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Elections; 2024
Friday, March 8, 2024 11:56 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by second: One of democracy’s core premises is that elections are not like armed conflict, where either you win or you die. Since all parties the DNC does not accept the basic rules of the game, like HONEST competitive elections and free speech, the stakes of elections are not existential. Political opponents are less enemies than rivals; disagreement isn’t disaster. Authoritarian populists like Donald Trump authoritarian globalists like Biden* win by attacking this foundational democratic norm. They demonize their opponents, arguing repeatedly that their opponents are not rivals but rather monsters bent on the country’s destruction. They claim that the system is in the enemy’s corrupt hands and not to be trusted, that their faction and our leader deserve absolute power (“I alone can fix it,” as Trump said in 2016). The nefarious plans of the domestic enemy must be resisted by any means necessary, even ones that might seem extreme.
Friday, March 8, 2024 12:07 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, March 8, 2024 2:33 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Everything... EVERYTHING... that you* accuse Trump of doing, you* have done, in spades. Of course, you will never acknowledge your crimes, much less take responsibility for them. But you* should be brought up on charges.
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Saturday, March 9, 2024 8:00 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by second: Donald Trump Just Enraged Republicans With One Post About Covid Vaccines By Nick Mordowanec | Mar 09, 2024 at 7:36 AM EST https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-just-enraged-republicans-one-post-1877476 "The amount of anger I have over this can't be quantified in words," Tracy Beanz, editor-in-chief of UncoverDC, wrote on Friday. "Almost everything that makes you angry about the authoritarian government response to the pandemic started with the Trump administration," wrote commentator Matt Kibbe. "Reminder: Biden simply doubled down on the same policies." Rumble personality Ryan Matta wrote that it was a valid reason not to purchase any more "MAGA gear," adding: "realDonaldTrump will be wearing pfizer hat at his next rally! WTF is wrong with this man? Who the F*** would say this s***! We all have friends family and children we know who were murdered by these vaccines! Y'all need to have a come-to-Jesus moment with this man REAL QUICK! GOSH DAMN THIS MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL and I'd take a bullet for Trump!" It wasn't just conservatives who slammed Trump for touting vaccines. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., an independent candidate running for president who has also been described by some as anti-vaccine due to his skepticism of the efficacy of such drugs, criticized Trump's post. "Donald Trump clearly hasn't learned from his Covid era mistakes," he wrote on X. "He fails to recognize how ineffective his warp speed vaccine is as the ninth shot is being recommended to seniors. Even more troubling is the documented harm being caused by the shot to so many innocent children and adults who are suffering myocarditis, pericarditis and brain inflammation." The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, March 9, 2024 9:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., an independent candidate running for president who has also been described by some as anti-vaccine due to his skepticism of the efficacy of such drugs, criticized Trump's post.
Quote:Democratic politicians raising concerns about how quickly coronavirus vaccines could be rolled out to the public appear to be bolstering anti-vax groups. By highlighting issues around the vaccine development process, politicians on the left may be inadvertently increasing skepticism among the wider public. "I think it's the visibility," Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told Newsweek. "[There's] more eyeballs on the process than has ever occurred in the past. Vaccine development in the past has been very obscure. There has not been much transparency and the first time people hear about vaccines is when the CDC recommends them. "This time because of the pandemic and because there's a lot of people for the first time saying we may be forced to take this, that a lot more people are looking at it. People for the first time are seeing how the sausage gets made." Kennedy, a lawyer and prominent anti-vaccine activist, said that around the middle of August—when the Trump administration began suggesting a vaccine may be ready before the November 3 election—Democratic leaders started voicing skepticism about the development process for the first time. And concerns about the speed at which vaccines are being developed, and the potential for their release via Emergency Use Authorization (EUA,) have now been raised by many political leaders.
Quote:On September 24, New York governor Andrew Cuomo said the state will independently review all vaccines authorized by the federal government. "Frankly, I'm not going to trust the federal government's opinion and I wouldn't recommend to New Yorkers based on the federal government's opinion," he said in a statement.
Quote:At the start of September, Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris said she would not trust President Donald Trump's word alone that any vaccine developed is safe and efficient. A week later, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden made similar remarks during a speech in Delaware, saying, "I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don't trust Donald Trump." Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi, Democratic speaker of the United States House of Representatives, has said any vaccine must meet safety standards before being released if it is to be accepted by the public. "Unless there is confidence that the vaccine has gone through the clinical trials, and then is approved by the independent scientific advisory committee, as established to do just this, there will be doubts that people will have." According to a survey from the Pew Research Center carried out between September 8 and 13, half of U.S. adults now say they probably or definitely would not get a vaccine to prevent COVID-19, if it were available today. While vaccine skepticism was still higher among Republicans—as it has been historically—there was a marked increase among Democrats. In May, 50 percent said they would "definitely" get the vaccine. By September, this had fallen to 24 percent.
