Even MORE disrespect for our troops by our amateur Commander OF Chief. by AURaptor

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Jets and Giants suck anyway.

Yeah, and no one cares.

But the academy football teams at least get to play. I guess Barry's trying to do something to stay on the good side of the troops. At least those state side.

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Friday, October 4, 2013 9:29 PM

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I guess Barry's trying to do something to stay on the good side of the troops. At least those state side.

He should do a lot more, because as you know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as Obama has, they would throw themselves on their swords.

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Friday, October 4, 2013 10:18 PM

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{Obama} should do a lot more, because as you know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as Obama has, they would throw themselves on their swords.

Offering peace, Republican House Speaker John Boehner suggested that Obama give his wife and children as hostages. Obama countered with the idea that Boehner could hold Boehner hostage and cut off a finger or toe for every day Obama refuses to surrender to Boehner's numerous demands. Boehner was offended when Obama suggested what to amputate on day 21 and reacted by continuing to hold America hostage. "How can I deal with such unreason and disrespect for Our Troops! Why won't Obama negotiate in good faith?" wept an enraged Boehner. www.theonion.com/articles/tea-party-leaders-announce-support-for-deal-
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Saturday, October 5, 2013 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I guess Barry's trying to do something to stay on the good side of the troops. At least those state side.

He should do a lot more, because as you know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as Obama has, they would throw themselves on their swords.

Ooh, well played !

I wonder why the Operative didn't follow suit on his own self. I mean, he didn't exactly keep secrets too well, now did he ? Failed in a colossal way, not to mention got all manner of fine Alliance troops AND ships whacked by the Reaver fleet...

All Dr. Mathias did was let Simon waltz in and take River. The Operative allowed for the secret of Miranda to get out to every gorram planet in the system... but I digress.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:21 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I guess Barry's trying to do something to stay on the good side of the troops. At least those state side.

He should do a lot more, because as you know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as Obama has, they would throw themselves on their swords.

Ooh, well played !

It's a moot point because we don't live in civilized times. We live in a time when a President can verbally assault his political opponents 365 days a year with the most devisive, hateful, and childish rhetoric ever spoken. This gutter punk president also uses the IRS as a political weapon, while the ass-licking press applauds his every passing of gas.

As to the Operative and Miranda..... Think of the Operative as Eric Holder and Miranda as Fast and Furious. No one cares, no one even wants to know. Found "in contempt of Congress", yet he continues to have a job, and continues to prosecute and litigate based solely on his boss's political vendettas.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 6:58 AM

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It's a moot point because we don't live in civilized times. We live in a time when a President can verbally assault his political opponents 365 days a year with the most devisive, hateful, and childish rhetoric ever spoken.

His demeanor and language are very un-Presidential, and his minions are eager to follow suit.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 8:21 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's a moot point because we don't live in civilized times. We live in a time when a President can verbally assault his political opponents 365 days a year with the most divisive, hateful, and childish rhetoric ever spoken. This gutter punk president also uses the IRS as a political weapon, while the ass-licking press applauds his every passing of gas.

Until you post the Youtube videos of Obama as proof, I'll believe you are writing satire.
"Petty, Shortsighted Americans Outraged At Legislature That Represents Them Perfectly"

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 8:57 AM

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The problem is that Americans don't agree w/ the politicians when they tell us they're doing work WE want, when in fact, it's nothing of the sort.

It's what THEY want, and they're ignoring who sent them there in the first place.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:04 PM

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Yup, Second; right on the money. Given the kind of truly horrific things we've seen thrown at Obama, to say HE's been guilty of "divisive, hateful, and childish rhetoric ever spoken" can't be anything but satire. Or sarcasm. But they'll keep repeating it, in deadly earnest, 'cuz it's what they're programmed to do...blame the other guy for what you yourself do.

Jong ceased making sense some time ago, I think he drops acid or something, from how he views the world.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:14 PM

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The Onion got it (and gets my prize for the first guffaw of the morning), in one sentence: "Incensed citizens told reporters it was infuriating to see elected officials becoming divided by uninformed biases, long-standing grudges and pathetic partisan differences, and noted this sort of conduct, which exactly mirrored their own, was absolutely unacceptable."

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:31 PM

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Yup, Second; right on the money. Given the kind of truly horrific things we've seen thrown at Obama, to say HE's been guilty of "divisive, hateful, and childish rhetoric ever spoken" can't be anything but satire. Or sarcasm. But they'll keep repeating it, in deadly earnest, 'cuz it's what they're programmed to do...blame the other guy for what you yourself do.

