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Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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President Barack Obama on Thursday announced steps to limit new oil drilling and exploration as the investigation of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill continues, telling the American people that he is "fully engaged" and ultimately responsible for what he called a catastrophe.

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Obama said the government would seek aggressive new operating standards and requirements for offshore oil companies. For now, he said, the government was suspending planned oil exploration of two locations off the coast of Alaska, canceling pending lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico and the proposed lease sale off Virginia, and halting the issuance of new permits for deep-water wells for six months.

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The main problem, Obama said, was that BP and other oil companies -- along with federal regulators -- never properly determined or prepared for a worst-case scenario.

"On a whole bunch of fronts, you had a complacency when it came to what happens in the worst-case scenario," he said.

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Obama also said the oil spill showed the need for the United States to transition from an oil-based energy system to renewable and cleaner sources of energy that are developed and produced at home, instead of imported from abroad.

While America will continue to use oil in coming years as part of the transition, he noted that the deep-water well involved in the current spill showed how reserves were more difficult to exploit and therefore included more risk.

"The easily accessible oil has already been sucked out of the ground," Obama said. "... We as a society are going to have to make some determinations about what risk we are willing to accept."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/27/obama.drilling.moratorium/index
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I'm attempting to post just relevant material in future, without the entire article...if you want to know more, you can use the link. Just FYI, that's why of the ...s.

Now, for those wondering, from the same article:
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In reaction to the new steps, Democratic Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska expressed "frustration" about the administration's new roadblocks for the state's oil industry.

The decision "will cause more delays and higher costs for domestic oil and gas production to meet the nation's energy needs," Begich said, as well as costing money and jobs in Alaska.

Begich conceded that the Gulf spill "highlighted the need for much stronger oversight and accountability of oil companies working offshore," but said Shell Oil "can safely explore for oil and gas this summer in the Arctic."

So. Anyone who thinks this has or will have a lasting effect on those with the mentality that we need to "Drill, Baby, Drill" to suck up every last pathetic teaspoon of oil...which will do NOTHING to lower the price of gas, here's your response. Don't highlight that he's a Dem, you Dem-haters, or I'll quote you twice as many Repubs. It's POLITICIANS who can't see beyond their noses, and for whom nothing means anything if it doesn't impact their ideologies and/or bottom lines. Let's at least agree on that.

He's right about alternative energy; every President for who knows how long has made the same statements, but which of them have ever done anything?By the way, the "moratorium" doesn't seem to bother the MMS:
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MMS continues to issue new drilling and related permits, as well as environmental waivers that assume no environmental impact on activities just like those which resulted in the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe. But MMS and Interior pretend these newly permitted activities are exempt, grandfathered or different. From the Times:
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In the days since President Obama announced a moratorium on permits for drilling new offshore wells and a halt to a controversial type of environmental waiver that was given to the Deepwater Horizon, at least seven new drilling permits and five waivers have been granted, according to records.

The records also indicate that since the April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon, federal regulators have granted at least 19 environmental waivers for gulf drilling projects and at least 17 drilling permits, most of which were for types of work like that on the Deepwater Horizon shortly before it exploded, pouring a ceaseless current of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

Asked about the permits and waivers, officials at the Department of Interior and the Minerals Management Service, which regulates drilling, pointed to public statements by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, reiterating that the agency had no intention of stopping all new oil and gas production in the gulf.

It’s not surprising that there would have been ongoing activities at previously permitted wells that would be "grandfathered," even though even those should have been reexmined, because the so-called "moratorium" was supposed to apply to "new permits." But apparently MMS and Dept of Interior are stretching that concept beyond recognition to minimize the moratorium’s scope.
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“We’re also closing the loophole that has allowed some oil companies to bypass some critical environmental reviews,” he added in reference to the environmental waivers.

But records indicated that regulators continued granting the environmental waivers and permits for types of work like that occurring on the Deepwater Horizon. . . .

None of the projects that have recently been granted environmental waivers have started drilling.

However, these waivers have been especially troublesome to environmentalists because they were provided through a special legal provision that is supposed to be limited to projects that present minimal or no risk to the environment.

