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Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:32 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


It is inconceivable to me that a human being could stoop so low as to run over another human being with a car, on purpose. That is sick.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/one-dead-and-19-injured-as-car-strike
s-crowds-along-route-of-white-nationalist-rally-in-charlottesville-two-police-die-in-helicopter-crash/ar-AApUdhF?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp



SGG

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Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The driver of the Challenger, James Alex Fields Jr., 20, of Ohio, was arrested and charged with one count of second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding, and one count of hit-and-run attended failure to stop with injury, police said. He is being held without bail and is scheduled to be arraigned Monday, Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail Superintendent Martin Kumer said.

Records show Fields last lived in Maumee, Ohio, about 15 miles southwest of Toledo.

Fields’s father was killed by a drunk driver a few months before the boy’s birth, according to an uncle who spoke on the condition of anonymity. His father left him money that the uncle kept in a trust until Fields reached adulthood.

“When he turned 18, he demanded his money, and that was the last I had any contact with him,” the uncle said.

Fields, he said, grew up mostly in Northern Kentucky, where he’d been raised by a single mother who was a paraplegic. The uncle, who saw Fields mostly at family gatherings ...




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It is inconceivable to me that a human being could stoop so low as to run over another human being with a car, on purpose. That is sick.



SGG



Happened in Europe a few times, right ? England, France, Austria, even the USA ... Glad to hear you're as equally disgusted at those times as you are now.

Missed the nonsense that went over in Charlottesville.


So, a recap... 1 group ( white nationalists ) had a permit to march. They showed up, doing their white nationalists thing, and then counter protesters showed up. Lots. With no permit at all. Despite being all organized and geared up for a fight.
Words exchanged, and then rocks thrown, and scuffles break out. Cops do next to nothing to keep the 2 parties away from each other, and after a day of this crap, some 20 yr old Ohio punk gets in his car and drives into a crowd.

1 dead, dozens hurt.

Did I miss anything so far ?


Also...

Quote:

Fields’s father was killed by a drunk driver a few months before the boy’s birth, according to an uncle who spoke on the condition of anonymity


Someone isn't doing journalism right. At all. The boy's UNCLE, who spoke on condition of anonymity ? Why the hell identify the person as his UNCLE, who was in charge of the boy's MONEY , until he turned 18... Good grief. Can't be too many uncles he has, and I'd bet the # of uncles he has who were custodians of his nephew's money is down to about 1.





Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Did I miss anything so far ?

That Saturday’s Unite the Right rally was meant to protest the planned removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.

The terms of the Confederacy’s defeat were gentle. Having inaugurated a war which killed more Americans than all other American wars combined, the Confederacy’s leaders were back in the country’s political leadership within a decade. Within two, they had effectively retaken control of the South.

Nazi Germany was also defeated. But while its surviving leadership was put on trial before the world, not one author of the Confederacy was convicted of treason. Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop was hanged at Nuremberg. Confederate General John B. Gordon became a senator. Germany has spent the decades since World War II in national penance for Nazi crimes. America spent the decades after the Civil War transforming Confederate crimes into virtues. It is illegal to fly the Nazi flag in Germany. The Confederate flag is enmeshed in the state flag of Mississippi.

www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/no-confederate/53551
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Does the mention of Nazi Germany with Charlottesville right-wingers seem too much? It is not. Before the attack the right-wing marchers were filmed chanting “Blood and Soil,” a Nazi slogan which held that ethnicity is based solely on blood descent and the territory one maintains.

https://qz.com/1052725

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 14, 2017 4:52 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Rappy, I'm glad that you pointed out what I commented on; namely the cowardly action of a demented mind. All those murders using cars are exactly what I was talking about.

Oh wait...were you trying to troll me by accusing me of not bringing up those heinous crimes and pure thuggery in Europe? For shame, how could you think of such a thing about me? Yes, those are exactly what I had in mind when I wrote about it. Exactly...you see, great minds do think alike!

Yes, exactly the kind of cowardly, dastardly and totally psychopathic behavior by mindless thugs that are at the crux of terrorism (it's not just for Muslims anymore). Those scumbags that call themselves the "alt-right," those cowards and losers that think they are special (Hmmmmm, isn't that exactly what those so-called Muslims think about themselves). Yeah, those
stupid motherfuckers who click their heels and raise their right arms in salute to a dead motherfucker (a crazy one at that) that HATED blacks and Jews and wanted to take over the world because he felt special and privileged. Yeah that motherfucking scumbag!

I, of course, measure those two factions, a minority no matter their belief, skin color or nationality; by the same yard stick - scumbags.
Yes, the same type of mentality that thinks they are - perfect. Yep, those
soulless motherfuckers, they are of the same ilk. So, you're right Rappy...

