REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Kentucky Governor's Hardball Interview Re: Obamacare

POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Monday, October 7, 2013 15:45
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 1432
PAGE 1 of 1

Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:01 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Regarding the debate and rhetoric surrounding Obamacare (the ACA), I'm posting an interview by Chris Matthews of Hardball with Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear in which he defends the ACA or Obamacare:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3036697/#53189399

No matter what side you approach the debate over health care, one thing is clear: you have to investigate and research before passing judgment. Governor Beshear did just that. The numbers don't lie.

As to the glitches facing enrollment, yes, when you have millions clamoring for health care at the same time that's going to happen. You guys who loved the launching of Dr. Horrible a couple of years back can attest to that end. Do the glitches mean that Obamacare is wrong for the people? What about the state of Massachusetts where Romneycare is currently the law of the state? Are they wrong? Does it work only for them, as Romney has suggested?

P.S. I was watching Meet the Press this morning, and Samantha Guthry put both Jack Lew and Rand Paul's feet to the fire regarding the Shutdown. I will post that later today. It was, to say the least, interesting viewing.


SGG

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:07 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


That deserves reading. From Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear:
Quote:

SUNDAY morning news programs identify Kentucky as the red state with two high-profile Republican senators who claim their rhetoric represents an electorate that gave President Obama only about a third of its presidential vote in 2012.

So why then is Kentucky — more quickly than almost any other state — moving to implement the Affordable Care Act?

Because there’s a huge disconnect between the rank partisanship of national politics and the outlook of governors whose job it is to help beleaguered families, strengthen work forces, attract companies and create a balanced budget.

It’s no coincidence that numerous governors — not just Democrats like me but also Republicans like Jan Brewer of Arizona, John Kasich of Ohio and Rick Snyder of Michigan — see the Affordable Care Act not as a referendum on President Obama but as a tool for historic change.

That is especially true in Kentucky, a state where residents’ collective health has long been horrendous. The state ranks among the worst, if not the worst, in almost every major health category, including smoking, cancer deaths, preventable hospitalizations, premature death, heart disease and diabetes.

We’re making progress, but incremental improvements are not enough. We need big solutions with the potential for transformational change.

The Affordable Care Act is one of those solutions.

For the first time, we will make affordable health insurance available to every single citizen in the state. Right now, 640,000 people in Kentucky are uninsured. That’s almost one in six Kentuckians.

Lack of health coverage puts their health and financial security at risk.

They roll the dice and pray they don’t get sick. They choose between food and medicine. They ignore checkups that would catch serious conditions early. They put off doctor’s appointments, hoping a condition turns out to be nothing. And they live knowing that bankruptcy is just one bad diagnosis away.

Furthermore, their children go long periods without checkups that focus on immunizations, preventive care and vision and hearing tests. If they have diabetes, asthma or infected gums, their conditions remain untreated and unchecked.

For Kentucky as a whole, the negative impact is similar but larger — jacked-up costs, decreased worker productivity, lower quality of life, depressed school attendance and a poor image.

The Affordable Care Act will address these weaknesses.

Some 308,000 of Kentucky’s uninsured — mostly the working poor — will be covered when we increase Medicaid eligibility guidelines to 138 percent of the federal poverty level.

PricewaterhouseCoopers and the Urban Studies Institute at the University of Louisville concluded that expanding Medicaid would inject $15.6 billion into Kentucky’s economy over the next eight years, create almost 17,000 new jobs, have an $802.4 million positive budget impact (by transferring certain expenditures from the state to the federal government, among other things), protect hospitals from cuts in indigent care funding and shield businesses from up to $48 million in annual penalties.

In short, we couldn’t afford not to do it.

The other 332,000 uninsured Kentuckians will be able to access affordable coverage — most with a discount — through the Health Benefit Exchange, the online insurance marketplace we named Kynect: Kentucky’s Healthcare Connection.

