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Elections; 2024

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Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:35 PM

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Given the lengthy delays in former President Donald J. Trump’s criminal trial for federal election subversion, it’s time for the Department of Justice to face facts: Special counsel Jack Smith will likely have only one chance before the November election to tell the public the story of Jan. 6, 2021, and Trump’s role in it. That opportunity will occur not in front of a jury of ordinary citizens, but before the nine justices of the Supreme Court on April 25, when they consider whether Trump is absolutely immune from prosecution for his efforts to remain in the office American voters had decided he must surrender.

Smith is in possession of the fullest story of the events culminating in Jan. 6: a rich and vivid catalog of witness testimony, documents, texts, and emails that even the House committee that investigated the insurrection has never seen or heard. He is ready to display that material before a federal jury in a public trial. But through a series of procedural filings, Trump has managed to move the locus of the case from a trial judge’s courtroom in the District of Columbia to the Supreme Court of the United States.

The court now stands as the sole arbiter of the calendar in the case of United States v. Trump. That’s not because a majority of the justices are likely to rule that Trump is immune from prosecution—that outcome is too far-fetched for even the most cynical observers. It’s because the court, with its gradual process of briefing, argument, deliberation and ruling, even on an expedited basis, completely controls whether a trial and verdict can happen before the inauguration of whoever stands on the Capitol steps in January 2025.

Smith, of course, has a duty to prevail in the Supreme Court on his plainly correct legal argument that Trump is not immune. But as a special prosecutor in one of the most consequential criminal matters in American history, Smith also has a duty to inform the public—especially if the immunity appeal becomes his sole chance to do so in a court of law before voters cast their ballots in November.

Disclosing evidence that Smith is prepared to present will not prejudice the case. Trump is entitled, as a matter of law, to have access to witness statements and other evidence prior to trial anyway. Indeed, if Trump’s social media activity in his other court proceedings is any indication, he will relish the opportunity to spin potential testimony and influence potential witnesses. But such a risk to the prosecution is substantially outweighed by the public’s need to know what happened in the waning days of the Trump administration.

Given this duty, and the degree of media attention that will be concentrated on this Supreme Court, it is important that Smith take the opportunity to inform the public about the facts the government is prepared to prove at trial.

This means that Smith should resist the rarefied practice of SCOTUS advocacy and high constitutional theory. He must not allow the justices to draw him into epicycles of arcane hypotheticals: What if a president did this? What if a president did that?

This case is not about a hypothetical president or speculative misconduct. This is a case about President Donald J. Trump. It is a case about his attempt to retain power, about his schemes to thwart the will of the people. It is about Trump’s effort to undermine the basic American principle—honored for more than two centuries—that the loser of a free and fair election must peacefully transfer power to the winner. Briefs have been filed before the high court, and on April 25 the people will be listening. At every opportunity—in its opening remarks, in its answer to questions, in its entire presentation of the case before the justices—Smith’s team must tell the court and the public the most specific and vivid story it can about what Trump did.

Donald J. Trump wants to make every public event about him. By all means: Let the Supreme Court case United States v. Trump be about him, his knowledge, and his actions leading to the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. And let the public watch it, hear it, and make their own decision in November about whether this is someone who should be returned to the Oval Office.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/trump-jack-smith-supreme-c
ourt-argument.html

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Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Aw look. The two cult members have finally put their differences aside for the greater good.



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Wednesday, April 10, 2024 7:42 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Aw look. The two cult members have finally put their differences aside for the greater good.
As Easy As 1 – 2 – 3

1) Donald Trump is wrong on Democrats' abortion stance. They don't support the 'execution' of babies.

Claim: Democrats support abortion measures that result in the "execution" of babies "after birth."

Fact check by PolitiFact: False

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/apr/08/donald-trump/donald-
trump-explains-his-abortion-policy-with-fal/

2) Trump's False Claim About Roe

Claim: "All legal scholars, both sides, wanted and in fact demanded" that Roe v. Wade "be ended."

Fact check by FactCheck.org: False

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/04/trumps-false-claim-about-roe/

3) Trump Took Credit for Overturning Roe v. Wade?

Claim: On multiple occasions, including at a Fox News town hall, former U.S. President Donald Trump claimed credit for overturning Roe v. Wade, saying, "For 54 years they were trying to get Roe v. Wade terminated, and I did it. And I'm proud to have done it."

Fact check by Snopes.com: Correct Attribution

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-overturning-roe-v-wade/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, April 10, 2024 11:27 AM

THG


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Biden is still climbing in the polls. Real Clear Politics has Trumps lead down to 0.3, when in February Trump led by 4.3. Since February, Trump dropped and Biden gained 4 points.

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Oops, 0.2; I think Biden is in for a larger gain within the next few days. Also, this represents an average of the polls taken by different pollsters. Like Rasmussen that has Trump up by 8 or FOX news that has Trump up by 5. And even Grinnell/Selzer that has Trump up by 7. These numbers artificially boost Trumps average because they are no way close to being correct.

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Wednesday, April 10, 2024 2:44 PM

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T

Our first priority must be defeating Donald Trump.