Quote:

Happened in Europe a few times, right ? England, France, Austria, even the USA ... Glad to hear you're as equally disgusted at those times as you are now.


Yeah, I'm equally disgusted! You've said a mouthful!
And here I thought you might not get the subtle little irony; that these scumbag kings could be equated with the likes of the equally dogshit motherfucking scumbags that gathered to "protect" the statue of a loser; oh! my bad, a general of the confederacy...who lost the civil war over...
what was again, oh yeah...slavery. The buying and selling of humans; just like in the days of yore when the Creeks, Italians, Dutch, etc. used to do it thousands of years ago. Why, it was even done by the Africans against their rivals, enemies and neighboring tribes. Actually that was a trend back in those days.

And here we are in 2017, having known better, and still trying to harken back to those "good old days" when slavery was all the rage. Except here in the USA it was called Jim Crow. Well hush my mouth, I do declare...them days is over. Nazi Germany took an ass whooping; hey there was even a trial (just to be fair about it all), so they were tried and convicted. And here we have these fools marching about with Tiki torches.

Oh yeah, you didn't hear about that, now did you? Yes, it seems a bunch of fellas marched over the night before the Big Rally in Emancipation Park (formerly known as Robert E. Lee park) and proceeded to have a KKK rally to try and intimidate the good folk inside a nearby church peacefully congregating to discuss the next day's event. The Antifa group, along with Black Lives Matter and some other leftists were gathered to discuss the day's plans; when suddenly these brain surgeons from all over the country appeared with the torches to drop by and say hello. Nice of them fellas to do that; mighty neighborly...don't ya think! That was Friday night.

Before you start ranting and raving about this, hear this...the KKK group showed up with riot gear and all kinds of "armor" - so did the leftist group. And then on the day of the General Lee love fest, they were prepped for battle. Thing was disgusting all along. Tempers flared, punches were thrown, so were bottles filled with water, but also some were filled with urine. That's right urine! I could guess who brought that. There were a reported 1000 Nazi scumbags marching about that day, and some 5000 protesters that were anti-white supremacy. After much scuffling and mayhem, the police finally moved in and broke up the ugly event.

People were disbursing and heading for home, when the cowards, who obviously planned this, sent that dumb motherfucker to plow into the crowd of people milling about on that street. Just like those terrorists in Europe who act out as "Lone Wolves" to commit this despicable and cowardly act. Only low-life scumbag losers act that way. They can't win so they commit acts of pure evil to somehow satisfy their pathetic puny lives.

So thank you for pointing out the obvious. I could not have said it better myself.

But here's the difference...the Charlottesville Murder was commited on American soil. WE are better than that. We are not animals; at least I once thought so.



SGG - I proudly sign my nom de plume!



Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It is inconceivable to me that a human being could stoop so low as to run over another human being with a car, on purpose. That is sick.



SGG



Happened in Europe a few times, right ? England, France, Austria, even the USA ... Glad to hear you're as equally disgusted at those times as you are now.

Missed the nonsense that went over in Charlottesville.


So, a recap... 1 group ( white nationalists ) had a permit to march. They showed up, doing their white nationalists thing, and then counter protesters showed up. Lots. With no permit at all. Despite being all organized and geared up for a fight.
Words exchanged, and then rocks thrown, and scuffles break out. Cops do next to nothing to keep the 2 parties away from each other, and after a day of this crap, some 20 yr old Ohio punk gets in his car and drives into a crowd.

1 dead, dozens hurt.

Did I miss anything so far ?


Also...

Quote:

Fields’s father was killed by a drunk driver a few months before the boy’s birth, according to an uncle who spoke on the condition of anonymity


Someone isn't doing journalism right. At all. The boy's UNCLE, who spoke on condition of anonymity ? Why the hell identify the person as his UNCLE, who was in charge of the boy's MONEY , until he turned 18... Good grief. Can't be too many uncles he has, and I'd bet the # of uncles he has who were custodians of his nephew's money is down to about 1.





Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


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Monday, August 14, 2017 7:57 AM

REAVERFAN


Now, the usual suspects will try to obfuscate the real issue by pointing at BLM and Antifa, pretending they're just as violent, when the facts prove otherwise.


The Nazis came armed to the teeth, looking for a fight. They got one, and one of them did the unthinkable.

Reichwing terrorism, as I've repeatedly pointed out, is the most common form of terrorism in the US today; not Muslims, not "leftists."

Trump gave a mealy-mouthed call for "unity." How the hell are we supposed to "unite" with the most reprehensible and violent people in the country, driven by their death cult beliefs?

Heather Hyer is dead, because she was fighting Nazis in the US, in 2017. I'm going to a vigil to mourn her tonight.

"Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists applaud Donald Trump's response to deadly violence in Virginia
'Trump comments were good, He didn't attack us. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him,' says white nationalist" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/neo-nazis-white-supre
macists-celebrate-trump-response-virginia-charlottesville-a7890786.html


Here's what the Nazis had to say about her. I'm sure SSJ reads this all the time. https://www.dailystormer.com/heather-heyer-woman-killed-in-road-rage-i
ncident-was-a-fat-childless-32-year-old-slut
/

Hitler sucked a bullet. Mussolini was torn to pieces in the streets. Fascists didn't win then, and they won't, now, even with Trump's support. They will be eradicated, by any means necessary.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 8:11 AM

REAVERFAN


The Nazis are proud of themselves. They think girls are going to want them, now.

"To those of you in Charlottesville, go out and enjoy yourselves.

If you’re at a bar in a group, random girls will want to have sex with you. Because you’re the bad boys. The ultimate enemy of the state. Every girl on the planet wants your dick now.

And to everyone, know this: we are now at war.

And we are not going to back down."
https://www.dailystormer.com/unitetheright-charlottesville-live-update
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Riiight... They're a bunch of 30-year-old virgins who never had a woman. No woman would sleep with such misogynist scum.

LMAO!

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Monday, August 14, 2017 8:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Those who are intent on erasing history are doomed to repeat it.

The Left are creating the very enemy they claim to want to destroy.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, August 14, 2017 8:50 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Those who are intent on erasing history are doomed to repeat it.

The Left are creating the very enemy they claim to want to destroy.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

You support the Nazis. Admit it.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 11:04 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


What we know about James Alex Fields Jr:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/08/charlottesville-jame
s-alex-fields-170813111202708.html


A Trump supporter who posts support for Syrian dictator Assad on social media - he would get on well with some people on this board.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 11:11 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


troll, troll, troll your crap
snarkly down the screen
nastily, nastily, nastly, nastily,
you're a trollers dream




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 11:12 AM

REAVERFAN


He was just another messed up, lonely kid who, since at least 9th grade, became fascinated with Hitler, openly held racist views, and was seduced by the Nazi cult because he was a misfit, and they made him feel like he was part of something.

Those are the kind of not-so-bright people the alt right attracts.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 12:03 PM

REAVERFAN


Dr. Cornel West says anti-fascist and anarchist protesters protected clergy from being "crushed like cockroaches" by white nationalists Friday night in Charlottesville: "They saved our lives, actually… I will never forget that."

God bless the Antifa heroes!

https://www.facebook.com/democracynow/

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Monday, August 14, 2017 12:09 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
He was just another messed up, lonely kid who, since at least 9th grade, became fascinated with Hitler, openly held racist views, and was seduced by the Nazi cult because he was a misfit, and they made him feel like he was part of something.

Those are the kind of not-so-bright people the alt right attracts.



Very much from the same playbook that ISIS and other violent "cults" use. Accept by giving them time and attention, and they will become willing servants, even of the most despicable acts. I wonder if the driver of the murder car in Charlottesville has experienced any regret yet? Or is he more anxious to hear his gang laud it over him for his act? "That was awesome dude - you killed some young SJW!"

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Monday, August 14, 2017 12:41 PM

REAVERFAN

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Monday, August 14, 2017 1:07 PM

REAVERFAN


The Pro-Trump Right Reacts To Charlottesville Attack: Both Sides, False Flag, Blame The Left

The lead story on Breitbart for part of this morning was about E.W. Jackson, a black conservative activist and onetime Virginia GOP politician, condemning “both sides” of the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville this weekend, and saying that the deaths of three people are “just what white racists and black racists want.” WorldNetDaily led with a story claiming, falsely, that President Trump “unequivocally condemned the ugly rally by neo-Nazis, Klan members and other white supremacists.” Infowars featured a story on how the white supremacist rally’s organizer was “chased and beaten by a mob of leftists” when attempting to give a press conference yesterday.

Trump’s allies on the Right have rallied around him in the days since a participant in a white supremacist rally drove his car into a group of counter-protesters, killing one and injuring more than a dozen, which Trump responded to by condemning violence on “many sides.”

Some of the usual suspects quickly lined up to claim that the car attack was a “false flag” made to make Trump and his supporters look bad. Conspiracy theorist radio personality Alex Jones claimed that a lot of “KKK guys” at racist events are actually “Jewish actors.” Wayne Allyn Root, a Trump acolyte who campaigned for the president in Nevada, wrote on Twitter that the white nationalists rallying in Charlottesville were “[p]robably paid actors & infiltrators hired by Soros”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-pro-trump-right-reacts-to-charl
ottesville-attack-both-sides-false-flag-blame-the-left
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Sniveling, lying cowards.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 1:09 PM

REAVERFAN


"What a pathetic, sniveling little man our president is. A coward."


