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Monday, October 31, 2022 7:28 AM

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OPPS!

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A man is not deceived by others; he deceives himself. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

I'm positive that a Trumptard would misunderstand the quote and conclude that it is Democrats who are deluding themselves. I am not sorry to tell the Trumptards that their misunderstandings of reality are serious handicaps to living long and happily in America and staying in the middle class.

Robert Draper's book Weapons of Mass Delusion.

This article is adapted from Draper’s recent book.

To the chagrin of the House Freedom Caucus, President Trump vowed early on that he would “prime the pump” of the economy with big-ticket items like a sweeping infrastructure initiative and paid family leave (his daughter Ivanka’s pet project). But as Trump’s hold over the GOP base tightened — notably in direct proportion to the intensity of the attacks against him — nearly every elected Republican fell into line. By August of 2020, when the Republican National Committee declined to produce a new quadrennial party platform, conservative principles had manifestly become whatever Trump said they were.

But what were those principles, exactly? The reply I’ve heard over and over from rank-and-file Republicans is “America First” — a pithy slogan that falls well short of articulating what America’s role in the world should be, or how, for that matter, alienating our historical allies while embracing strongmen in Russia, North Korea, Turkey, Serbia, and Hungary serves America’s long-term national interests. Neither, for that matter, does it make clear exactly what kind of fiscal or social policy at home best characterizes putting America first.

Where the slogan falters as a policy platform, however, it succeeds mightily as both a shield and a sword. After all, to declare yourself country-first is to set yourself beyond reproach. Conversely, to place yourself in opposition to an “America First” conservative is to invite the belief that you may very well be “America Last.” In an earlier time, Republicans might have left it there. Today, however, GOP politicians and right-wing influencers from Trump on down helpfully connect the dots: To be “America Last” is to be unpatriotic, un-American, a Communist, traitorous, treasonous, an enemy within.

I heard Republicans express these sentiments about their political adversaries intermittently before the 2020 presidential election, but with vehement near universality after Trump lost. Just as those of us who were inside the Capitol on January 6 regard that day as an unforgettable cataclysm, so too do many millions of Republicans consider November 3, 2020, to have been the signal moment when evil actors thwarted the will of the people. In Mesa, Arizona, I stood in line for a conservative rally and found myself talking with a young man who described in elaborate detail the bipartisan nature of the election-stealing conspiracy, adding, “And the intelligence community had to be in there too.” In Manchester, New Hampshire, I heard a former professor and prominent election denier, David Clements, tell an audience that “the entire ‘deep state’ was in on it.” And in Perry, Georgia, I attended a Trump rally where the predominating slogan on shirts worn by attendees stated simply: TRUMP WON.

A couple of weeks ago, I received a phone call from a woman who until recently had served in a position of regional prominence in the Texas Republican Party. The woman had read something I’d written pertaining to the insurrection at the Capitol and found it to be thoroughly inaccurate. She wished to inform me that friends of hers had been there on January 6 and had seen nothing remotely riotous taking place. But, the woman added, whatever violence had occurred that day had been the work of antifa. She then said that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s videotaped phone conversations that afternoon, in which she implored governors to deploy National Guard troops to the Capitol, had been entirely staged. The woman closed by declaring that those who remained in federal custody for January 6–related offenses were being “politically persecuted.” When I asked her where she had gotten all this information, the woman replied that she had done her own research.

Throughout her monologue, the woman sounded completely sure of herself, unswerving in her belief that the violence I had witnessed firsthand on January 6 was entirely made up but was in any event understandable, given her certainty that the 2020 election was stolen. That self-certitude is what has stayed with me, more than the rambling illogic.

What happens to a political party when it becomes unhinged from objective truth?

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20221028220250/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2022/10/weapons-of-mass-delusion-book-excerpt-republican-party-trump/671907/

Download Robert Draper’s Weapons of Mass Delusion : When the Republican Party Lost Its Mind from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.nz/search.php?req=Weapons+of+Mass+Delusion

Also Robert Draper’s To Start a War - How the Bush Administration Took America into Iraq
https://libgen.unblockit.nz/search.php?req=Robert+Draper

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 31, 2022 7:43 AM

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
A man is not deceived by others; he deceives himself. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


How does one pretend to read so many books but never learn any lessons?

That is a good quote. Learn to apply it to yourself.

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Monday, October 31, 2022 9:25 AM

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OPPS!

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
A man is not deceived by others; he deceives himself. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


How does one pretend to read so many books but never learn any lessons?

That is a good quote. Learn to apply it to yourself.

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6ixStringJack, you proved my point by eliding a few sentences. A man is not deceived by others; he deceives himself. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe I'm positive that a Trumptard (meaning 6ixStringJack) would misunderstand the quote and conclude that it is Democrats who are deluding themselves. I am not sorry to tell the Trumptards that their misunderstandings of reality are serious handicaps to living long and happily in America and staying in the middle class.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 31, 2022 9:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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OPPS!

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
A man is not deceived by others; he deceives himself. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


How does one pretend to read so many books but never learn any lessons?

That is a good quote. Learn to apply it to yourself.

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6ixStringJack, you proved my point by eliding a few sentences. A man is not deceived by others; he deceives himself. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe I'm positive that a Trumptard (meaning 6ixStringJack) would misunderstand the quote and conclude that it is Democrats who are deluding themselves. I am not sorry to tell the Trumptards that their misunderstandings of reality are serious handicaps to living long and happily in America and staying in the middle class.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


You keep posting that same dumb shit and it has less meaning every time you do.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself, buddy. Otherwise the final years of your sad, pathetic, meaningless life are going to be very, very dark.

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Monday, October 31, 2022 10:46 AM

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You keep posting that same dumb shit and it has less meaning every time you do.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself, buddy. Otherwise the final years of your sad, pathetic, meaningless life are going to be very, very dark.
Are you still smoking, 6ix? Long ago, when I vaguely hoped those who voted for Nixon, Reagan, Bush II, or Trump were not automatons, I would read to my cousins the warnings on the pack of cigarettes they were smoking. Those warnings never stopped any of them. They all died young from precisely what the warnings said would happen to them (with two exceptions - a fatal drunken driving crash and a fatal gunshot.) Bad things happen to careless optimists while realists live long and prosper. Somehow, the careless never learn that.
https://goodthinkinc.com/success-do-pessimists-live-longer-a-study-fro
m-the-american-psychological-association-reveals-pessimists-outlive-optimists/

6ix, here is your warning: Cigarette Labeling and Health Warning Requirements
https://www.fda.gov/tobacco-products/labeling-and-warning-statements-t
obacco-products/cigarette-labeling-and-health-warning-requirements

6ix, let me repeat back to you what you wrote: "Otherwise the final years of your sad, pathetic, meaningless life are going to be very, very dark."

6ix, do you really believe you are exempt from the laws of nature? If you do, keep on smoking and never return to work. Nothing bad will happen, at least in the short term. For example, smoker and paid professional blowhard Rush Limbaugh lived to 70, so you also can, although the normal lifespan is 77.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 31, 2022 12:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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You keep posting that same dumb shit and it has less meaning every time you do.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself, buddy. Otherwise the final years of your sad, pathetic, meaningless life are going to be very, very dark.
Are you still smoking, 6ix? Long ago, when I vaguely hoped those who voted for Nixon, Reagan, Bush II, or Trump were not automatons, I would read to my cousins the warnings on the pack of cigarettes they were smoking. Those warnings never stopped any of them. They all died young from precisely what the warnings said would happen to them (with two exceptions - a fatal drunken driving crash and a fatal gunshot.) Bad things happen to careless optimists while realists live long and prosper. Somehow, the careless never learn that.
https://goodthinkinc.com/success-do-pessimists-live-longer-a-study-fro
m-the-american-psychological-association-reveals-pessimists-outlive-optimists/

6ix, here is your warning: Cigarette Labeling and Health Warning Requirements
https://www.fda.gov/tobacco-products/labeling-and-warning-statements-t
obacco-products/cigarette-labeling-and-health-warning-requirements

6ix, let me repeat back to you what you wrote: "Otherwise the final years of your sad, pathetic, meaningless life are going to be very, very dark."

6ix, do you really believe you are exempt from the laws of nature? If you do, keep on smoking and never return to work. Nothing bad will happen, at least in the short term. For example, smoker and paid professional blowhard Rush Limbaugh lived to 70, so you also can, although the normal lifespan is 77.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Why are you so obsessed with my smoking?

Quit eating everything that is within 100 feet of you and you won't be a worthless fat sack of shit like most Liberal Democrats are.

How's that diabetes treating you?

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Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:24 AM

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How's that diabetes treating you?
The White House @WhiteHouse tweeted:

Every single Congressional Republican voted against capping insulin costs at $35 a month for Medicare patients.

https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1580712335815020547

My East Texas relatives with diabetes will vote for Republicans because they despise "Critical Race Theory" and venerate the Confederacy teaching the inferiority of Blacks, which there are many in East Texas.

What Is Critical Race Theory, and Why Is It Under Attack?
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why
-is-it-under-attack/2021/05

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 4, 2022 7:45 AM

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There isn’t an "official" G.O.P. position on Social Security and Medicare. But the Republican Study Committee, the RSC, a caucus of House members that sets the party’s agenda, has released a fairly detailed set of proposals titled “Reclaiming Our Fiscal Future”. https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfiles/budget_fy22_final.pdf

The committee’s proposals center on raising the age at which Americans become eligible for Social Security and Medicare. Its plan calls for increasing the age at which workers can collect full Social Security benefits — which has already risen from 65 to 67 — to 70.