Quote:"There is undeniably a lot more skepticism about vaccines," Kennedy said. "It's gone from maybe 5 to 10 percent to up to 50 percent range. I think it's a good thing people are watching [the vaccine development process]." In a Facebook post, Texans For Vaccine Choice founder Jackie Schlegel also said there had been a surge in support from both political sides. She said the aim of the group was to promote vaccine choice and informed consent, rather than stop people getting vaccinated. Shlegel told Newsweek there had been a six-fold increase in membership since the start of the pandemic, with parents concerned at the potential of another vaccine being mandated—especially one that is being rushed. "What's uniting many people are concerns that this potentially fast-tracked, liability-free vaccine will be mandated to return to normal life," she said. "Having top Democrat leaders raise these questions has given an even greater voice to the concerns shared by many who believe in sound science, safe vaccines, and industry accountability." Discussing people's concerns—and what could be done to alleviate them—Schlegel said the industry must be transparent in its processes and encourage the public to make informed medical decisions with their health providers. "Censorship of the conversation, mainly condemning voices that even ask questions about a potential vaccination, in concert with ever-changing recommendations from government entities only deepen the concerns from many Americans," she said. "The doctor-patient relationship must come first, and a quick-to-market vaccine must not be mandated for anyone."
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THG
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Sunday, March 10, 2024 7:41 AM
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Quote:"Former President Trump has turned losing with grace into losing with disgrace," Block writes in his book. "He has spawned a group of losing candidates who would rather howl about voter fraud — without justification — than display the leadership qualities demanded by the positions for which they ran." He continued: "Some of these failed candidates who make meritless accusations of voter fraud don't seem to understand their own claims. Others spurn factual accuracy. For these folks, the end goal has nothing to do with winning an election. It is about raising money or profile — or worse, about undermining our republic."
Sunday, March 10, 2024 11:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Oh come off it. Do I need to show you the collection of videos of Democrat politicians calling Trump's 2016 election fraudulent again? Hillary still says that 2016 was fraudulent to anybody who asks her going on 8 years later.
Sunday, March 10, 2024 11:58 PM
Monday, March 11, 2024 12:02 AM
Quote:Cast your mind back to those heady days of 2012 when Barack Obama vanquished Mitt Romney and won a second term in the White House. In that election, Obama carried nonwhite working-class (noncollege) voters by a massive 67 points, while losing white college graduates by 7 points. That means Obama did 74 points better among the nonwhite working class than among white college graduates. In the next two presidential elections, that differential steadily narrowed as Democrats did worse among nonwhite working-class voters even as they improved among white college graduates. In 2020, Biden carried the nonwhite working class by 48 points (19 points less than Obama did in 2012) while carrying white college graduates by 9 points (16 points better than Obama). That cut the Democrats’ positive differential between these two groups almost in half, down to 39 points. Now it’s Biden running for a second term and, astonishingly, that positive differential may have entirely disappeared. According to the just-released New York Times/Siena poll, Biden is actually doing worse among the nonwhite working class, carrying them by a mere six points, than among white college graduates, where he enjoys a 15 point advantage over Trump. Amazing. There is perhaps no better illustration of the Democrats’ transformation into a Brahmin Left party, beloved by the educated but increasingly viewed with suspicion by the working classes of all races.
Monday, March 11, 2024 9:27 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Nobody is trying to claim anything in the current economy.
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Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You've never proven me wrong once in your life, boy. So we'll just sit here and watch you post dumb bullshit everyday like you always do until November when your life comes crashing down on you. Until then, go back to ignoring me before I decide to actively make you out to look like the idiot you are again.
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I make no predictions for 2024. What is incomprehensible is the DNC actually running Biden. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think a long crook is gonna come out from behind the curtains and yank Biden offstage. ("Medical condition") And this will happen as suddenly and without warning as Vicki Nudelman leaving the scene. A smart DNC operative would already be looking for alternatives. A good case was made for this happening in September- after the convention but far enough in advance of the election to create a new campaign around a new face. SIGNYM
Monday, March 11, 2024 7:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I make no predictions for 2024. SIGNYM
Monday, March 11, 2024 7:27 PM
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Quote:THUGR: You just keep thinking that comrade. And get off my land.
Monday, March 11, 2024 9:03 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:THUGR: You just keep thinking that comrade. And get off my land. Well, at least now you admit we live in the same country. Cue "Russian troll" in 3 ... 2 ... 1... SIGNYM
Monday, March 11, 2024 11:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: New polling shows female support for Trump dropped 5%.
Tuesday, March 12, 2024 12:09 AM
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Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Good. Fuck Ukraine. Child Rapist Zelensky has outlived his usefulness. Soon he will have outlived his time on this planet.
Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:01 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by second: The funny thing about Trumptards getting into trouble but it is never their fault in their opinion.
Tuesday, March 12, 2024 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by second: The funny thing about Trumptards getting into trouble but it is never their fault in their opinion. Former Trump White House aide Peter Navarro has been ordered to report to a Miami prison on March 19 to begin serving a four month sentence for defying a subpoena from the Jan. 6 select committee. Navarro, who is urging a federal appeals court to stay the sentence while he attempts to overturn his conviction, faces the prospect of becoming the first top adviser to Donald Trump to serve jail time for an offense related to the effort to subvert the 2020 election. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/11/peter-navarro-prison-march-19-00146225 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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