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Monday, August 14, 2017 2:49 PM

SECOND

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
troll, troll, troll your crap
snarkly down the screen
nastily, nastily, nastly, nastily,
you're a trollers dream

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda.

1kiki, the Deep State's agenda does not support neo-Nazis. Neither would Hillary support white nationalists. Just needed pointing out before 1kiki goes all crazy about how evil Hillary is.

Trump refused to explicitly condemn neo-Nazis and white nationalists for two days, and there’s no question that his fans got the message: “He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together,” wrote the Daily Stormer’s Andrew Anglin. “No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”
www.dailystormer.com/unitetheright-charlottesville-live-updates/

Today Trump finally denounced racism, but did so under such obvious pressure that his white nationalist fans understand he’s just playing a role. This is exactly the way he handled the David Duke controversy last year: weasel words for a couple of days, followed by an obviously insincere condemnation under heavy pressure.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 14, 2017 4:45 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

You support the Nazis. Admit it.



Your lack of intelligence is rivaled by your lack so humor.

Fuck off.


Oh, and BTW ...


Trump just cut the legs out from under all you pansy ass snowflakes by outright naming said hate groups, kkk, neo Nazis... Trump did in mere hours what Barry HUSSIEN Obama refused to do in 8 years. Call out the terrorists for who they are !


MAGA

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Monday, August 14, 2017 5:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
1kiki, the Deep State's agenda does not support neo-Nazis.

The Deep State doesn't care about those extra-curricular activities, any more than it cared about Slick Willy's and Hillary's sexual perversions.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 5:55 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

You support the Nazis. Admit it.



Your lack of intelligence is rivaled by your lack so humor.

Fuck off.


Oh, and BTW ...


Trump just cut the legs out from under all you pansy ass snowflakes by outright naming said hate groups, kkk, neo Nazis... Trump did in mere hours what Barry HUSSIEN Obama refused to do in 8 years. Call out the terrorists for who they are !


MAGA

As Second said, only after being pressured. The Nazis, being his biggest fans and supporters, understood he was just saying what he had to say.

Hitler had his brownshirts. Trump has his khaki-and-polo thugs. They worship him as much as you do.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 5:56 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

You support the Nazis. Admit it.



Your lack of intelligence is rivaled by your lack so humor.

Fuck off.


Oh, and BTW ...


Trump just cut the legs out from under all you pansy ass snowflakes by outright naming said hate groups, kkk, neo Nazis... Trump did in mere hours what Barry HUSSIEN Obama refused to do in 8 years. Call out the terrorists for who they are !


MAGA

As Second said, only after being pressured. The Nazis, being his biggest fans and supporters, understood he was just saying what he had to say.

Hitler had his brownshirts. Trump has his khaki-and-polo thugs. They worship him as much as you do.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 7:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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They will be eradicated, by any means necessary.


Maybe gas chambers are an efficient means??

Careful there, son. You're going down the wrong path.

"Antifa", btw, has been designated a terrorist organization by NJ DHS.

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antif
a?rq=antifa


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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Monday, August 14, 2017 7:38 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
1kiki, the Deep State's agenda does not support neo-Nazis.

The Deep State doesn't care about those extra-curricular activities, any more than it cared about Slick Willy's and Hillary's sexual perversions.

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda.

So, Trumpism stands in opposition to the Deep State?

1kiki, you live too much in your imagination. The key reality of Trump-era politics is that an American business elite that was never sold on candidate Trump has come to embrace a President Trump who embraces it back. Trumpism, in short, is fundamentally a hustle. It’s essentially a bet that if you punch nonwhite America in the face, white America will be so busy gawking they won’t notice their pockets are being picked too. And history teaches that it might work.

Rich CEOs are the big winners of Trump’s race war. Trump is devastating racial minorities while distracting his base from a plutocratic agenda. There are examples of how this works at:

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/14/16139440/trump-racism-plutoc
racy


One example from many: for all Trump’s notional concern for the impact of immigrants on working-class Americans, his budget proposal would devastate Medicaid and the earned income tax credit while showering the top 1 percent with tax cuts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 14, 2017 7:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Trumpism stands in opposition to the Deep State?
Do learn to read. That brief stand has been, and gone. Trump's now on board with RUSSIA!!!




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Trumpism stands in opposition to the Deep State?
Do learn to read. That brief stand has been, and gone. Trump's now on board with RUSSIA!!! Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.

The Russians think they are the center of the world for America, but whether Trump is on-board or off with Russia, nobody in the elite gives more than a tinker's damn about that half-assed governed oil-producer country, anymore than they do about Venezuela. What does the elite really care about? Money. How much they have.