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Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:36 PM

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H.L. Mencken, that nasty old cynic, famously wrote that “for every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, clear, and wrong.” Simple and clear. That’s what most people want — which is why every marketer knows that simple and clear sells, whether you’re selling toothpaste or public policies or politicians. Simple and clear may not work, mind you. It may deliver disaster. But it definitely sells. Donald Trump has repeatedly said the war in Ukraine is so simple and clear he could settle it “in a day” and a large portion of the American population does not take that statement to be the grotesque hubris of a delusional narcissistic conman. They hear confidence and they find it reassuring. Because they are not fascinated by complexity. They are frightened by it. And they want someone to sweep it away — which Trump does at every rally.
- Dan Gardner
Apr 06, 2024
https://dgardner.substack.com/p/on-kahneman-and-complexity

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Wednesday, April 10, 2024 8:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Biden is still climbing in the polls. Real Clear Politics has Trumps lead down to 0.3, when in February Trump led by 4.3. Since February, Trump dropped and Biden gained 4 points.

tick tock

T



Oops, 0.2; I think Biden is in for a larger gain within the next few days. Also, this represents an average of the polls taken by different pollsters. Like Rasmussen that has Trump up by 8 or FOX news that has Trump up by 5. And even Grinnell/Selzer that has Trump up by 7. These numbers artificially boost Trumps average because they are no way close to being correct.

T


On this day in 2020, Joe Biden* was leading Trump by 6.3 points and in 2016 Hilary Clinton was leading Trump by 10.6 points in the same aggregate.

Hillary lost that one, and Joe Biden came in 3 points less than what the polls said on the day of the election.

That's also just polls on the Popular Vote, which are almost meaningless. Joe Biden* is going to get an additional 5 Million votes over Trump in California alone and another 1.5 Million over Trump in both New York and California, but they won't translate to any extra Electoral Votes.

Trump is still up an average of 2.8 points in all 7 swing states and leads in 6 of them, with Joe Biden* only being up 0.1 points on Trump in Pennsylvania. In a 5-way race, that number is even worse for Joe Biden* in the swing states.



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Wednesday, April 10, 2024 9:35 PM

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Trump tells wealthy donors he wants to extend his 2017 tax cuts. Here’s why they’d benefit the most

Wealthy donors forked over a record $50.5 million at a recent fundraising dinner for former President Donald Trump, but they could also reap big benefits if he returns to the White House.

At the dinner, hosted by billionaire investor John Paulson, Trump told the crowd that one of his core issues for a second term would be extending the sweeping tax cuts that congressional Republicans approved in 2017. While the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act reduced taxes for most Americans, the rich benefited far more than others.

The speech outlined yet another divide between Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, and President Joe Biden, who is campaigning on raising taxes on the wealthy to fund his social and other priorities while protecting those who earn less than $400,000 a year from tax hikes. Biden’s campaign wasted little time attacking Trump for “promising tax giveaways to billionaire donors.”

“Now, Trump is making it clear to his billionaire buddies that he’ll take his first chance to double down on tax giveaways for the ultra-wealthy – all while he fights to rip away Americans’ health care, gut Social Security and Medicare, and raise costs on working families.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/politics/trump-2017-tax-cuts-rich/index
.html

6ix, how could I not vote for Trump? He knows what is best for my income taxes.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 12:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Who you kiddin' scrub?

You don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out.


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Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:15 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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54% Of Americans Think Biden's Open Borders Aimed At Creating Permanent Democrat Majority: Rasmussen
According to the poll, 43% "strongly agree" that the border crisis is being facilitated for political advantage, while 14% "somewhat agree." 29% "strongly disagree," while 8% "somewhat disagree."

Hispanic voters, despite having leaned Democrat in every general and midterm election since 1980, are actually more likely to believe Biden is exploiting illegal immigration than any other ethnic group. Forty-eight percent strongly agree this is what the Democrat leader is doing, and 20 percent somewhat agree for a combined 68 percent. This compares to 17 percent who strongly disagree and seven percent who somewhat disagree.

A combined 54 percent of white voters agree Biden is trying to create a permanent majority, and a plurality of 47 percent of black voters agree. -National Pulse

Meanwhile 36% of self-identified moderates believe Biden is trying to create a permanent majority, as do 36% of Democrats.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/54-americans-think-bidens-open-bor
ders-aimed-creating-permanent-democrat-majority

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


And the worst part about it is that it isn't "Biden" doing it. He's a meat puppet.

It's been a joint effort by our Democrat and Republican "representatives" for three or four decades now. The only difference back then is that both parties used to use language that would be deemed to harsh today when referring to them. Now one side will call you a Nazi for telling the truth about the problem and the other side pretends to be to scared to do anything about it anymore. The NeoCon part that wanted it too, at least.


It turns out that people have agency beyond what the Government believes are nothing more than statistics. Yup... Even minorities.

As it would turn out, 2nd and 3rd generation Mexican Americans don't much like the idea of a bunch of freeloaders taking their tax dollars and setting up shop here for free without following any of the rules any more than any reasonable white folk who didn't get their brain full of disease by going to college in the last 40 years.

And low-income black areas are getting their schools and freebies taken away to give to illegal foreigners in big cities isn't going down well at all either. It's going to be hard for Biden* to sell that once every 4 year lie that he and Democrats give a shit about these black communities when they're struggling to pay the bills under Bidenflation.


The Biden* Administration says a lot of "nice" things. The entire Leftist run media conglomerate is going to Orwell you into believing a bunch of lies about the economy and everything else under the sun if you're dumb enough to believe them. But the only people that believe anything that's said in those papers and on those shows anymore is college "educated" white people who have a bit more income than most other folk.


This is going to be a very interesting election cycle.



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Thursday, April 11, 2024 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Who you kiddin' scrub?

You don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out.
Are you telling me the guy who cheated to get into college and cheated to get out of Vietnam and cheated on his wives and cheated at golf and cheated students at his scam university and cheated donors to his fake charity was just found liable for cheating on his financial statements? Oh come on, get the fuck out of here.

https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1706783011105096104

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:07 AM

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"Nobody can lead this place": House GOP erupts over “dysfunction” after hardliners kill vote

House Republicans' internal tensions reignited on Wednesday after a group of right-wing hardliners blocked a key federal surveillance bill from coming to a vote.

