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Polygamist Pedophiles and Papal Pontifications
Friday, May 2, 2008 2:49 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: In the coming weeks there will be mass arrests of both the abusing men and the "batterred-wife-syndrome" zombie wives who provided enablement and structure for these vile acts.
Friday, May 2, 2008 3:06 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, May 2, 2008 3:30 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Friday, May 2, 2008 4:08 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Links or it didn't happen.
Friday, May 2, 2008 4:15 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Friday, May 2, 2008 4:19 AM
Friday, May 2, 2008 4:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Just for you Jong, since like many of your ilk, you seem to suffer temporary illiteracy when someone prints something you do not want to believe. FLDS adults not suspected of abusing boys http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5747898.html "State authorities are investigating whether younger boys taken from a polygamist ranch in West Texas were sexually abused by older boys, not adults, a state official clarified Thursday." Let me translate that for you. "Ok, yes, we lied to whip up more hysteria and you caught us, oops." Almost every press release so far has been outright bullshit - you'd think after six or seven that sensible folk might get a LITTLE skeptical, yes ? -F
Friday, May 2, 2008 4:55 AM
Quote:Where is your head most of the time?...In the sand , or up your ass? You are a total whack job freak who envisions a world you've manifested in your little head. A sad little misguided fool at best, a useful idiot agent of chaos at worst.
Friday, May 2, 2008 5:14 AM
Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:35 AM
REAVERMAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Surely, if the alleged men involved were partaking in something that had been going on for likely generations and had been so far separated from the "real world" that it was perfectly okay for them, some sort of leinancy should be shown and some kind of understanding and forgiveness for their actions.
Quote:Just remember people.... IF this all really did in fact happen the way that the knee-jerkers in here said that it did, the boys in this cult, for lack of a better word, who themselves became the men in this cult, were just as indoctrinated into the way of life there that the girls were.
Quote:If this really did happen, above all else I think we need to realize this and find some understanding. I don't believe that there was much of any evildoing for the sake of doing evil going on here.
Quote:This was their way. It might be the wrong way, and it definately is a way that is very foreign to the greater society's way, but it was their way, and I believe that there was love there among many of the people involved.
Quote:All of these people may very well be completely messed up in the head and if we're going to violently thrust them from their womb and assimilate them like Borg, well.... the least we could do is give them the courtesy of a reach-around after giving them such a vile shafting that they shan't soon forget.
Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:48 PM
Quote:Assimilating them is exactly what we should do, not the pansy PC way the State has gone, sending them to foster parents who will be sensetive about their ridiculous faith. Wipe their cult from the face of the Earth. Lock up their religious leaders where they can't spread their message, burn their "holy" texts, and ensure that from this point on, no human being will be enslaved by their fundamentalist lunacy ever again.
Sunday, May 4, 2008 4:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I'm down with that on one condition. I get to start with you mainstream christian fucks first.
Quote:Believe me, I would be MORE than happy to even *kill* the whole fucking lot of you, Christians, Muslims, Zionistas, and every goddamn "true-believer" on the planet who thinks they have some kind of divine fucking right to force their morals and beliefs down the throat of everyone else.
Quote:But I would never, EVER, not in a million years try to force my standards, morals or beliefs down their throats, because you know what - I consider that to be worse.
Quote:You got a right to believe what you believe, but you AIN'T got no right to force that shit on anyone else, or attempt to revoke someone else's right to believe...
Quote:Might I remind you that the original bullshit warrant that sparked this was pitched out like the worthless trash it truly was today, and of course the State means to cover it's ass, but that and the lack of charges leaves them nothing ELSE to hold against these folk but their beliefs.
Quote:They have punished them without a trial, or even the accusation of a crime, a form of persecution most folk whine about only when they are on the recieving end, and crow about when they are on the giving end, a disgusting and revolting bit of hypocrisy that shows the true nature of these monstrous beliefs in a hideous "deity" who slaughters and tortures the innocent for amusement.
Quote:Of course, if yer like most folk I am just wasting words, cause they hold even to their own supposed morals only when it is safe and convenient to do so....
Quote:...To YOUR equally "ridiculous" faith ? Cause I'd have NO problem with that at all.
Quote:Still sound like a good idea, you twit?
Quote:And as a final note, how the hell can you claim respect for our country and it's laws on one hand, and then propose something right out of Joe fucking Stalins playbook on the other ?