It’s completely impossible for Americans, minus the American elite, to ignore Trump’s outrages and provocations on race, especially in light of the quite literally deadly consequences they can have. The Trump show as a culture war phenomenon is repugnant.

But it serves a real function, for the American elite, maintaining Trump’s electoral base without requiring him to take the trouble of helping them or to put in the work to convince them that his business-friendly policymaking is actually correct. The interests of the wealthy are being served at the expense of funding dozens of public interest priorities. The failure of much of the public to see that is integral to Trump’s mass political support, but the business community’s acute awareness of it is integral to his continued backing by congress and the institutional Republican Party.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/14/16139440/trump-racism-plutoc
racy


1kiki, you don't need to worry that all the wonderful things that Trump stands for will be lost once Trump is lost. His Vice President Pence will carry true Trumpism forward for you!

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Monday, August 14, 2017 8:41 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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The Russians think they are the center of the world for America
Time to take your meds.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

The Russians think they are the center of the world for America
Time to take your meds.
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.

That is one wrong headed comeback, 1kiki. I remember when you were supporting Bernie for President. What the hell happened to you? Were you faking it? And now you don't support anything in American politics beyond keeping Trump as President and fighting the "Deep State". Whether Trump is President for 4 years, 8 years, or gets impeached, the White House has been, is, and will be governed along the lines that the Republican elite have always wanted.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 14, 2017 9:54 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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They will be eradicated, by any means necessary.


Maybe gas chambers are an efficient means??

Careful there, son. You're going down the wrong path.

"Antifa", btw, has been designated a terrorist organization by NJ DHS.

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antif
a?rq=antifa


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035581#1035581

Fuck off, troll. They just poked the bear. Their live are about to become short and miserable.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 10:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


REAVERFAN-

Don't you realize that is EXACTLY how TPTB get - or stay- in control??? By making people who have an awful lot in common fight each other? How do you think Ukraine collapsed? Is that what you want here? Bitter, internecine fighting leading to chaos and death???

I think we have more in common than we what separates us, and we shouldn't let a few lunatics- either reichwing or antifa- prod us into a cage-match.

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* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

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Monday, August 14, 2017 11:38 PM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


I think we have more in common than we what separates us




Delusional. More people ALWAYS means less kumbaya. The "I'd like to buy the world a coke and give peace a chance while we hold hands across 'Merica" thing is loooong dead.


Hope... is just a distraction, Polly-anna.


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Monday, August 14, 2017 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It is inconceivable to me that a human being could stoop so low as to run over another human being with a car, on purpose. That is sick.

SGG

Happened in Europe a few times, right ? England, France, Austria, even the USA ... Glad to hear you're as equally disgusted at those times as you are now.

Yurp has largely had vehicles used to drive in specific pedestrian areas, not the activists on the autobahn.
In America, we send chillen to colleges to educamate themm how to only walk in the streets where cars and trucks drive, to jaywalk whenever possible, and cross the street as slow as possible when vehicle traffic is waiting for them (before they accelerate back to normal walking speed on sidewalk once they are not impeding traffic flow.) And then we are shocked that they think they qre impervious to cars.
As per their training, once the car stopped and shifted to reverse, the left-wing extremist activists clambored behind the car to stop it as the driver backed up.
Is anybody nominating these Libtards for Darwin Awards?

And he had been prescribed psychotropic drugs by his shrink, just like all the moms who kill their kids, and the Aurora CO cin ema killer, etc.
So it's Libtard victims versus Libtard victims, all around.
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Missed the nonsense that went over in Charlottesville.

So, a recap... 1 group ( white nationalists ) had a permit to march. They showed up, doing their white nationalists thing, and then counter protesters showed up. Lots. With no permit at all. Despite being all organized and geared up for a fight.

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with Dem Gov Terry McAuliffe sending in the illegal activists.
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Words exchanged, and then rocks thrown, and scuffles break out. Cops do next to nothing to keep the 2 parties away from each other,
cops were ordered to stand down in regards to stopping the left-wing extremist activists who were openly fighting and assaulting the legally permitted protesters of the racist statue removers. And then the cops declared the legal protesters must be escorted away, and closed every exit except the gauntlet surrounded by the left wing extremist thugs, and the cops funneled the peaceful protesters through the gauntlet of left-wing extremist radicals to instigate the fighting.
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and after a day of this crap, some 20 yr old Ohio punk gets in his car and drives into a crowd.

1 dead, dozens hurt.

Did I miss anything so far ?

Also...
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Fields’s father was killed by a drunk driver a few months before the boy’s birth, according to an uncle who spoke on the condition of anonymity
Someone isn't doing journalism right. At all. The boy's UNCLE, who spoke on condition of anonymity ? Why the hell identify the person as his UNCLE, who was in charge of the boy's MONEY , until he turned 18... Good grief. Can't be too many uncles he has, and I'd bet the # of uncles he has who were custodians of his nephew's money is down to about 1.

journalists are Libtards. This logic stuff cannot compute for them.