Why it matters: It marks more than a half-dozen times this Congress that Republicans' right flank ran the party's legislative agenda aground by revolting on a standard party-line procedural vote.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nobody-can-lead-this-place-hou
se-gop-erupts-over-dysfunction-after-hardliners-kill-vote/ar-BB1lprxw?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d333df1347b942bd8ae25ec2fa29b16a&ei=26


These guys couldn't run a car wash.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:13 AM

THG


More to come.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:57 AM

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It's over, it really is.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:59 AM

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Biden is still climbing in the polls. Real Clear Politics has Trumps lead down to 0.3, when in February Trump led by 4.3. Since February, Trump dropped and Biden gained 4 points.

tick tock

T



Oops, 0.2; I think Biden is in for a larger gain within the next few days. Also, this represents an average of the polls taken by different pollsters. Like Rasmussen that has Trump up by 8 or FOX news that has Trump up by 5. And even Grinnell/Selzer that has Trump up by 7. These numbers artificially boost Trumps average because they are no way close to being correct.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:08 AM

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Pennsylvanian Republican: Telling it Like it Is About Trump






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Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:16 AM

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Trump goes into panic mode with DESPERATE stunt






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Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:37 AM

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'Donald Trump did this': Growing outrage over Arizona's abortion ruling






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Thursday, April 11, 2024 1:24 PM

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Thanks for putting the type of people you associate with in video form.

Yuck.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 3:31 PM

THG


Joe Biden Gets Poll Boost in Key Swing State

Nikki Haley voters in North Carolina could hand President Biden victory in the state in November's presidential election, a new poll indicates.

More than half of people in the Tar Heel state who voted for the former U.N. ambassador in the Republican presidential primary told pollsters that they would vote for Biden over former President Donald Trump in a matchup. The share of Biden's vote dropped to 47 per cent among that same group if third-party candidates were considered

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-gets-poll-boost-in-k
ey-swing-state/ar-BB1ls18F?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=bcf56b6b271949b0adc85ecf1cbc5705&ei=59


It continues...

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 3:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Joe Biden Gets Poll Boost in Key Swing State

Nikki Haley voters in North Carolina could hand President Biden victory in the state in November's presidential election, a new poll indicates.

More than half of people in the Tar Heel state who voted for the former U.N. ambassador in the Republican presidential primary told pollsters that they would vote for Biden over former President Donald Trump in a matchup. The share of Biden's vote dropped to 47 per cent among that same group if third-party candidates were considered

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-gets-poll-boost-in-k
ey-swing-state/ar-BB1ls18F?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=bcf56b6b271949b0adc85ecf1cbc5705&ei=59


It continues...

T



If by "it" you mean nothing.

You forgot to read this paragraph, which would have required you to not only read past the headline but click the "Continue Reading" button.

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The Quinnipiac University poll also found that the state was effectively too close to call, with 48 per cent of respondents saying they would vote for Trump versus 46 per cent for Biden, and a third-party candidate could play kingmaker.


Trump is still up 4 points in the polling aggregate in North Carolina, and he's even up on Biden* by 2 points in this poll you just posted. On this day in 2020 Trump only lead Biden* by 0.4 points, or 1/10th of his lead on Biden* today. In 2016, Hilary Clinton was leading Trump by 2 points on this day.


Where are your critical thinking skills Ted? Did you forget how to read articles and you only read headlines now?



And seriously... why are you trying to break your brain by failing to understand how polling works anyhow?

Trump's going to prison right?



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Thursday, April 11, 2024 5:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Also, in 2020, the final polling aggregate for North Carolina was in favor of Trump by 0.2 points, and he won by 1.3 points (so reality was 1.1 points in Trump's favor over the polls).

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/north-ca
rolina/trump-vs-biden

In 2016, the final polling aggregate for North Carolina was in favor of Trump by 1 point. Trump won by 3.7 points (so reality was 2.7 points in Trump's favor over the polls).

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/north-ca
rolina/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson


Trump is up 4 points now in the NC aggregate. If this were 2020 and election day were tomorrow, Trump would win NC by 5.1 points. If it were 2016 and election day were tomorrow, Trump would win NC by 6.7 points.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 5:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Also, also...

The Quinnepiac University poll didn't actually poll Republican voters. It polled people who voted for Nikki Haley.

And we already know that a large party of Haley's money spending was appealing to Democrats to vote for her against Trump in open primaries and even switch party affiliation before the primary to vote for her against Trump.

NC parties decide before an election if they will allow unaffiliated voters to vote in their primaries. It was decided this year that they could do so. We don't know the amount of Democrat voters who usually skip primaries and were unaffiliated until this year voted against Trump in 2024. We also don't know how many switched party affiliation up to 25 days before election so they could vote against Trump in the primary either.

https://www.vote411.org/node/12160
https://www.ncsbe.gov/registering/choosing-your-party-affiliation

There's a lot of nuance to polling that you are either not intelligent enough to wrap your head around and/or you're far too lazy to investigate yourself for to give any meaningful analysis about polling and what it means.



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Thursday, April 11, 2024 5:52 PM

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In the case of North Carolina and the polls in general. I wonder if it is lost on some here that poll numbers from different pollsters posted in real clear politics, in some cases, are two months old? And that these poll numbers are still used today to comprise averages. These are the numbers used to show who currently leads.