At the same time, the plan would raise the age at which Medicare kicks in to match the Social Security age. Given the Social Security proposal, this means delaying Medicare eligibility by five years, to the age of 70.

The report tries to justify these large benefit cuts — because that’s what they are — by pointing to the rise in life expectancy at age 65 since these programs were created. That is, it argues in effect that our major social benefit programs have become too generous because Americans are living longer.

While average life expectancy for seniors was rising before Covid struck, that rise was very unequal. Gains were much larger for Americans in the upper part of the income distribution — that is, the people who need Social Security and Medicare least.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/42920941?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

Gains in life expectancy have been much bigger among Americans with a college degree. In fact, life expectancy has actually declined among noncollege whites. And mortality has been diverging among regions, with life expectancy at 65 in some states, mostly red, significantly below the national average and in others, mostly blue, significantly above.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-18.pdf#page=7

So Republican plans to cut Medicare and Social Security would impose widespread hardship, with some of the worst impacts falling on red-state, noncollege whites — that is, the party’s most loyal base.

Why imagine that proposals to deny benefits by raising the eligibility age won’t provoke a backlash?

At least part of the answer is surely the expectation that the right-wing disinformation machine can obscure what the G.O.P. is up to. The Republican Study Committee has released a 153-page report calling, among other things, for denying full Social Security benefits to Americans under 70; that didn’t stop Sean Hannity from declaring the other day that “not a single Republican has ever said they want to take away your Social Security.”
https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfiles/budget_fy22_final.pdf

If Republicans win one or both houses of Congress, they’ll try to achieve their goals not though the normal legislative process but through blackmail. They’ll threaten to provoke a global financial crisis by refusing to raise the debt limit. If Democrats defang that threat, Republicans will try to get what they want by making America ungovernable in other ways. Will they succeed? Stay tuned.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 4, 2022 8:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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How's that diabetes treating you?
The White House @WhiteHouse tweeted:

Every single Congressional Republican voted against capping insulin costs at $35 a month for Medicare patients.

https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1580712335815020547

My East Texas relatives with diabetes will vote for Republicans because they despise "Critical Race Theory" and venerate the Confederacy teaching the inferiority of Blacks, which there are many in East Texas.

What Is Critical Race Theory, and Why Is It Under Attack?
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why
-is-it-under-attack/2021/05

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


This post made me giggle.

You are an idiot.

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Friday, November 4, 2022 9:08 AM

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This post made me giggle.

You are an idiot.
If you had known my Trumptard East Texas cousins, you won't giggle. Exactly like you, they were self-important, confident people who were absolutely certain of their superiority and knowledge. They all died young because of those same deeply held but false beliefs about themselves. I could see death coming for them, but they couldn't because of their psychology, the same as yours.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 4, 2022 9:14 AM

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This post made me giggle.

You are an idiot.
If you had known my Trumptard East Texas cousins, you won't giggle. Exactly like you, they were self-important, confident people who were absolutely certain of their superiority and knowledge. They all died young because of those same deeply held but false beliefs about themselves. I could see death coming for them, but they couldn't because of their psychology, the same as yours.


You're not a doctor.

You don't have any money either.

Take the trash out for your mom.

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Sunday, November 6, 2022 9:00 AM

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The catastrophic descent of the man who put his religious sway behind Donald Trump is explored in a new Hulu documentary

Jerry Falwell Jr once said there was nothing that then president Donald Trump could do that would endanger support from him or other Christian evangelical leaders. “When Jesus said we’re all sinners, he really meant all of us, everybody,” he told the Washington Post in January 2019.

Falwell knew whereof he spoke. A year and a half later, he would resign in disgrace from Liberty University, the evangelical college his father founded in Lynchburg, Virginia, after a series of personal scandals that would have made even Trump blush.

Among them was the allegation that Giancarlo Granda, a Miami pool boy, had a seven-year affair with Falwell’s wife, Becki, sometimes with Falwell looking on and masturbating during their sexual encounters. Granda also became entangled with the couple’s business affairs in a web that ultimately led them all to Trump.

The sorry and tawdry saga is told in God Forbid: The Sex Scandal That Brought Down a Dynasty, streaming on Hulu starting Tuesday. It is a “dynasty” because Falwell’s father, Jerry Falwell Sr, was a homophobic televangelist whose endorsement helped Ronald Reagan (a divorced former Hollywood actor) beat Jimmy Carter (a Baptist Sunday school teacher) in the 1980 presidential contest and launch a conservative project that culminated in the demise of the constitutional right to abortion.

“This documentary at its core is the story of a 50-year multigenerational evangelical dynasty and their outsized power in presidential politics and policy,” director Billy Corben says by phone from New York. “You have the man who is now the black sheep of the Falwell family – and excommunicated – who was able to deliver on the core political promise of his father and Reagan when the evangelicals first got involved in politics.”

The Falwells even went into business with Granda, backing a $4.7m youth hostel in Miami that he co-owned and helped manage. But then an old school friend of Granda, Jesus Fernandez Jr, and his father, Jesus Fernandez Sr, complained that Falwell had promised them a cut of the deal. They sued in court and allegedly threatened to release sexually explicit photos of Granda and Becki.

Panicked, Falwell turned to his acquaintance Michael Cohen, who, as Trump’s lawyer and fixer, had a knack for making problems go away. Sure enough, the photos were never published and the lawsuit was settled. Cohen later wrote in his memoir: “In good time, I would call in this favor, not for me, but for Trump, at a crucial moment on his journey to the presidency.”

More at https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/nov/01/god-forbid-sex-scandal-hu
lu-falwell-documentary

Download God Forbid (2022) from https://yts.mx/movies/god-forbid-2022

Reviews at https://www.metacritic.com/movie/god-forbid-the-sex-scandal-that-broug
ht-down-a-dynasty

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Sunday, November 6, 2022 11:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody cares.

Fuck Jerry Falwell.

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Sunday, November 6, 2022 11:29 AM

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Nobody cares.

Fuck Jerry Falwell.

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The movie shows how Jerry Falwell and his retarded son, Junior, have maneuvered, behind the scenes, GOP appointed Supreme Court Justices to make their religion the national religion and abortion the same as murder. The Falwell family isn't all the way to their ultimate goal, but after 50 years of effort they are asymptotically approaching it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 6, 2022 11:37 AM

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Nobody cares.

Fuck Jerry Falwell.

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The movie shows how Jerry Falwell and his retarded son, Junior, have maneuvered, behind the scenes, GOP appointed Supreme Court Justices to make their religion the national religion and abortion the same as murder. The Falwell family isn't all the way to their ultimate goal, but after 50 years of effort they are asymptotically approaching it.


The movie is fucking dumb. Organized religion is fucking dumb. Right-wing 80's religious Republicans and their censorship over Satanic Panic were fucking dumb. Left-wing 20's religious Democrats and their censorship over Woke Religion are fucking dumb.

You need to step outside of your fucking dumb Democrat echo chamber and recognize your party for what it is, otherwise there's no reason for anybody to have a discussion with you on any topic.

There's only one party. It's the party of money and we're all fucked.

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Monday, November 7, 2022 6:15 AM

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The movie is fucking dumb. Organized religion is fucking dumb. Right-wing 80's religious Republicans and their censorship over Satanic Panic were fucking dumb. Left-wing 20's religious Democrats and their censorship over Woke Religion are fucking dumb.

You need to step outside of your fucking dumb Democrat echo chamber and recognize your party for what it is, otherwise there's no reason for anybody to have a discussion with you on any topic.

There's only one party. It's the party of money and we're all fucked.

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The United States is a center-right country.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/388988/political-ideology-steady-conserva
tives-moderates-tie.aspx


Liberal are 25%.

Conservatives are well ahead at 36%.

But centrists are the biggest group at 37%.

For a centralist, it's always safer to vote for a conservative — even an extreme one, since they'll just keep things extremely the same. You can always change your mind later, after all. But if some extreme liberal manages to pass Medicare for All, you're stuck with it forever.

Democrats need to moderate if they want to win over centrist voters. And like it or not, there are things centrist voters don't like about liberals:

• They think we're too lax on crime.

• They think we're constantly making up stupid new rules.

• They think we want to let in too many illegal immigrants.

• They think we want to spend money endlessly and drive up the debt.

• They were appalled by the looting and rioting during the BLM protests of 2020 and think Democrats should have denounced it more vigorously.

• They think wokeness is ridiculous. They want us to stop talking like academics from another galaxy.

• They do not like being called racist.

Now, if Democrats end up doing poorly on Tuesday, the real reason is that the party in power always does poorly in midterm elections. But the secondary reason will indeed be that Democrats have spent the past few years moving to the left and allowing folks like Bernie and Elizabeth and Alexandria and Katie to become the best known faces of the party—all the while convincing centrists that good ol' Joe Biden is little more than a captive of these progressive do-gooders.

That's OK with me. In this household we all love Katie (Porter) and would vote for her multiple times if we could. But I'm not a centrist. I think Medicare for All is a great idea and I'm not opposed to funding social programs with higher tax rates on the rich. Democrats already have my vote.