At least six of the drilling projects that have been given waivers in the past four weeks are for waters that are deeper — and therefore more difficult and dangerous — than where Deepwater Horizon was operating. While that rig, which was drilling at a depth just shy of 5,000 feet, was classified as a deep-water operation, many of the wells in the six projects are classified as “ultra” deep water, including four new wells at over 9,100 feet.

In testifying before Congress on May 18, Mr. Salazar and officials from his agency said they recognized the problems with the waivers and they intended to try to rein them in. But Mr. Salazar also said that he was limited by a statutory requirement that he said obligated his agency to process drilling requests within 30 days after they have been submitted.

With, uh, all due respect, Mr. Secretary, this reeks of bad faith and deliberately misleading the public, not to mention executive malfeasance in continuing to allow an agency both you and the President described as operating outside the law to risk endangerment of the public and environment. If the original permits were granted through waivers that did not comply with NEPA, then rescind them.

At a minimum, a moratorium on safety-affected activities to assure full compliance should apply to every activity, previously permitted or not, that involves such critical stages as securing/cementing off a new well and for which the reliability of those measures, the Blowout protector and other critical safety and mitigation features has not yet been confirmed.

The Secretary of the Interior is telling us the executive branch is powerless to stop now demonstrated potential threats to public safety by oil rig operators whose initial permits likely never complied with the nation’s environmental and safety statutes in the first place. If anything, Interior and MMS should be pushing to expand the reach of this essential safety check, not minimize it.

Is there any accountability in this Administration? Because this shell game should get some people fired.

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/50359

Damned straight! THEN we need to put a full-court press on alternative energy. But even that is a half measure at this point:
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President Barack Obama used the growing oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to renew his pitch for alternative energy Wednesday, arguing that the unfolding environmental disaster "gives you a sense of where we're going" without comprehensive reform.

"The spill in the Gulf, which is just heartbreaking, only underscores the necessity" of seeking alternative fuel sources.

A failure to enact comprehensive energy reform, he argued, would pose a threat to national security and the economy, as well as the environment.

Obama's remarks came two weeks after Sens. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, and Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, introduced a sweeping energy and climate change bill intended to cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions while reshaping the energy sector.

The House passed its own energy bill last year, and Obama has said he backs the efforts by Kerry and Lieberman to move the issue forward in the Senate. The president asked for Senate GOP cooperation on the issue during a closed-door meeting Tuesday with Republicans on Capitol Hill.

The proposal addresses a range of energy issues, including expanded nuclear power production, incentives for the coal industry to seek cleaner methods, money to develop alternative energy sources and programs to help U.S. industry in the transition to a low-carbon system.

On climate change, the measure seeks escalating reductions in greenhouse gas emissions in coming decades that match the levels set as goals by the Obama administration and contained in the House bill. Among other things, the proposal calls for emissions reductions from 2005 levels of 17 percent by 2020, 42 percent by 2030 and 83 percent by 2050.

The Senate proposal includes expanded offshore oil drilling as part of a strategy to increase domestic production. However, provisions strengthening the ability of states to prevent more drilling off their coasts were added in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Mind you, I disagree with coal, nuclear, and the idea the moratorium will be lifted in the foreseeable future, but it's more than has been done before. That counts for something, in my opinion, especially since this was denied/ignored by the last administration in favor of "coddling" (as someone said) Big Oil.

But continuing to issue permits? What gives?!?!




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Saturday, May 29, 2010 10:08 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I believe that the future success of alternative energy will be linked to the future success of energy storage technology. The problem is often NOT an insufficient availability of energy, but rather an inability to store it effectively and efficiently. I dream of a day when we can capture lightning in a bottle, and let it out at will. I dream of solar powered houses with no need to connect to the grid, because a simple, safe battery holds all energy excess and stores it in near-lossless readiness until it is needed. I dream of electric cars that can be charged in minutes and run all week.

I think it's all possible.

The future of energy lies in capturing it.

--Anthony


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:51 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"New York (CNN) -- As BP attempts to stop the oil bleeding into the Gulf of Mexico, it appears the company's CEO, Tony Hayward, has finally begun to set expectations. But frankly, after more than five weeks of fumbled fixes, low-balled spill estimates and growing environmental disaster, they really couldn't be any lower.