For instance; Bloomberg/Mrncons poll is a month old. It shows Trump up by 6 points. And is only one of many old polls that figure into who currently leads. Yup, I think that's lost on some here.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 8:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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In the case of North Carolina and the polls in general. I wonder if it is lost on some here that poll numbers from different pollsters posted in real clear politics, in some cases, are two months old? And that these poll numbers are still used today to comprise averages. These are the numbers used to show who currently leads.

For instance; Bloomberg/Mrncons poll is a month old. It shows Trump up by 6 points. And is only one of many old polls that figure into who currently leads. Yup, I think that's lost on some here.

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And it's handled no different than it was last election cycle, so I fail to understand your point here.

Look at the graphs of the collective aggregates of all 3 cycles together and you'll see they behave very similarly as far as time and relative losses and gains by the players go, even if the numbers were quite a bit more in Democrats' favor the last two election cycles.


The truth is, under the same system of weighted averages used in the last election cycle it looks as though Trump is quite a bit ahead of Joe Biden* any way that you look at it right now. And history tells us that both previous candidates of Trump had a much greater supposed advantage on Trump than they do today. And we also know that the advantages stated for Democrats over the last two election cycles via the polls were incorrectly in favor of the Democrat candidate. The differences to the polls and reality were not inconsequential.

There is no Democrat advantage here in 2024 by any metric. For the first time in at least 8 years and 3 election cycles, Democrats enter this Presidential Election at a deficit in polling averages, a deficit on trust, and a deficit on the overall beliefs that Democrats are competent enough to handle all of the problems the nation faces right now.


That number you're looking at doesn't keep going up, Ted. Not when Biden*'s favorability level is 40.6%. Except for a few rare events while he was in office, Trump hardly ever spent a day wavering under 44% favorability and spent most of his time in office above 45%. By comparison, Joe Biden* has spent a majority of his favorability while elected under 40% in the aggregate.

This is just around Joe Biden*'s ceiling in polling. Unless there are some major news shifts over something, this number starts going right back the other way for a while and vice-versa until Election Day. Just like it does all the time.


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Friday, April 12, 2024 9:56 AM

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I fail to understand your point here.
Trump’s Big Lie About Biden Implodes After MAGA Ally Admits Truth

It’s one message for MAGA-land and the opposite one for Jill Stein voters. And Trump will get away with it.

By Greg Sargent | April 11, 2024

https://newrepublic.com/article/180617/steve-bannon-trump-lies-biden-j
ill-stein

Steve Bannon no doubt thought he was being deviously clever. Speaking with The New York Times this week, he elaborated on a sophisticated plan that Donald Trump’s allies have developed for boosting third-party candidates, so they siphon votes from President Biden.

A key part of this scheme, Bannon noted, entails boosting expected Green Party candidate Jill Stein by highlighting oil production under Biden to pull environmentally concerned voters away from him. As Bannon put it:

No Republican knows that oil production under Biden is higher than ever. But Jill Stein’s people do. … Stein is furious about the oil drilling. The college kids are furious about it. The more exposure these [third-party candidates] get, the better it is for us.

Whoa, that’s some serious 11-dimensional chess, Steve! Except for one thing. If you think for a second about Bannon’s quote—that “oil production under Biden is higher than ever”—it entirely undermines one of Trump’s biggest lies: the claim that Biden’s effort to transition the United States to a decarbonized economy has destroyed the nation’s “energy independence,” leaving us weak and hollow to our very core.

This saga captures something essential about how MAGA-world fights the information wars. You’ll note that Bannon is not even slightly troubled by the idea that telling the truth about Biden’s record to one set of voters—left-leaning, green-minded ones—might contradict one of Trump’s most frequent lies to countless others.

It isn’t just that for Bannon, assertions should be evaluated purely for their instrumental usefulness. It’s also that he apparently has total confidence that voters who really need to hear the truth he uttered—those in the industrial and Appalachian heartlands who are the targets of Trump’s propaganda—never, ever will, even if he admits to it right in the paper of record.

It’s hard to overstate how central Trump’s story about “energy independence” is to his campaign. His basic claim is that under his presidency, we produced record levels of oil, inherently making us strong, whereas under Biden, we’re seeing a “war on American energy” responsible for many ills: deindustrialization, vulnerability to leftist enemies within, dependence on China and other nefarious “globalist” actors, and all-around national decline.

In reality, Biden’s green policies are facilitating billions of dollars in investments in rebuilding the industrial base via green energy manufacturing, which is creating a whole lot of advanced manufacturing jobs for people without college degrees—exactly the targets of Trump’s demagoguery. Those policies are driving a manufacturing boom, ironically in red-leaning communities. Green manufacturing makes us stronger, not weaker—more prepared for a future in which climate change becomes a more pressing threat, not just to the world, but to our own national interests.

Importantly, all this is happening while the U.S., under Biden, is producing more oil and more natural gas than ever before. Incidentally, as Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler details, Trump wasn’t even that responsible for the recent oil boom anyway: It started before his presidency, thanks to new energy technologies.

“The U.S. is now producing more oil and gas than it ever has, and exporting more than ever,” Jesse Jenkins, an energy expert at Princeton University, told me. “We’re a net exporter of all fossil fuels. So we’ve achieved that long-sought goal of physical energy security.”

Now the idea of “energy independence” is confusing to begin with. Even if we export more than ever before, oil is a global commodity, which inevitably makes us vulnerable to international shocks. But the answer to that is to wean ourselves off fossil fuels, not to drill more, as Trump wants. Regardless, by Trump’s own metric—that “energy independence” is good, that net exports of fossil fuel energy make us definitionally strong—we’ve achieved more of this under Biden. And critically, his policies are at the same time transitioning us to a post-carbon economy.