Kentucky is the only Southern state both expanding Medicaid and operating a state-based exchange, and we remain on target to meet the Oct. 1 deadline to open Kynect with the support of a call center that is providing some 100 jobs. Having been the first state-based exchange to complete the readiness review with the United States Department of Health and Human Services, we hope to become the first one to be certified.

Frankly, we can’t implement the Affordable Care Act fast enough.

As for naysayers, I’m offended by their partisan gamesmanship, as they continue to pour time, money and energy into overturning or defunding the Affordable Care Act. It’s shameful that these critics haven’t invested that same level of energy into trying to improve the health of our citizens.

They insist that the Affordable Care Act will never work — when in fact a similar approach put into effect in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney, then the governor, is working.

So, to those more worried about political power than Kentucky’s families, I say, “Get over it.”

The Affordable Care Act was approved by Congress and sanctioned by the Supreme Court. It is the law of the land.

Get over it ... and get out of the way so I can help my people. Here in Kentucky, we cannot afford to waste another day or another life. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/27/opinion/my-state-needs-obamacare-now
.html?_r=0




NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:11 PM

CHRISISALL


Thanks guys, good reading.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:09 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Bravo Niki, thanks for posting.

Here's another way of looking at this:

The Governor of Kentucky represents all the people of the State, whereas Paul and McConnell represent the constituents within their district. How many of those 640,000 live within their districts?

Paul suggested that 70% of the people of Kentucky opposed Obamacare. If that were the case then why is it that they are leading to charge in health care reform. Curious, isn't it?


SGG

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
That deserves reading. From Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear:
Quote:

SUNDAY morning news programs identify Kentucky as the red state with two high-profile Republican senators who claim their rhetoric represents an electorate that gave President Obama only about a third of its presidential vote in 2012.

So why then is Kentucky — more quickly than almost any other state — moving to implement the Affordable Care Act?

Because there’s a huge disconnect between the rank partisanship of national politics and the outlook of governors whose job it is to help beleaguered families, strengthen work forces, attract companies and create a balanced budget.

It’s no coincidence that numerous governors — not just Democrats like me but also Republicans like Jan Brewer of Arizona, John Kasich of Ohio and Rick Snyder of Michigan — see the Affordable Care Act not as a referendum on President Obama but as a tool for historic change.

That is especially true in Kentucky, a state where residents’ collective health has long been horrendous. The state ranks among the worst, if not the worst, in almost every major health category, including smoking, cancer deaths, preventable hospitalizations, premature death, heart disease and diabetes.

We’re making progress, but incremental improvements are not enough. We need big solutions with the potential for transformational change.

The Affordable Care Act is one of those solutions.

For the first time, we will make affordable health insurance available to every single citizen in the state. Right now, 640,000 people in Kentucky are uninsured. That’s almost one in six Kentuckians.

Lack of health coverage puts their health and financial security at risk.

They roll the dice and pray they don’t get sick. They choose between food and medicine. They ignore checkups that would catch serious conditions early. They put off doctor’s appointments, hoping a condition turns out to be nothing. And they live knowing that bankruptcy is just one bad diagnosis away.

Furthermore, their children go long periods without checkups that focus on immunizations, preventive care and vision and hearing tests. If they have diabetes, asthma or infected gums, their conditions remain untreated and unchecked.

For Kentucky as a whole, the negative impact is similar but larger — jacked-up costs, decreased worker productivity, lower quality of life, depressed school attendance and a poor image.

The Affordable Care Act will address these weaknesses.

Some 308,000 of Kentucky’s uninsured — mostly the working poor — will be covered when we increase Medicaid eligibility guidelines to 138 percent of the federal poverty level.

PricewaterhouseCoopers and the Urban Studies Institute at the University of Louisville concluded that expanding Medicaid would inject $15.6 billion into Kentucky’s economy over the next eight years, create almost 17,000 new jobs, have an $802.4 million positive budget impact (by transferring certain expenditures from the state to the federal government, among other things), protect hospitals from cuts in indigent care funding and shield businesses from up to $48 million in annual penalties.

In short, we couldn’t afford not to do it.