Rules number one through 100 in crisis planning are this: Have a plan. BP didn't, and its plunging share price is telling the story. President Obama's poll numbers are his stock, and they aren't doing much better.

A USA Today/Gallup Poll this week found more than half the country disapproving his efforts in the Gulf. With the tragedy becoming almost as much a story of optics as of breakdowns, the blame game quickly turns zero-sum. And as the narrative has gone from spill to crisis to catastrophe, the pendulum of blame has started to swing away from BP and toward President Obama.

This is no longer an isolated incident; it's our country's call to action. At the bottom of that drill was not only oil but also the decades of failed energy policies that made us want it.

And it's this confluence that has put the president on the defensive this week in his press conference Thursday and his visit to Louisiana, but it also gives him the chance to perfect his tackling.

Until now, his general absence from the scene has looked like an absence of care. He needs to be in the Gulf Coast more regularly than he has. He needs to talk about the problem more regularly than he has. One of the principles of crisis communications is that actions have to accompany words. For the president to use the pulpit to bully BP and stand up for the taxpayer is right -- but the proclamations can't be hollow.

The departure Thursday of the Minerals Management Service director, Elizabeth Birnbaum, was a good start, whether she resigned or was fired. And it helped when the president declared Friday that he was ultimately responsible for solving the spill crisis. "I'm the president and the buck stops with me."

But President Obama needs to continue a thorough, top-down assessment of the Departments of Interior, Energy, the Coast Guard and other key agencies, holding the highest-level officials responsible for their progress on a moment-by-moment basis.

He also should use his one-of-a-kind convening authority to bring the brightest experts, engineers, and environmentalists to the Gulf until the region is whole. BP can't bring everyone to the table; only the president can.

But these moves are still being played on defense -- and none of them will change the arc of the story as it's developing so far. The nation is focused; the most presidential thing the president can do is go on offense. He needs to lead in advancing a new way of thinking about oil and move the country toward comprehensive solutions for our energy woes.

He has the long-term vision for U.S. energy policy already; he now has to meet the short-term mission of selling it. Doing so will change the question from "Is this Obama's Katrina?" to "Is this Obama's magnum opus?" It's not good publicity for the sake of it; it's the right thing for our country.

For better or worse, the most consequential developments in Washington happen at times of crisis. We're living one of those moments today. The president should show more of his hand and less of his cool on the spill, but he also must take the opportunity of his time and his stage to lead us into a true era of energy independence. After that, the PR will speak for itself.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Michael Gordon."

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Hello,

I found this opinion piece on CNN. It closely mirrors many of my own opinions. I think this writer has spoken more eloquently than I have on the topic.

--Anthony


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:59 PM

GEEZER

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I believe that the future success of alternative energy will be linked to the future success of energy storage technology. The problem is often NOT an insufficient availability of energy, but rather an inability to store it effectively and efficiently.



That's gonna be the problem for quite some time. With all the downsides of petroleum-based fuels, they are portable, compact, easy to store, and easy to transfer from bulk storage to end-user equipment - be it cars or generators or heaters.

Until there's some way to store electricity several generations better than current battery technology - in weight, complexity, charge time, bulk-to-user transfer, and safe disposal - fossil fuel will be necessary.

I'm also expecting that when solar or wind energy generation ramps up to an appreciable portion of electrical generation, say 25%, they will be found to create environmental concerns of their own.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, May 29, 2010 2:24 PM

DREAMTROVE


Uostate NY is a big alt energy areai believe we invest more in alt energy than any other residential population, so i hear a lot of this. Be a rin mind we consume a lot of energy, it's largely heat here, but there's also a lot of industry, etc.

Probably the largest single energy saver here is more efficient use, reducing overall consumption. Almost nothing actually requires power, and most things that do, don't require nearly as much as they use.

Batteries are important, but also efficiency, and non-battery storage, for instance, heat can be stored in heated oil which radiates, if this is done in the basement, it has real possibilities. A lot of people also have solar heated pipes on the roof that circulate down, with no real electrici involved.

As for cars, a lot of efficiency can be gotten by redesigning the car. After that, public transportation, car carrying trains, etc. Can reduce it a lot. Even more for trucks. I think some serious electric rail would also help here.

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