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Saturday, April 5, 2025 3:33 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force. So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.
Quote:The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year. The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year. The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.
Quote:I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency. Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure. The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.
Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018. The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
Saturday, April 5, 2025 3:34 AM
Quote: The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. Except possibly 2010, 2011, 2016. The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.
Saturday, May 3, 2025 3:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
Saturday, June 7, 2025 4:51 PM
Thursday, July 3, 2025 11:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 Jn25 07460 04.4% 1862 09322 4577 13899 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
Friday, August 1, 2025 12:00 PM
Friday, August 1, 2025 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 Jn25 07460 04.4% 1862 09322 4577 13899 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jl25 07847 04.6 1751 09598 4729 14327 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 Jn25 07460 04.4% 1862 09322 4577 13899 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jl25 07847 04.6 1751 09598 4729 14327 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 Au25 07747 04.5 1791 09538 4632 14170 274001 171035 62.4 08.2 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 Jn25 07460 04.4% 1862 09322 4577 13899 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jl25 07847 04.6 1751 09598 4729 14327 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 Au25 07747 04.5 1791 09538 4632 14170 274001 171035 62.4 08.2 Se25 07324 04.3 1807 1.1 09131 05.3 4183 2.4 13314 07.8 274226 171217 62.4 07.7 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
Tuesday, December 16, 2025 4:45 PM
Tuesday, December 16, 2025 4:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 Jn25 07460 04.4% 1862 09322 4577 13899 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jl25 07847 04.6 1751 09598 4729 14327 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 Au25 07747 04.5 1791 09538 4632 14170 274001 171035 62.4 08.2 Se25 07324 04.3 1807 1.1 09131 05.3 4183 2.4 13314 07.8 274226 171217 62.4 07.7 Oc25 No25 07401 04.3 1873 09274 5350 14624 274633 171467 62.4 08.4 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
Monday, February 2, 2026 8:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6: I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2 Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report. Quote:I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency. Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure. The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unemp Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pct InvPT Pct Total Pcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U6% Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8 Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4 Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3 Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5 Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8 Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1 Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5 Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5 Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0 Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9 Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2 Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2 Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1 Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9 Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4 Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0 Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3 Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2 Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4 Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5 Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0 Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5 Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1 Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9 Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8 Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7 Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0 Ja22 07207 04.4 1623 1.0 08830 05.4 4094 2.5 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9 Ja23 06378 03.9 1434 0.9 07812 04.7 4401 2.7 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4 Ja24 06778 04.1 1757 1.1 08535 05.1 4803 2.9 13338 08.0 267540 166428 62.2 08.0 Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9 Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6 Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1 Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4 My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3 Jn18 06812 04.2 1437 0.9 08249 05.1 4974 3.0 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1 Jl18 06730 04.1 1498 0.9 08228 05.0 4701 2.9 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9 Au18 06370 03.9 1443 0.9 07813 04.8 4263 2.6 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4 Se18 05766 03.6 1577 1.0 07343 04.5 4238 2.