Bannon knows all this. Yet Trump and his allies keep repeating the contrary story. “They obviously know this narrative is a crock of lies,” Jenkins said.

It’s worth stressing that some progressive voters might nonetheless be reasonably upset about oil production under Biden. But the broader story remains that Biden is moving us toward a decarbonized economy by using the levers of government to boost demand for and production of renewable energy sources over time.

“What’s important to note is that U.S. greenhouse gas emissions are falling,” Jenkins says. That both this and robust oil production and exports are occurring simultaneously, he notes, would probably be viewed positively by moderate voters, including in Appalachia and the industrial Midwest.

That is, if those voters hear any of this through the fog of MAGA agitprop. Trump’s attacks on Biden’s energy “weakness” are designed to tell a meta story that has little to do with policy details: Trump will protect us from an array of shadowy forces associated with green energy—leftism, China, ill will toward good ol’ American fossil fuel–guzzling SUVs—while Biden is making us vulnerable to them.

You can see how this works in Trump’s proposal for across-the-board tariffs. These would hike prices for American consumers—they would impose a tax—even as Democrats have opted for green policies that move away from the more traditional policy of a carbon tax. Yet as Brian Beutler and Matthew Yglesias explain, Trump can still present his tariffs as a form of protection and Biden’s green agenda as a form of vulnerability, because each of these policies “code” that way for many voters.

Bannon understands all this. Strikingly, he declares that “no Republican knows” that oil production is so high under Biden, which is another way of saying that no Republican voters know that Trump is lying in their faces. Bannon and other MAGA propagandists are making sure of that. They are using their influence over information flows to those voters to ensure that the truth never reaches them. And they’re absolutely confident in their ability to succeed.

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Friday, April 12, 2024 11:04 AM

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I fail to understand your point here.


My actual quote was "And it's handled no different than it was last election cycle, so I fail to understand your point here. "

It was directed at Ted and it was regarding how polling is conducted.

The rest of your message has been left ignored.

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I fail to understand your point here.


My actual quote was "And it's handled no different than it was last election cycle, so I fail to understand your point here. "

It was directed at Ted and it was regarding how polling is conducted.

The rest of your message has been left ignored.
I knew you would make my point for me without you ever understanding what you did. For those who do not have my experience with Trumptards: 6ix and Trump "know" they are "smart". But their lives are an overflowing toilet of trouble because they are not what they believe themselves to be. No amount of bad experiences Trumptards acquire will convince them that their troubles are caused by their stupidity.

Specific examples of stupidity: Trump or his lawyers have been in courtrooms thousands of times because of his atrocious behavior and stupid mouth. 6ix will be in a doctor's office hundreds of times because of his atrocious drinking, smoking, and stupid mouth which got him stabbed in the kidney.

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Friday, April 12, 2024 11:26 AM

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I fail to understand your point here.


My actual quote was "And it's handled no different than it was last election cycle, so I fail to understand your point here. "

It was directed at Ted and it was regarding how polling is conducted.

The rest of your message has been left ignored.
I knew you would make my point for me without you ever understanding what you did.


If your point was that you consistently post quotes from other people out of context and reply to them with an unrelated wall of your own bullshit, mission accomplished.

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If your point was that you consistently post quotes from other people out of context and reply to them with an unrelated wall of your own bullshit, mission accomplished.
6ix, your life is an overflowing toilet of trouble because you are not smart. You clogged your toilet yet don't realize it. No amount of bad experiences Trumptards acquire will convince them that their troubles are caused by their stupidity.

Specific examples of stupidity: Trump or his lawyers have been in courtrooms thousands of times because of his atrocious behavior and stupid mouth. 6ix will be in a doctor's office hundreds of times because of his atrocious drinking, smoking, and stupid mouth which got him stabbed in the kidney.

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Friday, April 12, 2024 11:45 AM

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If your point was that you consistently post quotes from other people out of context and reply to them with an unrelated wall of your own bullshit, mission accomplished.
6ix, your life is an overflowing toilet of trouble because you are not smart. You clogged your toilet yet don't realize it. No amount of bad experiences Trumptards acquire will convince them that their troubles are caused by their stupidity.

Specific examples of stupidity: Trump or his lawyers have been in courtrooms thousands of times because of his atrocious behavior and stupid mouth. 6ix will be in a doctor's office hundreds of times because of his atrocious drinking, smoking, and stupid mouth which got him stabbed in the kidney.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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My life is just fine, honey. Have fun at work today paying off interest on all the shit you'll never own.

Also, I was never stabbed in the kidney.



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Friday, April 12, 2024 3:52 PM

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My life is just fine, honey. Have fun at work today paying off interest on all the shit you'll never own.

Also, I was never stabbed in the kidney.
6ix, you said you were pissing blood in the hospital. And your life is an overflowing clogged toilet just as Trump is as fucked up in the head as you are. Here is his latest story:

Donald Trump wanted Congress to kill renewal of the FISA surveillance program:

Trump had urged members to “KILL FISA” in a social-media post Wednesday, and holdout Republicans then blocked the bill from proceeding, forcing leaders to scramble to rework the proposal.

....While dozens of mostly minor changes geared at safeguarding privacy were included, an amendment vote to add a warrant requirement failed Friday in a nail biter of a vote, with 212 in favor and 212 against.

I wish the House had added a warrant requirement. It's not as if the FISA court ever turns them down. I could even have accepted a streamlined warrant requirement—just something to keep the FBI honest. Even if you accept that its massive violations of surveillance rules are mostly honest mistakes, many of them aren't. Requiring a warrant is the best way to cut that down.

