve been posting at this site you have been deceptive about your intentions for posting what you post. I have always understood this about you because anyplace you and Kiki showed up, an odor followed.

You dumb commie fuck


T



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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
McDonald's closes its 850 locations in Russia.

This one is actually the best thing that has happened to the health of the Russian people in 100 years.



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The CEO said McDonald’s will continue paying its 62,000 workers in Russia.

McDonald’s has also temporarily closed 108 restaurants in Ukraine and is still paying the salaries of its nearly 10,000 Ukrainian employees. It donated $5 million to its employee assistance fund and is supporting local relief efforts led by the International Red Cross.

Chicago-based McDonald’s said in recent regulatory filings that its restaurants in Russia and Ukraine contributed about 2% of sales and about 9% of its annual revenue, or about $2 billion.

McDonald’s owns 84% of its restaurants in Russia and all of its locations in Ukraine.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/mcdonalds-temporarily-closing-its-850
-restaurants-in-russia-51646764375


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:04 AM

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Samuel Ramani @SamRamani2 tweeted:

I completed my doctoral thesis at Oxford last year on Russia's military interventions in Ukraine and Syria. Based on that research, I am sharing some thoughts on why Russia invaded Ukraine and what Putin might do next /1

Russian military interventions are often explained by geopolitical opportunism or regime insecurity
It is intriguing that Russia would invade Ukraine when its great power status was rising and there was no immediate threat to Putin's regime /2

Geopolitical opportunism has been chronically overplayed. Russia's annexation of Crimea and Black Sea foothold was not rationally worth the cost of Western sanctions. Even in Syria, Russia embarked on a potentially high-risk, uncertain reward mission that ended up succeeding /3

Regime insecurity has also been exaggerated as a driver of Russian aggression.
The 2011-12 protests might have influenced Russian alarmism about Euro-Maidan and the Arab Spring, but there was no serious threat of unrest diffusing from Kyiv and Cairo to Moscow /4

Putin has instead used military interventions as a tool of legacy-building and identity construction. He is focused on the long-term legitimacy of his regime and Russia's political system. Hence, he is willing to take excessive short-term risks and incur geopolitical costs /5

Putin's legacy hinges on satisfying domestic great power status aspirations
This means having a sphere of influence, effectively challenging the US-led legal order, and having a superpower-style global reach
The image of greatness matters even if Russia is actually isolated /6


Putin has also deftly framed his military interventions as a triumph against long-standing perceived internal threats
Fascism, uncontrolled unrest, Western expansionism, Islamic extremism- these narratives date back to Hungary 1956, and endured through the Soviet collapse /7

Putin has also effectively rationalized the costs of military interventions to the Russian people
Highlighting Russia's capacity for self-sacrifice as a contrast to perceived Western decadence is crucial. Hence the continuous World War II Great Patriotic War references /8

The war in Ukraine allows Putin to showcase Moscow's control over its sphere of influence, willingness to combat socially accepted threats and feeds into popular conceptions of "Russian strength"
It is an identity construction and authoritarian consolidation project /9

There are two differences between Russia's current and past actions:
The first is the extent of Russia's willingness to take risks in support of these goals
The second is Putin's reading of public opinion - he is appealing to a core base rather than the public writ large /10

Putin's conduct suggests that he will continue the war in Ukraine until he achieves a success that he can frame as a legacy or identity construction win
Given his framing of the war, that likely means he will continue pursuing regime change, but not necessarily an occupation /11

Given this calculus, sanctions are unlikely to deter Putin, and diplomacy is unlikely to change his mind
Only an intra-elite schism, which poses an immediate threat to his regime, might cause him to recalibrate, and even then, most likely only temporarily /12

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1501178540900982790
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1501178540900982790.html

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 12:42 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

BTW I noticed your buddy, CAPONCRUNCH, weaseled away from the board, again. At least HE recognizes when to bail on a lost cause.








Too funny comrade. G posts, just not like he used to. We can easily find several posts from him in the past few days.

Kiki comrade, where is your comrade in arms kiki. Thats the point. You're such a fucking moron. Facts mean nothing to you and it is painfully obvious.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:20 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Too funny comrade. G posts, just not like he used to. We can easily find several posts from him in the past few days.



I'm guessing SIGS didn't get enough attention from her family growing up OR she gets paid by the number of replies her posts get. Or both.

What else is there to say? Putin has made one of the most hated and epic misjudgments in recent memory. 100 years? For a guy that wanted to restore Russian glory he sure has screwed the pooch.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:24 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
McDonald's closes its 850 locations in Russia.
This one is actually the best thing that has happened to the health of the Russian people in 100 years.