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1 Oc18 05771 03.5 1491 0.9 07262 04.5 4169 2.6 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0 Nv18 05650 03.5 1678 1.0 07328 04.5 4512 2.8 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2 Dc18 06029 03.7 1556 0.9 07585 04.6 4621 2.8 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5 Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8 Fe19 06625 04.1 1424 0.9 08049 04.9 4477 2.8 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7 Mr19 06382 03.9 1357 0.8 07739 04.8 4548 2.8 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5 Ap19 05387 03.3 1417 0.9 06804 04.2 4424 2.7 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9 My19 05503 03.4 1395 0.9 06898 04.2 4070 2.5 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7 Jn19 06292 03.8 1571 1.0 07863 04.8 4529 2.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5 Jl19 06556 04.0 1478 0.9 08034 04.9 4017 2.4 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3 Au19 06203 03.8 1564 1.0 07767 04.7 4237 2.6 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3 Se19 05465 03.3 1299 0.8 06764 04.1 3925 2.4 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5 Oc19 05510 03.3 1229 0.7 06739 04.1 3961 2.4 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5 Nv19 05441 03.3 1246 0.8 06687 04.1 4053 2.5 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5 Dc19 05503 03.4 1246 0.8 06749 04.1 4170 2.5 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7 Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7 Fe20 06218 03.8 1494 0.9 07712 04.7 4501 2.7 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4 Mr20 07370 04.5 1380 0.8 08750 05.4 5788 3.6 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9 Ap20 22504 14.4 2211 1.4 24715 15.9 10524 6.8 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4 My20 20514 13.0 2292 1.5 22806 14.4 10286 6.5 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7 Jn20 18072 11.2 2486 1.5 20558 12.8 9210 5.7 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3 Jl20 16882 10.5 2027 1.3 18909 11.7 8521 5.3 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8 Au20 13742 08.5 2083 1.3 15825 09.8 7387 4.6 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3 Se20 12277 07.7 1921 1.2 14199 08.9 5901 3.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4 Oc20 10620 06.6 1923 1.2 12543 07.8 6237 3.9 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6 No20 10264 06.4 2068 1.3 12332 07.7 6423 4.0 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6 Dc20 10404 06.5 2197 1.4 12601 07.9 6133 3.8 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6 Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0 Fe21 10486 06.6 1942 1.2 12428 07.8 6199 3.9 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6 Mr21 09905 06.2 1783 1.1 11688 07.3 5859 3.7 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9 Ap21 09220 05.7 1763 1.1 10983 06.8 4968 3.1 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9 My21 08829 05.5 1872 1.2 10701 06.7 5016 3.1 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7 Jn21 09883 06.1 1856 1.1 11739 07.2 4776 2.9 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1 Jl21 09221 05.7 1923 1.2 11144 06.8 4526 2.8 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6 Au21 08556 05.3 1558 1.0 10114 06.3 4309 2.7 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9 Se21 07366 04.6 1732 1.1 09098 05.6 4077 2.5 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1 Oc21 06896 04.3 1638 1.0 08534 05.3 3998 2.5 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7 No21 06302 03.9 1594 1.0 07896 04.9 4121 2.5 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4 De21 05964 03.7 1671 1.0 07635 04.7 3994 2.5 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2 Ja22 07207 04.4 1623 1.0 08830 05.4 4094 2.5 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9 Fe22 06782 04.1 1496 0.9 08278 05.1 4278 2.6 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6 Mr22 06168 03.8 1281 0.8 07449 04.5 4211 2.6 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1 Ap22 05458 03.3 1570 1.0 07028 04.3 3777 2.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6 My22 05548 03.4 1417 0.9 06965 04.2 4033 2.5 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7 Jn22 06334 03.8 1541 0.9 07875 04.8 3813 2.3 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0 Jl22 06255 03.8 1614 1.0 07869 04.8 4067 2.5 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2 Au22 06256 03.8 1412 0.9 07668 04.6 3996 2.4 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0 Se22 05460 03.3 1619 1.0 07079 04.3 3479 2.1 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4 Oc22 05609 03.4 1469 0.9 07078 04.3 3301 2.0 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3 No22 05523 03.4 1501 0.9 07024 04.3 3498 2.1 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4 De22 05352 03.3 1266 0.8 06618 04.0 3903 2.4 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4 Ja23 06378 03.9 1434 0.9 07812 04.7 4401 2.7 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4 Fe23 06465 03.9 1420 0.9 07885 04.7 4146 2.5 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3 Mr23 06043 03.6 1190 0.7 07233 04.3 4115 2.5 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8 Ap23 05146 03.1 1461 0.9 06607 04.0 3627 2.2 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1 My23 05700 03.4 1477 0.9 07177 04.3 3518 2.1 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4 Jn23 06351 03.8 1479 0.9 07830 04.7 4337 2.6 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2 Jl23 06372 03.8 1467 0.9 07839 04.7 4082 2.4 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1 Au23 06623 03.9 1500 0.9 08123 04.8 4084 2.4 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2 Se23 06049 03.6 1492 0.9 07541 04.5 3698 2.2 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7 Oc23 06098 03.6 1391 0.8 07489 04.5 3923 2.3 11412 06.8 267642 167774 62.7 06.8 No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 0.9 07474 04.5 4229 2.5 11703 07.0 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Ja24 06778 04.1 1757 1.1 08535 05.1 4803 2.9 13338 08.0 267540 166428 62.2 08.