Weiner's not the weiner by Niki2

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Weiner's not the weiner

POSTED BY: NIKI2
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Thursday, June 2, 2011 12:51 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

The media is. And the American public, for paying attention. For gawd's sake, I can't turn on a new channel without them either talking about it or HIM being there talking about it!

It's gotten truly sad when this is "news". I don't give a flying fuck what a pol does in his private time unless it breaks the law. Nobody should. It's none of our damned business and has no bearing on whether they'd make a good legislator or not.

I don't get why Lee resigned over his photo. It's not lewd, it's not even sexy, and it's nobody's business. I haven't even seen the Weiner photo, don't seem to be able to find it in a quick search out of curiosity. Nor do I give a damn. For all we know, the Twitter photo is retaliation for Lee's situation, apparently hacking someone's account isn't that hard (one reason I'm on neither Twitter NOR Facebook). Who CARES? Aside from the media, I mean...

He's being stupid with all these interviews, in my opinion, and the media is having a ball with it. Must be slow news days, gawd knows there's nothing IMPORTANT happening out there!

I don't give a damn WHAT they do in their private lives, except for those who have or may have broken the law. And, admittedly, for the humor of Republican idiots who claim the high moral ground and are found to be just as guilty as those they've "holier-than-thou'd". That's amusing, but for the rest of it? What a crock!

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 12:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

It's not the tweet, it's the cover up, that'll do this clown in.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 2:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Which clown? Breitbart? Given his record on "massaging" stories, does anyone really think there's anything to this?

I've seen half a dozen people fake the same kind of tweet Weiner supposedly sent out. It's been pretty soundly debunked already, and the one guy on the planet who just happened to "find" a screen-cap of it also just happened to announce two weeks earlier that such a thing was going to happen, before it allegedly happened.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 2:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Breitbart's been above board and his actual record is unquestionable. That you don't like what he finds, is irrelevant.

As for Weiner's weiner, nothing's been ' debunked'. If his account was hacked, why not file a report w/ the FBI, or Capitol Police ?

Instead, Weiner's gone w/ a private security firm. That way, he doesn't have to deny anything, or risk filing a false report.

He first claims his twitter account was hacked. Then he changes his story, and admits that there are photos..., though he won't come out and say whether that that particular photo is of him or not.

Funny, you'd think a guy would know if there are photos of his junk - anywhere. From the sounds of it, he's well aware that there ARE photos, he's just not fessing up to this being one of them.

It's funny to watch idiots defend the indefensible.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 3:47 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's funny to watch idiots defend the indefensible.

I know, right? Why do you keep defending Breitbart like that?

Although it's good to see you finally admit that you're an idiot for doing so.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 4:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Easy to defend Breitbart, he's right.

Duh

You're the idiot supportin Weiner

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:20 AM

KWICKO

Pretty good rundown and timeline on how this hoax was perpetrated.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/29/980400/-Breitbarts-#TwitterHo
axHow-It-Went-Down

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Nice piece of fiction by KOS.

If it were a hoax, why didn't Weiner flatly deny everything, from the start ?

Why not report anything to the Cap. Police, or FBI ?

Reality is too much for the Left to deal with, so instead, they must fabricate the most intricate and monotonous lies, which only grow and grow and grow.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:45 AM

JONGSSTRAW

The big issue here is that a U.S. Congressman is saying that his personal account(s) have been hacked. This is a dangerous and frightening situation if any Congressman can be subjected to this type of illegal interference. It must be investigated by the FBI, not Weiner's people. If he was hacked, then the person responsible will be charged with a felony. If Weiner wasn't hacked, then Weiner's a liar and a pervert. I already considered him to be a pathelogical lying ideologue douchebag, so my money is on him being responsible for this embarrassing situation.

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:52 AM

KWICKO

Why would you call the FBI if your Twitter account were hacked?

I mean, is that what you think would be appropriate action?

Wouldn't that be a bit of overkill? Wouldn't you even call it EXCESSIVE to waste taxpayer money calling in the FBI on such a trivial thing?

To sum up: You DON'T think the FBI and law enforcement is useful for combatting terrorism or dealing with suspected terrorists, but you DO think their job should be running down facebook and Twitter hacks.

Nice to know you have your priorities straight, Rappy.

Would the Capitol Police be an appropriate bunch to call for something having to do with a personal Twitter account?

Seems to me you're complaining because Rep. Weiner is paying out of pocket for a private investigation firm to look into this. You're whining because he ISN'T sticking you with the bill and wasting taxpayer money and time with such an idiotic thing.

The "fiction" here is entirely Breitbart's. But we know you believe him. As you pointed out yesterday, you regularly believe fictional works are factual, real-world events. Tom Clancy, Shirley Sherrod, ACORN, the Louisiana Senator's office break-in, WMD and yellowcake from Niger...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

He is a pathological lying douche bag.

His social networking accounts were hacked, not his private files, so as far as that goes, maybe not the most sensitive of issues.

Maybe not so much a pervert, as a unfaithful, womanizing piece of go-se blind ideologue. Kinda like Clinton, but with out any charm.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 5:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

A US Congressman's private account is being hacked, who knows what else has been breached ?

There's an issue of blackmail, if the hackers know the Congressman's business. That could very well be viewed as a national security issue.

You're really not thinking too forward on this matter, are you Kwickie ?

No, your knee jerk reaction is to cover, divert, explain away, and stand up for Weiner, because he's a far Left wing Democrat.

And as for his " out of pocket " expense... that's specious as it gets. Not only does dealing w/ a private security firm avoid the possibility of him having to file a false report ( which is itself a crime ), but as a public servant, he's already using public $. This " out of pocket " line is nothing of the sort, as WE THE PEOPLE are paying for his cover up with OUR money, not his.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 12:32 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Maybe not so much a pervert, as a unfaithful, womanizing piece of go-se blind ideologue. Kinda like Gingrich, but with out any Tiffany's slush fund.

Fixed that for ya, dearie.

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 12:42 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

A US Congressman's private account is being hacked, who knows what else has been breached ?

A twitter account and possibly a facebook account were hacked. That's not national security stuff. Are you suggesting that for anyone whose personal accounts are compromised in any way, we should also launch a full-scale investigation into all of their job-related accounts?

As usual, you're completely willing to throw out things like "due process" and "probably cause" when it suits your agenda, purely along party lines.

By such logic, we really must look into all of Slimy Newt's accounts. After all, it's a matter of national security! Or, well... it could be, for all we know. And since he gets his healthcare paid for by the taxpayers, then every penny he touches is OUR money. Right?

That is the argument you're putting forward here.

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There's an issue of blackmail, if the hackers know the Congressman's business. That could very well be viewed as a national security issue.

That's quite a reach. Careful you don't dislocate your shoulder!

Blackmail? They're really bad at it if that's the aim, releasing the evidence before demanding anything, aren't they?

You're really not thinking too clearly on this matter, are you Rappy ?

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And as for his " out of pocket " expense... that's specious as it gets. Not only does dealing w/ a private security firm avoid the possibility of him having to file a false report ( which is itself a crime ), but as a public servant, he's already using public $. This " out of pocket " line is nothing of the sort, as WE THE PEOPLE are paying for his cover up with OUR money, not his.

So you'd agree that Chris Christie definitely bilked the people of New Jersey, yes? Even if he pays the money back to the state, he's paying the money back WITH THEIR MONEY. That's your argument here - that nobody who has a job has their own money, because it's always dependent on someone else who pays them.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:40 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Have at it, you two. As far as I'm concerned, you're as much a weiner as the media, Raptor, for your desperate need to go on and on about people you hate. What about Chris Lee? Not a peep out of you then that I recall (tho' I'm not here that much, might have missed it?), and he even resigned!

The whole thing is assinine. If someone's account was hacked, it's not a case for the fibbies or they'd be drowned in hacking investigations. If it wasn't hacked, it's not worth a minute's thought, any more than Lee's SHOULD have been. Many pols have had no trouble surviving things FAR worse. I just saw a quote on TV where someone said all that's been made of this, the jokes even by supposedly serious news reporters, just shows that we haven't evolved past the sixth grade. That's about it for me.

Go on with what will be predictably your overblown descriptive adjectives and insistence it's something big, call him names and immediately believe he's some kind of sleazeball without proof of anything, it makes no difference. It's a non-story, JUST as much as Lee's was (except insofar as Lee was apparently looking for love on Craig's List...I believe he's married?). The woman says they're not involved, and in BOTH cases it doesn't matter to me if they WERE. It's none of my business, and we've gotten to the point where one has to be absolutely squeaky clean to get elected to anything above dog catcher! It's disgusting.

Mike, you're "half a weiner" for engaging him as if this were a serious issue. So there. ;o)

We live in strange times. Ensign is doing fine, thank you, and that guy and his Argentine mistress seem to be okay, far as I know, and the media is obsessed with one Weiner? Get a grip!