But my center-right friends? They're kind of scared of us these days, and that's enough to keep them voting for Republicans even though they agree that Republicans have gone nuts. How hard is this to understand?

https://jabberwocking.com/seth-masket-is-bored-of-threadbare-political
-narratives-he-shouldnt-be/

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Monday, November 7, 2022 9:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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The movie is fucking dumb. Organized religion is fucking dumb. Right-wing 80's religious Republicans and their censorship over Satanic Panic were fucking dumb. Left-wing 20's religious Democrats and their censorship over Woke Religion are fucking dumb.

You need to step outside of your fucking dumb Democrat echo chamber and recognize your party for what it is, otherwise there's no reason for anybody to have a discussion with you on any topic.

There's only one party. It's the party of money and we're all fucked.

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The United States is a center-right country.

Liberal are 25%.

Conservatives are well ahead at 36%.

But centrists are the biggest group at 37%.

For a centralist, it's always safer to vote for a conservative — even an extreme one, since they'll just keep things extremely the same. You can always change your mind later, after all. But if some extreme liberal manages to pass Medicare for All, you're stuck with it forever.

Democrats need to moderate if they want to win over centrist voters. And like it or not, there are things centrist voters don't like about liberals:

• They think we're too lax on crime.

• They think we're constantly making up stupid new rules.

• They think we want to let in too many illegal immigrants.

• They think we want to spend money endlessly and drive up the debt.

• They were appalled by the looting and rioting during the BLM protests of 2020 and think Democrats should have denounced it more vigorously.

• They think wokeness is ridiculous. They want us to stop talking like academics from another galaxy.

• They do not like being called racist.

Now, if Democrats end up doing poorly on Tuesday, the real reason is that the party in power always does poorly in midterm elections. But the secondary reason will indeed be that Democrats have spent the past few years moving to the left and allowing folks like Bernie and Elizabeth and Alexandria and Katie to become the best known faces of the party—all the while convincing centrists that good ol' Joe Biden is little more than a captive of these progressive do-gooders.

That's OK with me. In this household we all love Katie (Porter) and would vote for her multiple times if we could. But I'm not a centrist. I think Medicare for All is a great idea and I'm not opposed to funding social programs with higher tax rates on the rich. Democrats already have my vote.

But my center-right friends? They're kind of scared of us these days, and that's enough to keep them voting for Republicans even though they agree that Republicans have gone nuts. How hard is this to understand?

https://jabberwocking.com/seth-masket-is-bored-of-threadbare-political
-narratives-he-shouldnt-be/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Thank you for posting another COPE article full of lies from a Far-Leftist retard on "jabberwocking". What's wrong dude? MotherGoose go to far right-wing for you? Or did they disappear? I don't see you posting their dumb shit anymore these days.

This dumb jagoff Seth isn't going to learn any lessons tomorrow. He's bullet pointed a good deal of them, but he supports at least some of them and the rest he's not taking seriously.


As for "centrists", he's just changing a definition to suit his dumb article.

Even according to NY Magazine and NYT just this week, swing voters make up as little as 3% of the electorate.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/11/swing-voters-are-angry-alienat
ed-and-very-powerful.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/01/opinion/swing-voters-midterms.html

If you were actually to see 37% of the electorate turn on you, every single race tomorrow would result in a Republican win.

It will be more than 3% tomorrow, but nowhere near 37%. Yet. Keep doing what you're doing though and wonder why things aren't working out for you next time either.


Fix your fucking party or watch it die.

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P.S. And on Wednesday look forward to articles from all the Lefty news sites proclaiming "Why oh why did the Latinos abandon us?" without ever even accidentally stumbling their way into figuring the answer to that question out.

My guess is that they won't even bring up the fact that a higher percentage of black people are going to vote not-Democrat tomorrow than in any previous election too. They're going to ignore that one all together.


Blame those white soccer moms. That's exactly what they're going to do.

See where it gets them.

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P.S. And on Wednesday look forward to articles from all the Lefty news sites proclaiming "Why oh why did the Latinos abandon us?" without ever even accidentally stumbling their way into figuring the answer to that question out.

My guess is that they won't even bring up the fact that a higher percentage of black people are going to vote not-Democrat tomorrow than in any previous election too. They're going to ignore that one all together.


Blame those white soccer moms. That's exactly what they're going to do.

See where it gets them.

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The Liberal Patriot seems to get it:

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/hispanic-voters-on-the-eve-of
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It is becoming clearer and clearer that Democrats have seriously erred by lumping Hispanics in with “people of color” and assuming they embraced a litany of liberal causes around race and other issues that are dear to the hearts of Democratic activists. This was a flawed assumption. In reality, Hispanic voters are overwhelmingly an upwardly mobile, patriotic population with practical and down to earth concerns focused on jobs, the economy, health care, effective schools and public safety.

...

As the Democrats sift through the wreckage of what seems likely to be a very poor election for them, they may want to cast around for a new theory of the case on how to grow their coalition. It should start by discarding the notion that Hispanics can be usefully thought of as people of color. They are instead normie voters through and through. That is the beginning of wisdom—and future electoral success.


Let's watch and laugh while nobody in the Democrat Party or the Legacy Media figures any of this out.

Although I do have to give them some credit for finally refraining from insulting the Latino population by calling them LatinX. I guess there's still some room for Democrats to learn from their mistakes after all.

You know that dumb cocksucker Seth from Jabberwocking, his wife, and his wife's black boyfriend still calls them LatinX.



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Thank you for posting another COPE article full of lies from a Far-Leftist retard on "jabberwocking". What's wrong dude? MotherGoose go to far right-wing for you? Or did they disappear? I don't see you posting their dumb shit anymore these days.

This dumb jagoff Seth isn't going to learn any lessons tomorrow. He's bullet pointed a good deal of them, but he supports at least some of them and the rest he's not taking seriously.


As for "centrists", he's just changing a definition to suit his dumb article.

Even according to NY Magazine and NYT just this week, swing voters make up as little as 3% of the electorate.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/11/swing-voters-are-angry-alienat
ed-and-very-powerful.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/01/opinion/swing-voters-midterms.html

If you were actually to see 37% of the electorate turn on you, every single race tomorrow would result in a Republican win.

It will be more than 3% tomorrow, but nowhere near 37%. Yet. Keep doing what you're doing though and wonder why things aren't working out for you next time either.


Fix your fucking party or watch it die.

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6ix, you are not even trying to understand before you start crying "liar! liar! liar!" Try to understand that the "Independents" have to temporarily, but only for one day at election time, sort themselves into either Democrats or Republicans or Irrelevances because only Dems and Reps get elected. Irrelevances are the dozens of third parties which elect nobody because the US does not have a Parliamentary system with many parties represented in Congress.

Party Affiliation

2022 Oct 3-20
Republican 33%
Independent 35% <-- Tomorrow this number will be close to zero, but only for one day.
Democrats 29%

2022 Jan 3-16
Independents 46%

2021 Jan 21-Feb 2
Independents 50%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

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It is a catastrophe that Liberal America has done such a poor job of protecting the nation against the extraordinary force that has been taking over the Republican Party (over the past several decades). And a compelling case can be made that the failure (of Liberal America its political arm, the Democratic Party) to better protect the nation has been substantially due to the inability of a largely secular liberal culture to perceive what it was up against, and thus to fight it appropriately.

Not seeing what it was up against, the Democrats failed to see that the usual American political battle over issues and interests had become something more fundamental, to a degree unprecedented in American history comprehensible in terms of “the Battle Between Good and Evil.” How could it be? There’s no such thing!

The blindness of the Democrats to the rise of “a Force of Evil” demonstrates not only the perceptiveness of that bit of baseball wisdom that says, “You can’t hit what you can’t see.” But it also shows that “You can’t see what you have no conceptual way of including in your picture of reality.”

(FDR – a liberal at a time when the old worldview held greater sway — seemed to understand Evil in the old way, and that helped him defeat Evil in World War II. Barack Obama, apparently lacking much of a concept of “Evil,” didn’t see it when it was coming at him. And as a result, ended up barricaded in the White House with his Presidency substantially stripped of its powers, except for the issuance of executive orders.

(And while this exceptionally decent and best-intentioned man was President, his failure to recognize the reality of a “Force of Evil” enabled such a Force to gain in power. Indeed, that failure inadvertently opened the door for what previous generations of Americans would have regarded as unthinkable to happen: i.e. for a human monster like Donald Trump to become President of the United States, and from there to “spread a pattern of brokenness” across multiple dimensions of American civilization and the wider world.)

(In this, Obama was emblematic of a widespread and long-standing inability in the Democratic Party of these times: even as the other side was being taken over by “a coherent Force that consistently makes things worse,” the Democrats continued to talk about their “friends across the aisle,” and sought to conduct “politics as usual.” And a compelling case can be made that a major reason for this was that there was no concept in their minds — no word in their language – for the kind of Force that had taken over the Republican Party.)

https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/09/the-discernible-reality-
of-a-force-of-evil.html

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Quote:
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It is a catastrophe that Liberal America has done such a poor job of protecting the nation against the extraordinary force that has been taking over the Republican Party (over the past several decades). And a compelling case can be made that the failure (of Liberal America its political arm, the Democratic Party) to better protect the nation has been substantially due to the inability of a largely secular liberal culture to perceive what it was up against, and thus to fight it appropriately.

