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Hubbys diabetes is hard to control, and HE eats starches. Beans for bfast, oatmeal for snack (along with peanuts and raw veggies), meat and veggies for dinner and fruit and sugar-free pudding for dessert. So it's not like you have to go entirely without starches and sugars. Unfortunately, they have to be limited.

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I've got a lot to learn... Hopefully I get some guidance by the professionals going forward since it's been you who's given me the only guidance I've had so far. As far as I know, only one other living person in my bloodline has ever had diabetes, and I've only seen him in person maybe 5 times in my life. It's my Dad/Aunt's cousin. According to my aunt, he doesn't do any of the things he's supposed to be doing, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to tell me much. Usually my dad is real good about these things, but he's got no experience with diabetes.


I think it's the loss of water weight since I'm not drinking nearly as much as I used to and I make a REAL effort not to drink much when I get up at night, but after doing my business this morning I'm back down to 145.6. That's the first time since I started taking the pills that I've been under 146. And that's despite the fact I ate more brown rice last night than I've been eating.

I'd planned on maybe making a few chicken breasts too, but I fell asleep before I got around to doing it.



I almost wonder if being skinny with diabetes is going to be more difficult than if I were fat with diabetes.

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Oh, btw- ask Dr Endo about chromium and cinnamon. When I asked Dr Onco about supplements (I was taking several) she had a "latest research shows" answer for me (which I looked up on my favorite medical websites, info confirmed) and I gotta say, I was impressed as hell.

Some doctors are just generically anti-supplement of but give Dr Endo a chance to show you his stuff.

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I am glad you are taking SIGs advice and listening to doctors.

The last thing you want is to end up like my Blair. He wouldn't listen to me, his friends or doctors on handling his diet with diabetes. Oh, he took his meds but anything else nope. And this can kill you. He was on dialysis for the last few years of his life and you don't want that.

My dad's oldest sister controlled her diabetes through diet for many years before she had to go on the meds. Now, she was in her 70s I think when she was diagnosed. My dad's youngest brother was another one who wouldn't listen to anyone either.

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. . . it's going to be a bunch of stuff I don't particularly want to eat.

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I am glad you are taking SIGs advice and listening to doctors.

The last thing you want is to end up like my Blair. He wouldn't listen to me, his friends or doctors on handling his diet with diabetes. Oh, he took his meds but anything else nope. And this can kill you. He was on dialysis for the last few years of his life and you don't want that.

My dad's oldest sister controlled her diabetes through diet for many years before she had to go on the meds. Now, she was in her 70s I think when she was diagnosed. My dad's youngest brother was another one who wouldn't listen to anyone either.

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I'm sorry about your Blair, Brenda. :(

I can empathize. This is not going to be easy.

You'd think the idea of being able to eat as much as you want without gaining weight like you were 20 years old again would be great, but it's going to be a bunch of stuff I don't particularly want to eat. I'm sure it was very hard for him.

I'm going to try my best. It's all I can do.

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Thanks Jack. He was just set in his ways and because he had been a medical student before turning to law thought he could handle it without thinking.

Now, he was taking insulin injections twice a day but without watching his diet it didn't stop the effects diabetes can have on the body. His kidneys in particular but also his eyes were going.

It was hard but like I said stubborn. You need to be open to the doctors. And it will mean some major shifts in your diet as you are making. Always remember this is for your health just like when you went to the dentist and had all that work done.

You've made good changes since you found out and you are listening. Working on this all the time is all anyone can ask of you and all you can ask of yourself. It's chronic but it doesn't have to control you.

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Thanks Jack. He was just set in his ways and because he had been a medical student before turning to law thought he could handle it without thinking.

Now, he was taking insulin injections twice a day but without watching his diet it didn't stop the effects diabetes can have on the body. His kidneys in particular but also his eyes were going.

It was hard but like I said stubborn. You need to be open to the doctors. And it will mean some major shifts in your diet as you are making. Always remember this is for your health just like when you went to the dentist and had all that work done.

