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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
His family trip to Africa later this month is estimated that it will cost the taxpayers a minimum of $50 million dollars, and possibly as much as $100 million dollars. But as a hideout and distraction from all his scandals and crumbling Presidency, it's da bomb!

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ps. Tiger Woods posted a dismal +13 over par in The U.S. Open today, his worst showing ever in a PGA major. Up until the day Obama played golf with him, Tiger had already won 4 tournaments this year, and was favored to expand his major tournament win total. Looks like something really really bad musta rubbed off.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
His family trip to Africa later this month is estimated that it will cost the taxpayers a minimum of $50 million dollars, and possibly as much as $100 million dollars.

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Where was all your outrage over the first family's SEVEN trips to Africa during Dubya's term of office?

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As conservatives rage about the cost of Obama’s Africa trip, it is important to remember that George and Laura Bush made a combined 7 trips to Africa all on the taxpayers’ dime.

We’ve played this game before, but anytime the nation’s first black president spends more than a dollar, the right wing freaks out about Barack Obama “wasting taxpayer dollars.” Back in 2011, the right claimed that First Lady Obama’s Africa trip would cost taxpayers millions, but even if you use numbers that the White House disagrees with ($424,000), they weren’t even close.

This time the right has whipped up the fake outrage over a leaked document showing that President Obama’s upcoming Africa trip could cost $60-$100 million. What these same people don’t tell is that George and Laura Bush loved to go to Africa on the taxpayers’ dime…a lot.

During Bush’s second term alone, Laura Bush made five “goodwill” trips to Africa. President Bush made the trip twice during his presidency. Here is former First Lady Bush at an event the night before their trip in 2008, “Tomorrow, President Bush and I leave for what will be my fifth trip to Africa since 2001, and his second trip to Africa since 2001. I’ve seen the determination of the people across Africa — and the compassion of the people of the United States of America.”

Wow, that’s a lot of trips to Africa. In 2007, Laura Bush also took her daughters with her, and they went on a safari. You know, the same kind of outing that President Obama just canceled.

Not much was going right for George W. Bush. Even before the economy crashed, his legacy was 9/11, the unpopular Iraq invasion, and Hurricane Katrina. Back in 2003, Bush laid the groundwork for making aid to Africa his legacy. One of the areas where Bush drew praise was that he spent billions of taxpayer dollars on aid to Africa. It’s funny how conservatives don’t utter a peep about George W. Bush dishing out more than ten times the amount of taxpayer money on aid than Obama will spend on his trip.

Why could the country afford to spend billions of dollars during Bush’s no growth economy, but they can’t afford to spend at least $60 million for the sitting president to travel today?

Giving aid to Africa to combat malaria and AIDS is a very noble cause. It literally saves lives, but 5 goodwill visits to Africa aren’t cheap. Laura Bush wasn’t flying all alone on a commercial flight. Her trips cost the taxpayers a pretty penny.

For some odd reason, the GAO (General Accounting Office) records on the cost of the Bush family’s Africa travels seem to have vanished. The media has contacted the GAO, but no specific numbers have been provided yet. President Clinton’s Africa trip in 1998 cost taxpayers $42.8 million. George W. Bush’s two trips five and ten years later were likely more expensive.

The Washington Post story didn’t say that Obama’s trip will cost $100 million, but that the trip could cost $60-100 million, and that the cost was based on similar African trips made in recent years, “Obama’s trip could cost the federal government $60 million to $100 million based on the costs of similar African trips in recent years, according to one person familiar with the journey, who was not authorized to speak for attribution.”

President Obama hasn’t made any trips to Africa, except a 22 hour stopover in Ghana in 2009, so it is pretty clear that Secret Service is basing their cost estimate on the cost of the Bush trips. Since George W. Bush made two presidential trips to Africa, it is likely that he spent more money in today’s dollars as President Obama will on his trip.

The reality is that presidential trips are expensive. It would be fair to be opposed to all of them, but the hypocrisy of only being outraged when certain presidents travel is unacceptable. George W. Bush appears to have had himself quite a little African spending spree, but apparently cost only matters when Barack Obama is the president who is doing the traveling.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Obama has gone on far more 5star luxurious trip, during a bad economy. Your cites are suspect.

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W didn't take 7 trips to Africa. Not according to the Office of the Historian of the US SecState.

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No idea which of those he took his entire family. Got any cites on that,or how much each trip cost, Kwickie ?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:


You can go ahead and admit it: You just can't stand it when a black guy gets to travel at taxpayers' expense. That's really what it comes down to, and it really pisses you off that I exposed that side of you, the racist, ugly side that you think you keep hidden so well. (Hint: you really can't hide it; you aren't that good an actor)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by Kwicko:


You can go ahead and admit it: You just can't stand it when a black guy gets to travel at taxpayers' expense. That's really what it comes down to, and it really pisses you off that I exposed that side of you, the racist, ugly side that you think you keep hidden so well. (Hint: you really can't hide it; you aren't that good an actor)

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Only you'd think wasting the tax payer's $ is some how 'racist'. Well, you and most brain dead Liberals, who'll jump at over playing the race card at any possible chance.

You've made a false and unsubstantiated claim that I'm a racist. Once again, I'm not, but it's clear that doesn't keep you from lying.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

So clear it up for us; which is it? Are you a vile racist, or just a purely partisan hack?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're correct; I do not think in "normal" terms. I also don't think in "average" terms either. If you stand in the middle of the road, you're going to get run over.

How many trips did the whole Bush family take during his time in the White House?

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Meanwhile, answer the question: Are you a racist, or just a purely partisan hack?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're correct; I do not think in "normal" terms. I also don't think in "average" terms either. If you stand in the middle of the road, you're going to get run over.

How many trips did the whole Bush family take during his time in the White House?

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Trips to Crawford don't count. You can't 'vacation' in your own home.

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Evian is Naive, spelled backwards......

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