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 Ap24 05894 03.5 1519 0.9 07413 04.4 4200 2.5 11613 06.9 268066 167484 62.5 06.9 My24 06235 03.7 1481 0.9 07716 04.6 4152 2.5 11868 07.1 268248 167576 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 1676 1.0 08200 04.9 4227 2.5 12427 07.4 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 0.9 08017 04.8 4385 2.6 12402 07.4 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 My25 06815 04.0 1500 0.9 08315 04.9 4367 2.6 12682 07.5 273385 170216 62.3 07.4 Jn25 07460 04.4 1862 1.1 09322 05.4 4577 2.7 13899 08.1 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jl25 07847 04.6 1751 1.0 09598 05.6 4729 2.8 14327 08.3 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 Au25 07747 04.5 1791 1.0 09538 05.6 4632 2.7 14170 08.3 274001 171035 62.4 08.2 Se25 07324 04.3 1807 1.1 09131 05.3 4183 2.4 13314 07.8 274226 171217 62.4 07.7 Oc25 No25 07401 04.3 1873 1.1 09274 05.4 5350 3.1 14624 08.5 274633 171467 62.4 08.4 Jul12 13400 08.6% 6837 Jl12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018. By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count. The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year. Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them. But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%. Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees. Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency. Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format. The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed. The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force. The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time. The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time. Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population. The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure. Figures in thousands. Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0 Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1 Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8 Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4 Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3 Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5 Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8 Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1 Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5 Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5 Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0 Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9 Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2 Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2 Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1 Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9 Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4 Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0 Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3 Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2 Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4 Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5 Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0 Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5 Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1 Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9 Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8 Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7 Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0 Jan22 07207 1623 4094 12924 07.9 11301 151524 42.4% 263202 162825 61.9 07.9 Jan23 06378 1434 4401 12213 07.4 10779 154291 42.0% 265962 165070 62.1 07.4 Jan24 06778 1757 4803 13338 08.0 11581 154847 42.1% 267540 166428 62.2 08.0 Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1 Feb17 07887 1723 5700 15310 09.6 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5 Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9 Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1 My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1 Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9 Jul17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9 Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6 Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0 Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6 Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7 Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0 Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9 Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6 Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1 Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4 My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3 Jun18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1 Jul18 06730 1498 4701 12929 07.9 11431 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9 Aug18 06370 1443 4263 12076 07.4 10633 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4 Sep18 05766 1577 4238 11581 07.2 10004 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1 Oct18 05771 1491 4169 11431 07.0 09940 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0 Nov18 05650 1678 4512 11840 07.3 10162 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2 Dec18 06029 1556 4621 12206 07.4 10650 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5 Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8 Feb19 06625 1424 4477 12526 07.7 11102 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7 Mar19 06382 1357 4548 12287 07.5 10930 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5 Apr19 05387 1417 4424 11228 06.9 09811 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9 May19 05503 1395 4070 10968 06.7 09573 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7 Jun19 06292 1571 4529 12391 07.5 10820 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5 Jul19 06556 1478 4017 12051 07.3 10573 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3 Aug19 06203 1564 4237 12004 07.3 10440 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3 Sep19 05465 1299 3925 10689 06.5 09390 