Gardasil Researcher comes clean. by Fremdfirma

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Gardasil Researcher comes clean.

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Saturday, October 31, 2009 20:13
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Friday, October 30, 2009 1:33 AM

Gardasil Researcher Drops A Bombshell
Harper: Controversal Drug Will Do Little To Reduce Cervical Cancer Rates
http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/10/25/top_stories/doc4ae4b76d07e16
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The article is pretty damning of it's inefficiency, but doesn't really delve into the danger of the adjuvant reactions which seem to be the source of the damage caused.

This bit in particular is very telling...
"When asked why she was speaking out, she said: “I want to be able to sleep with myself when I go to bed at night.”

I think it's a bit late for that, but understand the sentiment completely.

-Frem

There always has to be a price.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 4:13 AM

DREAMTROVE

Or about the manner in which it was administered. I'm always a little more skeptical, and suspect that perhaps they've come up with an antiviral drug that will make more money.

After researching a bit more, I found that the virus enters the system through the mouth at a young age. the vaccine science is sound, but would be more effective and less lethal if administered as a pill or lozenge, or better yet a mouthwash.

The cancer research done for this in general will be invaluable, the deaths here are the result of arrogance and stupidity, which alas are likely to stay with us.

Things the medical community needs to learn:

1) This isn't an emergency, it's okay if it takes a month to develop a resistance

2) Some people will already have the virus, and might die from a high dose of antigen.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 5:32 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"Dr. Harper, who also serves as a consultant to the World Health Organization, further undercut the case for mass vaccination by saying that “four out of five women with cervical cancer are in developing countries.”"

This is something I've known about for decades, literally.

(As a former medical-type person, I've read many, many articles about the difficulty of doing routine PAPs in poor countries where lab facilities to process and read the biopsies - which is what a PAP is - are non-existant. The alternative to PAP smears is this:

"Johns Hopkins in cooperation with the University of Zimbabwe ... how to help the suffering women in third world countries afford cervical cancer screening. It turns out that there is a very simple test involving vinegar and gauze. The cervix is wiped with vinegar and then visually inspected. Tissue harboring precancerous lesions turn white when exposed to vinegar. This simple test detected almost twice as many cases of disease as pap smears did."

This is ALSO a good alternative for women who do not get routine PAP smears in the US due to lack of insurance. OR - we could get government-run health care and fix that problem.)

For third-world countries, vaccinations for many diseases are the best alternative for saving lives. Unfortunately, due to the economics of the medical business - which, as a business is all about maximizing profit and not about need - effective vaccines for things like malaria, TB, sleeping sickness, E coli, cholera etc are not being developed, since there is higher perceived profit elsewhere - like Viagara.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 11:13 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Thank you for that useful information and tip, Rue - I will be certain to pass it on to RAWA and see if they can't translate it and make sure it gets around.

Don't take me wrong, I'm not anti-vaccination per se, it's just that how the Gardasil matter was handled was downright criminal and seeing my initial suspicions come true in a horrifying fashion over time along with some very close personal consequences has been somewhat traumatizing, you understand.

At least as far as flu vaccs go, if one is determined and informed, it's possible to get a non-adjuvant, non-preservative single dose - something well worth it if your risk factors make it a necessity.

It was never the idea of vaccination bothered me so much as that there were safety issues that no one was addressing, and I considered "acceptable losses" to be a damn poor excuse for not doing so.

One can hope adjuvants, and adjuvant/preservative reactions will go the way of aspartame and just quietly go away - while not the course I would have chosen by preference, it comes to a choice about it... less harm is infinitely preferable to revenge, even if I am obligated for reasons I will not explain to get it.

-Frem

There always has to be a price.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 11:47 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Now its "required" for boys...

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:13 PM

DREAMTROVE

Quote:
how the Gardasil matter was handled was downright criminal

No argument here. In fact, that was the main point we reached, it was a productive discuss, this was horribly mismanaged, and not only does that cause senseless tragic deaths, but undermines the underlying science.

At the heart of it, viruses, the earth's most prevalent "lifeform" by an extremely wide margin, are responsible for probably the majority of our health problems, and are sulfur-based, and so will never have components that we have. Viral defense is essential.

However, there's no excuse for provoking adverse immune responses, especially intentionally, nor for experimenting on the populous. Adjuvants are uncalled for, as are direct injections, not to mention not testing people ahead of time to see if they already possess antibodies, AND not holding them in medical care for the rest of the day to see if the DO develop adverse reactions (It's almost a lock that any of these deaths could also have been stopped if the patient were under supervision by an immune suppressant)

But worst of all are these blood vaccines that carry hitchhiker viruses to the vaccinated patients, something which has probably killed more people over the last century than war.

Part of my concern of the whole "Healthcare bill" is that no one is addressing the issue of our Medical establishment. If you think our Education establishment is out of control incompetent, check out the Healthcare sector. If a teacher lays a hand on a kid, they're in trouble plenty, and rightly so, but if a doctor kills a kid, he might bother to apologize, or might not. His call really.

We were just talking about zombification Risperidone. I particularly liked this snippet "Risperidone removes neurotransmitters dopamine and serotonin from the system so that they never reach the receptor." Um, side note: Those are the major NTs used in higher thinking, that would turn anyone into a zombie.

I just saw a snippet of TV: The number of ads for this sort of junk is impressive: "Wash away your problems with Deathforall. Remember, Deathforall is not for everyone, ask your doctor if Deathforall is right for you. (Deathforall may result in the extermination of the human race. Use only as directed.)

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