Sunday, May 4, 2008 3:32 PM
Monday, May 5, 2008 1:38 AM
Monday, May 5, 2008 4:33 PM
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 5:07 AM
SERGEANTX
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 5:51 AM
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 6:11 AM
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 6:50 AM
FLETCH2
Tuesday, May 6, 2008 4:33 PM
Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Just too many damn fools willing to join the lynch mob, and too few who understand that allowing the rights of others to be violated invites the violation of your own.
Thursday, May 8, 2008 3:47 PM
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Friday, May 9, 2008 4:37 AM
Friday, May 9, 2008 5:17 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Friday, May 9, 2008 5:49 AM
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Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:21 AM
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:22 AM
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:57 AM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Democratic Republic, actually, which semantic differences happen to be MUCH larger than most uneducated/under educated people would assume. Democracy - government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. Democratic Republic - a form of government embodying democratic principles and where a monarch is not the head of state. We happen to be both a Democracy and a Republic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
Quote:In republics that are also democracies the head of state is selected as the result of an election.
Quote:The ancient Greeks were just a democracy.
Quote:Then they started pukeing all over the place and had lots of unbridled butt-love right before they fell. Actually.... when put that way, maybe we're not so different from the ancient Greeks afterall. Only time will tell....
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:54 AM
DEADLOCKVICTIM
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:45 AM
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:23 PM
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Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:59 AM
Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:57 AM
Quote:Look, I have always been pro individualism - live and let live is a personal rule, but to see someone basically brainwashed from childhood to be subservient to a group not of your own choosing seems to do nothing to promote individualism. I'm certainly not against anyone's right to choose what religion or lifestyle they want to follow, but I respect a persons right to make their own decisions and not be led by the nose by some false authority figure...
Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I didn't condemn it at all, in fact if the State had left well the hell alone or even played by the rules - it could have sparked all manner of social and moral pressure upon them and inspired folk to take action within the law to discourage or influance that behavior.
Quote:And if you'll excuse me, I gotta try to get across to them the horrors that exist in that can of worms they're trying to pry the lid off right now....
Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:43 AM
Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:49 AM
Quote:... which eventually pissed off the USDOJ and things went all cowboy from there - and now that they've had a taste of hoo-rah, they're fiending for more, and eyeballing people who WILL kill some of them rather than be masscared like what happened in Waco, or functionally destroyed like what happened here.
Friday, May 16, 2008 2:27 AM
Friday, May 16, 2008 5:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I can't even discuss this with you because your biases are so obscenely obtuse.
Friday, May 16, 2008 7:22 AM
Friday, May 16, 2008 8:36 AM
Quote:What you're talking about here is racism through religious intolerance.
Friday, May 16, 2008 4:21 PM
ERIC
Quote: Texas checking how many sect 'girls' are women SAN ANTONIO - When Texas child welfare authorities released statistics showing nearly 60 percent of the teen girls taken from a polygamist sect's ranch were pregnant or had children, they seemed to prove what was alleged all along: The sect commonly pushed girls into marriage and sex. But in the past week, the state has twice been forced to admit "girls" who gave birth while in state custody are actually adults. One was 22 and claims she showed state officials a Utah birth certificate shortly after she and more than 400 minors were seized from the west Texas ranch in an April raid. The state has in custody two dozen other young mothers and others whose ages are in dispute. If most of them also turn out to be adults, it would be a severe blow to the state's claim of widespread sexual abuse. If it turns out the other 24 disputed minors are adults, the number of actual 14- to 17-year-old girls with children could drop to as low as five or six. That would amount to about one-fifth of the girls that age found at the ranch — substantially higher than the average rate of teen pregnancies in Texas but a far cry from 60 percent.
Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by deadlockvictim: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I can't even discuss this with you because your biases are so obscenely obtuse. I think you are reading more into my post than is actually there - being biased was not my intention - I was simply offering information on alternative reading material and commenting on the content - If you are looking for a prolonged theological argument on be merits or lack thereof of any particular religious sect or cult... you are barking up the wrong burning bush... I really don't put much stock in such superstitious dogma... sorry for pissing you off -
Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:53 AM
Quote:When the state fails to follow the simplest laws and procedures, are the people who live under it freed from any similar obligation?
Monday, May 19, 2008 4:15 AM
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