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Palin to Tea Party: 'Pick a Party'; Joe the Plumber to McCain: 'You screwed up my life'

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:45 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Let's see. She was a featured speaker at the Tea Party Convention, right? And they paid her over $100,000 to speak, am I right? So now she's telling them to give up on fighting RINOs, give up the ultra-conservative idealogy and just pick one of the two useless parties she's derided so well for so long. Uh...huh. She just gets better and better.
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Palin tells audience "Tea Party movement is not a party"

Yesterday at an event hosted by the Arkansas Republican Party, Sarah Palin told the audience that the Tea Party is not strong enough to field its own candidates on a Tea Party ticket so they need to pick a Party, preferably the Republican Party.

In a report by CBS, Palin gave a 45 minute speech, which was followed up by a Q and A session (preselected questions) moderated by Arkansas Republican Party Chairman Doyle Webb inside the 18,000-seat Verizon Arena, where less than half of the seats in the lower bowl were occupied, and the entire upper level was shrouded by black drapes.

Palin called the Tea Party movement, "a grand movement" adding, "I love it because it's all about the people."

Right after she heaped praise for the Tea Party she moved in for the kill to try and pull the Tea Party over to the dark side, I mean the Republican Party, the GOP (Grand Obstructionist Party), the "Party of No", the conservatives.

Palin told them; "Now the smart thing will be for independents who are such a part of this Tea Party movement to, I guess, kind of start picking a party," Palin said. "Which party reflects how that smaller, smarter government steps to be taken? Which party will best fit you? And then because the Tea Party movement is not a party, and we have a two-party system, they're going to have to pick a party and run one or the other: 'R' or 'D'."

Well there you have it, Palin tell the Tea Party that they cannot field their own candidates and that while they are "a grand movement", vote for Republicans because we are the Party of small government and fiscal responsibility, even though every republican president the last 50 years has nearly doubled the size of the government along with the national debt.

Palin marginalized the Tea Party with her saying that they are not capable of running their own candidate and then ridicules them some more by saying that its time to pick either the "R" or the "D". Palin knows that they have already qualified candidates in some States such as Nevada where the Tea Party is now recognized and they are running their own candidate against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV).

The Tea Party should tell Palin that she and her Party are not one of them, the GOP does NOT represent the Party of small government and fiscal responsibility, and that they will support the candidates that they want, not the candidates that the Republican Party tells them to support.

http://yodasworld.newsvine.com/_news/2010/02/17/3907738-palin-tells-au
dience-tea-party-movement-is-not-a-party


Looks like "Joe the Plumber" is dumping the "cause" as well, or at least the guy who made him famous. Let's see, according to Wikipedia, he got a book deal ("Joe the Plumber: Fighting for the American Dream") out of it, is famous, speaks at Republican eventsm had a campaign to put him in Congress started for him (which he says he's "up for"), has signed with a publicity management agent regarding media relationships, including "a possible record deal with a major label, personal appearances and corporate sponsorships", was hired for a series of commercials reminding people to convert analog television to digital, began work as a motivational speaker and commentator where he commented from Israel on the fighting between the Israeli Defence Forces and Hamas, spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference, the Washington, D.C. American Tea Party protest in Lafayette Park, attended two conferences in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, first speaking to the "Conservative Young Professionals of Milwaukee" and then at the “Defending the American Dream Summit", spoke at the Michigan Tax Day Tea Party, appeared at a campaign event on behalf of New Jersey Gubernatorial Candidate Steve Lonegan, spoke at a Tea Party protest at Veteran's Park in Milwaukee and attended a political event for Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate, Sam Rohrer. Now he says:
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Joe the Plumber dumps on John McCain and Sarah Palin
Before sinking back into well-deserved obscurity, Sam Wurzelbacher says John McCain 'really screwed my life up'

He wasn't a plumber and his name wasn't Joe – but he became famous for 15 minutes during the 2008 presidential elections after John McCain decided to latch on to him during the Republican campaign's death-spiral.

Still not comfortable with his inevitable fate as a future Trivial Pursuit question, Joe – real name Sam Wurzelbacher – still pops up at fringe political events. And this weekend it finally dawned upon him what presidential campaigns are all about – and what his precise role in 2008 was.

Scott Detrow, a reporter for Pennsylvania Public Radio, heard Wurzelbacher speaking at a Republican gubernatorial candidate's gig in Pennsylvania, in which he laid into Palin and McCain, calling McCain a "career politician" and lambasting Palin for supporting McCain's Arizona senate primary race (where McCain is struggling to see off a red-meat Republican challenger).

