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Friday, March 4, 2011 3:32 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Never said anything about human blood. Or urine.

Human tears are my preferred beverage, but its hard to get enough to really quench your thirst.

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Friday, March 4, 2011 4:06 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Never said anything about human blood. Or urine.

Human tears are my preferred beverage, but its hard to get enough to really quench your thirst.




Wrong again....beat any human's child in-front of them they will shed enough tears to fill your cup.....it is true.

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Friday, March 4, 2011 5:09 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Sure, but I don't drink cow's milk OR human milk and I think y'all are weird.

Additional note: Even after pasteurization, milk can become contaminated. Psychologically the concern here is disease spread, there's a good reason why, as the article says, adults have a hardwired response about drinking body fluids.


Yep, but with treatment the liklihood of disease passing from animal to human is diluted. So is having clean, humane conditions for animals.

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Friday, March 4, 2011 5:11 PM

BYTEMITE


Happy: It's possible that being breast fed exposed you to allergens early on, and the method of exposure prevented you from developing an allergic reaction to the allergens.

Similarly, consumption of honey can improve a persons reaction to pollen allergens.

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Friday, March 4, 2011 5:14 PM

BYTEMITE


Still a concern.

I really wouldn't want to accidentally drink milk with even destroyed HIV in it that got through the screening process. The thought is alarming and disturbing. And I'm not sure if a retrovirus might be resistant to normal forms of pastuerization, I could imagine ways in which it might me. A retrovirus has TWO coats, what if you only end up destroying one of them?

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Friday, March 4, 2011 7:51 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Still a concern.

I really wouldn't want to accidentally drink milk with even destroyed HIV in it that got through the screening process. The thought is alarming and disturbing. And I'm not sure if a retrovirus might be resistant to normal forms of pastuerization, I could imagine ways in which it might me. A retrovirus has TWO coats, what if you only end up destroying one of them?



More disturbing is how they are getting the milk. Do they pay mothers? Do mothers volunteer? Why would you send you milk to a restaurant - why not a bank for babies, which happens here? What makes anyone think - oh, I think I going to express some milk for the cafe up the road. What a great idea.

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Friday, March 4, 2011 8:29 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:


More disturbing is how they are getting the milk. Do they pay mothers? Do mothers volunteer? Why would you send you milk to a restaurant - why not a bank for babies, which happens here? What makes anyone think - oh, I think I going to express some milk for the cafe up the road. What a great idea.



Very good point.

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Saturday, March 5, 2011 2:30 AM

DREAMTROVE


Disease comes overwhelmingly from other humans because diseases are mostly species specific. We get rid of those which are visible, or come from visible sources, like snot on the kitchen table, but we miss others, like sweat on a doorknob. Our environment is not all that clean. Should we disinfect doorknobs? Probably, but a simpler solution would be not have public doorknobs that were used by thousands of people a day.

I re-iterate, the biggest reason this is a bad idea is the same as monetizing water. The breast milk of the third world would be sold to wealthier countries. This becomes even more of a threat when you take Mince's definition of third world. Women in West Virginia will have to sell their breast milk to women in the eastern seaboard who have more money.

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Saturday, March 5, 2011 4:49 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


My little brother is the biggest milk drinker of anyone I know. When given a choice of what he wants to drink he nearly always chooses milk, chooses it over all juices etc. I think it will be good for him in the long run.

But is anyone else interested in going for my Milkins venture? Minus the human milk of course.
:)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Saturday, March 5, 2011 5:29 PM

BYTEMITE


I dunno about rats, don't they spread Hanta virus?

There could be lots of other stuff as people try out milk from other species comes up. You can pastuerize but it still concerns me.

Maybe this is a business for particularly risk-taking types. And that's coming from someone who likes trying weird food like eel and sea urchin and escargot.

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Tuesday, March 8, 2011 2:46 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

I can't figure out if this sentence is saying contracting a disease from a cow or goat is more likely or contracting from a human is more likely. Both are viable contagion pathways

A documentary I watched recently made the point that animal milk was actually a relatively clean source of fluid for our ancestors to drink - compared to stream water/well water or whatever. Add to this its richness in vitamins, minerals etc.

Lactose tolerance is something we've had to evolve, we didn't use to have it (and some of us still don't) - but evolution has deemed it a worthy trait.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, March 8, 2011 3:10 PM

BYTEMITE


Lactose Intolerance, eh? I heard that was actually something about the specific version of lactose found in cows milk.

Also, in addition to milk, concerns about contaminated water was why so many people used to drink alcohol. It's true!

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 2:32 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I re-iterate, the biggest reason this is a bad idea is the same as monetizing water.

Uh, I don't think human milk will ever become that popular.

But that aside, if someone wants to express milk to sell, it is no different than selling plasma or semen. It's their bodies. If they want to do it, why should we stop them?





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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 10:26 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


I'm not a big fan of people selling any of their bodily bits. All that stuff is not legal to sell here. Same as ovas, or use of wombs for surrogacy purposes.

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Friday, March 11, 2011 2:59 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I can understand why people used to drink alcohol instead of water, the water used to get all nasty because people had crummy sewage systems, if any at all, and they all didn't understand how germs were spread so they'd just crap near the water. So Byte is right about that one.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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