You've made good changes since you found out and you are listening. Working on this all the time is all anyone can ask of you and all you can ask of yourself. It's chronic but it doesn't have to control you.

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I sure hope not, Brenda.

It seemed like there was a return almost to normal nearly overnight after taking the pills, but something is still evidently quite wrong here.

That's not to say that there was no change. The weight has more or less stabilized and the thirst levels are mostly down from what they were, but we're not there yet.

I'm glad I'm going to the endocrinologist today, but I'm kind of worried they're going to find something else or that the diabetes is worse than we thought it was already.

I might not be eating a perfect diet for a diabetic just yet, but my diet is so much different than it was a week ago and I'm really struggling here. There's no way I could do any real physical job for any extended period of time right now, and some nights (like last night) the thirst comes back and I ended up drinking a lot of water and getting up a lot in the middle of the night. Yesterday was a pretty bad day.

I really thought based off of the first few days last week that I'd be going to this appointment with a lot more optimism than I will be.

Finger's crossed.

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I hope so too Jack.

Dealing with something this serious takes time and being it is essentially a metabolic disorder there will be set backs.

Your body has to adjust to this new regime. It got used to losing weight and not having enough fuel in it (sugar) to run.

You have to start thinking in the long term. What can you do day by day to make sure your blood sugar levels stay stable and you don't wind up at the doctor's more than you or the doctor think you should.

I think you will be okay at this doctor's appointment. To me as a lay person and only dealing with this second hand it seems like they have caught it in time. You are also young enough to make all the adjustments you need to. But still this is a huge lifestyle change and you have to give yourself time.

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I hope so too Jack.

Dealing with something this serious takes time and being it is essentially a metabolic disorder there will be set backs.

Your body has to adjust to this new regime. It got used to losing weight and not having enough fuel in it (sugar) to run.

You have to start thinking in the long term. What can you do day by day to make sure your blood sugar levels stay stable and you don't wind up at the doctor's more than you or the doctor think you should.

I think you will be okay at this doctor's appointment. To me as a lay person and only dealing with this second hand it seems like they have caught it in time. You are also young enough to make all the adjustments you need to. But still this is a huge lifestyle change and you have to give yourself time.

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Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.

Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.

Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).

Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.

Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat. If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.

It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.


He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.

I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.

He can't believe that the Immediate Care didn't already give me a monitor (or make me buy one) and that they didn't give me any sort of information on what I should be eating. I told him, to be fair, that the IC Dr. wanted me to see the Endocrinologist the next day or 2 and we couldn't get me in for an entire week, so I wasn't supposed to have gone an entire week without any guidance but that's just the way it worked out.

I guess I'll just read all of that, do what I need to do and see what happens next visit.

Finger's crossed.



ETA: There is just one sliver of a silver lining here though...

My pulse is still over 120 (I'm always over 90 even when I was healthy, so it's not AS bad as it sounds), but my blood pressure is better right now than it's ever been in my life as far as I know. I couldn't believe it when she said it was only 126/74. One week ago it was 147/96, and even when I was working overnights and in great shape I never had numbers lower than mid-130s over mid-80's.

So... At least there's that!





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Wow.

I think that insulin shot worked almost immediately.

Not that I've had any trouble shoveling in the extra food to try to maintain my weight in the last 3 or 4 weeks, but because of that I haven't had anything resembling a hunger pang for about a month.

I sure do right now.

I do believe it's time to eat a late lunch.



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Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.

Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.

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There isn't much testing that can be done. Three tests are available: the fingerstick test for your current blood glucose, and a test for something called A1C which gives a three-month glucose average (can be finger-stick in-office or laboratory test of a blood sample.) and a glucose tolerance test. At this point, all the A1C would tell you is that in the past three months your glucose was extraordinarily high. Not helpful except maybe as a benchmark.

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Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).

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Weight loss and thirst are symptoms of EXTREMELY HIGH blood sugar, so yours must have been extremely high.

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Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.

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Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat.