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5 Oct19 05510 1229 3961 10700 06.5 09471 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5 Nov19 05441 1246 4053 10740 06.5 09494 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5 Dec19 05503 1246 4170 10919 06.7 09673 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7 Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7 Feb20 06218 1494 4501 12213 07.4 10719 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4 Mar20 07370 1380 5788 14538 08.9 13158 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9 Apr20 22504 2211 10524 35239 22.6 33028 122802 52.7 259896 155830 60.0 22.4 May20 20514 2292 10286 33092 20.9 30800 127175 51.1 260047 157975 60.7 20.7 Jun20 18072 2486 9210 29768 18.5 27282 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3 Jul20 16882 2027 8521 27430 17.0 25403 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8 Aug20 13742 2083 7387 23212 14.4 21129 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3 Sep20 12277 1921 5901 20099 12.6 18178 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4 Oct20 10620 1923 6237 18780 11.7 16857 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6 Nov20 10264 2068 6423 18755 11.7 16687 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6 Dec20 10404 2197 6133 18732 11.7 16537 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6 Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0 Feb21 10486 1942 6199 19743 12.3 16685 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6 Mar21 09905 1783 5859 17547 10.9 15764 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9 Apr21 09220 1763 4968 15951 09.9 14188 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9 May21 08829 1872 5016 15717 09.8 13845 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7 Jun21 09883 1856 4776 16515 10.2 14659 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1 Jul21 09221 1923 4526 15670 09.6 13747 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6 Aug21 08556 1558 4309 14423 08.9 12865 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9 Sep21 07366 1732 4077 13175 08.2 11443 149949 42.7% 261766 161392 61.7 08.1 Oct21 06896 1638 3998 12532 07.7 10894 150498 42.5% 262908 161863 61.8 07.7 Nov21 06302 1594 4121 12017 07.4 10423 151676 42.1% 262029 162099 61.9 07.4 Dec21 05964 1671 3994 11629 07.2 09958 151738 42.1% 262136 161696 61.7 07.2 Jan22 07207 1623 4094 12924 07.9 11301 151524 42.4% 263202 162825 61.9 07.9 Feb22 06782 1496 4278 12556 07.7 11060 152665 42.0% 263324 163725 62.2 07.6 Mar22 06168 1281 4211 11660 07.1 10379 153895 41.6% 263444 164274 62.4 07.1 Apr22 05458 1570 3777 10805 06.6 09489 153960 41.6% 263559 163449 62.0 06.6 May22 05548 1417 4033 10998 06.7 09581 153868 41.6% 263679 164157 62.3 06.7 Jun22 06334 1541 3813 11688 07.1 10147 154865 41.3% 263835 165012 60.1 07.0 Jul22 06255 1614 4067 11936 07.2 10322 154999 41.3% 264012 165321 60.2 07.2 Aug22 06256 1412 3996 11664 07.1 10252 154721 41.4% 264184 164973 62.4 07.0 Sep22 05460 1619 3479 10558 06.4 08939 155524 41.2% 264356 164463 62.2 06.4 Oct22 05609 1469 3301 10379 06.3 08910 155843 41.1% 264535 164753 62.3 06.3 Nov22 05523 1501 3498 10522 06.4 09021 155251 41.4% 264708 164272 62.1 06.4 Dec22 05352 1266 3903 10521 06.4 09255 154969 41.5% 264844 164224 62.0 06.4 Jan23 06378 1434 4401 12213 07.4 10779 154291 42.0% 265962 165070 62.1 07.4 Feb23 06465 1420 4146 12031 07.2 10611 155567 41.5% 266112 166178 62.4 07.3 Mar23 06043 1190 4115 11348 06.8 10158 156625 41.2% 266272 166783 62.6 06.8 Apr23 05146 1461 3627 10234 06.2 08773 157448 40.9% 266443 166221 62.4 06.1 May23 05700 1477 3518 10695 06.4 09218 157484 40.9% 266618 166702 62.5 06.4 Jun23 06351 1479 4337 12167 07.2 10688 157222 41.1% 266801 167910 62.9 07.2 Jul23 06372 1467 4082 11921 07.1 10454 157900 40.9% 267002 168354 63.1 07.1 Aug23 06623 1500 4084 12207 07.3 10707 157342 41.1% 267213 168049 62.9 07.2 Sep23 06049 1492 3698 11239 06.7 09747 157971 40.9% 267428 167718 62.7 06.7 Oct23 06098 1391 3923 11412 06.8 10021 157753 41.1% 267642 167774 62.7 06.8 Nov23 05827 1625 3796 11248 06.7 09623 158354 40.9% 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 Dec23 05907 1567 4229 11703 07.0 10136 156525 41.6% 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Jan24 06778 1757 4803 13338 08.0 11581 154847 42.1% 267540 166428 62.2 08.0 Feb24 06970 1559 4479 13008 07.8 11449 155836 41.8% 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mar24 06604 1439 4343 12386 07.4 10947 157013 41.4% 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 Apr24 05894 1519 4200 11613 06.9 10094 157390 41.3% 268066 167484 62.5 06.9 May24 06235 1481 4152 11868 07.1 10387 157189 41.4% 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jun24 07233 1548 4350 13131 07.8 11583 157424 41.4% 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jul24 07685 1628 4661 13974 08.2 12346 157377 41.4% 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Aug24 07415 1359 4677 13451 08.0 12092 156671 41.7% 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Sep24 06524 1676 4227 12427 07.4 10751 157818 41.3% 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oct24 06631 1547 4122 12300 07.3 10753 157816 41.4% 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 Nov24 06708 1615 4252 12575 07.5 10960 157204 41.7% 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 Dec24 06452 1565 4385 12402 07.4 10837 156909 41.8% 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Jan25 07467 1703 4854 14024 08.3 12321 157493 42.2% 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Feb25 07572 1733 5086 14391 08.5 12658 157458 42.3% 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mar25 07242 1539 4813 13593 08.0 12055 158598 41.9% 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Apr25 06580 1570 4431 12581 07.2 11011 159611 41.6% 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 May25 06815 1500 4367 12682 07.5 11182 159034 41.8% 273385 170216 62.3 07.4 Jun25 07460 1862 4577 13899 08.1 12037 159306 41.8% 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jul25 07847 1751 4729 14327 08.3 12576 159070 41.9% 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 Aug25 07747 1791 4632 14170 08.3 12379 158656 42.1% 274001 171035 62.4 08.2 Sep25 07324 1807 4183 13314 07.8 11507 159810 41.7% 274226 171217 62.4 07.7 Oct25 Nov25 07401 1873 5350 14624 08.5 12751 158716 42.2% 274633 171467 62.4 08.4 Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Jul12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3 Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018. The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them. But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%. Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees. Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough. In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented. So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together. Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database. However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about. There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures. The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real. The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate. The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force. The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure. The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats. Figures in thousands. MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4 Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3% Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5% Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7% Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6% Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7% Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0% Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2% Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4% Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5% Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0% Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1% Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8% Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8% Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9% Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1% Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6% Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0% Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2% Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3% Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6% Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10% Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5% Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5% Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1% Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3% Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7% Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1% My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1% Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4% J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4% Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8% Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2% Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2% Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2% Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9% Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0% Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4% Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3% My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4% Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7% J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7% Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9% Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5% Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4% Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1% Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3% Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7% Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0% Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9% My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8% Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9% J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2% Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7% Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5% Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7% De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6% Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7% Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2% Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8% Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6% My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3% Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7% J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8% Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5% Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0% Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4% No21 06302 03.9 12017 07.4 262029 162099 61.9 07.4% 24.8% 17.4% De21 05964 03.7 11629 07.2 262136 161696 61.7 07.2% 24.5% 17.3% Ja22 07207 04.4 12924 07.9 263202 162825 61.9 07.9% 24.5% 16.6% Fe22 06782 04.1 12556 07.7 263324 163725 62.2 07.6% 24.6% 17.0% Mr22 06168 03.8 11660 07.1 263444 164274 62.4 07.1% 24.4% 17.3% Ap22 05458 03.3 10805 06.6 263559 163449 62.0 06.6% 24.5% 17.9% My22 05548 03.4 10998 06.7 263679 164157 62.3 06.7% 24.6% 17.9% Jn22 06334 03.8 11688 07.1 263835 165012 60.1 07.0% 24.3% 17.3% J l22 06255 03.8 11936 07.2 264012 165321 60.2 07.2% 24.4% 17.2% Au22 06256 03.8 11664 07.1 264184 164973 62.4 07.0% 24.6% 17.6% Se22 05460 03.3 10558 06.4 264356 164463 62.2 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Oc22 