Ha - I was thinking the same thing. Watch Burger King try and elbow their way in.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:
It was Kiev that intentionally bombed women and children. Or didn't you know that?
And if you want too look at the biggest, baddest bomber of women and children, look no farther than the USA, starting with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and working our way around the globe.
You support THAT, don't you?

...So why are you pretending to take such a righteous tone, since you support mass murder?
So, why don't you answer my questions, you stupid fuck?
Or does that too much moral courage?
BTW I noticed your buddy, CAPONCRUNCH, weaseled away from the board, again. At least HE recognizes when to bail on a lost cause.




THUGR: Your claim the Ukrainians are bombing themselves is disgusting.



The fact that Ukies are shelling and mining Ukies IS disgusting. Nonetheless, it's true. It's not ME that says so, but OSCE, UN, and UK which BTW have a pro-western bias and undercounts deaths on the DPR/LPR side. But even tho OSCE etc undercount DPR/LPR death, nonetheless most deaths occur on the DPR/LPRr side, meaning that Kiev is mainly responsible for killing more civilians.

https://newswep.com/bitter-score-thousands-of-civilians-killed-in-eigh
t-years-of-hostilities-in-donbass-articles
/

Quote:

Biden said ...
Oh, BIDEN said??? HAHAHAHA! Since when does Biden* tell the truth?

Somehow, the difference between fact and opinion STILL escapes you?

Quote:

Your first sentence in the above post shows you to be lying
Oh, I'm "lying" because you keep confusing lies, rumors, and opinion for fact?



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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:39 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR: Your claim the Ukrainians are bombing themselves is disgusting.



The fact that Ukies are shelling and mining Ukies IS disgusting. Nonetheless, it's true.






Uki's - what does it mean?/gross, ugly, trash.

This says it all comrade pig. It's also been established here you hate Jews so the Ukrainian president being Jewish must really bust your bubble. Especially since he is kicking Putins' ass.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:47 PM

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Trump has changed his tune as scenes of war and death in Ukraine at the hands of Russia have played out for the world to see on television.

In recent days, he said that the war would never have happened if he were still president and even called for the U.S. to attack Russia but make it look like it was actually China — by flying American planes with a Chinese flag on the side.

"And then we say, 'China did it,' " Trump told Republican donors Saturday in New Orleans, according to a recording obtained by The Washington Post. " 'We didn't do it — China did it,' and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."

It's the kind of simple-sounding amateur solution that Trump has floated throughout his political life.

Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, reportedly took an oblique shot at Trump in a speech before GOP donors Friday.

"There is no room in this party for apologists for Putin," Pence said. "There is only room for champions of freedom."

He also praised NATO, which Trump has continuously criticized.

"Where would our friends in Eastern Europe be today if they were not in NATO?" Pence said. "Where would Russian tanks be today if NATO had not expanded the borders of freedom?"

The problem, Madden says, is that this kind of message isn't being delivered repeatedly across the Republican Party and done so explicitly.

"That's one of the things about any sort of counterpoints for Trump within the Republican Party right now is those efforts have never really been broad," Madden said. "They've never really been sustained. They've never been methodical. They've always just been glancing blows. And that's why he still has such a strong command over the party apparatus."

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/1085023029/russias-invasion-puts-a-new-
light-on-trumps-ukraine-pressure-campaign


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The fact that Ukies are shelling and mining Ukies IS disgusting. Nonetheless, it's true. It's not ME that says so, but OSCE, UN, and UK which BTW have a pro-western bias and undercounts deaths on the DPR/LPR side. But even tho OSCE etc undercount DPR/LPR death, nonetheless most deaths occur on the DPR/LPRr side, meaning that Kiev is mainly responsible for killing more civilians.

https://newswep.com/bitter-score-thousands-of-civilians-killed-in-eigh
t-years-of-hostilities-in-donbass-articles
/

When I clicked on Signym's link, I got the false message:
Quote:

You are using an older version of Firefox (I AM NOT)
Update now to keep your Firefox browser running smoothly and securely.
Your download will begin automatically. If not, click here:
Update Firefox

Signym, I already use the latest Firefox version. The file your website wants me to download is a Trojan. Your website is double untrustworthy. The evidence is false and the website is actively trying to harm my computer.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:34 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The fact that Ukies are shelling and mining Ukies IS disgusting. Nonetheless, it's true. It's not ME that says so, but OSCE, UN, and UK which BTW have a pro-western bias and undercounts deaths on the DPR/LPR side. But even tho OSCE etc undercount DPR/LPR death, nonetheless most deaths occur on the DPR/LPRr side, meaning that Kiev is mainly responsible for killing more civilians.

https://newswep.com/bitter-score-thousands-of-civilians-killed-in-eigh
t-years-of-hostilities-in-donbass-articles
/

When I clicked on Signym's link, I got the false message:
Quote:

You are using an older version of Firefox (I AM NOT)
Update now to keep your Firefox browser running smoothly and securely.
Your download will begin automatically. If not, click here:
Update Firefox

Signym, I already use the latest Firefox version. The file your website wants me to download is a Trojan. Your website is double untrustworthy. The evidence is false and the website is actively trying to harm my computer.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





So sig is on the attack against posters in Hakens site. She is trying to have them download viruses. I wonder if he would like to shut that down? Do you have any contact info for him SECOND?