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If you're injecting insulin, adding meds, AND changing your diet I would be way more comfortable if you were measuring your blood sugar every day. You don't want it to go too low either! Low blood sugar can be deadly... I've called 911 on a co-worker who wasn't balancing her insulin with starch and she was slipping into a coma... high blood sugar only does it's damage over time.

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If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.

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I'd still be more comfortable with every day testing.

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It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.

He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.

I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.

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Diet IS important. Metformin is relatively cheap, but Jardiance (if that's what he added) and insulin are expen$$$ive. The more you can control you diabetes thru diet, the better off you'll be. Considering that your winter diet was so off-the-rails, it should be easy to improve!

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He can't believe that the Immediate Care didn't already give me a monitor (or make me buy one) and that they didn't give me any sort of information on what I should be eating. I told him, to be fair, that the IC Dr. wanted me to see the Endocrinologist the next day or 2 and we couldn't get me in for an entire week, so I wasn't supposed to have gone an entire week without any guidance but that's just the way it worked out.

I guess I'll just read all of that, do what I need to do and see what happens next visit.

Finger's crossed.

ETA: There is just one sliver of a silver lining here though...

My pulse is still over 120 (I'm always over 90 even when I was healthy, so it's not AS bad as it sounds), but my blood pressure is better right now than it's ever been in my life as far as I know. I couldn't believe it when she said it was only 126/74. One week ago it was 147/96, and even when I was working overnights and in great shape I never had numbers lower than mid-130s over mid-80's.

So... At least there's that!

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That's good news.
Yanno, it occurred to me that you might have been diabetic for quite a while without knowing it. And you might have been controlling it with your former diet, and plenty of exercise, without being aware.

Most people with diabetes don't know bc for the most part it doesn't have any symptoms until/unless a crisis hits.

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Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.

Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.

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There isn't much testing that can be done. Three tests are available: the fingerstick test for your current blood glucose, and a test for something called A1C which gives a three-month glucose average (can be finger-stick in-office or laboratory test of a blood sample.) and a glucose tolerance test. At this point, all the A1C would tell you is that in the past three months your glucose was extraordinarily high. Not helpful except maybe as a benchmark.

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I learned a bit about A1C today. But nah... I thought we'd be doing testing on any other possible hormone issues, or perhaps finding out if my pancreas is dead. Guess that's not a top priority right now.

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Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).

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Weight loss and thirst are symptoms of EXTREMELY HIGH blood sugar, so yours must have been extremely high.

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I told him that it was just over 1000mg/dL, but he told me I'd have been dead or in the ER if that was the case and he says that was from my urine and not my blood. I'll have to see, but I think I'm right about that. If I am, 400 is a lot better than 1000.

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Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.

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Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat.

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If you're injecting insulin, adding meds, AND changing your diet I would be way more comfortable if you were measuring your blood sugar every day. You don't want it to go too low either! Low blood sugar can be deadly... I've called 911 on a co-worker who wasn't balancing her insulin with starch and she was slipping into a coma... high blood sugar only does it's damage over time.

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You'd think the doctors would tell you these things.... Guess not.

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If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.

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I'd still be more comfortable with every day testing.

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It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.

He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.

I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.

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Diet IS important. Metformin is relatively cheap, but Jardiance (if that's what he added) and insulin are expen$$$ive. The more you can control you diabetes thru diet, the better off you'll be. Considering that your winter diet was so off-the-rails, it should be easy to improve!

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It's not Jardiance. I can't remember ATM, but it's a 5mg pill that starts with "G". It was cheaper than the Metformin.

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He can't believe that the Immediate Care didn't already give me a monitor (or make me buy one) and that they didn't give me any sort of information on what I should be eating. I told him, to be fair, that the IC Dr. wanted me to see the Endocrinologist the next day or 2 and we couldn't get me in for an entire week, so I wasn't supposed to have gone an entire week without any guidance but that's just the way it worked out.

I guess I'll just read all of that, do what I need to do and see what happens next visit.

