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And let's not forget most Libyans are pro-American

POSTED BY: NIKI2
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Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


While we're fussing about the episode in Libya and how Romney reacted, etc., let's not forget that not only did they represent as small part of Libyans (and possibly a military attack by extremists), but that ten or more Libyans DIED trying to save the Americans.

And:
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'This Does Not Represent Us': Moving Photos of Pro-American Rallies in Libya



Just like not all Americans are like the people who made the weird anti-Islam movie that is sparking protests in Muslim nations, not all people in Libya are like the ones who killed U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens. Some of the people of Benghazi, where Stevens was killed, held a demonstration against terrorism and to show sympathy for the U.S. Libya Alhurra TV, an Internet TV channel founded at the start of the Arab Spring in 2011, posted Facebook photos of a rally there showing support for America and sympathy for Stevens. Here are some of those pictures (for some reason, despite being jpegs, you'll have to click on them to see them (dammit!)):

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In the photo above, the sign held by the man on the far left says "No to al Qaeda, no to violence, this is a youth revolution." The middle one says, "No No No to Al Qaeda." The sign held by the boy on the right is hard to read at this angle, but says something against killing.

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The Arabic phrase below "Islam against terrorism" says "No to violence." That's on a lot of the signs.

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Twitter user @2011feb17 says these photos are from a counter-protest in Algeria square in Tripoli:

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M. Zuhdi Jasser, a devout Muslim and author of the book A Battle for the Soul of Islam: An American Muslim Patriot's Fight to Save His Faith said that the attacks in Libya are "nothing short of pure evil and in no way representative of the teachings and practices of the faith of Islam." "These crowds are using the movie as an excuse to wreak violence on Americans in Libya and Egypt," Jasser said. "To most Muslims, these excuses for violence that ultimately, even if they are offending or violating a tradition of the prophet, in no way justify any of these types of activities."
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Libya's leaders apologized for the attack, with Prime Minister Abdurrahim el-Keib calling it a "cowardly, criminal act." http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-12/africa/world_africa_libya-us-ambass
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I've tried to put the possible truth about the video and the attack, the Lybian response and Romney's reaction, with cites, to show as many facts as I can about those three issues because this is a very important moment in our country, and it's vital, as I see it, that we understand what happened as best we can.

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Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I had heard, (via hate filled,racist, Islamo-phobic, conservative ) talk radio that some such pics were out , described pretty much as posted. I was going to follow up and put up something similar to this thread, but got side tracked.

Glad you did.

It's a good thing to see.

And while I don't expect we'll see masses of people marching and chanting " usa! usa! usa!" over there any time soon, this is a nice change of pace.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, September 14, 2012 1:04 AM

JONGSSTRAW



Days after the first embassy attacks on 9/11(strange how that date is vaguely familiar somehow) Obama orders increased security at other embassies. Hey, good idea there bud! Better late than never I suppose for the President who slept like a baby and was not disturbed while our ambassador disappeared for eight hours before turning up dead. Let's see what the pre-recorded Nobel Prize winner does next.

And Sec. of State Hillary Clinton barely had time to scramble out of Madame Kong's lesbian shemale training brothel in Phuket, Thailand with her overnight travel bag to catch up with Barack in D.C. appearing on tv looking unkempt, bloated, bolluxed, and bewildered by current events.

But according to them and their ever-slobbering, blindly propagandist loyal media satyrs and nymphs it's all the vile, insensitive filmaker's fault for making a movie that denigrates a religion. Bill Mahr, how could you do something so stupid! Whoops, wrong fucking cocksucker moviemaker there, sorry. And Mitt Romney?...fuggetaboutit, that's a long wait for a thrill down your leg that don't come.








Hmmm, better than Reuben's.
..One more.
Ben!
..My last one.
Okay.

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Friday, September 14, 2012 1:04 AM

CATPIRATE


Here's one. They rushed him to the hospital after they ganged raped him.

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Friday, September 14, 2012 2:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by CATPIRATE:
Here's one. They rushed him to the hospital after they ganged raped him.

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/stevens-im
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I'm hearing now that he " officially " died of smoke inhalation. His shirt does look soot covered, but that could be from being dragged through the charred rubble. His lips do appear bluish, and his belt is unbuckled.

Make of that what you can.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, September 14, 2012 3:21 AM

CATPIRATE


In the Gulf War soldiers who were captured were raped. The men it was hushed up. The female heilo pilot who was ganged raped lied about her time as a POW. Bill Clinton put women in combat roles after she said she hadn't been. That was a big deal since then she has came out about it. She is a retired Colonel. But her career was more important. This is pretty normal in the moslem world. It's a death penalty for being queer. But raping infidels is AOK. So what they have done with reporters it does not surprise me. But we are being lied to about what happen.

The security force told the terrorists where he was. he was missing for 5 hours. And then were told friendlies rushed him to the hospital. I am disgusted. I know how much we helped them overthrow the tyrant and this how we are repaid. I've been over in that world quite a bit. They are so fake. And McCain wanted us to go into Syria. Forget these animals. Burn em to glass.

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Friday, September 14, 2012 3:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



The problem with photos like these, is you have no real way of knowing if they're genuine or not. I suppose some can , but it's common practice in the middle east for messages of friendship and gratitude to be offered in English, while at the same time, cries of 'Death to America ' are uttered in Arabic.

They have no qualms about lying to infidels, which makes it ever so tough to decipher what they truly are saying.

I suspect there are plenty who feel we double crossed them. Khadaffi was in power for so long, and had even over turned much of his WMD program to the UN, on good faith ( or flat out scared to death that we'd invade ) I can see how many feel we basically DID invade, anyways, by helping the rebels.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, September 14, 2012 5:05 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:


And Sec. of State Hillary Clinton barely had time to scramble out of Madame Kong's lesbian shemale training brothel in Phuket, Thailand with her overnight travel bag to catch up with Barack in D.C. appearing on tv looking unkempt, bloated, bolluxed, and bewildered by current events.



Wow, you went hard-core crazy overnight, didn't ya? That's PN level stuff there.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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