Jong ceased making sense some time ago, I think he drops acid or something, from how he views the world.

Spin it any way you want, Niki, Barry IS the most arrogant, divisive, unattached and disengaged President - E V E R.

He's not even a " real " American , in the sense he grew up understanding and appreciating the significance that makes this country special. He loathes it, to be honest. That's what drives him.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Spin it any way you want, Niki, Barry IS the most arrogant, divisive, unattached and disengaged President - E V E R.

He's not even a " real " American , in the sense he grew up understanding and appreciating the significance that makes this country special. He loathes it, to be honest. That's what drives him.

Your say-so is not enough. You need proof of what you're saying about Obama ( youtube video of Obama is proof, as are quotes from his books ) else you will appear to be a simple, unhinged partisan.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 3:14 PM

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Onion videos don't make much of an impact either.

Most of us are adults here, and can see what's going on. What is proof for me probably won't register for others, simply because of blatant partisanship.

Those who know D.C., and have been there for years and years, know. Believe what you want.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 3:38 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
What is proof for me probably won't register for others, simply because of blatant partisanship.

Those who know D.C., and have been there for years and years, know. Believe what you want.

Please, please try to find Obama video proving your point. I can find plenty of video of Senator Ted Cruz, Canadian-Cuban, "understanding and appreciating the significance that makes this country special."
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Saturday, October 5, 2013 6:51 PM

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He's not even a " real " American , in the sense he grew up understanding and appreciating the significance that makes this country special. He loathes it, to be honest. That's what drives him.

Oh so the only real americans are those who are brought up as you were and share your views?

And here's me thinking that the US was a country of diversity.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:26 PM

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And here's me thinking that the US was a country of diversity.

Welcome to the real world, Neo.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:47 PM

Wow and I didn't even take the blue pill, or was it the red pill?

Who cares - Keanu was hot.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:52 PM

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Yes, Magons, the only "Real Americans" are those who were brought up as he was and share his views--he's a picture perfect illustration of right wing mentality. The rest of us should "just go back" to where we came from.

He's had that tripe about "arrogant, divisive, unattached and disengaged" drilled into him from FauxNews, right-wing radio and the Koch Propaganda Machine, they've programmed him beautifully so now all he has to do is spout it, along with others like zit who are equally incapable of thinking for themselves and terrified of getting their "information" from anyplace else.

The simple fact that the majority of Americans, in virtually every poll, blame the Republicans for this mess means nothing. The fact that the majority of Americans, after four years of President Obama, elected him AGAIN means nothing...the majority of Americans aren't "real" Americans in his (and their) book, y'see.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 8:42 PM

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Barry IS the most arrogant, divisive, unattached and disengaged President - E V E R.

Wow, you sound like, yanno, a Valley girl. I mean, it's like the lamest sentence E V E R.

"Ever" is a long time. In fact, "ever" isn't even over yet, so you're not making sense, strictly speaking. I have a couple of my own to toss out there....

Herbert Hoover. Nice man, just followed the trickle down theory and triggered the Great Depression.

Richard Nixon, used the IRS as a tool against political opponents, spied on dissenters extensively (and illegally), and used break-ins and theft to smother political rivals.

George W Bush, presided over the most destructive act of terrorism in the USA, invaded two nations that had nothing to do with said terrorism, expanded electronic surveillance illegally by monitoring all communcations routed through central AT&T (and other) servers, expanded Medicare to cover drugs without bargaining for best prices, and blew a more-than-budget-sized hole through the Federal budget.

U Grant. Nice guy, couldn't control the corruption and graft in his own party.

Bill Clinton. Signed NAFTA, DMCA, DOMA, and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act (which allowed Enron), and Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (which repealed the Galls Steagal Act, setting the stage for the 2008 financial collapse). Not too bad at selling people down-river!

John Tyler, noble defender of slavery, and Millard Fillmore, noble appeaser of slave-owners, and Franklin Pierce, noble epxander of slavery.

Warren G Harding- like Grant, a personally nice man who let his friends plunder the Treasury.

Lincoln. Yeah, I know... freed the slaves, but he should have then let the southern states go their own route, because we've been yoked to those idiots ever since.

So I think Obama would have a run for his money when compared to some of these other guys.

You need a sense of history, rappy.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:01 PM

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"You need a sense of history, rappy". Among many, many other things. But history has no meaning; this is what he's told, so this is what he parrots, simple as that. There's no thinking involved, much less "history"...that's for those who aren't Real Americans. You know that.

