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Sunday, June 22, 2025 9:05 AM
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote: If there are men in this country big enough to own the government of the United States, they are going to own it; what we have to determine now is whether we are big enough, whether we are men enough, whether we are free enough, to take possession again of the government which is our own.
Tuesday, June 24, 2025 11:01 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
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Quote:Originally posted by second: The American polity is cracked, and might collapse. Canada must prepare The U.S. is becoming increasingly ungovernable, and some experts believe it could descend into civil war. What should Canada do then? By Thomas Homer-Dixon Published December 31, 2021 Updated January 2, 2022 This article was published more than 3 years ago. Some information may no longer be current.
Sunday, July 20, 2025 10:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: We're a lot more governable than we were 3 years ago. We're kicking out millions who don't belong here and people are going to prison for breaking the law again. And the world gets to see how you Leftoids burning everything down are insane. AND the NGO money that was funding all of these inorganic protests is basically gone, so that won't be happening much if at all anymore either. This article came from long ago, years before the end of the shithole world from 6 months ago that you're still stuck in.
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Monday, July 28, 2025 7:01 AM
Quote:An all-white jury took just over an hour to find Bryant and Milam not guilty. A member of the jury said, “We wouldn’t have taken so long if we hadn’t stopped to drink pop.” Immune from further prosecution, Bryant and Milam told their story to Look magazine for $4,000. They said they had kidnapped and beaten Till to frighten him, but when he refused to beg for mercy, they drove him to the river. Milam asked, “You still as good as I am?” and when Till answered, “Yeah,” they shot him, tied a 75-pound cotton gin fan around his neck with barbed wire, and threw him in. “What else could we do?” Milam said. “He was hopeless. I’m no bully. I never hurt a n*gger in my life. I like n*ggers, in their place. I know how to work ’em. But I just decided it was time a few people got put on notice. As long as I live and can do anything about it, n*ggers are gonna stay in their place.”
Wednesday, August 6, 2025 10:49 AM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:39 PM THGRRI I am an independent myself, but I figured too many would make the same claim that are actually far right nuts. To tell the truth they are the ones I expected to post here first. Glad it's you guys.
Monday, August 11, 2025 4:51 AM
Monday, August 11, 2025 11:49 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: . . . Interestingly, physicists and mathematicians have also taken on the subject of wealth inequality. They have developed mathematical models of wealth distribution now known as the “yard sale model.” Proponents of this model claim that under very simple assumptions, “wealth condensation” (transition from more even wealth distribution to wealth concentration in the hands of a few) is inevitable unless remedial action is taken. They claim that this model remarkably matches the actual state of wealth inequality in the world. What is intriguing is that under the model, by an unbiased random process, a small group or even a single individual will randomly end up holding all the wealth. It’s not a matter of the survival of the fittest or the best getting more than the rest—it’s a matter of the luckiest. Who is lucky is random. The fact that there will be a winner taking it all is not random, it’s almost inevitable.
Monday, August 11, 2025 3:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:39 PM THGRRI I am an independent myself, but I figured too many would make the same claim that are actually far right nuts. To tell the truth they are the ones I expected to post here first. Glad it's you guys.
Monday, August 11, 2025 3:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: . . . Interestingly, physicists and mathematicians have also taken on the subject of wealth inequality. They have developed mathematical models of wealth distribution now known as the “yard sale model.” Proponents of this model claim that under very simple assumptions, “wealth condensation” (transition from more even wealth distribution to wealth concentration in the hands of a few) is inevitable unless remedial action is taken. They claim that this model remarkably matches the actual state of wealth inequality in the world. What is intriguing is that under the model, by an unbiased random process, a small group or even a single individual will randomly end up holding all the wealth. It’s not a matter of the survival of the fittest or the best getting more than the rest—it’s a matter of the luckiest. Who is lucky is random. The fact that there will be a winner taking it all is not random, it’s almost inevitable. So... wealthy people ... such as yourself ... don't get wealthy bc of anything they did, specifically. Has nothing to do with self restraint, intelligence, or upright moral character. Conversely, poor people aren't poor bc of anything they did or didn't do. There is one thing inevitably associated with wealth: Rich people think they're better than everybody else. They totally underestimate how much luck played a part in their wealth. It's the same with singers or actors who become viral sensations v equally talented singer it actors. The stars really think they're hot shit, don't they?