05609 03.4 10379 06.3 264535 164753 62.3 06.3% 24.5% 18.2% No22 05523 03.4 10522 06.4 264708 164272 62.1 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% De22 05352 03.3 10521 06.4 264844 164224 62.0 06.4% 24.4% 18.0% Ja23 06378 03.9 12213 07.4 265962 165070 62.1 07.4% 24.5% 17.1% Fe23 06465 03.9 12031 07.2 266112 166178 62.4 07.3% 24.6% 17.3% Mr23 06043 03.6 11348 06.8 266272 166783 62.6 06.8% 24.6% 17.8% Ap23 05146 03.1 10234 06.2 266443 166221 62.4 06.1% 24.6% 18.5% My23 05700 03.4 10695 06.4 266618 166702 62.5 06.4% 24.7% 18.3% Jn23 06351 03.8 12167 07.2 266801 167910 62.9 07.2% 24.9% 17.7% J l23 06372 03.8 11921 07.1 267002 168354 63.1 07.1% 24.9% 17.8% Au23 06623 03.9 12207 07.3 267213 168049 62.9 07.2% Se23 06049 03.6 11239 06.7 267428 167718 62.7 06.7% Oc23 06098 03.6 11412 267642 167774 62.7 06.8% No23 05827 03.5 1625 1.0 07452 04.4 3796 2.3 11248 06.7 267822 167977 62.7 06.7 De23 05907 03.5 1567 7474 4229 11703 267991 166661 62.2 07.0 Fe24 06970 04.2 1559 0.9 08529 05.1 4479 2.7 13008 07.8 267711 167285 62.5 07.8 Mr24 06604 03.9 1439 0.9 08043 04.8 4343 2.6 12386 07.4 267884 167960 62.7 07.4 May24 06235 03.7% 6259 12496 4152 16648 268248 167536 62.5 07.1 Jn24 07233 04.3 1548 0.9 08781 05.2 4350 2.6 13131 07.8 268438 169007 63.0 07.7 Jl24 07685 04.5 1628 1.0 09313 05.5 4661 2.7 13974 08.2 268644 169723 63.2 08.2 Au24 07415 04.4 1359 0.8 08774 05.2 4677 2.8 13451 08.0 268856 168763 62.8 08.0 Se24 06524 03.9 *756 0.4 *7280 *4.3 4227 2.5 11507 06.8 269080 168569 62.6 07.3 Oc24 06631 03.9 1547 0.9 08178 04.9 4122 2.4 12300 07.3 269289 168569 62.6 07.3 No24 06708 04.0 1615 1.0 08323 04.9 4252 2.5 12575 07.5 269463 168164 62.4 07.4 De24 06452 03.8 1565 08017 4385 12402 269638 167746 62.2 07.4 Ja25 07467 04.4 1703 1.0 09170 05.4 4854 2.9 14024 08.3 272685 169814 62.3 08.2 Fe25 07572 04.5 1733 1.0 09305 05.5 5086 3.0 14391 08.5 272847 170116 62.3 08.4 Mr25 07242 04.2 1539 0.9 08780 05.1 4813 2.8 13593 08.0 273023 170653 62.5 07.9 Ap25 06580 03.9 1570 0.9 08150 04.8 4431 2.6 12581 07.2 273197 170622 62.5 07.3 Jn25 07460 04.4% 1862 09322 4577 13899 273585 171343 62.6 08.1 Jl25 07847 04.6 1751 09598 4729 14327 273785 171646 62.7 08.3 Au25 07747 04.5 1791 09538 4632 14170 274001 171035 62.4 08.2 Se25 07324 04.3 1807 1.1 09131 05.3 4183 2.4 13314 07.8 274226 171217 62.4 07.7 Oc25 No25 07401 04.3 1873 09274 5350 14624 274633 171467 62.4 08.4 J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3 Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7 Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6 Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8 Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5 General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote:Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935. The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression. The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017. A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession. It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work. The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994. The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: This Table of Data, which breaks down the numerical changes in the key figures. I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-6 I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency. Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format. The 1st column is Labor Force minus both Unemployed and Involuntary Part-Time. This is also Employed minus Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time. Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 2nd column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population. The 3rd column is the Civilian Population. 4th column is Labor Force, 5th column is Participation Rate. After the separation bar, the 7th column is the Increase in Civilian Population from the previous entry. For the entries by year, this is the 12 month Increase. For the entries broken down by month, this is the 1 month Increase. The 8th column is the Increase in Labor Force from the previous entry. The 9th column is the Increase in Actually Fully Employed count, from the previous entry. In the monthly breakdown for 2018, after the second separation bar, the 10th column is the Civilian Population Increase from the entry 12 months prior. The 11th column is the Labor Force Increase from the entry 12 months prior. The 12th column is the Actually Fully Employed Increase from the entry 12 months prior. The 13th column is the amount that the 12th column exceeds the 10th column, or the amount of Unemployed that is being chipped away, despite manipulation of other figures. Figures in thousands. Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc Jan94 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0% | Jan95 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1% | 1800 1305 02985/+1185 Jan96 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8% | 1881 0698 01100/-0781 Jan97 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4% | 2651 2921 03023/+0372 Jan98 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6% | 1953 1634 02752/+0799 Jan99 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7% | 2481 1992 02896/+0415 Jan00 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9% | 2063 1678 02256/+0193 Jan01 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9% | 2107 1428 00893/-1214 Jan02 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2% | 2200 0025 -2953/-5153 Jan02 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2% | 5617 2179 -1119/-6736 Jan03 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1% | 3391 2073 01179/-2212 Jan04 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7% | 2264 0767 00869/-1395 Jan05 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4% | 2676 1057 02116/-0560 Jan06 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5% | 2716 1965 03090/+0374 