So does this mean I agree with Trump? Not even a little bit. Trump doesn't give a hoot about warrants. He wanted the entire program killed out of personal pique. He thinks the program is used to spy on him, so he wants it gone.

But the program doesn't spy on him and it does spy on lots of potential terrorists. This is a good example of how Trump's disordered mind is genuinely dangerous. His ego makes him the center of everything, and if he were president he presumably would have killed renewal completely, thus ending an important national security program. All because he's nuts.
https://jabberwocking.com/fisa-renewal-passes-house-unfortunately/

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Friday, April 12, 2024 7:45 PM

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My life is just fine, honey. Have fun at work today paying off interest on all the shit you'll never own.

Also, I was never stabbed in the kidney.
6ix, you said you were pissing blood in the hospital.


No. I didn't. If you're going to attempt to use my history against me at least get it right.

I was stabbed in the back while being brutally beaten by four guys.

The doctors shoved a catheter up my pee hole and into my bladder and another one up my nose and into my stomach to drain everything out. Then they cut open my belly to insert a third tube. This one had an IV bag full of saline in it. They held it up and emptied it into me, then they unceremoniously threw it right onto the floor and watched it fill up without any red in it.

One of the doctors told me that the guy must have been a surgeon to have stabbed me where he did and not nick a single organ. I assume if a priest were there he would have told me about my guardian angel.

Then they pulled the tube from my nose and ripped the catheter out of my dick and I screamed like a banshee.

I then got up, looked around at all the doctors and interns that were there during this whole process and said "I'd rather you had all gotten in a big circle and beat the shit out of me again".

I'm sure they all got another great laugh when I went into the bathroom and screamed bloody murder while taking the most painful piss in existence right after that.


So no. I was never stabbed in the kidney, nor did I ever say to anyone that I was.

Your memory is just as faulty as I knew it already was. You would do best not to make an ass of yourself like this when you can't keep any facts straight in that hate-filled little brain of yours.



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Sunday, April 14, 2024 5:05 PM

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No. I didn't. If you're going to attempt to use my history against me at least get it right.

I was stabbed in the back while being brutally beaten by four guys.
No sane person believes your fake story where you are the hero abused by an evil system. Trump tells similar stories about heroic Trump versus four evil prosecutors attacking simultaneously:

How Donald Trump Gets Special Treatment in the Legal System

The former president rails against a “two-tiered system of justice.” But he’s the one benefiting from it.

By James Romoser | 04/12/2024 05:00 AM EDT

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/12/trump-trial-special-
treatment-justice-system-00151814

Nearly 500,000 people in America are in jail while they await criminal trials. Trump is not one of them. He was allowed to remain free with minimal conditions of release. The central condition is that he must refrain from saying anything that would threaten or harass potential witnesses, co-defendants or jurors. His Georgia bond order, for instance, states: “The Defendant shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or her to be a co-defendant or witness in this case or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice.” It goes on to say that the rule applies to both “direct” and “indirect” threats. Trump’s release conditions in his other cases contain similar admonitions.

Yet Trump has repeatedly used his public soapbox to hurl menacing language that — if uttered by any other defendant — would likely be deemed to have crossed the line.

In August, just three days after he was indicted in the federal election subversion case in Washington, D.C., Trump posted on Truth Social: “If you go after me, I’m coming after you.” In September, he suggested that retired Gen. Mark Milley, former chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and a potential witness in the federal election case, should be executed for treason. In October, he attacked Michael Cohen, the star witness against him in his New York case, and he attacked his former White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, a co-defendant in the Georgia case and a potential witness in others.

And that’s to say nothing of Trump’s relentless verbal attacks on his prosecutors and judges (and their families), many of whom have faced threats to their personal safety.

Prosecutors have raised the alarm about how all of this mudslinging poses grave risks — of pressuring witnesses, polluting the jury pool and even stoking potential violence. Trump’s lawyers, in turn, have insisted that, as a presidential candidate, he must have wide latitude under the First Amendment to criticize his adversaries. Judges have imposed various gag orders, crafted and recrafted in careful legalese, that attempt to demarcate exactly what Trump can and cannot say. But no one has seriously attempted to revoke his pretrial release and send him to jail.

Similarly situated high-profile defendants have not had so much luck. Take, for instance, Sam Bankman-Fried: While awaiting trial for securities fraud, he had his bail revoked and was immediately ordered to jail after he contacted a potential witness and provided information to the press about a government cooperator.

“Whatever you think of those actions, they don’t come close to the kinds of attacks that Trump has leveled against anticipated witnesses in the Manhattan trial, like Michael Cohen, for example,” Noam Biale, a criminal defense lawyer at the law firm Sher Tremonte, told me.

“Nor did Bankman-Fried have the capacity to inspire followers to commit acts of violence,” Biale added. “So I think it’s pretty obvious that if other defendants acted in the manner Trump has, their bail would be revoked and they’d be forced to defend the case from pretrial detention.”

The judiciary’s unique solicitude to Trump runs all the way up to the Supreme Court.

In February, the high court effectively stalled Trump’s federal election subversion trial for at least several months so that the justices can weigh Trump’s claim that he has “presidential immunity” from the charges. Every lower-court judge to consider Trump’s immunity theory — that he can’t be charged with essentially any crime for actions he took in office — has rejected it. And many legal scholars have described the claim as so unserious that even the very conservative Supreme Court, typically receptive to robust claims of executive power, is unlikely to adopt it.

But merely by taking up the issue at all — and by refusing to do so on the accelerated basis that special counsel Jack Smith originally requested — the justices have handed Trump a potentially huge victory. It’s no secret that he is seeking to run out the clock in all of his cases until Election Day. And the Supreme Court’s handling of the immunity issue has significantly increased the odds that voters will go to the polls in the next election before a jury weighs in on Trump’s attempts to overturn the last election.