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Monday, August 14, 2017 11:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WISHY

What do we want?

Decent-paying secure jobs?

Safe places to live?

Education for our children?

Healthcare for our families and a pension for our old age?

Control over our future?

So .... what's the problem?

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:49 AM

WISHIMAY

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Control over our future?

So .... what's the problem?




You just answered your own question.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:10 AM

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“‘Many sides’ suggests that there is no right side or wrong side, that all are morally equal. But I reject that. It’s not hard to spot the wrong side here. They’re the ones with the torches and the swastikas.” -Kamala Harris.

Let me add, "and murdering people more often than any other terrorist group in the United States."

That is an undeniable fact.

End of discussion.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:16 AM

REAVERFAN


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Dr. Cornel West says anti-fascist and anarchist protesters protected clergy from being "crushed like cockroaches" by white nationalists Friday night in Charlottesville: "They saved our lives, actually… I will never forget that."

God bless the Antifa heroes!

https://www.facebook.com/democracynow/]



Yeah, that happened. Lots of witnesses and footage. God bless the lifesaving Antifa heroes!

God damn the Nazi terrorist murderers. They don't deserve a platform. Sane people don't want to hear it.

Just dimwitted, lonely, 20 or 30-something-year-old virgin losers who want to be part of something, and this is the cult they fell into.

They'd have been better off as Scientologists or Moonies.

They'll die alone, sad, and guilty.

Unless they change.

https://www.lifeafterhate.org/

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:23 AM

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It is the Gang Culture mentality..."Come join us and be special."
Still evil, no matter how you label it.


SGG


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
He was just another messed up, lonely kid who, since at least 9th grade, became fascinated with Hitler, openly held racist views, and was seduced by the Nazi cult because he was a misfit, and they made him feel like he was part of something.

Those are the kind of not-so-bright people the alt right attracts.


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:12 AM

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I just finished watching an interview with a known left-leaning producer/filmmaker and he said something very interesting; that all this is merely a distraction to the real action going on behind the scenes.

He said, that while the media focuses in on Trump's little side show; he, Bannon and company are slowly dismantling the democratic process with mass changes in rules and regs in various federal departments. One of the things that I also noticed was that there's been an attempt to dismantle the Dept. of Consumer Protection as well. Trump is the perfect salesman for the pulling of the wool over our collective eyes.

Here we are fussing and fighting about him making a statement regarding his outrage over something he definitely promotes - hatred and racism - meanwhile he's slowly destroying what has kept this country working decades.
Are we perfect? Hell no! But the system we have is ours. There are hundreds of positions that have not been filled in the federal government and it's a
deliberate ploy by Bannon and that other scumbag (the other Nazi in the White House, I can't remember his name). Trump has used the "alt-right" and Bannon has used Trump to promote his agenda. The Republican party better wake up soon and get this guy out of the White House before it's too late.

What happened in Charlottesville is only the tip of the iceberg, underneath the waterline the iceberg is busting huge gashes on the good ship USA, and within a short period of time we will be saying: WTF happened!?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
troll, troll, troll your crap
snarkly down the screen
nastily, nastily, nastly, nastily,
you're a trollers dream

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda.

1kiki, the Deep State's agenda does not support neo-Nazis. Neither would Hillary support white nationalists. Just needed pointing out before 1kiki goes all crazy about how evil Hillary is.

Trump refused to explicitly condemn neo-Nazis and white nationalists for two days, and there’s no question that his fans got the message: “He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together,” wrote the Daily Stormer’s Andrew Anglin. “No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”
www.dailystormer.com/unitetheright-charlottesville-live-updates/

Today Trump finally denounced racism, but did so under such obvious pressure that his white nationalist fans understand he’s just playing a role. This is exactly the way he handled the David Duke controversy last year: weasel words for a couple of days, followed by an obviously insincere condemnation under heavy pressure.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:20 AM

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NJ DHS, hmmm.

When did this happen? The declaration of Antifa.


SGG

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

They will be eradicated, by any means necessary.


Maybe gas chambers are an efficient means??

Careful there, son. You're going down the wrong path.

"Antifa", btw, has been designated a terrorist organization by NJ DHS.

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antif
a?rq=antifa


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And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I just finished watching an interview with a known left-leaning producer/filmmaker and he said something very interesting; that all this is merely a distraction to the real action going on behind the scenes.

He said, that while the media focuses in on Trump's little side show; he, Bannon and company are slowly dismantling the democratic process with mass changes in rules and regs in various federal departments. One of the things that I also noticed was that there's been an attempt to dismantle the Dept. of Consumer Protection as well. Trump is the perfect salesman for the pulling of the wool over our collective eyes.