Jan07 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9% | 3097 2834 02677/-0420 Jan08 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7% | 1966 0904 -0283/-2249 Jan09 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4% | 2123 0617 -7611/-9734 Jan10 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6% | 2093 -488 -4112/-6205 Jan11 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9% | 1872 -421 00923/-0949 Jan12 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4% | 3565 0949 02625/-0940 Jan13 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3% | 2394 1309 01910/-0484 Jan14 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5% | 2252 -413 02802/+0550 Jan15 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5% | 2808 1669 03518/+0710 Jan16 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3% | 2664 1297 03377/+0713 Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% | 1685 1329 01596/-0089 Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 2698 1361 03068/+0370 Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% | 1459 2067 01953/+0494 Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% | 1263 1393 02967/+1704 Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% | 1349 -4263 -12235/-13584 Jan22 151524 42.4% 263202 162825 61.9% | 2351 3591 09425/+7074 Ja23* 154291 42.0% 265962 165070 62.1% | 2760 2245 02767/+0007 Jan24 154847 42.1% 267540 166428 62.2% | 1578 1358 00556/-1022 Jan25 157493 42.2% 272685 169814 62.3% | 5145 3386 02646/-2499 Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% | Feb17 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7% | 164 00806 01495 Mar17 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9% | 168 00430 01230 Apr17 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8% | 174 -0095 00147 My 17 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8% | 179 00162 00141 Jun17 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3% | 190 01358 00119 Jul17 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5% | 194 00574 00508 Aug17 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0% | 206 -1048 -0594 Sep17 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0% | 205 00186 01307 Oct17 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7% | 204 -0584 -0026 Nov17 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7% | 183 00001 -0101 Dec17 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4% | 160 -0586 -1016 Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 671 00157 -1142 | 2698 1361 3068 +370 Feb18 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9% | 154 01457 01694 | 2688 2012 3267 +579 Mar18 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8% | 163 00054 00740 | 2681 1636 2777 +096 Apr18 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7% | 175 -0268 00815 | 2684 1463 2445 -239 My 18 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8% | 182 00485 00714 | 2687 1786 3028 +341 Jun18 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4% | 188 01512 00060 | 2685 1940 2959 +274 Jul18 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5% | 201 00457 00812 | 2692 1823 3262 +570 Aug18 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7% | 223 -1825 -1027 | 2709 1046 2830 +121 Sep18 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7% | 224 00049 00678 | 2341 0909 2201 -140 Oct18 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9% | 224 00765 00829 | 2748 2218 3056 +308 Nov18 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9% | 194 -0058 -0280 | 2759 2199 2877 +118 Dec18 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8% | 180 -0155 -0643 | 2779 2630 3250 +471 Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% |-649 -0406 -2439 | 1459 2067 1953 +494 Feb19 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0% | 153 00689 02270 | 1458 1299 2529 1071 Mar19 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0% | 145 00030 00202 | 1440 1275 1991 +551 Apr19 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7% | 156 -0726 00393 | 1421 0817 1569 +148 May19 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8% | 168 00558 00796 | 1407 0890 1651 +244 Jun19 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4% | 176 01465 00218 | 1395 0843 1809 +414 Jul19 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6% | 188 00821 01068 | 1382 1207 2065 +683 Aug19 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2% | 207 -0922 -0789 | 1366 2110 2303 +937 Sep19 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1% | 216 -0076 00974 | 1348 1985 2599 1251 Oct19 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3% | 207 00633 00919 | 1331 1853 2689 1358 Nov19 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2% | 175 -0190 -0580 | 1312 1721 2389 1077 Dec19 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0% | 161 -0379 -0558 | 1293 1493 2474 1181 Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% |-679 -0510 -1946 | 1263 1393 2967 1704 Feb20 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3% | 126 00738 01128 | 1236 1442 1845 +609 Mar20 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6% | 130 -1698 -4127 | 1221 -286 -2504 Apr20 122802 52.7% 259896 155830 60.0% | 138 -6707 -26587 | 1203 -6267 -29484 May20 127175 51.1% 260047 157975 60.7% | 151 02145 04373 | 1186 -4680 -25907 Jun20 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8% | 157 02908 06426 | 1167 -4058 -19699 Jul20 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0% | 169 00491 02370 | 1148 -3567 -18397 Aug20 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8% | 185 -0408 03834 | 1126 -3053 -13742 Sep20 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4% | 184 -0893 02058 | 1104 -3870 -12658 Oct20 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7% | 183 00980 02301 | 1080 -3523 -11276 Nov20 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5% | 160 -0585 -0415 | 1065 -3918 -11111 Dec20 