The other 332,000 uninsured Kentuckians will be able to access affordable coverage — most with a discount — through the Health Benefit Exchange, the online insurance marketplace we named Kynect: Kentucky’s Healthcare Connection.

Kentucky is the only Southern state both expanding Medicaid and operating a state-based exchange, and we remain on target to meet the Oct. 1 deadline to open Kynect with the support of a call center that is providing some 100 jobs. Having been the first state-based exchange to complete the readiness review with the United States Department of Health and Human Services, we hope to become the first one to be certified.

Frankly, we can’t implement the Affordable Care Act fast enough.

As for naysayers, I’m offended by their partisan gamesmanship, as they continue to pour time, money and energy into overturning or defunding the Affordable Care Act. It’s shameful that these critics haven’t invested that same level of energy into trying to improve the health of our citizens.

They insist that the Affordable Care Act will never work — when in fact a similar approach put into effect in Massachusetts by Mitt Romney, then the governor, is working.

So, to those more worried about political power than Kentucky’s families, I say, “Get over it.”

The Affordable Care Act was approved by Congress and sanctioned by the Supreme Court. It is the law of the land.

Get over it ... and get out of the way so I can help my people. Here in Kentucky, we cannot afford to waste another day or another life. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/27/opinion/my-state-needs-obamacare-now
.html?_r=0





NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:17 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


The zit is correct; I stand amended.

Of course, Rand Paul doesn't recognize the Supreme Court...





And Mitch McConnell's "single most important thing" was to get rid of Obama, not the welfare of the American people...



So I wouldn't be crowing about them, if'n I were him.

(And yes, they are direct quotes: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/28/news/la-ol-supreme-court-rand-
paul20120628
, http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/when-did-mcconne
ll-say-he-wanted-to-make-obama-a-one-term-president/2012/09/24/79fd5cd8-0696-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html
)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:38 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
"The Governor of Kentucky represents all the people of the State, whereas Paul and McConnell represent the constituents within their district." And therein lies the problem with the House of Representatives at present.




Paul and McConnell are Senators, they represent "the State", not little districts.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, October 7, 2013 3:45 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I stand corrected as well. Thanks for posting.

Now, it begs the question: Why would the Governor of Kentucky sign up for Obamacare when it is so unpopular and supposedly 70% of the people hate it?

In California, a person making $18,000 a year would pay the ridiculously expensive amount of, get this, $39.00 a month under Obamacare. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the country is going to hell in a handbasket. The ACA is going to ruin this country, yes indeed.

P.S. In Massachusetts it is working like gangbusters, has it been repealed yet?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
"The Governor of Kentucky represents all the people of the State, whereas Paul and McConnell represent the constituents within their district." And therein lies the problem with the House of Representatives at present.




Paul and McConnell are Senators, they represent "the State", not little districts.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Scientific American Claims It Is "Misinformation" That There Are Just Two Sexes
Sun, April 28, 2024 02:45 - 20 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Sun, April 28, 2024 02:14 - 6308 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Sun, April 28, 2024 02:09 - 3573 posts
Russian losses in Ukraine
Sun, April 28, 2024 02:03 - 1016 posts
The Thread of Court Cases Trump Is Winning
Sat, April 27, 2024 21:37 - 20 posts
Case against Sidney Powell, 2020 case lawyer, is dismissed
Sat, April 27, 2024 21:29 - 13 posts
I'm surprised there's not an inflation thread yet
Sat, April 27, 2024 21:28 - 745 posts
Slate: I Changed My Mind About Kids and Phones. I Hope Everyone Else Does, Too.
Sat, April 27, 2024 21:19 - 3 posts
14 Tips To Reduce Tears and Remove Smells When Cutting Onions
Sat, April 27, 2024 21:08 - 9 posts
Russian War Crimes In Ukraine
Sat, April 27, 2024 19:27 - 15 posts
"Feminism" really means more Femtacular than you at EVERYTHING.
Sat, April 27, 2024 19:25 - 66 posts
Cry Baby Trump
Sat, April 27, 2024 19:21 - 79 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL