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Giant whirlpools sink ships in Atlantic Ocean

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:21 PM

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US scientists discovered two giant whirlpools in the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Guyana and Suriname. It became a sensational discovery because this part of the ocean has been studied thoroughly, and no one expected anything like that to appear in the area. More importantly, no one can understand where the whirlpools came from and what surprises they may bring to people.

According to Brazilian scientist Guilherme Castellane, the two funnels are approximately 400 kilometers in diameter. Until now, these were not known on Earth. The funnels reportedly exert a strong influence on climate changes that have been registered during the recent years.

“Funnels rotate clockwise. They are moving in the ocean like giant frisbees, two discs thrown into the air. Rotation occurs at a rate of one meter per second, the speed is sufficiently large compared to the speed of oceanic currents, on the border hoppers is a wave-step height of 40 cm,” Castellane said.

Even during the dry months, when the movement of oceanic currents and the flow of the Amazon River practically comes to a standstill, the funnels do not disappear. Therefore, the nature of the funnels does not depend on the flow of water, which one of the world’s biggest rivers brings into the ocean. The natural phenomenon, which creates the whirlpools, is unknown to modern science.

As a matter of fact, the phenomenon of giant whirlpools in the World Ocean is not new to science. In most cases, the craters, or rings, as scientists call them, are formed as a result of so-called vertical currents. The latter, in their turn, appear because of differences in water density which appear because of difference in temperatures of water layers. It is an open secret that cold water is thicker and heavier, so it goes down, underneath the masses of warm water, which is lighter. This is the reason why warm currents in the World Ocean always flow closer to the surface, whereas colder currents flow closer to the bottom.

However, such movement of water may not always depend on the difference of temperatures of the water column. The difference in salinity can also be a reason. The mechanism here is the same. The density of saltier water is higher, this water is heavier and it moves closer to the bottom, pushing less saltier water up. This type of vertical fusion occurs frequently in the tropics because high temperatures lead to the evaporation of water from the surface. The salt does not evaporate with water, though. It stays in the ocean, which raises the level of salinity on the upper layer of water. This layer “drowns” and gives way to less saltier waters of the depth.

Such vertical movements of water create giant whirlpools. The whirlpools, tens and even hundreds of kilometers in diameter, may last for months and even years, scientists say. The vertical movement of waters is a slow process, though. Why do those whirlpools exist for such a long time? This is partially the effect of Earth’s magnetic field. In addition, marine water contains many charged ions, Na and Cl for example. To crown it all, water molecules are dipoles that are charged both positively and negatively.

Any dipole starts spinning when moving in the magnetic field. An oceanic ring gathers millions of billions of molecules together. That is why the giant circle movement triggered by the vertical movement of water may last for months and years mechanically. Ions also give more power to the craters. Natrium and Chlorum are charged as well, and their movement in the magnetic field of the Earth also leads to the appearance of the circle movement.

It is not ruled out that the reason for the appearance of the whirlpools off the coast of South America is the same as in other parts of the World Ocean. Scientists are currently studying the influence of those giant funnels on the climate of Latin America and Africa. Such whirlpools show influence on the atmosphere and form cyclonical air mass. They can also affect the movement of air mass formed in other places. For the time being, scientists do not know how the newly discovered water craters can affect the climate of Central and South Americas.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:40 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


That's really interesting! I like it when people discover things we didn't know about. Has anyone seen that Mythbusters episode where they take the speed/size of the biggest/strongest whirlpool to see if it could sink a ship. Well it doesn't work, the ship wouldn't sink, but maybe these new ones are bigger/more powerful and the MythBusters will have to try it with the new data, that would be interesting.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:

Has anyone seen that Mythbusters episode where they take the speed/size of the biggest/strongest whirlpool to see if it could sink a ship. Well it doesn't work, the ship wouldn't sink, but maybe these new ones are bigger/more powerful and the MythBusters will have to try it with the new data, that would be interesting.



Giant methane bubble attacks can sink ships in the Bermuda Triangle. The specific gravity is much lighter than water, so boats sink like a stone.

Throw in giant rogue waves, and you've got yerself a spot in Davey Jones' locker.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:46 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Well, there's Charybdis, so where's Scylla ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylla_and_Charybdis

This is especially hilarious to me in an ironic way cause when I reviewed Anime for Roundtable I did so under the name Vengeful Charybdis - eventually Yuriko joined... as Scylla Seamonster, and pity the poor fool who asked for a review of his badly-written, didn't-even-read-the-source fanfic when we BOTH obliged him... we started calling the poor bastard Odysseus after that, heh.

Right up till I called some of em out for flaming stuff they actually hadn't even watched, and things went to hell, anyways.

-F

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:56 PM

DREAMTROVE


A whirlpool *can* sink a ship, as happened in the recent Japanese disaster, a couple of them. You gotta cast an eye of skepticism to mythbusters, they get their kicks out of disproving things, and they're a little gung ho on it. I find them to often be wrong.

But there's something wrong with this picture. Nothing on the Earth can be 400 kilometers across and not have attracted a little attention. That made me check the source.

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Pravda, or course, is a tabloid. Find a source, and let me know if you have a story. Until them, I'm assuming that the pic is of the recent earthquake driven whirlpool off the coast of Japan, which I admit was a massive menace.

Reminds me of the pictures of Katrina striking from a couple years back.

These ones?



http://www.flixya.com/photo/189313/Amazing-Katrina

Really? At nearly 200mph, with a 40mph+ downdraft, and some trillion tons of water vapor at 6 am, preceeded by a storm surge 20 feet to say nothing of the intense fog and torrential downpour, you got that picture?

They were actually of course, Kansas, where this sort of this happens all the time. It's the dry hot climate which kicks up the thunderstorm preventing it from breaking that creates the spectacle.

If you have something, I'm interested, but it's gotta have a better source than the people who brought me "space aliens spread leprosy."


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:09 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Well MythBusters did it with thelargest continual whirlpool, and the way they did it made sense to me. I like that show.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:46 PM

DREAMTROVE



Continual whirlpools tend to not sink ships. It's when you have a major event like an earthquake, because suddenly there's a gap in the world, and it's like a drain where someone pulled the plug. I saw two ships go down on video in Japan. Ergo, it does happen.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:36 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Pretty pictures...as to the rest, I'm not buying it. But thanx for the pics anyway, both of you.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Friday, April 15, 2011 4:29 PM

HARDWARE


So, what was the name of the ships that sank in these whirlpools? Come on PN, calling you on your bullshit.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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