Not seeing what it was up against, the Democrats failed to see that the usual American political battle over issues and interests had become something more fundamental, to a degree unprecedented in American history comprehensible in terms of “the Battle Between Good and Evil.” How could it be? There’s no such thing!

The blindness of the Democrats to the rise of “a Force of Evil” demonstrates not only the perceptiveness of that bit of baseball wisdom that says, “You can’t hit what you can’t see.” But it also shows that “You can’t see what you have no conceptual way of including in your picture of reality.”

(FDR – a liberal at a time when the old worldview held greater sway — seemed to understand Evil in the old way, and that helped him defeat Evil in World War II. Barack Obama, apparently lacking much of a concept of “Evil,” didn’t see it when it was coming at him. And as a result, ended up barricaded in the White House with his Presidency substantially stripped of its powers, except for the issuance of executive orders.

(And while this exceptionally decent and best-intentioned man was President, his failure to recognize the reality of a “Force of Evil” enabled such a Force to gain in power. Indeed, that failure inadvertently opened the door for what previous generations of Americans would have regarded as unthinkable to happen: i.e. for a human monster like Donald Trump to become President of the United States, and from there to “spread a pattern of brokenness” across multiple dimensions of American civilization and the wider world.)

(In this, Obama was emblematic of a widespread and long-standing inability in the Democratic Party of these times: even as the other side was being taken over by “a coherent Force that consistently makes things worse,” the Democrats continued to talk about their “friends across the aisle,” and sought to conduct “politics as usual.” And a compelling case can be made that a major reason for this was that there was no concept in their minds — no word in their language – for the kind of Force that had taken over the Republican Party.)

https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/09/the-discernible-reality-
of-a-force-of-evil.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


For supposedly not subscribing to any religion, you people sure sound like cultists.

Kool-Aid's served. Drink up!

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For supposedly not subscribing to any religion, you people sure sound like cultists.

Kool-Aid's served. Drink up!

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Kool-Aid must be a reference to the Reverend Jim Jones from the Jonestown Massacre. Jones, the maximum leader, got his people to drink the poisoned Kool-Aid and die for Jones. The Democrats never been the kind to elevate a Jim Jones who they loyally serve unto death. On the other hand, the GOP has Trump, who fits the Jim Jones template. Trump voters are well suited for the next Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, aka "Jonestown", aka "MAGA".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

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Quote:
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For supposedly not subscribing to any religion, you people sure sound like cultists.

Kool-Aid's served. Drink up!

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Kool-Aid must be a reference to the Reverend Jim Jones from the Jonestown Massacre. Jones, the maximum leader, got his people to drink the poisoned Kool-Aid and die for Jones. The Democrats never been the kind to elevate a Jim Jones who they loyally serve unto death. On the other hand, the GOP has Trump, who fits the Jim Jones template. Trump voters are well suited for the next Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, aka "Jonestown", aka "MAGA".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown


Wrong. You absolutely do follow a Leftist, Marxist dogma.

And the rest of the country is rejecting it. Full stop.

You're fucking done, idiot.

You should have called out dudes with mental illnesses dressed up like Disney Princesses letting 6 year old girls rub up on their junk while Antifa stood guard outside while you had the chance.

Woke is dead. Green is dead. The Democrat agenda is dead.


You might want to move out of My country tomorrow because you ain't going to like it here anymore.

Either that, or drink the fucking Kool-Aid already.



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Wrong. You absolutely do follow a Leftist, Marxist dogma.

And the rest of the country is rejecting it. Full stop.

You're fucking done, idiot.

You should have called out dudes with mental illnesses dressed up like Disney Princesses letting 6 year old girls rub up on their junk while Antifa stood guard outside while you had the chance.

Woke is dead. Green is dead. The Democrat agenda is dead.


You might want to move out of My country tomorrow because you ain't going to like it here anymore.

Either that, or drink the fucking Kool-Aid already.
6ix, you are not well, but there is a new Constitutional change in Nevada that makes it more difficult for the unwell to get their preferred mentally unwell politicians elected. What is it?

It is Nevada Question 3, Top-Five Ranked Choice Voting Initiative, which has become the Law by a vote of 52.35% to 47.65%
https://ballotpedia.org/Nevada_Question_3,_Top-Five_Ranked_Choice_Voti
ng_Initiative_(2022)

An article from last week: Can much of America’s current political dysfunction be traced back to one feature of our system: the partisan primary? And if so, what should be done about that?

Nevada voters will be tasked with assessing those questions when they go to the polls Tuesday, to vote on “Question 3” — a proposed overhaul of the state’s election system that would effectively kill the partisan primary (the elections in which Democratic and Republican voters choose their party nominees). https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/indy-explains-question-3-open
-primaries-and-ranked-choice-voting

Instead, Nevada would have a nonpartisan primary, from which the top five candidates of any party would emerge to the general election. The general election would then be conducted under ranked-choice voting (which lets people vote for multiple candidates for each office, ranked in order of their preference).

This is not just about election wonkery. The proposal’s backers say it could help fix American politics by weakening the forces of partisanship, polarization, and extremity. The two parties, they believe, have become captured by their bases’ most extreme elements, who can discipline anyone breaking from the party line through a primary challenge.

Indeed, when assessing how the Republican Party has moved into the hands of Donald Trump, it’s impossible to miss the importance of the primary. Some Trump critics have retired rather than face the primary electorate again: “The path that I would have to travel to get the Republican nomination is a path I’m not willing to take,” then-Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) said in 2017. Others have taken on Trump anyway and, with a few exceptions, have faced defeat. The most common strategy employed by GOP incumbents, though, was to become a strong Trump supporter to preemptively prevent losing renomination.

But while Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), who has defied Trump on several high-profile issues, did draw a right-wing challenger this year, she did not have to worry about getting primaried. In 2020, Alaska voters approved a similar reform to the one on the ballot in Nevada. That effectively guaranteed Murkowski would make it to the general election, rather than being taken down beforehand. Her case — and her GOP challenger Kelly Tshibaka’s — will go before the full Alaska electorate next week.

And yet progressives worried about the future of American democracy aren’t so enthusiastic about these reforms — in part because they’d likely weaken the left wing of the Democratic Party as well. Progressives have had their own success at taking down incumbents in primaries that elevated rising stars like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to Congress. They hope to punish Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) for opposing much of President Joe Biden’s agenda this year with a primary challenge in 2024. There is even speculation that fear of a primary challenge has made Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer focus hard on pleasing the left during Biden’s term.

If approved, these reforms probably wouldn’t live up to all their supporters’ ambitions — few reforms do. But they would present a clear path by which politicians of both parties disfavored by the party bases could make it to the general election. And for those who believe the rise of the Trump right presents a clear threat to US democracy, reforms that could weaken that movement’s power are probably worth at least some thought.

How voting would work in Nevada if Question 3 is approved

More at https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23412858/nevada-question-3-fin
al-five-voting-katherine-gehl

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I'm fine dude.

I can only imagine the meltdown you and Ted would be going through right now had the election turned the way it was predicted to.

I'll be out working on my porch. Nothing is any different today than it was yesterday.



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I'm fine dude.

I can only imagine the meltdown you and Ted would be going through right now had the election turned the way it was predicted to.

I'll be out working on my porch. Nothing is any different today than it was yesterday.
6ix, why is your new signature: "I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways." Did you have a mental breakdown, 6ix?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=20&tid=63463&mid=11643
60#1164360

The probability was Republicans win both chambers: 57%. That might be the final result, 6ix, but you couldn't wait before having another in a long series of tantrums or mental breakdowns. Your latest one is at http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65359

The other probability was that Democrats win the Senate
Republicans win the House: 27% probability
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/

Why Is America Always Divided 50–50?
by Annie Lowrey

Despite wrenching economic and political changes in the country, Democrats and Republicans keep finding themselves nearly tied in election after election.

November 8, 2022, 5:30 AM ET

Republicans and Democrats once again find themselves in a dead heat as they fight for control of the American government. The Senate majority hinges on a handful of seats. Republicans are likely to retake the House, but unlikely to eke out a strong majority. The generic ballot shows that 46 percent of Americans prefer the GOP and 45 percent the Democrats.

The two parties have been neck and neck since long before this midterm. Despite wild gyrations in the economy, the terrifying rise of antidemocratic politics on the right, and yawning policy differences between Democrats and Republicans, recent national electoral results keep coming in remarkably close, as if decided by a coin toss. A few decades ago, a Democratic president being 15 points underwater on his approval rating likely would have led to a Republican wave in the midterms. This year, political analysts expect more of a ripple.

Many statistics point to the same trend. The frequency with which the House and Senate flip between parties has increased; neither party builds much momentum for long. Democrats controlled the House from 1955 to 1995, for instance. Now the chamber is about to change hands for the fourth time in 15 years. The difference in the number of congressional seats held by the majority and minority parties has collapsed too. Between 1959 and 1995, the House majority was never less than 50 seats and repeatedly hit the triple digits. Today, the Democrats have only eight more seats than the Republicans. The popular-vote margin in American presidential elections has diminished too. In five of the past six contests, fewer than five percentage points separated the winner from the loser.

Every election is close. Every election feels consequential, because it is. And far-reaching policy outcomes are over and over again determined by just a few thousand votes in a handful of states.