As University of Chicago law professor Aziz Huq has shown, the Supreme Court’s conduct here is all the more confounding because it contradicts the court’s usual approach in criminal cases. Defendants routinely ask the high court for additional judicial review in the hopes of delaying or avoiding criminal punishment, and the court is rarely receptive to the arguments of those defendants — at least the ones not named Trump.

Trump enjoys yet another advantage that literally no other criminal defendant possesses: the fact that he personally appointed some of the key decision-makers in his cases.

Three of the nine Supreme Court justices are Trump appointees, and so is the judge presiding over the classified documents case, Aileen Cannon.

More at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/12/trump-trial-special-
treatment-justice-system-00151814

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Sunday, April 14, 2024 6:35 PM

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No. I didn't. If you're going to attempt to use my history against me at least get it right.

I was stabbed in the back while being brutally beaten by four guys.
No sane person believes your fake story where you are the hero abused by an evil system.


I'm glad that they don't. I've never painted such a picture of myself, so I'm confused that this is the conclusion that you've come to after all these years.

I've made a lot of mistakes. I'm never shy of admitting that. 6ix is a real person with nothing but a pseudonym and a lack of a filter for letting out thoughts between them. A filter which I actually possess in the REAL world.

Forget about a hero... I've done a TON of shit you shouldn't do, and I will spend the rest of my life paying for some of those poor choices. I'm under no illusion who is responsible for those problems. A good deal of that is detailed somewhere on this site. I'm not a role model for one, and the entire concept of roll models is a load of horseshit anyway. Everybody is capable of good and bad. Everybody has done bad stuff. Everybody can also feel shame for the bad things they've done. Everybody can also change.

The Second handle is nothing but the self-fellatio of a sociopath who considers himself and his opinions all that is good and right with the world. Second is rich. Second has never made a mistake. Second has never succumbed to any vice. Second has not and will not ever become sick. Second votes Democrat. Second is perfect. Second is the most boring person who ever lived.

Your real life is MUCH more interesting than how you choose to present it in here. Tell us about the real you. We already know your head is at least as fucked up as the rest of ours are.

Let's hear a little bit about it.

Stop hiding behind that poorly crafted mask you refuse to ever take off.

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Monday, April 15, 2024 9:13 AM

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I'm glad that they don't. I've never painted such a picture of myself, so I'm confused that this is the conclusion that you've come to after all these years.

I've made a lot of mistakes. I'm never shy of admitting that. 6ix is a real person with nothing but a pseudonym and a lack of a filter for letting out thoughts between them. A filter which I actually possess in the REAL world.

Forget about a hero... I've done a TON of shit you shouldn't do, and I will spend the rest of my life paying for some of those poor choices. I'm under no illusion who is responsible for those problems. A good deal of that is detailed somewhere on this site. I'm not a role model for one, and the entire concept of roll models is a load of horseshit anyway. Everybody is capable of good and bad. Everybody has done bad stuff. Everybody can also feel shame for the bad things they've done. Everybody can also change.

The Second handle is nothing but the self-fellatio of a sociopath who considers himself and his opinions all that is good and right with the world. Second is rich. Second has never made a mistake. Second has never succumbed to any vice. Second has not and will not ever become sick. Second votes Democrat. Second is perfect. Second is the most boring person who ever lived.

Your real life is MUCH more interesting than how you choose to present it in here. Tell us about the real you. We already know your head is at least as fucked up as the rest of ours are.

Let's hear a little bit about it.

Stop hiding behind that poorly crafted mask you refuse to ever take off.
6ix, send the above to a philosopher to get an explanation of what you just did wrong. My simplified explanation is that you halfheartedly admitted to behaving evilly, but very unspecific about what you did. Trump has admitted in the past that his past is not perfect, too. So much truth between him and you. You two have that in common. Helpless to stop yourself, you proceed to do more wrong by slandering "second". Trump indulges in slander all the time. Again, you two have that in common. 6ix and Trump are a matching set.

Now for a prediction: Trump will not stop making wrong decisions and slandering people who point out his horrendous mistakes. He is in court this week for one of those mistakes. Neither will 6ix stop. That prediction is based on what I see with my own eyes, not through their words, about what other Trumptards are doing with their foolish lives. In November the Trumptards will certify their loyalty by voting for Trump. Trumptards have been wrecking themselves and their local economies for decades. I am hoping there aren't enough certified Trumptards to wreck a country.

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Monday, April 15, 2024 1:05 PM

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SIX, every time SECOND gets pinned down he reliably fires off a fusilade of lies to shift the conversation.

I think everyone here, even THUGR, thinks that SECOND is off his nut.

He's a perpetual liar and troll. Don't try correcting him, except as an object lesson to others on a specific point bc he's mentally lost.


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Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Monday, April 15, 2024 3:42 PM

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SIX, every time SECOND gets pinned down he reliably fires off a fusilade of lies to shift the conversation.

I think everyone here, even THUGR, thinks that SECOND is off his nut.

He's a perpetual liar and troll. Don't try correcting him, except as an object lesson to others on a specific point bc he's mentally lost.


I do feel like I'm trying to have a conversation with an alien or a sub-standard A.I. who are aware that the English language exists, and they show a moderate grasp on it, but you're never actually able to have a real conversation with them because they don't actually have anything more than a surface level of understanding on how to communicate while using it.