Here we are fussing and fighting about him making a statement regarding his outrage over something he definitely promotes - hatred and racism - meanwhile he's slowly destroying what has kept this country working decades.
Are we perfect? Hell no! But the system we have is ours. There are hundreds of positions that have not been filled in the federal government and it's a
deliberate ploy by Bannon and that other scumbag (the other Nazi in the White House, I can't remember his name). Trump has used the "alt-right" and Bannon has used Trump to promote his agenda. The Republican party better wake up soon and get this guy out of the White House before it's too late.

What happened in Charlottesville is only the tip of the iceberg, underneath the waterline the iceberg is busting huge gashes on the good ship USA, and within a short period of time we will be saying: WTF happened!?


SGG

The U.S. contains very few committed and vocal white supremacists (turnout for the Virginia rally was dwarfed by counterprotests nationwide). But it does contain an awful lot of white people. To the extent that politics is seen as a crude zero-sum struggle between racial groups, most of the white people back the side they perceive as supporting the interests of white people.

Yet the reality is that while Trump is inflicting tangible disproportionate harm to racial minorities across the country, he’s not doing anything substantive to advance the interests of his typical white supporter either. He’s loudly embraced a brand of toxic racial politics while quietly creating a winner’s circle of executives and inheritors of vast fortunes. And it’s the loyalty of the business class, not of neo-Nazi street brawlers, that ultimately ensures Trump’s position of power and is in turn receiving its due rewards.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/14/16139440/trump-racism-plutoc
racy


45 seconds: What Trump Could Have Said After Charlottesville



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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:35 AM

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I never understood why there are/were so many statues of Confederate generals and leaders across the South. Fuckers lost, beaten by a drunk (Grant) and a sociopath (Sherman).

And what's with all that love of the Confederate flag today? That flag, which flew so proudly over Vicksburg while the people there were reduced to having to eat rats. That flag, which flew so proudly over Richmond while the entire city was being destroyed by Union artillery as the people there, including President Jeff Davis, fled for their lives. PROUD OF WHAT??

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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J DHS, hmmm. When did this happen? The declaration of Antifa.
Click on the link. June 2017.


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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I just finished watching an interview with a known left-leaning producer/filmmaker and he said something very interesting; that all this is merely a distraction to the real action going on behind the scenes.

He said, that while the media focuses in on Trump's little side show; he, Bannon and company are slowly dismantling the democratic process with mass changes in rules and regs in various federal departments.

What does this even mean? The President is in charge of the Executive Branch. As such, he is responsible for carrying out laws passed by Congress, such as the Clean Air Act.

In order to do this, agencies - empowered with the ability to write laws ("regulations") of their own are set into motion. There is nothing INHERENTLY "democratic" about rules and regs ... no elected body to appeal to. Now, before regulations are set in place, there ARE public hearings. These hearings are designed to SLOW UP the imposition of regulations. Does the author mean that public hearings are no longer being held? That rules and regs, duly authorized by Congress and the President, are either being wiped out or not being enforced?

I hate to say it, but that simply reflects the one-way, biased nature of rule-making and rule-enforcement. Business has had such a stranglehold on rule development that the path towards delaying, blunting, or setting aside rules and regs is a well-worn path. The process of responding to concerned-citizen groups is much less certain, and requires a specific lawsuit from an interest group: NRDC, EDF, PPNA, ACLU etc. It's always been about money, and it's not about Trump.

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* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THE DRATTED DOUBLE!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:33 AM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

J DHS, hmmm. When did this happen? The declaration of Antifa.
Click on the link. June 2017.


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* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

Like NJ is somehow smart. They elected Christie. He probably did that as a favor to his fascist pals.

Let's take a look at the link, shall we?

" On March 28, a small fight occurred between Antifa members and supporters of the US President during a rally in Seaside Heights (Ocean County). Because of advance publicity about the event on social media, local and state law enforcement officers were able to keep altercations to a minimum."

"Supporters of the US president?" While it's true that all Nazis support Herr Cheeto, it wasn't just "Trump supporters."

It was Nazis, several of whom stabbed people.

See? That's your problem. You believe what you want to believe, but lack the intellect to understand facts. That's why you support and defend Nazis.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


REAVERFAN: WHATEVER.

You know, you display the same naked and blind motivation that any terrorist would use to excuse his/her actions.


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And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I hate to say it, but that simply reflects the one-way, biased nature of rule-making and rule-enforcement. Business has had such a stranglehold on rule development that the path towards delaying, blunting, or setting aside rules and regs is a well-worn path. The process of responding to concerned-citizen groups is much less certain. It;s all about money, and it's not about Trump.