In many ways, this is a baleful trend. Our coin-toss elections are not the result of having two parties competing for an engaged and persuadable electorate. They are at least in part a product of our political stasis and extreme polarization. They mean that when either party wins, it does so without much of a mandate. They also mean that neither party is ever forced to regroup and reform after a humiliating defeat. In the words of the Princeton political scientist Frances Lee, both parties are “insecure” in victory and hyper-engaged in a “perpetual campaign” against the other side.

There is no simple explanation for why this is happening. I had at first figured it had something to do with game theory. You have two parties. Each has deep resources and strong incentives to win over and thus reduce the number of middle-of-the road voters. The parties zig, they zag, they revise their arguments. They both get better at winning elections, beefing up their use of voter data, opposition research, on-the-ground organizing, and gerrymandering. In time, each gets good enough that the contests start to come out 50–50.

That hypothesis might be partly true, John Sides, a political scientist at Vanderbilt University, told me. But he pointed to historical factors that, in his view, offer the strongest explanation for today’s political environment. During the Great Depression, the Democrats became a nearly unshakable majority party in Congress, buttressed by the votes of white southerners and New Deal supporters across the country. But in the 1960s, white southerners began migrating to the Republican side in a revolt against national Democrats, who backed civil-rights legislation and redistributive policies that aided Black Americans. As the political saliency of the New Deal faded, the parties became more competitive and their voter bases more equal. “The thing that made us so unusual for so long was the South,” Sides said. “We had a one-party state within the country.” Its disappearance paved the way for our 50–50 electorate and pendulum-swinging government.

Indeed, as Lee describes in her excellent book Insecure Majorities, the Republicans became a “full-fledged, politically viable national alternative to the Democrats” only in 1980, when Ronald Reagan won the presidency on a low-tax, small-government platform. The same year, Republicans took the Senate for the first time in a quarter century. And in 1994, they broke the Democratic grip on the House.

A related explanation for today’s instability has to do with the growing polarization of the two parties. In the early half of the 20th century, Democrats and Republicans had considerable policy overlap, and legislators worked across the aisle frequently. Since then, their policy differences have become sharply pronounced. Voters changed too: They quit splitting their tickets and became more reliable supporters of one side or the other. They “sorted” along political lines, becoming more likely to live around people who vote like them, as well as becoming more ardent ideologically, with fewer cross-cutting social ties, a phenomenon described by the political scientist Lilliana Mason. They also became more averse to partisans of the other side. That polarization has contributed to our close elections: When almost all voters have already made up their mind, there just aren’t that many people for politicians to persuade.

As Lee shows in Insecure Majorities, such close contests and frequent changeovers in power are a cause of partisan strife. In recent decades, “neither party perceives itself as a permanent majority or permanent minority,” she writes. “This shift altered members’ partisan incentives and strategic choices in ways that help drive the sharp and contentious partisanship that is characteristic of contemporary American politics.” These days, both Republican and Democratic leaders have less incentive to cooperate across the aisle. Why give the other side a legislative victory if you are so close to taking back the House or winning the Senate?

The competitiveness of American elections also seems to have made the government less responsive to the wants and needs of voters—not more so, as you might normally expect. “In the current context, you have party control that hinges on small margins of the vote share in a small number of races,” Sides said. “A narrow shift creates a vast difference in terms of how the country is governed. Is that really what the election mandate was? Is that what voters want? I’m not so sure.”

Never losing by a significant margin or for a long period of time seems to have been bad for the parties themselves as well. Being banished to electoral purgatory every now and then encourages political groups to reform and change. It encourages them to think about their long-term value proposition, not just how to gain a few thousand more votes in Wisconsin. It forces them to adapt to the needs of average voters. Our political climate has diminished that constructive pressure for both sides. (Consider how many times Republicans have ignored their own advice about moderating and being friendlier to voters of color, opting instead to run some version of the “southern strategy” over and over.)

Yet for both sides, being out of power for any considerable amount of time feels like an existential threat. And for both sides, holding power for any considerable amount of time feels like an impossibility. Whatever happens this election, the next is likely to undo some of it—giving voters a greater sense of insecurity and urgency, with so much on the line each and every time.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221109090344/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2022/11/us-elections-tight-race-democrat-republican-partisanship/672022/

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Your Democratic Votes

As bad as Fetterman seems perhaps it would have been worse if Turkeyman Oz won



and at least some got counts and it wasn't a complete shitshow like Arizona




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Your Democratic Votes

and at least some got counts and it wasn't a complete shitshow like Arizona
Why independent voters broke for Democrats in the midterms

The Wall Street Journal reports:

Lisa Ghelfi, a 58-year-old registered Republican in Arizona, voted for Donald Trump for president two years ago but has grown tired of his election-fraud claims. It is the main reason she voted for Democrats for governor, senator, secretary of state and attorney general this fall and plans to change her registration to independent.

“Not allowing the election to be settled, it’s very divisive,” Ms. Ghelfi, a semiretired attorney from Paradise Valley, said of the 2020 race. “I think the election spoke for itself.” She said she voted for Republicans down-ballot who weren’t as vocal about election fraud or as closely tied to Mr. Trump, yet couldn’t support Arizona’s four major Republican candidates because they echoed Mr. Trump’s false claims.

Republicans succeeded in one of their top goals this year: They brought more of their party’s voters to the polls than did Democrats. But in the course of energizing their core voters, Republicans in many states lost voters in the political center—both independents and many Republicans who are uneasy with elements of the party’s focus under Mr. Trump.

Control of the House and Senate, which had seemed poised to land with the Republican Party, is coming down to a handful of races that so far are too close to call, though the GOP remains on track to winning a narrow majority in the House. Republicans have won nearly 5.5 million more votes in House races than have Democrats, a tally by the nonpartisan Cook Political Report finds, as many voters were motivated by anxiety over high inflation and a low opinion of President Biden’s response.

At the same time, Republican analysts said their unexpectedly weak showing in the election indicated that they had failed to press hard enough on those issues. In Michigan, the Republican Party’s state committee said a failure to talk to voters in the political center was a central reason that Tudor Dixon, the party’s Trump-endorsed nominee for governor, was crushed in a 10 percentage point defeat by Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

Continue reading… at https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-independent-voters-broke-for-democrat
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They didn't.

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6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.


Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of.

Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life.

All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now.

The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh?

My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out.

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6ix, you are insane.


No. I'm not.

You didn't notice that yet, did you?

Democrat Popular vote (2022): 47,301,792 - 46.7%
Republican Popular vote (2022): 52,084,705 - 51.4%
Republicans (2022) - +4.7

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2022/house/

Republicans managed so far to have nearly 5 Million more votes than Democrats did in the popular vote. Two years ago, Democrats had 5 Million more votes than Republicans in California alone.

California Democrat votes (2020): 11,110,250 63.5% 34.3%
California Republican votes (2020): 6,006,429
California Democrats (2020) - 29.2%

https://www.cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker

You guys cheated. Twice now.

How many times do you suppose you're going to get away with that?

You are going to find out.


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Nobody Cares About Biden’s Energy Policy. Great!

The president’s plan shows that a carrots-not-sticks climate strategy is a winner.
Nov. 15, 2022, 3:03 p.m. ET

By Paul Krugman

Democrats had far better midterms this year than they did in 2010. Still, with Republicans on the cusp of winning narrow control of the House, there’s unlikely to be major legislation passed over the next two years. So as was the case for President Barack Obama, President Biden’s legislative high-water mark will probably be a bill he got passed in his first two years. In that sense, the Inflation Reduction Act — which, despite its name, is mainly a climate and health care bill — is this administration’s equivalent of Obamacare.

Unlike Obamacare, however, the I.R.A. was barely mentioned on the campaign trail. In other words, it was a huge political success. And this success vindicated what we might call the new climate policy, which emphasizes carrots rather than sticks.

How so? Well, do you remember when progressives pushed for a Green New Deal? Conservatives bashed their ideas, portraying them as a plot to take away Americans’ pickup trucks and force them to eat soy burgers. Even centrist pundits now tend to talk about the Green New Deal as a leftist fantasy that never had a chance of happening.

But the truth is that Biden has basically passed a Green New Deal. True, he didn’t get the large-scale spending on families, especially children, that was in his original Build Back Better act. But he got most of the climate policy he wanted: Modelers have estimated that the Inflation Reduction Act will achieve about 80 percent of the greenhouse gas reductions that would have been achieved under Build Back Better.

And nobody noticed. Success!

To understand the nature of that success, we need to talk about a long-running debate over how to address climate change.

Pollution in general, including greenhouse gas emissions, is a prime example of what economists call a “negative externality” — a cost that individuals and companies impose on other people without paying the price themselves. When an economic activity like burning coal to produce electricity imposes negative externalities, people tend to do too much of it.

The textbook answer to pollution is for governments to impose a price on polluters, which can be achieved either by imposing a tax on emissions or by establishing a “cap and trade” system in which the private sector can buy or sell a limited number of emissions permits. We actually have a cap and trade system for emissions of sulfur dioxide, which helped contain the threat of acid rain; the House of Representatives passed cap and trade legislation for greenhouse gases back in 2009, only to see the bill die in the Senate. And many economists, including Janet Yellen, the Treasury secretary, have endorsed the idea of a carbon tax as the principal response to climate change.