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Monday, April 15, 2024 6:06 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, in his iteration as REAVERFAN, I called REAVERBOT bc he was like a really, really stupid AI. SECOND does seem to have headed in that direction.

Don't expect an intelligent response. Or even an unintelligent one. He just ... spews. Yanno?

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Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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I do feel like I'm trying to have a conversation with an alien or a sub-standard A.I. who are aware that the English language exists, and they show a moderate grasp on it, but you're never actually able to have a real conversation with them because they don't actually have anything more than a surface level of understanding on how to communicate while using it.
The only people currently running for president who appear on Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs are:

1. Donald Trump

2. Robert Kennedy Jr.

I'm sure they spent their time, oh I don't know, reading the Bible?

Kennedy has an amazing grasp of English, but when asked about Epstein his English became gibberish.
https://newrepublic.com/post/179637/robert-f-kennedy-jr-jeffrey-epstei
n

Trump also converses well in English, but when asked about Epstein his English also becomes gibberish! “This is what the Democrats do to their Republican Opponent, who is leading them, by a lot, in the Polls. This is A.I., and it is very dangerous for our Country!” Trump posted on his Truth Social site. “I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island. Strong Laws ought to be developed against A.I. It will be a big and very dangerous problem in the future!”
https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epstein
s-plane-7-times/

P.S. Seven times Trump was on Epstein's plane to pleasure island.
Trump is a lying sack of shit times seven.

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Monday, April 15, 2024 9:19 PM

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Joe Biden* didn't need to go on Lolita Express. He fucked his daughter on the regular in the shower.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Joe Biden* didn't need to go on Lolita Express. He fucked his daughter on the regular in the shower.
Think about what it means to habitually slander, 6ix. You and Trump do it all the time. Then think about Signym and your often repeated opinion summed up in two words: "Fuck Ukraine." Between your constant slandering and your inability to understand right from wrong and truth from falsehood (see Trump for a prime example of someone with the same disability), it is predictable that you and Trump have had troubled lives full of sound and fury.

All the Trumptards I know find Trump's characteristics attractive. I don't have to speculate why. It is because they display Trump's traits in their lives. Those traits do not serve them or Trump well. It is why Trump and his Trumptards have to cheat on their taxes. Trump will not be sharing his IRS Form 1040 unless the Supreme Court forces him but Biden voluntarily already has.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/04/15/bidens-earned-
620000-in-2023-paid-23-7-in-federal-income-taxes/73334197007/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 16, 2024 9:44 AM

THG


Fact; Trump is out on bail in at least 4 states. Fact; he is currently being tried in New York for allegedly falsifying business records and campaign finance violations. He is charged with 34 felonies.

tick tock

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Fact; Trump is out on bail in at least 4 states. Fact; he is currently being tried in New York for allegedly falsifying business records and campaign finance violations. He is charged with 34 felonies.

tick tock

T
Don’t be surprised if Trump is NOT punished. The American legal system has a long history of NOT convicting big-shot politicians. For example, Vice President Aaron Burr murdered Alexander Hamilton but wasn’t convicted. Later, Burr was in and out of custody for treason but was not convicted. The Confederate political and military hierarchy was not convicted, but there were a million deaths from their war. Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew, his V.P., cheated, lied, and swindled, but were never imprisoned for anything despite millions of deaths from their wars. The same is true of George Bush and his V.P. Dick Cheney.

On the other hand, half of all living former South Korean presidents are now in prison - Oct 9, 2018. They did not even have to wrongly kill a million people or commit treason or start an insurrection to be jailed. All they had to do wrong was steal money while in office.
https://www.google.com/search?q=south+korea+presidents+in+prison

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 16, 2024 1:50 PM

THG


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Originally posted by THG:
Fact; Trump is out on bail in at least 4 states. Fact; he is currently being tried in New York for allegedly falsifying business records and campaign finance violations. He is charged with 34 felonies.

tick tock

T
Don’t be surprised if Trump is NOT punished. The American legal system has a long history of NOT convicting big-shot politicians. For example, Vice President Aaron Burr murdered Alexander Hamilton but wasn’t convicted. Later, Burr was in and out of custody for treason but was not convicted. The Confederate political and military hierarchy was not convicted, but there were a million deaths from their war. Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew, his V.P., cheated, lied, and swindled, but were never imprisoned for anything despite millions of deaths from their wars. The same is true of George Bush and his V.P. Dick Cheney.

On the other hand, half of all living former South Korean presidents are now in prison - Oct 9, 2018. They did not even have to wrongly kill a million people or commit treason or start an insurrection to be jailed. All they had to do wrong was steal money while in office.
https://www.google.com/search?q=south+korea+presidents+in+prison




It won't be the system that acquits. It will be a Trumper who manages to get on the jury who themselves, has no respect for the rule of law.

Anything is possible but for Trump, it just got real.

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It won't be the system that acquits. It will be a Trumper who manages to get on the jury who themselves, has no respect for the rule of law.

Anything is possible but for Trump, it just got real.

T
The entire Confederate political and military hierarchy escaped well-deserved execution by hanging because Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's successor, was an ex-slaveholder pardoning every criminal in a sweeping one-page document. A single person, assassin John Wilkes Boothe in this case, can make a difference in whether justice is served or denied.

In a final proclamation on December 25, 1868, Johnson declared "unconditionally, and without reservation, ... a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and the laws ..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardons_for_ex-Confederates#Andrew_Johns
on

If Trump wins in November, he will be the 21st Century's Andrew Johnson pardoning the worst people in America, including himself. I forgot to mention that Johnson and Trump competed for the Worst President. Trump pardoning himself will forever clinch his place as The Worst: https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/artic
les/ranking-americas-worst-presidents

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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