Wrong, Signym. It is about Trump. This President's people write the rules. The President's people will eventually be hired by the industries they rule over. Trump's people are being very kind and loving to those industries now. When they leave government, Trump's people will be paid back for their government service to industries and banks:

https://qz.com/1053903

US president Donald Trump’s push to revise rules on banker bonuses is just one of the many steps his administration is taking toward revising regulations that were designed to prevent another financial meltdown. From rules on banks’ trading desks to remuneration, such rollbacks could finally give Wall Street a reason to cheer after other parts of Trump’s agenda have stumbled.

Several agencies are reviewing restrictions on banks making speculative trading bets with the benefit of customer money, known as the Volcker rule, according to the Wall Street Journal. A requirement for brokers to put customer interests ahead of their own may also be delayed for 18 months (financial firms say the overhaul could open them up to a deluge of lawsuits). And a 500-page regulation that would restrict Wall Street bonuses is probably dead.

Many of the regulations are part of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act, which was passed by the Obama administration in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis. . . .

A heavy legislative rewrite of financial rules seems unlikely, given the federal government’s inability to rework other controversial issues like health care. But agencies and regulators have some scope to water down financial regulations by altering how they’re implemented. This time, Wall Street could actually get some of what it wants.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I hate to say it, but that simply reflects the one-way, biased nature of rule-making and rule-enforcement. Business has had such a stranglehold on rule development that the path towards delaying, blunting, or setting aside rules and regs is a well-worn path. The process of responding to concerned-citizen groups is much less certain. It;s all about money, and it's not about Trump.

Wrong, Signym. It is about Trump. This President's people write the rules. The President's people will eventually be hired by the industries they rule over. Trump's people are being very kind and loving to those industries now. When they leave government, Trump's people will be paid back for their government service to industries and banks:



Show me one example of how Barack Obama was any better for the working class.

Nope... not about Trump. At least not specifically. It's all about the power elite as a group and a class.

Same old shit, different figurehead.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:14 AM

REAVERFAN


Just look at the pics of the Alt right Nazis who showed up to Charlottesville.

Typically, they are young, 20-30-somethings. They all dress and look alike. They are weak individually, but feel strong when marching together with their tiki torches. The majority have never successfully dated or had consensual sex with any woman. They don't have girlfriends or active social lives.

They don't have any friends except for their fellow Nazis, most of whom they only know online. Many of them have sex with each other, but keep it “on the down low.”

They don't have college degrees or good jobs. Their IQs are just below average (like police). They didn't do well in school and never made a lot of friends. They are loners, except for when they get together to terrorize communites.

They're the same types who skinheads recruit: Lonely, immature boys who aren't very bright and feel alienated. The Nazi cult pays attention to them and makes them feel special, like they're part of something. They finally feel important.

Half of them would quit tomorrow if a woman would just sleep with them. But, they hate women so much, that will never happen. Those women would sleep with a black man before they'd sleep with a racist. This makes the lonely Nazis even angrier.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:43 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Show me one example of how Barack Obama was any better for the working class.

Nope... not about Trump. At least not specifically. It's all about the power elite as a group and a class.

Same old shit, different figurehead.

Have you seen the movie Hell or High Water ? Chris Pine plays a Texas bank robber. Unlike you and millions of other Americans, he’s not gonna wait for Washington DC to rescue him from his money troubles.

At the end of the movie, retired Texas Ranger Jeff Bridges has a strong suspicion that Chris Pines is the bank robber he was hunting before he retired. Chris Pines gives him a little speech on the front porch of the Pine ranch, confirming the suspicion: “I've been poor my whole life. So were my parents, their parents before them. It's like a disease… passing from generation to generation, becomes a sickness. That's what it is. Infects every person you know...but not my boys. Not anymore.”

I could explain how Chris Pines can get the money he needs to stop foreclosure on his oil producing West Texas property from the well drillers. I could give Chris Pines lessons on how to negotiate with the power elite, but it is wasted on boneheads. Pines already knew how to rob and kill bank tellers so he stayed with what he knew. He could also have done nothing, just waited for his money to run out and the bank to foreclose, but then there wouldn’t be a movie. Nobody is interested in that particularly movie about doing nothing but whining about how unfair the powerful are. It’s an on-going movie starring millions of Americans.

6stringJoker, Washington DC will not come to your rescue. The Republicans would never allow it. You don’t have to take Chris Pines’ example, either, and rob banks. Be smarter than a movie antihero. Be smarter than the typical poor person doing nothing but waiting for death. There is some middle ground between waiting for help that can never come because of Republicans and going on a bank robbery/murder rampage. I hope you are energetic enough to find that middle ground and stop blaming Democrats for not bringing another New Deal, eighty-five years after the previous New Deal. Or at least blame Republicans for no more New Deals.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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