Now, the John Edwards thing is MORE real, certainly. Funneling of campaign funds, and whatever else the investigation shows, needs attention. But if he's got an illegitimate kid by a mistress, so the hell WHAT?! Hey, I voted for the guy, and I still say he was talking logically and realistically about issues that everyone else started talking about six months LATER; sleaze ball or not, at least he was talking about uncomfortable things we need to deal with. I'm glad he didn't get the nomination, but I'm not sure how much better Obama is...all I know is that either of them is better than McCain/Palin would have been! (shudder)

But THIS bullshit? Give me a break!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Sunday, June 5, 2011 2:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

What about Chris Lee ? He resigned, which is what Weiner should do as well. But because he's s Democrat, he'll cry victim status, and you'll blindly hold him up as one of your champions.

Spitzer ? Clinton ? Barry ? Edwards ? Kennedy ?

And who could forget this gem ?

I love the fact that Weiner got caught tweeting a pic of his junk to a co-ed. It's very note worthy, as it shows everyone what a dirt bag this high profile dick is for the Democratic party.

And Niki ...

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you're as much a weiner as the media, Raptor, for your desperate need to go on and on about people you hate.

I didn't start this thread. YOU did.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, June 5, 2011 4:53 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
What about Chris Lee ? He resigned, which is what Weiner should do as well. But because he's s Democrat, he'll cry victim status, and you'll blindly hold him up as one of your champions.

"He's s Democrat"?

Watch out for that traffic, boyo!

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Spitzer ? Clinton ? Barry ? Edwards ? Kennedy ?

Craig? Foley? Sandford? Gingrich? Ensign?

Quote:

I love the fact that Weiner got caught tweeting a pic of his junk to a co-ed. It's very note worthy, as it shows everyone what a dirt bag this high profile dick is for the Democratic party.

Someone said in another post...

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So, someone w/ a vendetta out against this guy makes up a vulgar [photo], puts in on the internet, along w/ a web site set up to attack him and his character, and you try to play it up as something of any merit or interest ?

Pretty much what I'd expect from the likes of you.

Childish, petty and not worthy of any real discussion.

Who would have said such a thing about such an earth-shattering news story?

Probably the moron who thinks a phony picture and a hacked Twitter account equate to a national security issue.

That would be you, Rappy, in case you're too dim to figure it out.

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And Niki ...

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you're as much a weiner as the media, Raptor, for your desperate need to go on and on about people you hate.

I didn't start this thread. YOU did.

Really? Did you really just go with the "YOU STARTED IT!" whinge? Wow. You really are 9 years old, aren't you?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, June 5, 2011 7:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yes, I started this thread. But note what I was SAYING, which is that everyone gloming onto this story and giving it such attention is the weiner. That means you, and you did precisely what I was complaining/making fun of; you made it a huge deal. It’s not, in my opinion, any more than Lee’s fiasco was.

I’m assuming Mike’s quote came from you, and wondering if it was about Lee’s debacle:

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So, someone w/ a vendetta out against this guy makes up a vulgar [photo], puts in on the internet, along w/ a web site set up to attack him and his character, and you try to play it up as something of any merit or interest ?

Pretty much what I'd expect from the likes of you.

Childish, petty and not worthy of any real discussion.

If it was, that’s precisely what irritates me about you; if it’s one side, you’re quick to say “fake!”, if it’s the other, you condemn out of hand without ever considering it might be a hoax, and are quick to call the person in question by the worst possible adjectives you can think of. It’s truly pathetic, and certainly robs you of any validity whatsoever.

As I also said, I don't know why Lee was so quick to resign over his kerfluffle, especially as so many have survived MUCH worse...I think there may be more to it than we know, perhaps, but it's not worth speculating about. Throughout history pols have done stupid things, and most of them have survived when people's attention is caught by other things and the furor dies down. Why Lee resigned, so quickly, eludes me. And there's no WAY I want someone who does a decent job as a legislator kicked out for stuff like this. If we judged everyone by these standards, few would EVER keep their jobs.

You obviously didn’t get it at all. I put the post up to point out how our culture is so quick to latch onto ANYTHING salacious and make it news, especially the unimportant peccadilloes of people in the public eye. Your list of “offenders” on the left can easily be matched (and bettered) by those on the right, as Mike showed; the only difference is that those on the right have consistently claimed the high ground on “family values”, so when it’s shown that they’ve been just as much scumbags as those on the left (who never claimed such), they show their hypocrisy even more blatantly. If they’d stop that shit, people wouldn’t laugh so hard when they get caught.

Rather than counter your silly list with the HUGE list of right-wing scandals, I’d suggest anyone go to http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals for a pretty good list of them. Or http://www.slate.com/id/2165783/ at Slate, which has an adorable video “An Illustrated Guide to GOP sex scandals. Just Google “Republican Scandals” and have fun.

