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Death of a Senator

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UPDATED: Sunday, March 4, 2012 20:44
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Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:48 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Not A Senator, mind you - THE Senator, as in the worlds oldest tree, recently burned, sorry Niki but I couldn't find the original thread...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Senator_%28tree%29

Just wanted you to know, they did catch the culprit, much good that it does, for whatever happens now, it ain't gonna bring the Senator back.

Woman arrested in 'The Senator' tree fire
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/241489/19/Woman-arrested-in-The-Senat
or-tree-fire


And here's where my thoughts on restorative versus retributive justice come in - you can't bring the tree back, and punitive measures are naught more than a knee-jerk in a matter like this, not even a deterrent of something that likely amounted to chemically induced stupidity and negligence...

I'd offer the person in question rehab (treating drug abuse as a MEDICAL, rather than LEGAL issue, rightly) and community service planting trees, you know ?

-Frem


I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Scared me for a minute there, when you said "world's oldest tree". World's oldest POND CYPRESS, darling, far from the world's oldest tree. Whew! Not to say it isn't sad as hell nonetheless...

Naturally I think in terms of redwoods, but as it turns out:


This 9,550 year old spruce has been discovered in Dalarna, Sweden. A favourable climate has produced an upright trunk since the beginning of the 1940s

There isn't a single redwood in the ten oldest trees in the world...but the Senator's there:


Gawd he was beautiful. What a loss...


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Saturday, March 3, 2012 9:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Sadly, deranged nut cases abound...



Toomer's Corner Poisoned, Arrest Made In Connection To Auburn Tree Poisoning


On January 27, 2011, a man going by the name of Al and claiming to be from Dadeville, a town 30 minutes from Auburn, called into Paul Finebaum's sports talk radio show. "Al" admitted to poisoning the trees with a pesticide called Spike 80DF (Tebuthiuron) the weekend following the 2010 Iron Bowl, an away game the Tigers played on Friday, November 26, 2010 in Tuscaloosa; the Tigers came back from a 24-0 second-quarter deficit to win 28-27.

He said he did this in retaliation for photos that he claimed to have seen in the Birmingham News that depicted Auburn fans rolling Toomer's Corner after announcement of former University of Alabama head-coach Paul "Bear" Bryant's death in 1983, as well as pictures of an Auburn #2 (number of 2010 Auburn quarterback Cam Newton) Under Armour t-shirt taped to Bryant's statue earlier in the 2010 season. He ended his call by saying, "Roll damn Tide!"

An exhaustive search of newspapers found no evidence of Toomer's being rolled upon Bryant's death.

The caller's claims prompted Auburn to take soil samples. On February 16, 2011, Auburn officials announced that the 130-year-old live oak trees at Toomer's Corner had been poisoned with a large quantity of Spike 80DF, an herbicide governed by Alabama state agricultural laws and the Environmental Protection Agency; Spike 80DF is not used by Auburn University. Tests of soil samples showed the lowest levels of Spike 80DF to be 0.78ppm, which experts say is enough to be a "very lethal dose." The highest levels of concentration were measured to be 51ppm. Gary Keever, an Auburn University professor of horticulture and a member of Auburn's Tree Preservation Committee has said "[Spike 80DF] is extremely active and persistent [and] it's very likely to be in the soil for 3 to 5 years."

The school and city police both launched investigations into the matter. Finebaum later reported that Federal authorities are also involved and are worried the poison could be in the groundwater supply. Both Auburn University President Jay Gogue and University of Alabama Athletic Director Mal Moore have condemned this act.

Police traced the call to the home of Harvey Updyke Jr. of Dadeville. Updyke, a retired Texas state trooper, was taken into custody at 1:26 am CST on February 17, 2011 and charged with one count of criminal mischief, a class C felony in Alabama. As of March 2011, he is being held on a $50,000 bond. If convicted, Updyke faces a maximum of 10 years in prison.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:44 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I did see that incident on the news and it was sad.

:(

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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