Finger's crossed.

ETA: There is just one sliver of a silver lining here though...

My pulse is still over 120 (I'm always over 90 even when I was healthy, so it's not AS bad as it sounds), but my blood pressure is better right now than it's ever been in my life as far as I know. I couldn't believe it when she said it was only 126/74. One week ago it was 147/96, and even when I was working overnights and in great shape I never had numbers lower than mid-130s over mid-80's.

So... At least there's that!

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That's good news.
Yanno, it occurred to me that you might have been diabetic for quite a while without knowing it. And you might have been controlling it with your former diet, and plenty of exercise, without being aware.

Most people with diabetes don't know bc for the most part it doesn't have any symptoms until/unless a crisis hits.

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I'm pretty sure I've had it for a LONG time. Actually, I was probably in early stages of Pre Diabetes back in 2019 when I last saw the doctor and they warned me about the blood sugar. It was the one reading out of the limits, somewhere like 104mg/dL.

Remember when I'd talk about how sometimes when I'd try to go to sleep and I keep having a strange sensation in my chest that makes me shoot up out of bed and sometimes that can go on for hours before I can finally get to sleep? Well it was happening back then, and it's really ramped up since this weight loss problem. Particularly if I take a nap and eat before I try to sleep. In fact, it was just happening earlier when I tried to nap but ultimately gave up on it since everybody decided they wanted to call me today and not let me get a nap.



But yeah... I think I've nailed down that sensation to only when I eat high sugar foods (and/or foods that break down into high sugar). I've been having a bowl of cereal before my naps with my whole milk that I'm trying to get through (and not ever buy any of them again). It does seem to trigger that response nearly every time.

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I'll grab myself a between meal snack in over half an hour.

Be thankful you don't have a thyroid problem as I do because that walks hand in hand with hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). I have to basically graze all day to keep my blood sugar in check. Diet is my only control.

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I'll grab myself a between meal snack in over half an hour.

Be thankful you don't have a thyroid problem as I do because that walks hand in hand with hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). I have to basically graze all day to keep my blood sugar in check. Diet is my only control.

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Yikes. I feel for you. I've never really had to put much thought into what and when to eat before.

I think we've ruled out hyper/hypothyroidism, but with these doctors who the heck knows????



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Looking for a thyroid problem is easy. A simple blood test and since you were loosing weight if it showed up as out it would have been hyper. When your thyroid is slow which is my problem, I gained a bunch of weight. But once I was put on thyroid meds, the weight came off easily. The blood sugar problem showed up a while later and again was found through a blood test.

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It is a pain to be sure. I take my thyroid med on an empty stomach then half hour later my seizure meds and breakfast then I stop for coffee while I am out on errands. Then I stop for lunch before coming home. Then I have an afternoon snack. Then supper usually after 5pm. My night seizure meds, I take around 9:30pm then I have a snack around 11pm. That's my routine.I've been doing this routine over 20years.

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Looking for a thyroid problem is easy. A simple blood test and since you were loosing weight if it showed up as out it would have been hyper. When your thyroid is slow which is my problem, I gained a bunch of weight. But once I was put on thyroid meds, the weight came off easily. The blood sugar problem showed up a while later and again was found through a blood test.

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Oh... well if that's the case, I don't have it. They tested my blood for it and it was good. I didn't know if there were other places it could hide though. I'm a dummy.

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It is a pain to be sure. I take my thyroid med on an empty stomach then half hour later my seizure meds and breakfast then I stop for coffee while I am out on errands. Then I stop for lunch before coming home. Then I have an afternoon snack. Then supper usually after 5pm. My night seizure meds, I take around 9:30pm then I have a snack around 11pm. That's my routine. I've been doing this routine over 20years.

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The longer I stick around here it would seem the more we're walking in just about the same shoes more or less, huh?

I'm sure it will be a struggle at first, but things will work out fine. They almost always do once I screw my head on straight. This one is going to force the issue. It's probably what I needed, and definitely what I deserved.