(Nonetheless, I appreciated the dissection, thank you. :o)

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 10:40 PM

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Bill Clinton. Signed NAFTA, DMCA, DOMA, and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act (which allowed Enron), and Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (which repealed the Galls Steagal Act, setting the stage for the 2008 financial collapse). Not too bad at selling people down-river!

Signy, how DARE you be critical of a Democrat?? You make it seem like you have some balance in your views! You need to take the rappyroute & tow the party line no matter how fucking stupid it is! How else can we perpetuate mindless stupidity?

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 10:52 PM

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What the hell did pink shoes Abortion Barbie prattle on for most of the time when SHE was doing her little filibuster ? Please. Cruz spent FAR more time detailing the substantive points of O-care and Govt, and you focus on a few lines from how many hours he was up there ?

Pathetic.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 10:54 PM

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He's not even a " real " American , in the sense he grew up understanding and appreciating the significance that makes this country special. He loathes it, to be honest. That's what drives him.

Oh so the only real americans are those who are brought up as you were and share your views?

And here's me thinking that the US was a country of diversity.

Funny. Dinesh D'Souza says 'Hi'.

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:07 PM

AU, that was great, LOL!! You continue to link without having a substantive understanding of your source with which to support your (stupid) views! Bravo!
"The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 ... the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the non-profit sector and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world."
Opinions rule! Facts not so much!
VIVA LA DORK MENTALITY!!!

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:31 PM

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Funny. Dinesh D'Souza says 'Hi'.

No way D'Souza is a Republican partisan. His books are the proof about evil Obama.

There is absolutely no reason to doubt the fact checking done by Dinesh D'Souza's publisher, Regnery, with the slogan "Great conservative books, great conservative authors." www.regnery.com
No reason to doubt D'Souza's facts since he has worked at the Republican's American Enterprise Institute, Heritage Foundation, Hoover Institution, and Policy Review. Republican institutes never make up stories about Democrats because that would be against their fine ethics. He also served as a policy adviser to President Ronald Reagan, but strictly non-political advise, never how to write propaganda.

And Ted Cruz has a youtube channel devoted to his insightful wisdom. He can't stop talking, talking, talking, talking ...

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Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:52 PM

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AU, that was great, LOL!! You continue to link without having a substantive understanding of your source with which to support your (stupid) views! Bravo!
"The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 ... the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the non-profit sector and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world."
Opinions rule! Facts not so much!
VIVA LA DORK MENTALITY!!!

Sorry. I saw his movie. Did you ?

The source is solid.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry. I saw his movie. Did you ?

The source is solid.

http://variety.com/2012/film/reviews/2016-obama-s-america-1117947988/
Conservative author and political commentator Dinesh D’Souza attempts to distill and expand upon the theories, investigations and accusations in his bestselling tome “The Roots of Obama’s Rage” with the somewhat less inflammatorily titled “2016: Obama’s America.” The slickly produced and aggressively provocative docu conceivably could turn a tidy profit through limited theatrical runs and in various homescreen platforms by passionately preaching to the converted.

Co-directed and co-scripted by D’Souza and producer John Sullivan (“Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”), “2016" employs a brisk montage of snappy visuals, re-enactments, talking-head interviews and first-person commentary to render President Obama as a clear and present danger whose socialist governing philosophy has been indelibly colored by radical influences ranging from his African-born father (a rabid anti-colonialist) to the notorious Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

For the bulk of its running time, the pic comes off as a cavalcade of conspiracy theories, psycho-politico conjectures and incendiary labeling — “breathtakingly anti-America” is only one of the epithets tossed about like so much confetti — as D’Souza and assorted interviewees question Obama’s patriotism, deny his support of Israel, decry his Big Government programs, and generally recycle claims, charges and dire warnings D’Souza (and others) have previously promulgated in books, lectures, op-ed screeds and various Fox News guest appearances.

To his credit, D’Souza pointedly avoids the extremes of birther fanatics — early on, he announces Obama was born in Honolulu, and that’s that.

And while it’s highly unlikely that anyone predisposed to championing Obama would be won over by the sound and fury here, there’s no gainsaying the value of “2016" as a sort of Cliffs Notes precis of the conservative case against the re-election of our current U.S. president (whose second term, it should be noted, actually would end in January 2017).

Among the interviewees, conservative Shelby Steele — who is, like Obama, the product of a mixed-race marriage — stands out by sounding, if not entirely convincing, then intelligently plausible as he postulates that many white Americans voted for Obama in 2008 primarily to prove to themselves that they weren’t racist. It’s one of the few propositions espoused in the pic that even Obama supporters might be willing to chew over as food for thought. On the other hand, perhaps it should be taken with a grain of salt: Steele — author of a 2007 book titled “A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can’t Win — gives short shrift to the equally credible scenario that many other whites didn’t vote for Obama primarily because of his color.

The deft editing and overall technical polish — as well as a generous travel budget — go a long way toward making the pic an attention-grabber. During one-on-one interviews, however, D’Souza occasionally undermines the seriousness of his intent by including reaction shots of himself responding with overly vigorous nods of agreement, which have the rather unfortunate effect of recalling comic shtick common to segments of “The Daily Show.”

Many more reviews of D'Souza movie at www.metacritic.com/movie/2016-obamas-america

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:49 AM

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Second - Nothing you posted was remotely worth my time. I know what I saw, and read. D'Souza's work, while not flawless, showed a great deal of truth about Obama which the MSM refused to address.

They even admitted as such, here -

You can post paragraphs and pages of Left wing dogma till the cows ( or pigs ) come home. It does't matter. You can't alter the facts.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:03 AM

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Opinions rule! Facts not so much!

Hey, the motto of the right - "never let facts get in the way of an ideological stance"

Obama is an Islamist Sleeper Agent and you know it Chris.
Forget acts of terror, his aim is to bring down america by healthcare. That's right, he's cunning all right. Does his hatred of America know no bounds that he would ensure health coverage for all? Where will this horror end?

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:06 AM

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Yes, Magons, the only "Real Americans" are those who were brought up as he was and share his views--he's a picture perfect illustration of right wing mentality. The rest of us should "just go back" to where we came from.

ANd let's face it, the man has the temerity to be black and powerful. I mean, how unAmerican is that. The righties have a point there. It just 'Isnt The Way Things Should Be'

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:20 AM

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Obama is an Islamist Sleeper Agent and you know it Chris.
Forget acts of terror, his aim is to bring down america by healthcare. That's right, he's cunning all right. Does his hatred of America know no bounds that he would ensure health coverage for all? Where will this horror end?

Your ignorance of Obama'a past allows you to post idiotic comments, like the above.

You can't " ensure health coverage for all' in a free society. That's compelling the work of doctors, nurses and others to be beholden to the State, and their freedoms, their lives, to be forfeit for the greater good.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:30 AM

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OMG!!!

The horror of "the greater good"!

God forbid that anyone sign up in the military for "the greater good"!

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:40 AM

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I saw his movie. Did you ?

Hey, wow, did you see THAT?

rappy saw a MOVIE!

And he believed every WORD!

Isn't he, like, the greatest doofus E V E R?

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:44 AM

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Select to view spoiler:

Sorry for the multiple posts, but rappy's been laying turds thru the whole thread, and I've been laughing my ass off as I've been scrolling up. rappy's the greatest weight-loss program E V E R.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:47 AM

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You can't " ensure health coverage for all' in a free society. That's compelling the work of doctors, nurses and others to be beholden to the State, and their freedoms, their lives, to be forfeit for the greater good.

LOL.

I don't live in a free society then....

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:36 AM

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Of course you don't, Magons. You're a damned "ferriner", not a Real American, so you've got some gall, even POSTING here (remember?). None of those countries who "ensure health coverage for all" are Free Societies. Only Amurica is a Free Society. Gawd you ferriners are dumb!

Rap: "Your ignorance allows you to post idiotic comments, like the above".

At least he keeps people posting...and laughing...

"I know what I saw, and read." There you go. He chose what he saw and read, and it was exactly what he wanted it to be, so voila: It's fact. What's that old saying? "My mind's made up, please don't confuse me with the facts". As long as you are verrry careful only to only "see" and "read" what confirms your beliefs, and are very, very careful to never read anything which critiques those things, then whew, you're SAFE, you know it all. Works for them, you betcha!

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:43 AM

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Niki , Sig = prime examples of Dunning - Kruger. They're so ignorant, to try to explain reality to them only reinforces their delusion opinions.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:15 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I assume Rap means that cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. Amusing as hell, given all Rap can do is regurgitate talking points and cut and paste Breitbart, while the rest of us have made cogent arguments and posted material from myriad sources.

As to Dunning-Kruger:

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This explains much of recent American politics, including George W. Bush, Sarah Palin and most of the Teabag movement. Those who vote for them are too ignorant to recognize how ignorant they are. Dunning and Kruger often refer to a “double curse” when interpreting their findings: people fail to grasp their own incompetence, precisely because they are so incompetent. And since overcoming their incompetence would first require the ability to distinguish competence from incompetence, people get stuck in a vicious cycle.