Detrow asked Wurzelbacher why he was biting McCain's hand, after it was McCain who shone the national spotlight on him by repeated references in a presidential candidates' debate. "I don't owe him shit. He really screwed my life up, is how I look at it," Wurzelbacher told Detrow. "McCain was trying to use me. I happened to be the face of middle Americans. It was a ploy."

President Obama, on the otherhand, got more respect from the artist formerly known as Joe the Plumber: "I think his ideology is un-American, but he's one of the more honest politicians. At least he told us what he wanted to do." And Wurzelbacher also had common-sense views on the crazies who dispute Obama's nationality and compare him to Hitler. "The birthers, the truthers — if people are trying to bunch them [with tea partiers], that would kill us. That just pushes away Democrats and independents who might come out for our cause otherwise."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/feb/16/joe-the
-plumber-palin-mccain


Yup, McCain really screwed up his life!

Eatting your own much, guys?




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Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Maybe Palin just now realized how the tea-baggers are more likely to pull votes from Republicans than Democrats, and could very well COST conservatives seats in the mid-terms...

Mike

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:07 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You think she's just realizing that now? You don't think she's known it all along, and just strung them along for what she could get out of them? Really??



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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Niki2:
You think she's just realizing that now? You don't think she's known it all along, and just strung them along for what she could get out of them? Really??





On the one hand, I *don't* think she realized it before now. I think she thought that Republicans could ride this wave of anger at the status quo into more seats, and that nobody would realize that THEY were just as big a part of the status quo as the Dems.

On the other hand, Sarah has always been in it for Sarah. No matter what McCain's slogan was, hers has always been "Sarah First". So she'll play it any way she can - even up to and including using her own book sales to launder money into her personal accounts - just so long as at the end of the day, she gets paid.

In that respect, she's a die-hard Republican. It all comes down to money and greed, as it always must. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, rivers must flow to the sea, and Sarah must chase the money. Why else do you think she flew home to Alaska when she was 9 months pregnant? She had to make sure to get that socialist gubmint handout check for having her baby in Alaska!



Mike

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:13 PM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by Niki2:
You think she's just realizing that now? You don't think she's known it all along, and just strung them along for what she could get out of them? Really??



I think she didn't know any of it, and I think she doesn't know now. When speaking to Teabaggers, she said what they'd hoot and holler over. When speaking to Republicans (as she was in the article above), she said what they wanted to hear. And I bet she didn't even think about whether it made sense.

Seriously, all these bloggers trying to figure out her "plan" are wasting their time. She doesn't have one. She's not bright enough. She does what fits the moment without worrying that folks may take notes and see inconsistencies in her message. It doesn't matter to her, and she won't even see it herself. She'll just cry "Unfair liberal media!" and go on with her day.

Yes, I think she's that stupid. Unfortunately, so are her fans.


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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:16 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You could either or both be right, I guess we'll never know. Pretty pathetic, whichever one is the answer, eh? And she was supposed to be VP...wow. Actually, not that either answer makes her any worse than most candidates, come to think of it...



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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:24 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Well, in fairness, they actually think she's going to be PRESIDENT in a few years. Me, I think she's a stalking horse, just sent out to draw our attention away from their real candidate. In essence, it's her job to look SO bad that when we see who they really run for the presidency, we'll collectively go, "Oh, yeah - he's not so bad. I could live with him as President."

I'll give you a bit to mull that over.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:32 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Ah, and I just ran across an EXCELLENT take on this I was gonna post as it's own thread, but it's more appropriate here.

Taking Tea with the Lizards
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/01/taking-tea-with-the-lizards.html

Joe B nails it dead-bang-square, that's very much worth the reading, cause he takes a stab right at the amount of programming and conditioning these goons are playing on, a form of psychological exploitation I know all too well.

Oooo, oh that's just MEAN, Goons... Goony Goons, heheheh.

Heheheheheh...

Ok, Something Awful has a collective of rabble rousers of the worst order, known as "Goons", which are damned near *infamous* for massive scale retaliatory behavior, most recent of which was joining an MMO run by cheating, griefing pricks who outright cheated using their status as developers.. and crushing them on every front, brutally.

Imagine Mikey's snark combined with Wulf's rabidity, and multiply that by TEN THOUSAND.

Now ponder siccing THEM on hypocritical, fulla shit politicians ?


Soooo tempted to wander over there and start giving "ideas" while playing on crowd dynamics and net-community social dynamics....
Monkey Wrench in the works does not even BEGIN to describe it.

-F

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:42 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Ah, and I just ran across an EXCELLENT take on this I was gonna post as it's own thread, but it's more appropriate here.

Taking Tea with the Lizards
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/01/taking-tea-with-the-lizards.html



That was a good read, thanks.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:50 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Wow. Excellent, thank you. Absolutely on point.



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