Just Like Beggar's Canyon , Back Home... by out2theblack

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Just Like Beggar's Canyon , Back Home...

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UPDATED: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:53
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Sunday, June 7, 2009 7:59 AM

Recent soaring video out of California...I'll admit to having polished some rocks in the Sierras myself , but these guys are in another league entirely...

As in , Frakkin' Bonkers !

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Sunday, June 7, 2009 8:16 AM

CHRISISALL

AWESOME!!!
Very aptly named thread, Out2!

The impressed Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 7, 2009 10:30 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Buzzing hikers. Sounds like a jet. "Pull up pull up!" Spooky! Yeah, don't look like much lift down in the canyon. I wonder what their max speed was to carry them through? Very unnatural looking. Freaky to have to take the wings off your airplane before and after each flight.

If you're bored on a sunday with nuttin good on TV, and you're procrastinating yardwork like me, here's some more video goodness:

A little Pink Floyd:

Germany built gliders and trained all their military pilots after WW1, because they were prohibited from building engined aircraft. So the German companies are world leaders in glider tech. It's like the Japs building motocycles while rebuilding their military industrial complex after WW2.

If you haven't flown in a glider, you need to do it. Reduces fear of an engine failure.
http://ifrpilot.blogspot.com/2009/04/off-airport-landing-captured-on-v
ideo.html

I used to bum free rides at RAF Bicester glider club in England. No ridges, just thermals. Biggest danger was hitting the other 30 gliders in the area. Lots of military jet pilots did it to improve their skills, and taught their whole family. Some of the family gliders were gigantic monstrocities that looked like WW2 seaplanes.

More whacked out airsports:

Best part of flying is no stinkin speed limits. On my local scanner cops just chased and arrested a sportbiker for speeding, and are chasing another one. Did the same last week when I was out riding the Dragon. But the drunken criminal biker gangs on Harleys are left alone to do their crimes, hanging out with cops, crashing into sportbikers headon (5 such crashes last week).

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Monday, June 8, 2009 8:31 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
AWESOME!!!
Very aptly named thread, Out2!

The impressed Chrisisall

Thanks for sayin'...

I recognize one of the vids PN brought as being from Bruno's Soaring Pages , which is a good site to visit .

http://phoebus.vassel.com/

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Monday, June 8, 2009 8:40 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

The v-tailed bird in PN's "Soul Flyers" is an H101 Salto , which is also flown by my airshow friend , Manfred Radius .

Manfred is the Yoda of glider acro . I was fortunate to arrange to crew for him at a show , and my friend Buckley flew the towplane...

I'd like to have a Salto , but it only accepts small and light pilots for acro , so there be no point...

More about Manfred Radius :

http://www.radiusairshows.com/presskit.htm

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Monday, June 8, 2009 9:22 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

The T-tailed bird in PN's 'Ribbon Cut' video is
a Pilatus B4 . It's been out of production a long time now , but I used to lust after it when I was in Primary flight training .

Pilatus is a Swiss company that builds very fine flying machines , including the turbine Porter that happens to be one of the world's greatest bush aircraft . Downey, Jr. and Mel Gibson made it sorta famous in 'Air America'. Actual x-cia birds were acquired from a Thai scrapyard and cobbled back together for the film .

The 'Swiss of Eastern Europe' , the Czechs , build some fine gliders like the Blanik L-13 and the L-23 Super Blanik . This is the same aircraft industry that produced the combloc trainers L-29 Delfin and L-39 Albatros .

The L-13 Blanik flies just like a jet , which is appropriate since a lot of Mig-21 pilots began their flying careers in this glider .

L13AC , Acro version of the original L-13 Blanik

Inside an original L-13 on approach

Blanik L-13 on the ground

Belgian L-13 pilots on the ice at Wave Camp

More from Belgian Bruno Maes :
http://www.brunomaes.com/Picture3.html

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Monday, June 8, 2009 11:00 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Very fascinating, O2B.

My flight experience is limited to single and dual engine ultralites since I have utterly no "official" qualifications - and US legal ultralights are basically an overweight, underpowered airframe with 1-2 engines on it.

The FAA deliberately sets up the regs to make them very unsafe (you can be fined for building in excess/emergency capacity) so that the inevitable wrecks then "justify" their insanely exploitative schedule of fees, permits and other administrative bullshit in the name of "safety" (Read: Profit) despite the fact that required "safety" equipment has caused so many overloads and crashes, and puts most aircraft (and soon, cars - look how expensive that shit is makin em?) out of the financial reach of most ordinary folk.