So they become fans of Sarah Palin. They become climate change deniers. They become Obama birthplace crackpots. They become Teabaggers.

But this is the human condition. It exists everywhere, although studies show it is far more prevalent in Americans. What Bush, Palin and some Republicans have done is aggravate the Dunning-Kruger Effect in two important ways.

First, they have made ignorance a badge of honor. Palin, in particular, seems to be extraordinarily proud of her ignorance in any number of areas. The logical fallacy of the appeal to ignorance is well known, and used in arguments by politicians of all stripes. (WC was once confronted by an evolution denier who argued he had never seen a mouse give birth to a monkey as “proof” evolution didn’t exist.) But when you combine ignorance, the Dunning-Kruger Effect and pride in that ignorance, together with an unwillingness to development judgment skills, well, you’ve got Sarah Palin.

Second, an appalling number of right wing commentators have made cynical, manipulative use of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh – assuming they don’t suffer the same problem – can only be viewed as taking advantage of the ignorance of their listeners. D-K Shock Jocks, as it were. Not since Huey P. Long was assassinated has there been such a broad-scale, systematic effort to manipulate the body politic through its ignorance.

The Dunning-Kruger Effect used to personal advantage.

I suspect that’s not what Jefferson and Madison had in mind when they created the country and gave citizens the franchise. But hey, it's worked for the right...sorta...

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:41 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Niki2:

I assume Rap means that cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average.

Yeah. In brief, the less you know, the more confident you are of your opinion. Which describes you, to a T.

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Amusing as hell, given all Rap can do is regurgitate talking points and cut and paste Breitbart, while the rest of us have made cogent arguments and posted material from myriad sources.

This, coming from the cut / paste QUEEN of FFF.net.

I posted ONE article form Breitbart, pertaining to the issue of closings due to the govt shut down. As of yet, no one has disputed the facts posted, only bitched and moaned bout it being from Breitbart.

Chris at least made an honest ATTEMPT to stick w/ the issue, disagreeing only w/ the commentary that was offered by the article.

Niki, on the other hand, has remained in full partisan battle mode, not yielding an inch, no matter how fallacious her comments. You ignore the points made, and try tangent off into entirely separate issues, in order to perpetuate your widdle partisan temper tantrum.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:46 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
We live in a time when a President can verbally assault his political opponents 365 days a year with the most devisive, hateful, and childish rhetoric ever spoken. This gutter punk president also uses the IRS as a political weapon, while the ass-licking press applauds his every passing of gas.

Derangement on a stick.

Hilarious.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:53 PM

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Chris at least made an honest ATTEMPT to stick w/ the issue,

I did not; take that back!

LOL, I could characterize that as, yeah, that stuff's closed. The rest is wrong.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:56 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

"no one has disputed the facts posted"--yet again, OBAMA DID NOT SHUT DOWN ANYTHING. THE LAW MANDATES THE SHUTDOWNS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED. That specifically refutes every single time the Breitbart article states "Obama shut down..." or "Obama closes..." or any such thing. Jeeee-zus the man has gone

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:10 PM

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Of course you don't, Magons. You're a damned "ferriner", not a Real American, so you've got some gall, even POSTING here (remember?). None of those countries who "ensure health coverage for all" are Free Societies. Only Amurica is a Free Society. Gawd you ferriners are dumb!

Help, help. I'm being oppressed by having access to affordable health care.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:25 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yes, you are, you poor little thing. You need to come to America, the land of the free (to die) and home of the brave (who hide behind guns)! No, wait, that wouldn't work either--you weren't BORN here and raised right wing, so you still wouldn't be a Real American.

Sorry. You'll just have to spend your life as an ign'rent, oppressed ferriner in an underprivileged, socialist country who doesn't understand the first thing about True Freedom. But that's okay, we'll come over there to spend our money on healthcare, 'cuz it's GOTTA be cheaper than HERE!

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:41 PM

America loves a winner!

Niki - If there's a bridge out, then it's Obama's fault. All that $$ wasted on the Recovery and Reinvestment Act, some of it SHOULD have gone to roads and bridges, remember ?

And for all them 'ferriners' out there, enjoying free gov'ment healthcare, you're welcome. It was largely on the back of OUR military which allowed your countries to focus more of their resources on social spending, and not your national defense.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:48 PM

America loves a winner!

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 4:51 PM