T



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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:43 PM

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White House eyes new sanctions on lawmakers in Russian parliament as part of financial attack on Moscow

The White House is weighing new sanctions against lawmakers in the upper-chamber of the Russian parliament, as the United States seeks to increase financial pressure on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, two people with knowledge of the matter said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/white-house-eyes-new-sanctions-on
-lawmakers-in-russian-parliament-as-part-of-financial-attack-on-moscow/ar-AAUQzTx?ocid=msedgntp




T


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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

So sig is on the attack against posters in Hakens site. She is trying to have them download viruses. I wonder if he would like to shut that down? Do you have any contact info for him SECOND?

T



Without Signym's numerous provocations, there wouldn't be very many posts at fff.net , except for 6ixStringJack's goofiness. Let them be who they are and do what they will.

The people who really cause harm in world are those brain-damaged Trump voters and Putin voters. They should be fired for the dumb stuff they do every fucking day at work, but where I live, the landscape is overrun with these dimwits who think they're smart. If I need hands, it's gonna be their fumbling fingers. Too bad those hands don't bring their brains to work or when they vote. Sure would make America and Russia run smoother, and their lives more prosperous, if they'd use the brains they've got rather knocking themselves into a stupor with too much alcohol and TV.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

So sig is on the attack against posters in Hakens site. She is trying to have them download viruses. I wonder if he would like to shut that down? Do you have any contact info for him SECOND?

T



Without Signym's numerous provocations, there wouldn't be very many posts at fff.net , except for 6ixStringJack's goofiness. Let them be who they are and do what they will.

The people who really cause harm in world are those brain-damaged Trump voters and Putin voters. They should be fired for the dumb stuff they do every fucking day at work, but where I live, the landscape is overrun with these dimwits who think they're smart. If I need hands, it's gonna be their fumbling fingers. Too bad those hands don't bring their brains to work or when they vote. Sure would make America and Russia run smoother, and their lives more prosperous, if they'd use the brains they've got rather knocking themselves into a stupor with too much alcohol and TV.






Reading your response got me thinking so what if she is gone. Disney is going to reboot firefly soon. As soon as it's confirmed this site will explode.

That along with the fact that some who might visit the site on occasion may click on one of Sigs' traps. I'll ask again. Do you have a email address or contact info that works?

T



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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL

I hate to break it to you, but anything Disney touches falls to crap.

My guess is a Disney Firefly reboot will go over as well as the 1 season and cancelled live action Cowboy Beebop.

You'll see a few faces come back here for a while, but it will never be like it was. Firefly was lightning in a bottle.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:26 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

CAPONCRUNCH What else is there to say? Putin has made one of the most hated and epic misjudgments in recent memory. 100 years? For a guy that wanted to restore Russian glory he sure has screwed the pooch.
. Welcome back!

Where would we be without your lies?

This was never about anything as goofy as "former glory", and only dumb fuck or a liar would spin it that way. Various Russian officials - not just Putin- have been saying for YEARS that it's about military security. That's why I posted Putin's 2007 speech. He said so then and has been saying the same ever since.

The fact that there were bioweapons labs in Ukraine, set up by our DoD, of course has nothing to do with it *wink*

And if you think that's disinfo, why is NULAND "worried about" Russians getting their hands on those "research materials (if they "don't exist")"?







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Thursday, March 10, 2022 7:48 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Various Russian officials - not just Putin- have been saying for YEARS that it's about military security. That's why I posted Putin's 2007 speech. He said so then and has been saying the same ever since.



So, to avoid war he started a war? Huh.

"Putin says..." That's as useless as "SIGNYM posted..."

Meanwhile, Russia continues to bomb women and children, hospitals, whatever.



Is killing women and children for security???


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Thursday, March 10, 2022 10:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Russia is not bombing women and children.



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Friday, March 11, 2022 11:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

So sig is on the attack against posters in Hakens site. She is trying to have them download viruses. I wonder if he would like to shut that down? Do you have any contact info for him SECOND?

T



Without Signym's numerous provocations, there wouldn't be very many posts at fff.net , except for 6ixStringJack's goofiness. Let them be who they are and do what they will.