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3% | 145 -0451 -0301 | 1049 -3990 -10854 Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% |-379 -0783 -1381 | 1349 -4263 -10289 Feb21 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3% | 067 00774 01224 | 1290 -4227 -10193 Mar21 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5% | 085 00389 01310 | 1245 -2140 -4756(-7260) Apr21 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4% | 100 -0018 01558 | 1207 4549 23389(-6095) May21 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5% | 107 00228 00571 | 1163 2632 19587(-6320) Jun21 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1% | 128 01560 00746 | 1134 1284 13907(-5792) Jul21 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3% | 131 00650 01562 | 1096 1443 13099(-5298) Aug21 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8% | 142 -1029 -0147 | 1053 0822 9086(-4656) Sep21 149949 42.7% 261766 161392 61.7% | 155 -0396 01026 | 1024 1319 8054(-4604) Oct21 150498 42.5% 261908 161863 61.8% | 142 00471 00549 | 0984 0810 6302(-4974) Nov21 151676 42.1% 262029 162099 61.9% | 121 00236 01178 | 0944 1561 7895(-3216) Dec21 151738 42.1% 262136 161696 61.7% | 107 -0403 00062 | 0906 1679 8258(-2596) Jan22 151524 42.4% 263202 162825 61.9% | 1066 1129 -0214 | 2351 3591 9425 (-864) Feb22 152665 42.0% 263324 163725 62.2% | 122 00900 01141 | 2406 3717 9342 (-851) Mar22 153895 41.6% 263444 164274 62.4% | 120 00549 01230 | 2441 3877 9262 (2002) Apr22 153960 41.6% 263559 163449 62.0% | 115 -0825 00065 | 2456 3070 7769 (1674) May22 153868 41.6% 263679 163157 62.3% | 120 -0292 -0092 | 2469 2550 7106 ( 786) Jun22 154865 41.3% 263835 165012 60.1% | 156 01855 00997 | 2497 2845 7357 (1565) Jul22 154999 41.3% 264012 165321 60.2% | 177 00309 00134 | 2543 2504 5929 ( 631) Aug22 154721 41.4% 264184 164973 62.4% | 172 -0348 -0278 | 2573 3185 5798 (1142) Sep22 155524 41.2% 264356 164463 62.2% | 172 -0510 00803 | 2590 3071 5575 ( 971) Oct22 155843 41.1% 264535 164753 62.3% | 179 00290 00319 | 2627 2890 5345 ( 371) Nov22 155251 41.4% 264708 164272 62.1% | 173 -0481 -0592 | 2506 2173 3575 ( 359) Dec22 154969 41.5% 264844 164224 62.0% | 136 -0048 -0282 | 2708 2528 3231 ( 635) Jan23 154291 42.0% 265962 165070 62.1% | 1118 0846 -0678 | 2760 2245 2767 (1903) Feb23 155567 41.5% 266112 166178 62.4% | 150 01108 01276 | 2788 2453 2902 (2051) Mar23 156625 41.2% 266272 166783 62.6% | 160 00605 01058 | 2828 2509 2730 -098 Apr23 157448 40.9% 266443 166221 62.4% | 171 -0562 00823 | 2884 2772 3488 +604 May23 157484 40.9% 266618 166702 62.5% | 175 00481 00036 | 2939 3545 3616 +677 Jun23 157222 41.1% 266801 167910 62.9% | 183 01208 -0262 | 2966 2898 2357 -609 Jul23 157900 40.9% 267002 168354 63.1% | 201 00444 00678 | 2990 3033 2901 -089 Aug23 157342 41.1% 267213 168049 62.9% | 211 -0305 -0558 | 3029 3076 2621 -408 Sep23 157971 40.9% 267428 167718 62.7% | 215 -0331 00629 | 3072 3255 2447 -625 Oct23 157753 41.1% 267642 167774 62.7% | 214 00056 -0218 | 3107 3021 1910 -1197 Nov23 158354 40.9% 267822 167977 62.7% | 180 00203 00601 | 2978 3705 3103 +125 Dec23 156525 41.6% 267991 166661 62.2% | 169 -1316 -1829 | 3147 2437 1556 -1591 Jan24 154847 42.1% 267540 166428 62.2% |-451 -0233 -1678 | 1578 1358 0556 -1022 Feb24 155836 41.8% 267711 167285 62.5% | 171 00857 00989 | 1599 1107 0269 -1330 Mar24 157013 41.4% 267884 167960 62.7% | 173 00675 01177 | 1612 1177 0388 -1224 Apr24 157390 41.3% 268066 167484 62.5% | 182 -0476 00377 | 1623 1263 -058 -1681 May24 157189 41.4% 268248 167536 62.5% | 182 00052 -0201 | 1630 0834 -295 -1925 Jun24 157424 41.4% 268438 169007 63.0% | 190 01471 00235 | 1637 1097 0202 -1435 Jul24 157377 41.4% 268644 169723 63.2% | 206 00716 -0047 | 1642 1369 -523 -2165 Aug24 156671 41.7% 268856 168763 62.8% | 212 -0960 -0706 | 1643 0714 -671 -2314 Sep24 157818 41.3% 269080 168569 62.6% | 224 -0194 01147 | 1652 0851 -153 -1805 Oct24 157816 41.4% 269289 168569 62.6% | 209 ---0- -0002 | 1647 0795 0063 -1584 Nov24 157204 41.7% 269463 168164 62.4% | 174 -0405 -0612 | 1641 187 -1150 -2791 Dec24 156909 41.8% 269638 167746 62.2% | 175 -0418 -0295 | 1647 1085 -616 -2263 Jan25 157493 42.2% 272685 169814 62.3% | 3047 2068 00584 | 5145 3386 2646 -2499 Feb25 157458 42.3% 272847 170116 62.3% | 162 00302 -0035 | 5136 2831 1622 -3514 Mar25 158598 41.9% 273023 170653 62.5% | 176 00537 01140 | 5139 2693 1585 -3554 Apr25 159611 41.6% 273197 170622 62.5% | 174 -0031 01013 | 5131 3138 2221 -2910 May25 159034 41.8% 273385 170216 62.3% | 188 -0406 -0577 | 5137 2680 1845 -3292 Jun25 159306 41.8% 273585 171343 62.6% | 200 01127 00272 | 5147 2336 2082 -3065 Jul25 159070 41.9% 273785 171646 62.7% | 200 00303 -0236 | 5141 1923 1693 -3448 Aug25 158656 42.1% 274001 171035 62.4% | 216 -0611 -0414 | 5145 2272 1985 -3160 Sep25 159810 41.7% 274226 171217 62.4% | 225 00182 01154 | 5146 2648 1992 -3154 Oct25 Nov25 158716 42.2% 274633 171467 62.4% | 407 00250 -1094 | 5170 3303 1512 -3658 Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc | CPIn LFIn AEInc Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | \SincLastMonth/ | \SinceLastYear/ Jul12 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3 | Aug12 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 | 212 -1271 -0072 Sep12 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 | 206 -0180 00494 Oct12 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 | 211 00704 00940 Nov12 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 | 191 -1174 -0619 Display stabilization row: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX General color-coding guidelines: This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table. This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession. This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count. Quote: The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. Except possibly 2010, 2011, 2016. The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.
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