Carry On. by Wulfenstar

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Carry On.

POSTED BY: WULFENSTAR
UPDATED: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:11
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Monday, March 26, 2012 9:40 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I've been known to stand on some very rickety positions. (Them only being rickety because well.. its hard to explain the level of rage to someone who never fought for, lets say, the Independence.)

Yet, I knew that. I knew posting my ideas, views, thoughts would get some sort of reaction. I mean, I could write platitudes, agree with foolishness, and just go-along-to-get-along.

But where is the fun in that? Where is the learning or understanding in it?

Notice, that my threads tend to be a lightning rod. I'm ok with that.

Some here NEED to learn. To learn that the world isn't an echo chamber of their beliefs. That there is a hell of a lot more out there. That much of it IS hell.

BUT, we can change it. We can make it better.

So I fight. I fight to pull these people off their couches, off their chairs, out of their basements... and into the light of the outside.

Yes, its bright, its scary. Its cold, or hot.

So now that you are off your ass, and seeing whats outside of your front door, and not listening to the people who will just agree with you...

What will you do?

Can you truly listen to the platitudes you've been fed? Can you see what is out here, and just sigh?

Is it safer to hide, let someone else feed, clothe, and shelter you?

Or is it better for you to fight for your food? Your clothes? Your shelter?

You CAN take care of yourself. You don't need others to do it for you. And, whats more? YOU CAN HELP OTHERS. Without stripping them of the dignity of doing it for themselves.

Don't get me wrong. There is a lot of evil in this world. Only a fool ignores it. But, only a coward HIDES from it, and expects someone else to do something about it.

I guess I've believed that if you watched Firefly, and understood it, you could understand that.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Somewhere along the line, somehow, in ways I cannot find the words for, the motivations slowly changed ..."

I think you rescued yourself.
Also, there is an idea going around that basically goes that the older you get, the less you
are the person you were raised and the more you become the person you were born to be.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:33 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Its obvious you've never met my wife, or myself, if you think that our daughter would take mouthy b.s. from pissants like that without swift and
terrible retribution."

I find this troubling. Children are their own people, not reflections of the parents. What if she's naturally quiet,
sensitive, and timid? How will you relate to her then? What will you do to try and push her
into behavior that's not her own, but yours?

It's hard to not raise children with your own past in mind. I myself remember vowing I will never do THIS. I will always do THAT.
I guess it sort-of worked out, I never focused too much on the problems except to solve them as quickly as possible if possible,
and like Niki to focus instead on the wonderful person inside. But I look back and still see if I hadn't been reacting so strongly to my own
upbringing there were things I could have done better.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

My gawd, the hubris. Wulf doesn't touch me except to make me sneer, sadly shake my head, and snark at him. Look at the stuff he just posted...talk about grandiosity, arrogance, and of course...hubris!

I can't speak for others, but that's what irritates me about him. He has NO desire to listen to others, or (gawd forbid) give their opinions any weight whatsoever, he doesn't communicate, isn't capable of debating, he thinks he's got the world whipped and is out there to tell everyone else how to think, behave, etc. I find it sickening. He sure seems like someone's sockpuppet to me, and always has, 'cuz all he does is spout platitudes, and most of them seem to come straight out of FauxNews.

He doesn't "teach" anything, he doesn't motivate anyone like he says; in the past all he's done is post videos of fantasy and movies and TV, none of which are reality-based, all of which have "heroes" who don't exist in real life. Yet he thinks he's this grand something-or-other, that he can have any effect on anyone with half a brain. All he DOES is speak in platitudes!

And yes, he offends me. He offendes me because he's always telling others to stand up for themselves, to take action, when any number of us HAVE done so, far more than he ever will, and continue to do so on a daily basis. To speak to us like we're "hiding", when it's he who so far has shown absolutely no ability to deal with the real world, offends me.

(Just FYI, Wulf: "Hubris means extreme haughtiness, pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities." That's you to a T.)

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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:52 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I just read the last Wulf post - pathetic really.

Apparently being on my own since teenagerhood, living in violent neighborhoods, being assaulted, robbed, burglarized,
and having my car stolen, working marginal jobs, putting myself through school and all the rest of my life has been living
a sheltered life sitting on a sofa. B/c obviously those of us who don't feel and think exactly like him are mere deluded,
sheltered know-nothings.

But yeah - the hubris. It's astounding in its sheer grandiosity.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 11:08 AM

STORYMARK

I tend to just regard anything he posts as akin to what you may hear from that guy on the corner holding the cardboard sign, saying HE knows the TRUTH!

Much the same as a PN post, just a different variety of nuts.

Spoon!

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:00 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Funny enough, this is not the first time I've been accused of hubris.

I've always thought of it as the willingness to defy the stupidity of mankind.

To instead offer a different path, a hand out of the darkness.

(Actually hubris was the idea that a man could know better than the gods. It was considered arrogant that a man could understand the world better than the overlords. Heh. You are right Niki. I do know better than the self-proclaimed "gods" of this world. Whats the phrase? "The gauntlet has been dropped"?)

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:06 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Assuming of course that the entirety of mankind is stupid and mired in darkness, and that only you, oh exalted one, has the truth.

I was going to say 'has the light', but actually, I'd be more inclined to ask 6-string - 'ya gotta' light?

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:07 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

A. That is not hubris; you should learn what hubris actually is. If you've been described as such before, that might tell you something. It has nothing to do with defying the stupidity of mankind; in some ways, hubris is actually an ILLUSTRATION of the stupidity of man.

B. You are no "hand out of the darkness", Wulf. MANY of us do not live in the "darkness" and need no hand to "show us the way". You couldn't anyway, as from everything I've seen of you, you don't live in the real world yourself. You speak in adages, sayings ("something that is commonplace, longstanding and occasionally trite"), most of yours ARE trite, and you seem to make little effort to actually communicate.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:11 PM

STORYMARK

Spoon!

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