Seriously though, it takes some heavy brass ones to fly an ultralite, and more than a little skill in both powered and unpowered operation & concepts.

Although too old for it anymore, I've flown everything from a glider wing powered by a pair of chainsaw engines to the GT400 series, and one of my reasons for preferring 2stroke engines as a whole is that anything else is too goddamn heavy to power one, you see.

Any nitwit can fly a plane, any nitwit can land a plane - it's only once you have landed the SAME plane, twice, that you're a pilot.

You can do some wacky things with ultralites too, if you know how, one of which involves turning the thing into a stiff wind and performing a STOL launch, or using a trick made famous by the Fiesler Fi 156 Storch, and using a headwind to make a feather-drop in-place landing.

-Frem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_156

Oh, and here's some SIM info you wanna try the Gt400 for yourself.
http://www.x-hangar.com/gt400.htm

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Monday, June 8, 2009 3:35 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

A vintage poster at the flight school here in Knoxville posted teh requirements for getting a pilot license in the 1920s: (1) start motor, (2) take off into the wind, (3) circle the airfield, (4) land without crashing.

Now its almost so complicated only a robot can get a license. Unless you fly gliders or ultralights.

I've ridden a couple of flights in trike ultralights. Felt like riding a motorcycle at 100,000 feet.

Ultralights are a growth industry, with the cost of a new aircraft less than a new car, and no license nor vihicle registration required. Free fligth training is available, but not required.

100 mph with no speed limit until the wings fall off, parachute cannon included
www.ultralightamerica.com/spitfire_ll_pricing.htm

Quote:
What is an Ultralight Aircraft?

Vehicle not required to meet any airworthiness certification standards

Pilot not required to meet any aeronautical knowledge, age, or experience requirements to operate or to have airman or medical certificates.

Not required to be registered or to bear markings of any type.

From the freedom to fly unregulated with a few public safety limitations the industry has successfully self regulated.

www.all-about-ultralights.com/faq.htm

Constitutional Right to Travel without a Driver License Contract
75% of Judges Lack a License to Practice Law
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2009/03/constitutional-right-to-trav
el-without.html

Quote:
FdL County will reconsider airport license ordinance

Law prohibits unlicensed fliers from landing

March 17, 2003

WISCONSIN - Threatened by the loss of millions of dollars of federal funding, Fond du Lac County is taking another look at an ordinance that prevents most ultralights from landing at the Fond du Lac County Airport.

The ordinance that prohibits unlicensed pilots from landing at the airport blocks most ultralight and powered parachute fliers because most of them don ’t have pilot licenses, said Wayne Geis of Fond du Lac, an avid ultralight flier and licensed instructor.

On Tuesday, the Fond du Lac County Board is expected to consider a resolution that would eliminate the pilot license requirement, said Fond du Lac County Corporation Counsel Bill Bendt.

http://archives.californiaaviation.org/ganews/msg10400.html

http://archives.californiaaviation.org/ganews/msg10400.html

Poor man's flight training at 150 mph

Flying is the definition of freedom. Which is why the NWO wants to kill it.

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:10 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Ran across this article in an engineering magazine , which can be read online , it's interesting and amazing at the same time :

http://machinedesign.com/article/windward-performance-designs-and-manu
factures-sailplanes-and-gliders-the-perlan-to-set-altit

I'd wondered what would become of the Perlan project since Fossett's disappearance , and now I know that it will continue...

Some great Links and Video are also available with the article .

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:02 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Knowing your interests and experiences , Frem , you will likely get a kick out of this site :

http://home.att.net/~m--sandlin/bug.htm

It's good for folk who like to 'roll their own' , at low cost...

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:25 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:

I'd wondered what would become of the Perlan project since Fossett's disappearance , and now I know that it will continue...

Because Fossy aint dead, and his "widow" got a $50M insurance benefit.

A name like "Polar Vortex" sounds a little deadly. Especially with the Van Allen Radiation Belts pumping nuke radiation straight out of the ground - or is only the N Pole deadly? –100°F is also deadly.

Photos of Saturn's poles show a hexagon shape of clouds, so perhaps Earth's S Polar Vortex is not round?

The astronot pressurization system would be very heavy, but I guess the wingspan could be increased to handle the gross weight.

No worry about the missing Ozone Hole, since S Pole only gets that during the 3-month-long night in winter, when the Polar Vortex storm hits. Ozone can only be made by sunlight, so of course it disappears when there's no sunlight.

Mach .6 at -100 F at 90K feet appears to be 400 knots, not 300 knots. No available data for that altitude.

300 knots is 345 mph. 400 knots is 460 mph. While looking out a frosty porthole...