But the economic case for making a carbon tax the centerpiece of climate policy is dubious, and the politics of tax-centered climate policy are hopeless.

On the economics: The world has changed immensely since the cap and trade bill failed in 2009, mainly thanks to incredible technological progress in renewable energy. Here are changes in the “levelized cost of energy” between 2009 and 2019, from Max Roser of Our World in Data:

The plunging costs of solar and wind power have greatly simplified the problem of getting to a low-emission economy. At this point it no longer appears that drastic reductions in emissions will require major changes in the way we live, which would be hard to achieve without something like a carbon tax. Instead, it’s mainly a matter of electrifying everything we can and generating that electricity from renewables, which means that green energy subsidies, as opposed to taxes, can do the job.

In fact, a carbon tax by itself would be the wrong policy even on purely economic grounds. While pollution is a negative externality, green energy appears to be characterized by positive externalities: an individual’s choice to drive an electric car or a power company’s decision to invest in renewables conveys benefits to others.

Partly, this reflects what appear to be steep learning curves for new energy technologies: The more people make use of these technologies, the better we get at them and the easier they will be to adopt.

And partly it reflects the fact that these technologies become more usable when many people use them: Electric cars become more attractive when there are many charging stations, which will materialize if many people drive electric cars.

There’s still a case for carbon taxes as part of a climate strategy, but there’s also a case to be made that we can achieve what we need to achieve without such taxes, simply by subsidizing green energy. In other words, by using carrots rather than sticks.

And that’s a good thing, because the politics of carbon taxes are poisonous. It’s not just an American thing, although we may be exceptional in the way energy policy gets caught up in the culture war — yes, right-wingers denounce concerns about the climate as “wokeness.” Even in France, energy taxes had to be canceled after violent protests from the “yellow vest” movement.

The politics of subsidies for green energy, however, are arguably much more positive. Instead of making it more expensive for people to do what they were doing before, the government is making it cheaper for them to do different things. And it doesn’t hurt that the administration can then boast about the jobs its strategy is creating in everything from battery manufacturing to solar-panel installation.

The job-creating effects of the Inflation Reduction Act probably didn’t have much effect in the midterms, although there has been a steady drumbeat of news reports about plans to open new factories in response. Maybe these benefits will matter more in 2024. For now, however, the point is that the Biden administration pushed through enormously consequential climate legislation without, as far as anyone can tell, paying any political price. That in itself is a major vindication of its strategy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/15/opinion/biden-climate-change-ira.ht
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How one man quietly stitched the American safety net over four decades

Robert Greenstein isn’t a household name. But his career lobbying for the poor has changed the lives of millions of Americans.

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23383703/robert-greenstein-center-bu
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Nobody Cares About Biden’s Energy Policy. Great!

The president’s plan shows that a carrots-not-sticks climate strategy is a winner.


Sticks are coming. Check your mail box.

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In the history of America, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who was worse at their job than Paul Krugman.

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In the history of America, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who was worse at their job than Paul Krugman.
What’s the point of reinventing banks, only worse? by Paul Krugman

The 2008 white paper that started the cryptocurrency movement, published under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, was titled “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System.” That is, the whole idea was that electronic tokens whose validity was established with techniques borrowed from cryptography would make it possible for people to bypass financial institutions. If you wanted to transfer funds to someone else, you could simply send them a number — a key — with no need to trust Citigroup or Santander to record the transaction.

It has never been clear exactly why anyone other than criminals would want to do this. Although crypto advocates often talk about the 2008 financial crisis as a motivation for their work, that crisis never impaired the payments system — the ability of individuals to transfer funds via banks. Still, the idea of a monetary system that wouldn’t require trust in financial institutions was interesting and arguably worth trying.

After 14 years, however, cryptocurrencies have made almost no inroads into the traditional role of money. They’re too awkward to use for ordinary transactions. Their values are too unstable. In fact, relatively few investors can even be bothered to hold their crypto keys themselves — too much risk of losing them by, say, putting them on a hard drive that ends up in a landfill.

Instead, cryptocurrencies are largely purchased through exchanges like Coinbase and, yes, FTX, which take your money and hold crypto tokens in your name.

These exchanges are — wait for it — financial institutions, whose ability to attract investors depends on — wait for it again — those investors’ trust. In other words, the crypto ecosystem has basically evolved into exactly what it was supposed to replace: a system of financial intermediaries whose ability to operate depends on their perceived trustworthiness.

In which case, what is the point? Why should an industry that at best has simply reinvented conventional banking have any fundamental value?

Furthermore, trust in conventional financial institutions rests in part on validation by Uncle Sam: The government supervises banks, regulates the risks they can take and guarantees many deposits, while crypto operates largely without oversight. So investors must rely on the honesty and competence of entrepreneurs; when they offer exceptionally good deals, investors must believe not just in their competence but in their genius.

How has that been working out?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/17/opinion/crypto-banks-regulation-ftx
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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 9:27 AM

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In the history of America, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who was worse at their job than Paul Krugman.
What’s the point of reinventing banks, only worse? by Paul Krugman

The 2008 white paper that started the cryptocurrency movement, published under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, was titled “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System.” That is, the whole idea was that electronic tokens whose validity was established with techniques borrowed from cryptography would make it possible for people to bypass financial institutions. If you wanted to transfer funds to someone else, you could simply send them a number — a key — with no need to trust Citigroup or Santander to record the transaction.

It has never been clear exactly why anyone other than criminals would want to do this. Although crypto advocates often talk about the 2008 financial crisis as a motivation for their work, that crisis never impaired the payments system — the ability of individuals to transfer funds via banks. Still, the idea of a monetary system that wouldn’t require trust in financial institutions was interesting and arguably worth trying.

After 14 years, however, cryptocurrencies have made almost no inroads into the traditional role of money. They’re too awkward to use for ordinary transactions. Their values are too unstable. In fact, relatively few investors can even be bothered to hold their crypto keys themselves — too much risk of losing them by, say, putting them on a hard drive that ends up in a landfill.

Instead, cryptocurrencies are largely purchased through exchanges like Coinbase and, yes, FTX, which take your money and hold crypto tokens in your name.

These exchanges are — wait for it — financial institutions, whose ability to attract investors depends on — wait for it again — those investors’ trust. In other words, the crypto ecosystem has basically evolved into exactly what it was supposed to replace: a system of financial intermediaries whose ability to operate depends on their perceived trustworthiness.

In which case, what is the point? Why should an industry that at best has simply reinvented conventional banking have any fundamental value?

Furthermore, trust in conventional financial institutions rests in part on validation by Uncle Sam: The government supervises banks, regulates the risks they can take and guarantees many deposits, while crypto operates largely without oversight. So investors must rely on the honesty and competence of entrepreneurs; when they offer exceptionally good deals, investors must believe not just in their competence but in their genius.

How has that been working out?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/17/opinion/crypto-banks-regulation-ftx
.html

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Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

Hopefully Krugman remembers he wrote this when Biden tries turning USD into Cryptocurrency. I mean, he's already started that process, but I don't see Krugman mentioning that here.

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Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

Hopefully Krugman remembers he wrote this when Biden tries turning USD into Cryptocurrency. I mean, he's already started that process, but I don't see Krugman mentioning that here.
Krugman didn't mention "that process" because the dollar is NOT being turned slowly or secretly into cryptocurrency. Do you realize how much electricity crypto wastes a year to accomplish nothing? Bitcoin, the world’s largest cryptocurrency, currently consumes an estimated 150 terawatt-hours of electricity annually — more than the entire country of Argentina, population 45 million. Producing that energy emits some 65 megatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually — comparable to the emissions of Greece.
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/05/04/cryptocurrency-energy/

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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 12:49 PM

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Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

Hopefully Krugman remembers he wrote this when Biden tries turning USD into Cryptocurrency. I mean, he's already started that process, but I don't see Krugman mentioning that here.
Krugman didn't mention "that process" because the dollar is NOT being turned slowly or secretly into cryptocurrency. Do you realize how much electricity crypto wastes a year to accomplish nothing? Bitcoin, the world’s largest cryptocurrency, currently consumes an estimated 150 terawatt-hours of electricity annually — more than the entire country of Argentina, population 45 million. Producing that energy emits some 65 megatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually — comparable to the emissions of Greece.
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/05/04/cryptocurrency-energy/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Another good story ruined by a press release.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/
09/executive-order-on-ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets/

Archive: https://archive.ph/G7aAo

Forward that on to the Krugman for me, will you?

Maybe you should CC Greta Thunberg on that too... assuming she's still alive.

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Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

Hopefully Krugman remembers he wrote this when Biden tries turning USD into Cryptocurrency. I mean, he's already started that process, but I don't see Krugman mentioning that here.
Krugman didn't mention "that process" because the dollar is NOT being turned slowly or secretly into cryptocurrency. Do you realize how much electricity crypto wastes a year to accomplish nothing? Bitcoin, the world’s largest cryptocurrency, currently consumes an estimated 150 terawatt-hours of electricity annually — more than the entire country of Argentina, population 45 million. Producing that energy emits some 65 megatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually — comparable to the emissions of Greece.
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/05/04/cryptocurrency-energy/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Another good story ruined by a press release.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/
09/executive-order-on-ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets/

Archive: https://archive.ph/G7aAo

Forward that on to the Krugman for me, will you?