Of COURSE Googling “Democrat Scandals” brings an equal number of hits, and there’s a good list at http://www.ranker.com/list/democrat-sex-scandals/web-infoguy , which is precisely my point. You can’t point fingers at either side exclusively, and to attempt to do so is idiotic in the extreme.

What it comes down to, in essence, is what Slate wrote: “But as the saying goes, with great power come great opportunities to screw up royally.” That’s about it, in my opinion. If it doesn’t affect the country and doesn’t break the law, screw it.

But as I said, and as was the point of this thread, it’s totally absurd to me how supposed “news” shows grab on to things like Lee and Weiner, play them to death, and make a big deal out of them. Neither one should be of the slightest interest to anyone, and has NOTHING to do with their legislative quality. Humans fuck up, but I care more about whether a legislator does his JOB right than what he does on his own time. Ergo, my crack that the media is the REAL “weiner”, as are those who are hung up on the stories, fits you precisely. You actually made my point quite well, for which I thank you.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Sunday, June 5, 2011 7:52 AM

KWICKO

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I’m assuming Mike’s quote came from you, and wondering if it was about Lee’s debacle:

It was about "santorum". Pretty close to the same thing, though. :)

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Sunday, June 5, 2011 4:26 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Niki -

Drawing attention to an issue by posting a topic on it , and then getting miffed when folks are drawn to the topic you posted...

When ever you're done w/ your CRAZY time, check back w/ me, k ?

wow.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, June 5, 2011 6:54 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Hey Raptor, KMA -

I EXPLAINED how you got the meaning of this thread wrong, that's all, and I certainly wasn't "miffed". Merely amused that you represented precisely what I was talking about and don't even see it!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 9:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Weiner gate growing ?

pun intended.

News conference cometh...

Another woman, more naughty internet stuff claimed...

*edit*

This was indeed a press conf called for BY the Weiner camp, where Weiner supposedly will deny that he's stepping down. While at this presser, Andrew Breitbart , who is on a book tour, got word of this event, showed up, and members of the media there asked HIM to step up and address the whole issue.

Breitbart called for an apology from the Congressman, that there are NEW photos and messages with another woman, and that it validates the original story....

This isn't a scam, or set up. Cong. Weiner will address the media, ( eventually ) and say something... not sure what. But he's NOT stepping down.

Or so we're told

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 10:26 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Lying Weiner fesses up -

NOT A HACK ! HE DID IT !

Kwickie, Niki -

A total facial on y'all !

This likely will shake your faith and understanding of your entire world view. There was no hack. There was only 1 reason for not calling the FBI and Cap Police, because there WAS NO CRIME to report.

This is the standard by which Lib Dems like Weiner operate, and should be an example for pretty much everything you THINK is real, or hold to as to who these people are and what YOU believe.

There was no defense for his actions. All that crap about Breitbart hacking into his account, or having it done... ALL this fiction brought up by others saying there was some curious comments prior to the news breaking, and the 1st photo coming out...were themselves the made up part of this story.

KOS is 100% unreliable.

Breitbart is 100% vindicated and validated as true, above board and honest.

As I suspected to be the case, all along.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 11:28 PM

DREAMTROVE

Gotta admit that there is humor value to the situation. Even Jon Stewart stuck his neck out to defend this guy.

ETA: Lib Dems are a libertarian UK Party.

Nice to see the wife not have to do the walk of shame.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Gotta admit that there is humor value to the situation. Even Jon Stewart stuck his neck out to defend this guy.

ETA: Lib Dems are a libertarian UK Party.

Nice to see the wife not have to do the walk of shame.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

Congressman Weiner - dunno. make me an offer i can't refuse.

Ms Weiss - to get us in the mood. first we watch back to back episodes of the daily show and colbert report…then, to really spice things up we go deface all of my neighbor's sharon angle yard signs…then when we are really hot we go to the bookstore and cover all of the glen beck
books with copies of "the audacity of hope!"…i do this about once a week (you can tell i am a very exciting girl!)…or if this is not your thing, we can just get drunk and have mad, passionate
sex!

Weiner - why choose? with me behind you can't we both watch daily show?

Weiss - Hhaha! see…you are always thinking! you are so right…aahhh the perfect liberal evening!
i hear liberal girls are very, uh, accommodating of others
of course! it is all about taking care of the little guy!

Weiner - little?! ouch. you'd be surprised how big -

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Wiener-Facebook
-Transcript-Watermarked.pdf

Jonny boy's GOTTA be lovin' all this !

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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