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:29 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:

It's good for folk who like to 'roll their own' , at low cost...

Did you see the episodes on Discovery Channel, one USA and one UK, of competitions to build airplanes in 1 day from ordinary junk in a junkyard, THEN FLY IT? Junkyard Wars perhaps?

They did actually fly a fair distance, then crash.

Mad Max would be proud.

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:34 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Ayep, O2B - that's yer basic "easy-riser" airframe, sans engines.

Gimme two chainsaws and about four hours in my shop and you wont need a truck to launch it no more.

One of the coolest things about most ultralite models is that if you suffer engine failure, run out of gas or what have you, you can still deadstick it like a glider, which is basically what it is, a glider with a lil engine or two on it.

Funny this topic pops back up today - I had to run outta here early this morning to fix some nimrods engine mounts...

The dumbass didn't have enough runway, so him and his brother in law decided to try using his truck and some rope in combination with the engines to try and short launch it (almost WITHOUT A DOUBT preceeded by "Hey Y'all, watch this!") and unfortunately his brother in law with the truck was too busy looking BEHIND HIM, to notice that he'd drifted off the path and was headed for a small but substantive tree...

And is now nursing a serious case of whiplash and a knot on his noggin the size of a golfball.
Which doesn't piss him off half as bad as bashing up the front of the shiny new truck his wife was pissed enough about him buyin to begin with.

And somehow, the airframe wound up going nosefirst into the turf, prolly due to the OTHER idiot panicking and driving the stick forward while the tail was just starting to lift, although with this particular pair of morons I'd just about believe anything up to and including the ghost of charles darwin throwing lightning bolts at them.

The airframe is undamaged, but imma need to pull the props off and clean the dirt outta the motors if any got in there - but mostly the engine mounts need replacement and realignment cause one of em is quite clearly bent, and imma get around to that when I damn well please.

And that's gonna be a while, cause their wives showed up at the local scratch and dent clinic and they were NOT HAPPY, you could almost hear the Gotterdammerung, Act 3 backgrounding them - and since their husbands are off-limits, so far as that whole dismemberment thing goes, and I happen to be the crazy old man who sold em their stupid little airplane - exit, stage left, and quickly.

And imma stay the hell AWAY from that, for a good long while - they can pick the damn thing up when I get finished, cause damned if I trust them morons to tie their own shoes, much less bolt the mount assemblies back on correctly.

And yes, I think it's funny too - but damned if I want either the harpies those dorks married getting in range to claw my eyes out, mind you.

*shaking head*
This is what ya call baiting Darwin.

-F

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:51 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Re: Junkyard Wars.

Some of the small engine enthusiasts were gonna field a team, a while back - and I was on it, hell I was the first one they picked!

But being suspicious already as it become clearer and clearer that the "junk" was planted and the guy they foisted off on the teams had full creative control and full veto power - when we asked about that, errrm...

Basically Junkyard Wars is a lot like the WWF, see ?

And we weren't gonna have any part of something like that - have you ever seen what HAPPENS when you get "in the way" of a hyperfocused ITSP "madboy" in full bore mad scientist mode ?

(Credit to Girl Genius for the link, awesome comic)
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20021218

Here's a hint - if you see me with tools in each hand cussing other peoples blind stupidity and piss poor engineering in a nonstop monotone, GO AWAY, come back later, right ?

You can prettymuch imagine what would happen when I started going off-plan and the planted "expert" started takin issue with it...

-F

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Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Re: Junkyard Wars.

So what else happened on the set? How much pay?

Yeah, hard to make an airplane out of rusty Ford Pintos. Pre-staged or not, it's still a pretty darn good accomplishment. Makes you think ancient engineers really did figure out how to fly.

Is there anything Hollywood, NY or BBC does that's not staged?

Even Speeders on Court TV is fake, with fake pre-arranged traffic stops requiring multiple takes.

Even the $64,000 Question gameshow was fake.

I'd believe Junkyard Wars flying an airplane before I'd believe that NASA walked on the Moon. At least JYW actually showed video of flying and crash-landing, shot on location.

I saw that JYW epp after I got back from Bend Oregon, building a $700,000 Lancair jetprop out of plastic. 50% has to be built by the owner to count as "homebuilt", but that rule is heavily bent, mostly by full-time contractors (which is probably a good thing). We glued the fuselage and wings together just like a model airplane from Walmart. Jet engine from Czech Republic, major body parts from the Phillipines. For some reason I didn't want to fly in it at 400 mph. But it sure was pretty:

No audio but 1:40 shows how fast it can go:

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