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Altho I still sound froggy and my nose is still crazy-stuffed, I no longer feel tired and sick.

So it took me three days but the front yard has been weed whacked. Again. I hope the neighbors are less pissed at me.

I'm waiting for a landscaper to get back in touch with me, as I have no illusions about, or desire to, relandscape the entire front yard by myself! But landscapers, like handymen, seem to be scarcer than hen's teeth. I've had three come by. One gave me a quote and we scheduled the work but he eventually was a no-call no-show. One provided a quote, and I may go back to him even tho he was more expensive than the guy I picked. The last guy has yet to even give me a quote, even tho he was here a week ago. (I just texted him a reminder)

In the meantime I did some exploratory digging to find where the three roots are,and didn't find any on my planned "dry stream bed/swale" which is meant to carry water away from the downspout and let it infiltrate farther away from the house. And I just bought some mason's string, survey stakes and a line-level so I can re-grade the yard and make sure water will flow in the right direction.

The backyard is an explosion of flowers thanks to the abundant rainfall. The white Lady Banks rose is blooming in sprays of small white roses, the Joseph's Coat climbing rose is full of its roses of multiple colors (some are yellow, some are pink, some read and some orange. The bed below is filled with nasturtiums and borage that reseed themselves every year. Our neighbor's burgundy bougainvillea is scrambling over the wall, and in a shade corner pink azalea is covered in flowers.

I sent a picture to my sisters and nieces and they thought it was lovely.

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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.

It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.

It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.

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Could be the other way around: there is stuff you should not eat. From today's news: “Our study suggests poor carbohydrate quality is a leading driver of diet-attributable type 2 diabetes globally,” says senior author Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, a professor of nutrition at Tufts University and professor of medicine at Tufts School of Medicine in Boston, in a statement.

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147.2 after the morning ritual even after all the working out yesterday. Only got up to go to the bathroom once last night and only had a few sips of water when I did. Did not wake up thirsty this morning, but woke up because I had to go to the bathroom a second time. Got around 7.5 hours of sleep. One of the best nights of sleep in a long time.

Feeling pretty good. Not going to get excited about nothing this time though until the next Doctor visit.

So Dr. Endo was right. The 1000mg/dL reading was from the urinalysis and not the blood work. I was able to pull up my charts from last week and my glucose reading was 409mg/dL, which means it was only reduced a negligible 9mg/dL from the week prior. Initially I had thought the meds made me right the first time, but by the end of the week I knew something was still wrong.

I was kind of shocked that it only went down 9mg. I was keeping my weight stabilized and the thirst had gone down quite a bit, and I'd cut out the biggest offenders for sugar intake. But then I realized that even if SOME of the sugar I was eating was now being processed right with the first round of Metformin, the excess was just still being peed out (but just not as much) and the numbers were basically the same.

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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.

It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.

It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.

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Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.


Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.

Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.

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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.

It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.

It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.

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Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.


Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.

Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.

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I will say this be grateful people know and understand something about diabetes. As I said I have low blood sugar which is hypoglycemia and I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain it and why I usually turn down deserts and anything with too many carbs or watch the amount of sugar I eat.

My problem is the lesser known sibling of diabetes but I am still walking that line. Too much sugar and I feel sick and it takes a bit to clear out of my system.

You'll get used to it. It just takes a time. You can't rush your health.

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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.

It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.

It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.

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Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.


Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.

Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.

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I will say this be grateful people know and understand something about diabetes. As I said I have low blood sugar which is hypoglycemia and I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain it and why I usually turn down deserts and anything with too many carbs or watch the amount of sugar I eat.

My problem is the lesser known sibling of diabetes but I am still walking that line. Too much sugar and I feel sick and it takes a bit to clear out of my system.

You'll get used to it. It just takes a time. You can't rush your health.

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I used to have reactive hypoglycemia too. So uncomfortable! Shaky, cold, sweaty hands and anxiety and irritability. I could routinely trigger it by not eating for a long time and then eating something sweet. Stupid, huh?

