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GOP and NRA: a love fest

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Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Just made me giggle...several times:
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The annual festival of conspiracy theorizing, belligerent fist-shaking and anxious masculinity known as the National Rifle Association convention came to Houston over the weekend, and it was everything the organizers hoped it would be.

Tens of thousands of attendees perused 500 booths where you could look at guns, buy guns, learn about guns, talk about guns and maybe weep about guns, along with plenty of training courses to prepare you for the day when society breaks down and you finally get the chance to use that arsenal to defend your home against marauding gangs of cannibals.

This being an NRA gathering, there were media figures and politicians aplenty. Glenn Beck, fresh off suggesting that a man who shot himself last week at Houston airport's was a part of a Reichstag fire-like conspiracy to pave the way for a fascist crackdown on Americans, gave the keynote address.

Prominent politicians who appeared included Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former presidential candidate Rick Santorum, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and Sarah Palin. They have something in common, beyond the fact that they've all run for president before or might in 2016. Like the NRA itself, they all camp out on the conservative fringe but are nevertheless convinced that they represent the mainstream.

Perry, who calls Social Security "a monstrous lie" and has flirted in the past with the idea that Texas should secede from the United States, thought that what Americans wanted in a president was Yosemite Sam without the intellectual pretensions. Turned out, not so much.

Jindal recently suffered a political setback when he proposed cutting the (progressive) income tax and raising the (regressive) sales tax, I guess because poor people in Louisiana have just been having it too easy. Even his conservative state recoiled, and Jindal's approval ratings plummeted.

Cruz has cut a McCarthyite swath through Washington in his four months there, leading to rare agreement between Republicans and Democrats that he's an enormous jerk. Naturally, he's seriously considering a run for president in 2016.

And as for the former half-term governor of Alaska? Well, you already know about her.

All of them believe they represent the real America, and if the country just had a chance to hear their unvarnished views, they could win the White House with ease. That most real Americans find that idea either laughable or terrifying doesn't seem to register with them. They're right at home with the NRA, which just selected as its president a man who still refers to the Civil War as "the war of Northern aggression," and has such a twisted view of liberty that he believes the freedom to buy an AR-15 at a gun show without having to fill out a form is as important as freedom of speech or religion.

Eighteen years ago, after a right-wing anti-government extremist bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 men, women and children, NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre railed against the threat from "jackbooted government thugs" in "Nazi bucket helmets." In response, former President George H.W. Bush wrote the group an outraged letter defending those who work for the government, including one Secret Service agent killed in Oklahoma City who had worked on Bush's detail in the White House. "He was no Nazi," Bush wrote, and resigned his NRA life membership in disgust.

In the time since, the NRA has become even more extreme, even more paranoid, even more ensconced in its self-reinforcing world in which guns are all that matter. There may be a few Republicans who now have the courage to stand up to them. But there are still plenty such as Perry, Cruz and Palin, who will troop to their convention and jump into their festering pool of anger and fear. They don't seem to realize how it makes them smell. http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/opinion/waldman-nra-conference/index.htm
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Didn't know Dubya had resigned his NRA membership. Good for him!

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Tuesday, May 7, 2013 10:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



The NRA hasn't become the lest bit more 'extreme'. All they've done is recognize the ultra, hyper far Left wing nut cases in charge now of the Dem party, and acted accordingly. As our Founders would have wanted, and as they indeed did warn us would happen.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, May 7, 2013 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The NRA hasn't become the lest bit more 'extreme'. All they've done is recognize the ultra, hyper far Left wing nut cases in charge now of the Dem party, and acted accordingly. As our Founders would have wanted, and as they indeed did warn us would happen.



Right, Universal Background checks, which the NRA used to support, are "extreme".

More idiotic dispatches from rappyland.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:08 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Seriously Storybook, what color is the sky in your world ?


On a very technical level, Obama’s statement is correct: LaPierre did call for some form of expanded background checks.

Yet at the same time the NRA worked hard to defeat the proposals advanced by President Clinton and other Democrats, just as it has worked hard to defeat Obama’s proposals this year. The net result is the same: stalemate and victory for the NRA.
For reasons of tactics, it serves Obama’s interests to suggest that the NRA once was open to an idea it now opposes. But the political reality is quite different. One suspects that if Obama had been in Clinton’s shoes in 1999, he also would not have considered LaPierre’s statement to be indicative of “support” for expanded background checks.

Obama’s comments don’t really merit a Pinocchio, given the NRA’s statements that its position has changed, but neither does it qualify for a Geppetto. This history lesson shows that, in politics, the words are sometimes much less important than the actions taken for or against legislation.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/history-lesson-t
he-nras-support-for-expanded-background-checks/2013/04/18/fb2ee58e-a875-11e2-8302-3c7e0ea97057_blog.html


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

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Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:21 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Seriously Storybook, what color is the sky in your world ?



Seeing as I live in the real world, and not your deluded little rappyland, it's blue. Slightly cloudy.

Because, in the REAL WORLD, Lapierre said this:


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““We think it’s reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone.” – Wayne LaPierre, 1999




It's even on video, boy. Now, scurry back to your fantasy world, fuckwit.





Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:40 PM

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Originally posted by DOMOKUN1:
The problem isn't with "universal" background checks at gun shows, which we already have in California - it's with the extra POOP that gets attached to the bills. If it was simply - we run a NICS on every gun buyer at a gun show - AND THAT'S IT - opposition would be minimal at best, including opposition from NRA/SAF/GOA, and so on.



I highly doubt that, really.

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And I gotta ask - what's "rappyland"?


Our little colloquial term, used to refer to the hard-right fantasy world rappy (AUraptor - but no one calls him that) likes to live in. Its a world where Bush is revered, peer reviewed science is a scam, and every Muslim is a jihadist.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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