Maybe you should CC Greta Thunberg on that too... assuming she's still alive.

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The Federal government wants to start regulating gambling on cryptocurrency as it regulates internet betting. Did the Federal Reserve Bank become the nation's bookie? No. Neither will it be in the cryptocurrency business.

In the 1990s, when the World Wide Web was growing rapidly in popularity, online gambling appeared to represent an end-run around government control and prohibition. Confronted with this blatant challenge to American policies, the Department of Justice and Congress explored the applicability of current law and the desirability of new regulation for online gambling.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/gambling

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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:33 PM

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Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

Hopefully Krugman remembers he wrote this when Biden tries turning USD into Cryptocurrency. I mean, he's already started that process, but I don't see Krugman mentioning that here.
Krugman didn't mention "that process" because the dollar is NOT being turned slowly or secretly into cryptocurrency. Do you realize how much electricity crypto wastes a year to accomplish nothing? Bitcoin, the world’s largest cryptocurrency, currently consumes an estimated 150 terawatt-hours of electricity annually — more than the entire country of Argentina, population 45 million. Producing that energy emits some 65 megatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually — comparable to the emissions of Greece.
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/05/04/cryptocurrency-energy/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Another good story ruined by a press release.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/
09/executive-order-on-ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets/

Archive: https://archive.ph/G7aAo

Forward that on to the Krugman for me, will you?

Maybe you should CC Greta Thunberg on that too... assuming she's still alive.

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The Federal government wants to start regulating gambling on cryptocurrency as it regulates internet betting. Did the Federal Reserve Bank become the nation's bookie? No. Neither will it be in the cryptocurrency business.

In the 1990s, when the World Wide Web was growing rapidly in popularity, online gambling appeared to represent an end-run around government control and prohibition. Confronted with this blatant challenge to American policies, the Department of Justice and Congress explored the applicability of current law and the desirability of new regulation for online gambling.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/gambling

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


FAIL

Read it again. You're missing the good part.

Maybe get somebody qualified to read it to you.

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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:58 PM

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There are three parts to crypto currency - coin creation (by "mining"), coin transfer by block chain, and coin valuation/exchange into recognized fiat currency. Its posssible to adopt one aspect - block chain- without adopting everything.

The correct name for what the banks are exploring is called Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) and it's a real thing.

New York Fed Partners with US Banks on 3-Month Digital Dollar Project
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/new-york-fed-partners-w
ith-us-banks-on-3-month-digital-dollar-project/

The NY Fed calls this "programmable currency" CBDC. It's not clear to me how this is different from what happens already, since most balances, purchases, and interbank exchanges are digital anyway, except by a different platform (block chain v ACH or SWIFT transfers).

Maybe the differences are

Banks - which charge fees for credit card purchases and money transfers will no longer be able to collect those fees,
Transfers will be potentialky faster, and
Unlike SWIFT and ACH (automated clearing house) which are essentially neutral platforms, the block chain software can be specifically tailored to block or delay certain exchanges... for example, gun sales; transfers to specific (foreign?) banks; purchases of gasoline or food in times of shortage; or block a specific person out altogether.

I noticed that the 800-lb gorilla in the room -JPMC- is not participating.

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So after lying for almost 3 years...the Hunter Biden Laptop became real all of a sudden?



Media Pretends They Didn’t Lie About It






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And the two dumb Democrat shits left on this board either have nothing to say about it or scream TRUMP!!!!

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And the two dumb Democrat shits left on this board either have nothing to say about it or scream TRUMP!!!!

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You are not the only crazy person I know, but you are the most articulate. Today you wrote:
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It's even more than that though.

We in America are beneficiaries to the fact that the REAL PTB based their whole empire off of the USD.

Now unless they have a particular gripe against the US that they find so irredeemably egregious that they have no choice but to switch currency, think of the logistics involved in that. TPTB wouldn't want to make a move so drastic and with such unpredictable results unless they knew full well that they had complete control over the outcome from the get go. And as you've illustrated above, any attempt at middle-management "leaders" trying to do so on their own ends up with their cities being turned to rubble.

People the world round can say all they want about the weakness of the US Military, but all that is is talk. Our military dwarfs the rest of the world's military and gets larger and larger cash infusions nearly every single year, and despite that fact it does practically nothing but "exist".

Incidentally... Screw NATO. If it weren't for the fact that it would trigger WWIII, the US Military could invade Russia today and turn Moscow to rubble by the end of the weekend if it were directed to. But TPTB have no interest in owning a world that is on fire.

Also incidentally... I believe this to be the big push against Russia right now when China clearly is the world's largest power guilty of the most egregious crimes against humanity and its own citizenry. Russia is a threat to nobody. But Russia also isn't easily bought off by TPTB like the US Government or fully on board with enslaving its people like China is.

Maybe this is the big push toward digital currency? Maybe this is why we currently have a white house press release hinting at the US switching toward a digital currency instead of cash?

If TPTB created digital currency and weened the world off of the USD and all other international currencies over the course of say, a few decades, they'd have complete control over it, and in turn practically over everyone on the planet. Nobody would be able to fight against it. Every single transaction you ever make will be logged. Do you like eating food? Well then, hop in the machine, Cog, and give thanks to your overlord for allowing you this opportunity. If you ever step out of line you will starve to death. Anybody found guilty of trying to feed, clothe or house somebody cut off from the digital currency will be found guilty of treason.

Hell... they could even make your currency have an expiration date so whatever you don't spend at the end of the month is lost and you can never save for a better future, both ensuring the "consumerism" economy chugs along until the sun explodes and essentially enslaving you to the whims of the system from the moment you're born until the day you die.

That's the only outcome I'm concerned about. Worrying about China and the Middle East making their own little currency to fight the Big Bad Dollar is cute.

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6ix, if you believe what you wrote, it is time for you to sell your house for gold and vanish before the government enslaves you, taking everything from you with taxes. 6ix, don't wait too long. Fauci might inject vaccine into you:
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Fauci pleads with Americans to get COVID shot in final White House briefing
Fuck you Fauci. You're going to prison. You'd better go back to hiding.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 11:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And the two dumb Democrat shits left on this board either have nothing to say about it or scream TRUMP!!!!

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You are not the only crazy person I know, but you are the most articulate. Today you wrote:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's even more than that though.

We in America are beneficiaries to the fact that the REAL PTB based their whole empire off of the USD.

Now unless they have a particular gripe against the US that they find so irredeemably egregious that they have no choice but to switch currency, think of the logistics involved in that. TPTB wouldn't want to make a move so drastic and with such unpredictable results unless they knew full well that they had complete control over the outcome from the get go. And as you've illustrated above, any attempt at middle-management "leaders" trying to do so on their own ends up with their cities being turned to rubble.

People the world round can say all they want about the weakness of the US Military, but all that is is talk. Our military dwarfs the rest of the world's military and gets larger and larger cash infusions nearly every single year, and despite that fact it does practically nothing but "exist".

Incidentally... Screw NATO. If it weren't for the fact that it would trigger WWIII, the US Military could invade Russia today and turn Moscow to rubble by the end of the weekend if it were directed to. But TPTB have no interest in owning a world that is on fire.

Also incidentally... I believe this to be the big push against Russia right now when China clearly is the world's largest power guilty of the most egregious crimes against humanity and its own citizenry. Russia is a threat to nobody. But Russia also isn't easily bought off by TPTB like the US Government or fully on board with enslaving its people like China is.

Maybe this is the big push toward digital currency? Maybe this is why we currently have a white house press release hinting at the US switching toward a digital currency instead of cash?

If TPTB created digital currency and weened the world off of the USD and all other international currencies over the course of say, a few decades, they'd have complete control over it, and in turn practically over everyone on the planet. Nobody would be able to fight against it. Every single transaction you ever make will be logged. Do you like eating food? Well then, hop in the machine, Cog, and give thanks to your overlord for allowing you this opportunity. If you ever step out of line you will starve to death. Anybody found guilty of trying to feed, clothe or house somebody cut off from the digital currency will be found guilty of treason.

Hell... they could even make your currency have an expiration date so whatever you don't spend at the end of the month is lost and you can never save for a better future, both ensuring the "consumerism" economy chugs along until the sun explodes and essentially enslaving you to the whims of the system from the moment you're born until the day you die.

That's the only outcome I'm concerned about. Worrying about China and the Middle East making their own little currency to fight the Big Bad Dollar is cute.

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6ix, if you believe what you wrote, it is time for you to sell your house for gold and vanish before the government takes everything from you with taxes.


Taxes? Why wait for that? It's already taking everything everybody owns through inflation and market manipulation.

Besides? Where would I go?

And you want to talk insanity? How about we talk about the belief that Gold is going to be worth anything if the economy as we know it didn't exist anymore.

Would you invent an app that could convert your gold bars into cryptocurrency when you make a payment? I can't imagine that you'd find that in the App Store or on Google Play. And I wouldn't expect anybody to be very keen on trading 1's and 0's from their own digital wallet for a slice off of your gold bar when they'd be risking their own livelihood by lying about what a purchase was in an attempt to hide the fact they just gave crypto to somebody who was either cut off from the system or never signed up for it in the first place. Especially not when they'd have to take the same risk spending the gold anywhere, and with somebody else who would be willing to share the same risk. By that time, gold is all but contraband, if it hasn't already outright been deemed contraband once again like it had been in the US when the Gold Reserve Act was enacted in 1934.

