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BP oil leak explodes, BP kills live videocam, BP shuts down Alaskan oil pipeline

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British Petroleum owns half of Alaskan oil pipeline, shuts it down after oil leak
http://cryptogon.com/?p=15652

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British citizen Obama is an agent for Nazi King of England
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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:48 AM

BYTEMITE


...I don't think this is a coincidence anymore. Either they're being very sloppy with set-up and maintenance, or they're doing it on purpose.

Saying it isn't coincidence or accident, what could their game be? They don't make any money by shutting down production.

Could it be a supply/demand thing? Trying to get more money for what oil they ARE selling? Who's the target of the price jack? Or, are they trying to turn people off from oil for some reason? I know BP has been quietly investing in green technology, have they set up golden parachutes and are now taking a fall for TPTB?

It could theoretically just be incompetence, but I don't want to underestimate any of these people.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


BYTE: You're giving BP waaaaay too much credit. BP's investment in "green energy" is something like less than 2% of their budget- hardly a basis on which to turn your company.

Nope, it's just good old-fashioned greed, combined with wishful thinking and incompetence. People have been saying for years that the BOPs (blowout preventers) have never been fully tested at these depths, and that rather than perform failure analysis they're just patched up and put back into service. BP isn't even doing basic engineering on its existing equipment, why do you think they'd look into disaster planning? Having an effective Plan B and Plan C costs money. LOTS of money. Can you imagine being an engineer at BP and proposing to your management that they come up with a way to stop a major deepwater spill before a spill has even occurred? Testing and building capture boxes and sippy straws and secondary BOPs at depth is a huge investment. You can tell they didn't have a Plan B because they're obviously making this up as they go along.


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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:28 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Testing and building capture boxes and sippy straws and secondary BOPs at depth is a huge investment.


Even more huge than most people realize, Signy. Salt water is AMAZINGLY corrosive. It eats concrete, chews right through steel - the very things most well-heads and BOPs are made of! As a result, you need to not only have multiple redundancy in backup BOPs - you also need to maintain, repair, and replace them at regular intervals. Pretty much anything man-made that you put into the ocean is going to dissolve - except oil and plastics. Hey, maybe someone can design a BOP made out of recycles water bottles! ;)

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:36 AM

BYTEMITE


Two major newsworthy spills in the same month?

I dunno... Maybe it's my crazy paranoid conspiracy theorist side talking, but what're the odds of that?

I mean, maybe it's a product of the same breakdown in maintenance and safety that caused the Deep Horizons explosion, but do we know that yet? I mean, the Alaska Pipeline is on land. If it were an explosion in Prudhoe Bay I might say we're looking at the same failure of safety measures, but this seems like a failure of two different safety measures, which makes me wonder what's going on.

Budget cuts? Something else?

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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:25 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Less than you think - ever since 1998 or so, I have been observing a phenomenon, which I don't think the BP rig spill here is related to, mind...

I call it the "Spring Petrol Accident Rush", a sudden surge in petroleum related accidents which conveniently serves to drive the price up during what would normally be a slump, but what really drew my attention about a year later, was how these accidents very rarely caused any injuries or loss of product, and yet were used as justification all the same.

The real rum dinger was some oil company official saying that prices would remain constant unless there was something like... a refinery fire or something, and he said that with this really, really strange edge to his voice that caused my head to snap around at the TV my friend was watching and go, hmmmm.

Next day, well well wouldn't you know it, lo and behold a refinery fire - if you can call it that!

Supposedly lighting hit an empty tank, somehow managed to ignore the fact that it was firmly and properly grounded, and scorched the paint a little - cue drum banging and cries of woe from the same company who's rep made that odd statement, and wouldn't ya know it, a price increase, over a 14" scorch mark that looked entirely too deliberate and didn't harm nothin but the goddamn paint.

Then there was the seriously suspicious pipeline failure up here a while back, and I began pokin at it in a halfass kinda way, but not much, since they got all the justification they needed for price manipulation about a year later, you know ?

But yes, if you noticed a right-on-schedule string of suspicious no-loss "accidents" and a big price spike every spring/summer up till 2001, you're not mistaken, nor are you alone in noticing that.

-F

ETA: I dunno if they still work the contract, but back in the days of Eagle/A-1, one of our affliated companies did security for the Alaska pipeline, and instead of bringing in outsiders, what they did is went around to the locals, especially natives, and explained what would HAPPEN to their home turf if something happened to the pipe, then passed out job applications - but last I heard, and this was a while and more ago, they had gotten into some fracas with the company for having the nerve to blow the whistle on some serious safety violations.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:31 PM

BYTEMITE


...:(

THAT'S what caused the Deep Horizon fire! Only it went wrong and they lost control!

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