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Santorum addresses Huckabee gaffe, then lies

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Friday, January 24, 2014 9:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) said that the government shouldn't help women who can't control their "libido or their reproductive system" by providing co-pay-free birth control and that Democrats are encouraging women to be "victims of their gender."
Quote:

Huckabee said Democrats rely on women believing they are weaker than men and in need of government handouts, including the contraception mandate in Obamacare.

"If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it," Huckabee said. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/01/23/huckab
ee-dems-think-women-cant-control-their-libido
/



Even Frothy Santorum thinks he goofed:
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Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (R) said Mike Huckabee would probably phrase his “libido” comment about birth control differently if he had a do-over.

Santorum had told The Hill earlier in the week there is “no question” Republicans have trouble compassionately communicating their position on abortion. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/196312-santorum-hucka
bee-would-probably-phrase-libido-comment



Unfortunately, he also said: “That's one of the things that's most frustrating is there isn't a lot of disagreement on access to contraception,” he said. “Whether the government should pay for it, there is a disagreement.”

Which is a flat-out lie. It's right there in their platform: "A plank in the Republican platform upholds the "life begins at conception" foundation of "personhood", which would ban the most commonly-used forms of contraception such as the Pill and IUDs" ( http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/2012/02/06/mitt-romne
y-and-the-gops-war-on-birth-control
).

If the definition of legal personhood is changed so that it begins when sperm meets an egg, hormonal birth control or barrier devices that prevent zygotes from implanting in the uterine wall could become illegal, making using an IUD tantamount to murder. Yet some 40 percent of House Republicans and a quarter of their allies in the Senate back bills that would do just that ( http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.374:).

Republican candidates and others have spoken out against contraception. Frothy himself said “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.” ( http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/2012/01/06/rick-santo
rum-even-opposes-birth-control
)

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Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:34 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Huckabee's 'libido' comment chilling for women

Former Arkansas Governor and presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee sparked outrage across the country this week for his offensive remarks about women and birth control. But the real problem isn't what he says -- it's what he and too many other politicians believe, and it's the policies they would advance if they have the chance.

In a speech to the Republican National Committee, Huckabee said that it was wrong to give women access to no-co-pay birth control under the Affordable Care Act -- that by doing so, women were being told "they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of government." Of the thousands of types of medical care covered by insurance companies -- somehow he and a lot of other politicians have focused like a laser on birth control -- on taking coverage away from women.

Indeed, Huckabee's remarks were no "gaffe," as too many pundits have called them. This is a speech he's made before, and his remarks are a look inside the playbook of politicians who appear to have no idea how birth control works and why it's so important to millions of women as a basic, preventive health care. They ignore the fact that women use birth control for a whole host of medical reasons -- and that's their business, not Mike Huckabee's.

In Huckabee's vision, every boss in America would be empowered to decide whether his or her female employees should have access to birth control the way they do for any other prescription medication.

Huckabee is joining a battle being waged cross the country.

Over 40 for-profit companies have filed lawsuits against the birth control benefit of the Affordable Care Act, and the Supreme Court will hear arguments in two of those cases in March. If the court rules in favor of the for-profit companies, employers for the first time ever could have the right to dictate to their employees the type of health care they may have access to.

Meanwhile, 20 state legislatures have moved to exempt certain employers and insurers from allowing their employees access to birth control without a co-pay. In Kansas, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to fill a prescription for birth control if they have a moral objection -- even if there's no other pharmacist in the area that a woman can go to instead. And while the states are individually waging separate battles, on the national front the U.S. House of Representatives approved an amendment a few months ago to roll back the birth control benefit.

The politicians behind these moves disregard how important birth control is for women and families. It allows women to take control of their health and economic security and to take personal responsibility for their family planning decisions. Many women also need birth control for medical reasons. For example, it can help relieve painful menstrual cramps, and help avert infertility by addressing the symptoms of endometriosis.

Access to birth control is also an economic issue. Until now, the cost has been expensive, with many women paying an average of $600 a year -- but sometimes much more -- for contraceptive protection. The Affordable Care Act enables 27 million women to receive their prescription birth control without a co-pay. Birth control also allows women, who make up nearly two-thirds of minimum-wage workers, to remain in the labor force.

For a woman working for minimum wage at a retail store, or for tips at a restaurant, the birth control benefit is tremendously important. For many women, it means the difference between taking birth control regularly and not being able to -- between getting pregnant and not getting pregnant.

As we look toward the midterm elections later this year, it's increasingly clear that access to birth control will be on the ballot. Mike Huckabee's remarks this week underscore what's at stake -- and why women will not allow out-of-touch politicians to take us back to the 1950s. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/24/opinion/richards-huckabee-comment/index.
html?hpt=hp_bn7



I disagree that it's not a gaffe; it's a gaffe insofar as the right wing doesn't want it SAID, despite it being something with which they agree.

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Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:53 PM

AURAPTOR

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While the pill should be made widely available, it is by no means a "right". The govt has no business telling Ins companies that they MUST provide free birth control,or any birth control, for that matter. Nor should they provide for viagra, cialas, etc... It's a free market issue, and nothing else.

Huckabee should have just said that, and moved on.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.


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Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Huckabee has no problem with what he said:
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Mike Huckabee says he is mystified by the liberal criticism of his remarks on women, contraception and libido, which erupted yesterday as the former Arkansas governor actively weighs a presidential campaign.

Huckabee, saying that he has an “outspoken wife” and appointed more women in Arkansas than any other governor, told me: “If people read the actual words I said in context, everyone who wants to understand it will.”

The Huckabee controversy comes at a time when Republican Party officials are urging candidates to be more sensitive in their language about women. As a potential candidate, Huckabee’s remarks could appeal to the evangelical wing of his party. But as a commentator, he has put himself in the middle of a media storm. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/24/huckabee-rips-critics-libid
o-comments
/



Yup, FauxNews got it: "everyone who wants to understand it will". His right-wing base "understands" what he's saying; sensible Republicans understand it but don't want it said publicly, everyone else understands what he means too.


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Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:10 AM

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It's only a media storm because the media wants it to be one.

Leftist say the darnedest things, but seldom ever get called on it.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:41 PM

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:43 PM

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" What difference, at this point, does it make ? "


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.



http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards
As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies

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