The people who really cause harm in world are those brain-damaged Trump voters and Putin voters. They should be fired for the dumb stuff they do every fucking day at work, but where I live, the landscape is overrun with these dimwits who think they're smart. If I need hands, it's gonna be their fumbling fingers. Too bad those hands don't bring their brains to work or when they vote. Sure would make America and Russia run smoother, and their lives more prosperous, if they'd use the brains they've got rather knocking themselves into a stupor with too much alcohol and TV.






Reading your response got me thinking so what if she is gone. Disney is going to reboot firefly soon. As soon as it's confirmed this site will explode.

That along with the fact that some who might visit the site on occasion may click on one of Sigs' traps. I'll ask again. Do you have a email address or contact info that works?

T







TWO, your logic works only if it is based on the assumption the other browncoats, the good people, didn't leave the site because of the trolls. I say they did. I also believe they won't come back while the site still has Signym, jack and some others here who post lies prompted by hate.

Unless you weren’t being truthful when you claimed Signym posted a link to a Trojan horse? Then we have a different problem. Do you know how to contact Haken?

T



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Friday, March 11, 2022 12:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
TWO, your logic works only if it is based on the assumption the other browncoats, the good people, didn't leave the site because of the trolls. I say they did. I also believe they won't come back while the site still has Signym, jack and some others here who post lies prompted by hate.



I'm not going anywhere, Ted. Neither is Sigs or Kiki.

You and Second are the ones promoting hate and lies every day. I have plenty of archived posts of Second's, and even a few really good ones of yours too.

Quote:

Unless you weren’t being truthful when you claimed Signym posted a link to a Trojan horse? Then we have a different problem. Do you know how to contact Haken?


Of course he was lying. You're not getting anybody banned here, Ted. The only people who have ever been banned from this site were inciting violence and/or bullying others with repeated attempts to goad them into suicide.

You stood by and applauded those efforts too. And I have plenty of links showing you doing so.

You might want to think VERY long and hard before you throw that stone.

And take a really good look in the mirror while you're at it. You are not the good guy.

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How can 40% of the country feel like it's a good idea to let Biden* do any talking right now?

The guy can't even finish a sentence on a teleprompter without tripping on his words.

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Sunday, March 13, 2022 1:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah.

Saying that "Americans are all behind it" is just as gross and simple minded as you cheerleading the destruction of normal Russian's lives that have nothing to do with this war.

You're a simple-minded idiot, Ted. You're Lenny from Of Mice and Men.

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Sunday, March 13, 2022 7:11 PM

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Russia is done. Its citizens have followed Putin down a rabbit hole of doom. Signym will post all manner of bullshit about Russia surviving this, but it won’t. Everyday we’ll see on the news how Russia is committing war crime after war crime and heading not just into a recession, but a full-blown depression. Putin and therefore Russia, is done, over, kaput. Broken and useless; no longer working or effective.

Time for Signym's veil of tears followed by my many replies of, I told you so.

T



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Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:36 PM

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You are a terrible person, Ted.

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Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Russia is done. Its citizens have followed Putin down a rabbit hole of doom. Signym will post all manner of bullshit about Russia surviving this, but it won’t. Everyday we’ll see on the news how Russia is committing war crime after war crime and heading not just into a recession, but a full-blown depression. Putin and therefore Russia, is done, over, kaput. Broken and useless; no longer working or effective.

Time for Signym's veil of tears followed by my many replies of, I told you so.



Uh huh.

Is this another "endless clock" prediction that never seems to "get there"?
/snicker

Oh BTW it's "vale", (as in "valley") not veil.

Quote:

"Vale of tears" (Latin: vallis lacrimarum) is a Christian phrase referring to the tribulations of life that Christian doctrine says are left behind only when one leaves the world and enters Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_of_tears



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Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


:
Punishing Russia with





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Monday, March 14, 2022 2:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Various Russian officials - not just Putin- have been saying for YEARS that it's about military security. That's why I posted Putin's 2007 speech. He said so then and has been saying the same ever since.



So, to avoid war he started a war? Huh.

"Putin says..." That's as useless as "SIGNYM posted..."

Meanwhile, Russia continues to bomb women and children, hospitals, whatever.



Is killing women and children for security???


Oh, I have to point out what a dunb-ass you are.

The buildings that were targeted are NOT houses or schools or apartments, and DEFINITELY not hospitals.

They are large, single story flat-roofed commercial buildings. one looks like a warehouse.

If you look at the paking lots, they are EMPTY. Clearly not being used for their intended purpose. Thanks to the cloud cover which looks like drifting smoke (but isn't) and the fact that the photos were clearly taken in winter when everything looks brown, it looks like there is extensive damage (but there isn't).


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Ted thinks that this was a real event...



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