Monday, August 11, 2025 6:05 PM
Monday, August 11, 2025 6:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: . . . Interestingly, physicists and mathematicians have also taken on the subject of wealth inequality. They have developed mathematical models of wealth distribution now known as the “yard sale model.” Proponents of this model claim that under very simple assumptions, “wealth condensation” (transition from more even wealth distribution to wealth concentration in the hands of a few) is inevitable unless remedial action is taken. They claim that this model remarkably matches the actual state of wealth inequality in the world. What is intriguing is that under the model, by an unbiased random process, a small group or even a single individual will randomly end up holding all the wealth. It’s not a matter of the survival of the fittest or the best getting more than the rest—it’s a matter of the luckiest. Who is lucky is random. The fact that there will be a winner taking it all is not random, it’s almost inevitable. So... wealthy people ... such as yourself ... don't get wealthy bc of anything they did, specifically. Has nothing to do with self restraint, intelligence, or upright moral character. Conversely, poor people aren't poor bc of anything they did or didn't do. There is one thing inevitably associated with wealth: Rich people think they're better than everybody else. They totally underestimate how much luck played a part in their wealth. It's the same with singers or actors who become viral sensations v equally talented singer it actors. The stars really think they're hot shit, don't they?My goodness, Signym. Are you feeling bitter about your misfortunes? Scientific American came to different conclusions than you about who deserves what: Luck plays a much more important role than it is usually accorded, so that the virtue commonly attributed to wealth in modern society—and, likewise, the stigma attributed to poverty—is completely unjustified. Moreover, only a carefully designed mechanism for redistribution can compensate for the natural tendency of wealth to flow from the poor to the rich in a market economy. Redistribution is often confused with taxes, but the two concepts ought to be kept quite separate. Taxes flow from people to their governments to finance those governments' activities. Redistribution, in contrast, may be implemented by governments, but it is best thought of as a flow of wealth from people to people to compensate for the unfairness inherent in market economics. In a flat redistribution scheme, all those possessing wealth below the mean would receive net funds, whereas those above the mean would pay. And precisely because current levels of inequality are so extreme, far more people would receive than would pay. Given how complicated real economies are, we find it gratifying that a simple analytical approach developed by physicists and mathematicians describes the actual wealth distributions of multiple nations with unprecedented precision and accuracy. Also rather curious is that these distributions display subtle but key features of complex physical systems. Most important, however, the fact that a sketch of the free market as simple and plausible as the affine wealth model gives rise to economies that are anything but free and fair should be both a cause for alarm and a call for action. More at Is Inequality Inevitable? Wealth naturally trickles up in free-market economies, model suggests By Bruce M. Boghosian | November 1, 2019 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-inequality-inevitable/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 1:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: One of your big flaws is your reading comprehension. It sucks, big time. All I did was reiterate your post about the source of wealth inequality (Luck, not merit. I even highlighted that part for you) THAT PART HAS BEEN PUBLISHED FOR YEARS. I combined it with other studies which say that successful people ... the wealthy or famous ... credit their success to themselves and overlook luck's presumably greater contribution. You constantly self-aggrandize, crediting yourself instead of good luck. And you constantly blame “Trumptards" for their lowly status, also not crediting BAD luck. You're the only one I know, except THUGR, who can so totally misread their own posts, and then so totally misread someone else's. What's wrong with you, old man? Got dementia? Or just a psychotic liar? ***** Also, I don't totally believe the study. And I don't believe in your "solution", which is direct wealth redistibution as the answer. Unless people are BORN with a disability or a predistibution to genetic diseases... something that is entirely a roll of the dice and out of their control ... work and self restraint DO play a roll in how well people do. And if you want to make society fair, make it fair by rewarding the behavior that you want to see, not by throwing money at people for nothing. That will probably involve limiting the potential rewards of things like speculation (luck) and excessive profit, breaking up monopolies etc.. And I'm sure you'll find a way to misstate this post too.
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