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Friday, January 27, 2012 7:24 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


...but still a long, looong ways to go, and only if the Repubs don't take us back to "trickle-down" disaster.
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The United States economy picked up speed at the end of 2011 as businesses substantially built up their inventories and consumers increased their spending.

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's economic health, grew at a 2.8% annual rate in the last three months of the year, the Commerce Department said.


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Ford reported its best annual earnings since 1998 on Friday, making 2011 the second most profitable year in the company's 109-year history.
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General Motors and its partners sold 9 million vehicles around the globe in 2011, the company announced Thursday, allowing it to reclaim the title of world’s top-selling automaker.

Toyota had snatched the crown from General Motors in 2008, as the American automaker nearly crumbled under the weight of its debts and as U.S. auto sales plummeted with the recession.

The 2011 sales figure reflects the dramatic turnaround that began when the company filed for bankruptcy less than three years ago and, according to analysts, stems from the popularity of its latest vehicles.

GM has “demonstrated the ability to introduce competitive products and do it consistently,” said Jeremy Anwyl of the automotive Web site Edmunds.com.

Overall, the U.S. auto industry, which had seemed to be on the brink of collapse at the onset of the recession, has strengthened.

Since their government rescues, General Motors and Chrysler have both far exceeded analysts’ expectations for profit and sales. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gm-once-again-top-selli
ng-automaker/2012/01/19/gIQAp3b1BQ_story.html
Conference Board announced that its Leading Economic Index rose 0.4 percent in December, the third consecutive month of gains. Manufacturing played an important role in this month’s increases, with increased new orders and a longer average workweek. Improvements in the employment situation, equity markets and the interest rate spread also made positive contributions to this figure.

This positive report mirrors another national index on the economy from the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank. Its National Activity Index rose from -0.46 in November to +0.17 in December. This measure looks to see if the U.S. is expanding at its historical growth rate; therefore, positive numbers reflect above-average growth. This month’s data suggest a significant improvement, with manufacturing output the leading contributor. The production-related variables shifted from -0.28 to +0.24 for the month, led by stronger manufacturing production and capacity utilization.

Other positive contributors included higher employment and sales. This suggests that, while the overall economy remains below its long-term trend, it is moving in the right direction. Moreover, the risk of recession is reduced, as the index has moved further away from the -0.70 threshold which suggests an increased likelihood of recession.

These two measures – one from the Conference Board and the other from the Chicago Fed – are good news as we enter 2012. The economy is improving, with manufacturers playing an important role in its recent rebound. http://shopfloor.org/2012/01/leading-economic-indicators-suggest-modes
t-growth-ahead/23774

Leetle by agonizing leetle, we're hopefully finally struggling out of the incredible hole the Bush policies dumped us into. We're still on really fragile ground, but it's good to see some improvements. Here's hoping it continues!



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Friday, January 27, 2012 7:34 AM

BYTEMITE


That graph appears to be non-useful for a comparison of policies. Is there one that also includes the 2008 and 2009 quarterly report on the GDP?

EDIT: No graph, but here's the numbers I found. Presuming that I haven't found apples and oranges, it looks like the economy fell a lot in 2008 and the first half of 2009, and has been in recovery mode ever since.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/2008-GDP-statistics.htm

http://useconomy.about.com/od/economicindicators/a/GDP-statistics.htm

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Friday, January 27, 2012 7:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Didn't spend much time looking; I'd heard a bit about improvements and saw the article, so glanced around to see else what was out there. The article's at http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/27/news/economy/gdp_growth/index.htm?hpt=
hp_t3
and only has the one graph, but I see you found the info, thanx. I was curious too, tho' I already knew it was probably bad back then.

Didn't know about
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Take a look at Q3, and you'll see the recession was much, much worse than we knew at the time. The BEA revised estimate shows the economy contracted 8.9%, much worse than any previous estimate. It is also worse than any quarterly contraction in any recession the Great Depression.
I guess, tho' it took a long time, we're lucky to have come back as much as we HAVE from that debacle!



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Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:43 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


If its getting better in my city its only slight.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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...but still a long, looong ways to go, and only if the Repubs don't take us back to "trickle-down" disaster.


The free market economy is the only and best way to lift everyone out of this malaise.

Govt regulation, higher taxes, will only send us on the path of Greece. And when this ship strikes those rocks, it'll be a far bigger disaster.


Taking us back, with stricter limits on govt spending, is the only thing that can save this country.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:21 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Riona, it's doing so only slowly (or VERY slowly, or not at all) in most places; I don't know of anywhere it's happened fast, or which has returned to pre-recession (which I think of as DEPRESSION, given the number of homeless families, etc., out there). Every little bit helps, and it will be a very long time before America gets back on its feet...IF we ever return to where we were (which, personally, I doubt we can).

I think foreclosures, businesses dying, people losing their jobs, etc., will continue for a long, long time--and most economists thnk so too; and we could be thrust right back into worse times if Europe doesn't improve and we end up back in the hole we've been fighting our way out of. It's just good to see ANY signs of improvement, in my opinion.



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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:30 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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...but still a long, looong ways to go, and only if the Repubs don't take us back to "trickle-down" disaster.


The free market economy is the only and best way to lift everyone out of this malaise.

Govt regulation, higher taxes, will only send us on the path of Greece. And when this ship strikes those rocks, it'll be a far bigger disaster.


Taking us back, with stricter limits on govt spending, is the only thing that can save this country.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Spoken like a believer.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


...or a troll, trolling to goad others into responding.



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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:46 AM

STORYMARK


Oh, Im sure its both. A Troll who cannot let go of a tired ideology.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You really think he IS that blind/stupid? I guess I prefer to think of him as a troll; it's hard to imagine anyone as deliberately ignorant as he is, better he should be purely a troll.



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Monday, January 30, 2012 1:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Would that such were true...

All too many really are that deluded and crazy, and way too many in positions of power - hence dismissing them as a joke can actually be dangerous, cause they're just waiting for the day of the jackboot when they can show their true colors.

And it's down to folk like us not to give it to em.

-F

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Monday, January 30, 2012 2:06 PM

WHOZIT


How much of that growth are seasonal jobs? Alot of warehouses, trucking companys and department stores hire temporary workers in November and December then kill them and dismember their bodies. Unemployment is still over 8.5%, gas is over $3 a gallion and the economy still stinks.

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