And all of that is not even taking into consideration the life one would have to live in order to hoard gold and ensure nobody else stole it or just killed you for it. Even if a black market was somehow to be established that would allow for you to exchange gold for goods and services outside of the all-seeing eye of the Cryptofasists, now you're a target of all of the criminals. The criminals at the top running the entire new world of finance, the enemies of the state who just want to operate their lives outside of the Cryptofascism and the REAL hardened criminals who would skin their mother alive for a nickel.

Yeah... Good luck with that.

The sad truth is, if TPTB want to convert the world currency to Cryptofascism, there's not a damn thing any one of us can do about it. The even sadder truth is that when that world inevitably comes to be our reality, submitting your free will and living inside the confines of Cryptofascism will be a better life than any alternative.

Rat's in a cage.



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Thursday, November 24, 2022 12:06 PM

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 5:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And the two dumb Democrat shits left on this board either have nothing to say about it or scream TRUMP!!!!

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
You are not the only crazy person I know, but you are the most articulate. Today you wrote:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's even more than that though.

We in America are beneficiaries to the fact that the REAL PTB based their whole empire off of the USD.

Now unless they have a particular gripe against the US that they find so irredeemably egregious that they have no choice but to switch currency, think of the logistics involved in that. TPTB wouldn't want to make a move so drastic and with such unpredictable results unless they knew full well that they had complete control over the outcome from the get go. And as you've illustrated above, any attempt at middle-management "leaders" trying to do so on their own ends up with their cities being turned to rubble.

People the world round can say all they want about the weakness of the US Military, but all that is is talk. Our military dwarfs the rest of the world's military and gets larger and larger cash infusions nearly every single year, and despite that fact it does practically nothing but "exist".

Incidentally... Screw NATO. If it weren't for the fact that it would trigger WWIII, the US Military could invade Russia today and turn Moscow to rubble by the end of the weekend if it were directed to. But TPTB have no interest in owning a world that is on fire.

Also incidentally... I believe this to be the big push against Russia right now when China clearly is the world's largest power guilty of the most egregious crimes against humanity and its own citizenry. Russia is a threat to nobody. But Russia also isn't easily bought off by TPTB like the US Government or fully on board with enslaving its people like China is.

Maybe this is the big push toward digital currency? Maybe this is why we currently have a white house press release hinting at the US switching toward a digital currency instead of cash?

If TPTB created digital currency and weened the world off of the USD and all other international currencies over the course of say, a few decades, they'd have complete control over it, and in turn practically over everyone on the planet. Nobody would be able to fight against it. Every single transaction you ever make will be logged. Do you like eating food? Well then, hop in the machine, Cog, and give thanks to your overlord for allowing you this opportunity. If you ever step out of line you will starve to death. Anybody found guilty of trying to feed, clothe or house somebody cut off from the digital currency will be found guilty of treason.

Hell... they could even make your currency have an expiration date so whatever you don't spend at the end of the month is lost and you can never save for a better future, both ensuring the "consumerism" economy chugs along until the sun explodes and essentially enslaving you to the whims of the system from the moment you're born until the day you die.

That's the only outcome I'm concerned about. Worrying about China and the Middle East making their own little currency to fight the Big Bad Dollar is cute.

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6ix, if you believe what you wrote, it is time for you to sell your house for gold and vanish before the government takes everything from you with taxes.


Taxes? Why wait for that? It's already taking everything everybody owns through inflation and market manipulation.

Besides? Where would I go?

And you want to talk insanity? How about we talk about the belief that Gold is going to be worth anything if the economy as we know it didn't exist anymore.

Would you invent an app that could convert your gold bars into cryptocurrency when you make a payment? I can't imagine that you'd find that in the App Store or on Google Play. And I wouldn't expect anybody to be very keen on trading 1's and 0's from their own digital wallet for a slice off of your gold bar when they'd be risking their own livelihood by lying about what a purchase was in an attempt to hide the fact they just gave crypto to somebody who was either cut off from the system or never signed up for it in the first place. Especially not when they'd have to take the same risk spending the gold anywhere, and with somebody else who would be willing to share the same risk. By that time, gold is all but contraband, if it hasn't already outright been deemed contraband once again like it had been in the US when the Gold Reserve Act was enacted in 1934.

And all of that is not even taking into consideration the life one would have to live in order to hoard gold and ensure nobody else stole it or just killed you for it. Even if a black market was somehow to be established that would allow for you to exchange gold for goods and services outside of the all-seeing eye of the Cryptofasists, now you're a target of all of the criminals. The criminals at the top running the entire new world of finance, the enemies of the state who just want to operate their lives outside of the Cryptofascism and the REAL hardened criminals who would skin their mother alive for a nickel.

Yeah... Good luck with that.

The sad truth is, if TPTB want to convert the world currency to Cryptofascism, there's not a damn thing any one of us can do about it. The even sadder truth is that when that world inevitably comes to be our reality, submitting your free will and living inside the confines of Cryptofascism will be a better life than any alternative.

Rat's in a cage.



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I read this and agree with you, except that you find in ALL tightly regulated markets... whether rationed, highly taxed, or monitored... a thriving black (and gray) market.
The real problems with gold are that

It's far too valuable to be used for everyday purchases. Silver is much better suited, and

You can't pay taxes with it, except in Texas where, IIRC, it's considered legal tender
The purity of coupons and bars is always suspect.


Unless you buy official gold or silver coins, which are considered legal tender


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Thursday, November 24, 2022 11:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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I read this and agree with you, except that you find in ALL tightly regulated markets... whether rationed, highly taxed, or monitored... a thriving black (and gray) market.


Yeah. But there's never been Cryptocurrency before. It's a flat out game changer.

We're not rationed here (yet), but we've been highly taxed and monitored for quite some time. But the only accessible way around this is Cash. Bartering is also an option, but you're going to need to have skills and/or be an excellent workhorse if you're going to want to trade services for other goods or services, and this also requires you to be able to sell yourself to other people. That's quite a high barrier for your average person who doesn't know shit and/or is lazy and/or can't sell themselves. Really, the only third option is being a true criminal and either doing dirty deeds or dealing in contraband.

Now if you take cash away completely, and every transaction that you make as a laborer/consumer or business owner is easily monitored digitally without the need of any human oversight, the only thing you have left besides illegal activity is bartering.

And what happens when they make that illegal, and incentivize people within the system to rat out anybody they see bartering outside of the system by convincing them that their tax burden is higher when people barter and/or they offer small bounties for reporting these "crimes" to officials?

Quote:
The real problems with gold are that

It's far too valuable to be used for everyday purchases. Silver is much better suited, and


True that. But your stash for your silver is going to have to be 10 times the size as it would have been for gold. Somebody WILL find it and kill you for it. You won't have any legal recourse, because the killers that want your gold and silver aren't much different from the people holding the keys to your Crypto Wallets. They'd throw you in prison for even admitting to them that somebody stole your prescious metals or that you suspected that somebody was trying to. Hey... maybe they cut you a break and they don't throw you in prison, but they just go right in and take all your metal from you and lock you out of your digital wallet for a month and cut you loose and watch you beg out on the street for food.

Quote:
You can't pay taxes with it, except in Texas where, IIRC, it's considered legal tender
The purity of coupons and bars is always suspect.

Unless you buy official gold or silver coins, which are considered legal tender


Yup. That's why if I were to buy any silver it would be "junk silver". But the price of that is ludicrous now.

https://sdbullion.com/silver/junk-silver/90-constitutional-junk-silver

And if Crypto currency becomes the currency of the land it won't even matter.

Poor people (the ones most likely to try to make some side scratch to make ends meet beyond their meager rationed digital currency) will never be trading in silver or gold anyhow. Maybe they'll trade in bottle caps like in Fallout (Or that one Duck Tales episode I still remember from when I was a kid). But then they'd just be using tangible tokens to plant obs on each other for bartering instead of straight up bartering, and now you're leaving yourself a nasty little paper trail that makes it easier for the authorities to nail you for operating outside of the Cryptofascism.

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Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:40 AM

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Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:47 PM

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So did you guys hear about the Super Villain convention in NYC tomorrow?

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Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:57 PM

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So did you guys hear about the Super Villain convention in NYC tomorrow?

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Tomorrow at the Lincoln Center, the guest list includes the following people...

Eric Adams - Mayor, NYC
Sam Bankman-fried - Founder, FTX
Shou Chew - C.E.O. TikTok
Larry Fink - Chairman and C.E.O., BlackRock
Reed Hastings - Founder and Co-C.E.O. Netflix
Andy Jassy - President and C.E.O., Amazon
Van Jones - CNN Host
Merideth Kopit Levien - President and C.E.O., NYT
Benjamin Netanyahu - Former Prime Minister of Isreal
Mike Pence - Some Guy
Priscilla Sims Brown - President and C.E.O., Amalgamated Bank
Janet Yellen - US Department of the Treasury Secretary
Volodymyr Zelensky - President, Ukraine
Mark Zuckerberg - Founder, Chairman and C.E.O., Meta

Haven't RSVP'd yet...
Lex Luthor
Krampus
Sumara
Michael Meyers
Randall Flagg
Adolph Hitler
Satan

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