When I ate something sugary my blood sugar would shoot up, then I'd overproduce insulin and it would fall like a rock to well below normal.

When blood sugar falls too LOW your adrenal glands then kick in to cause your liver to release sugar into the bloodstream.

Definitely an imperfect response! When our OA, who wasn't managing her insulin at all well, would occasionally slip below 50 blood sugar, she would get glassy-eyed and behave like an angry drunk.
I could never understand the attraction if an "adrenaline rush". I thought they were uncomfortable.

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147.2 after the morning ritual even after all the working out yesterday. Only got up to go to the bathroom once last night and only had a few sips of water when I did. Did not wake up thirsty this morning, but woke up because I had to go to the bathroom a second time. Got around 7.5 hours of sleep. One of the best nights of sleep in a long time.

Feeling pretty good. Not going to get excited about nothing this time though until the next Doctor visit.

So Dr. Endo was right. The 1000mg/dL reading was from the urinalysis and not the blood work. I was able to pull up my charts from last week and my glucose reading was 409mg/dL, which means it was only reduced a negligible 9mg/dL from the week prior. Initially I had thought the meds made me right the first time, but by the end of the week I knew something was still wrong.

I was kind of shocked that it only went down 9mg. I was keeping my weight stabilized and the thirst had gone down quite a bit, and I'd cut out the biggest offenders for sugar intake. But then I realized that even if SOME of the sugar I was eating was now being processed right with the first round of Metformin, the excess was just still being peed out (but just not as much) and the numbers were basically the same.

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Yeah. I think the max has to be somewhere around there and/or DEAD. Even though the 500mg 2x of Metformin wasn't enough to get this under control in the beginning, there had been so many other positive changes like the regular working out, cutting out the major offenders of sugar, the higher level of energy, the stabilized weight, the lowered thirst leading to easier nights of sleeping... To still be right at 400 a week later was discouraging to say the least, but I think that has to be right around the cap.

I mean, I was constantly thirsty before the meds, and I was peeing at least 2.5 gallons of liquid per day before the medication. I was peeing about half of that or less per day after the meds, so even though it was still at 400, I just wasn't craving water so I could pee out the excess beyond that. (At least in my ignorant POV, right?)

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It sounds like you're feeling better tho! I wonder if you were motivating yourself thru essential lack of energy by drinking lots of coffee?

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I bet I was. I did probably double my daily coffee intake the last 5-6 months or so from Summertime and before that.

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Speaking of coffee.... if you were nervous about what Dr Endo had to say, that could account for a higher than normal (for you) heart rate. But if it's CONSISTENTLY above 100 that's something a Dr would look into.

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I'm always nervous at the doctor. I don't know how much that accounts for anything, but I'm sure at least a couple of BPM.

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AFA that feeling in your chest that wakes you up... it could be some sort of heart arrhythmia that people often describe as a pounding, fluttering, or hollow feeling. That's a common side effect of too much coffee. If you've dialed back on the coffee those events might go away in a few weeks or a month.

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I don't think it's the coffee, just because I had this problem since my early 20's even when I wasn't drinking coffee. Back then, I blamed it on too much weed smoking, but since I haven't smoked weed in at least 8 years it can't be that either.

Well... I shouldn't say it's NOT the coffee and it WASN'T the weed back then. They could be contributing factors to the problem. Unfortunately, I've done searches online for the experience I feel when it's happening and I've never been able to come across anybody else explaining something that matches the sensation. Not even in medical forums where somebody else is trying to figure it out.

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I think so.

Thanks for the info you posted down below about your husband's diet. I don't think I could adhere to something so strict since I'm trying to gain weight, but I probably should consider putting oatmeal in my diet and maybe some cinnamon on top of it too.


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Hey SIX, this is a Cliff Notes version of meds for diabetes. It lists all the oral meds by class and a quick summary of how each class works, and major side effects. I think your "G" med is in there somewhere.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/in-dept
h/diabetes-treatment/art-20051004

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