Russian losses in Ukraine by THG

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I DON'T TRUST UKRAINE STORIES.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THAT?

Russia wants to look like it's winning. It wants it's people on side (as the Brits say.)

Ukraine wants to look like it's winning. It wants to keep the EU, NATO, and the USA on side. All of that money! Somebody in Ukraine is getting rich!

The USA wants to paint Russia as both dangerously evil and, at the same time, clownishly incompetent. Seems like a recipe for cognitive dissonance, but brainwashed people don't suffer from that bc you need some cognition for that dissonance.

As a result, what I have found is that Russia admits losses slowly, if at all. But if they say they've done something, they're usually truthful bc eventually Ukraine and the west have to admit the front line has moved, or that Ukraine is suffering heavy losses.

Kiev? Tells BIG FAT JUICY WHOPPERS that are eventually discredited. The Ghost of Kiev. The brave soldiers of Snakes Island. Mass rapes by Russian soldiers. Offensives that are going to happen, any day now! "Million man army". It's gotten to the point I shitcan anything coming out of Kiev.

The USA has its muddled message. We're supporting democracy in Ukraine! No, weren't weakening Russia to cause regime change! Russia is a clusterfuck! But it's so powerful it has caused both the global food crisis AND the energy crisis! And if course the whoopers: Putin is dying. Shoigu had a heart attack. Gerasimov has been fired. Russia is running out of missiles. The stuff that doesn't cancel itself often belongs in the shitcan, too. WHY the neocons have such a hardon for Russia, I don't know. It's as bad as JO753"s paranoia that Russia might do "something" "somehow", altho he can't say what, or how.

What I get out of the welter of propaganda sloshing around is that Russia's actions are explained by security issues, and America's actions are explained by aggression.

When the neocons tried to topple Syria, a Russian sent ships from Sebastopol athwart the Syrian coast. A lightbulb went on in the neocons' heads Oh yeah! Sebastopol'. After that, they made it their mission to acquire Russia's only warm water naval base.

The neocons have also had this fixation about creating a cordon sanitaire, and eventually breaking up Russia for a resource grab. So NATO expanded inexorably east, and NATO missiles went into Poland and Romania, and it looked like Ukraine might be next

Go back to Putin's Security Council speech of 2007. I think you'll find it all there.

All of the rest is just window-dressing, IMHO .

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Your answers to all questions are emptiness, Signym. Have you been taking lesson from 6ix? He is always saying Nobody cares. I can see why nothing happens worth talking about in his life, although that doesn't stop him from writing. He lives in a void of emptiness. He is drifting through space until his oxygen runs out.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 5:49 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I DON'T TRUST UKRAINE STORIES.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THAT?

Russia wants to look like it's winning. It wants its people on side (as the Brits say.)

Ukraine wants to look like it's winning. It wants to keep the EU, NATO, and the USA on side. All of that money! Somebody in Ukraine is getting rich!

The USA wants to paint Russia as both dangerously evil and, at the same time, clownishly incompetent. Seems like a recipe for cognitive dissonance, but brainwashed people don't suffer from that bc you need some cognition for that dissonance.

As a result, what I have found is that Russia admits losses slowly, if at all. But if they say they've done something, they're usually truthful bc eventually Ukraine and the west have to admit the front line has moved, or that Ukraine is suffering heavy losses.

Kiev? Tells BIG FAT JUICY WHOPPERS that are eventually discredited. The Ghost of Kiev. The brave soldiers of Snakes Island. Mass rapes by Russian soldiers. Offensives that are going to happen, any day now! "Million man army". It's gotten to the point I shitcan anything coming out of Kiev.

The USA has its muddled message. We're supporting democracy in Ukraine! No, we're weakening Russia to cause regime change! Russia is a clusterfuck! But it's so powerful it has caused both the global food crisis AND the energy crisis! And if course the whoopers: Putin is dying. Shoigu had a heart attack. Gerasimov has been fired. Russia is running out of missiles. The stuff that doesn't cancel itself often belongs in the shitcan, too. WHY the neocons have such a hardon for Russia, I don't know. It's as bad as JO753"s paranoia that Russia might do "something" "somehow", altho he can't say what, or how.

What I get out of the welter of propaganda sloshing around is that Russia's actions are explained by security issues, and America's actions are explained by aggression.

When the neocons tried to topple Syria, Russia sent ships from Sebastopol athwart the Syrian coast. A lightbulb went on in the neocons' heads Oh yeah! Sebastopol'. After that, they made it their mission to acquire Russia's only warm water naval base.

The neocons have also had this fixation about creating a cordon sanitaire, and eventually breaking up Russia for a resource grab. So NATO expanded inexorably east, and NATO missiles went into Poland and Romania, and it looked like Ukraine might be next

Go back to Putin's Security Council speech of 2007. I think you'll find it all there.

All of the rest is just window-dressing, IMHO .

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. Now, again,IMHO neither Russia nor China can create existential problems for us. We, OTOH, have done that to ourselves. De-industrialization Wealth gap. Debt load. Energy dependence. No border protection. Lack of unity. Dependence on preying on weaker nations.

All Russia and China have to do is stop participating in our system, defend their territories, provide an alternative "world order" financial and trade strucutre for less-developed nations plus military protection, and watch us keel over.

Nobody has to attack us. Our elites have already done that.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
I DON'T TRUST UKRAINE STORIES.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THAT?

Russia wants to look like it's winning. It wants it's people on side (as the Brits say.)

Ukraine wants to look like it's winning. It wants to keep the EU, NATO, and the USA on side. All of that money! Somebody in Ukraine is getting rich!

The USA wants to paint Russia as both dangerously evil and, at the same time, clownishly incompetent. Seems like a recipe for cognitive dissonance, but brainwashed people don't suffer from that bc you need some cognition for that dissonance.

As a result, what I have found is that Russia admits losses slowly, if at all. But if they say they've done something, they're usually truthful bc eventually Ukraine and the west have to admit the front line has moved, or that Ukraine is suffering heavy losses.

Kiev? Tells BIG FAT JUICY WHOPPERS that are eventually discredited. The Ghost of Kiev. The brave soldiers of Snakes Island. Mass rapes by Russian soldiers. Offensives that are going to happen, any day now! "Million man army". It's gotten to the point I shitcan anything coming out of Kiev.

The USA has its muddled message. We're supporting democracy in Ukraine! No, weren't weakening Russia to cause regime change! Russia is a clusterfuck! But it's so powerful it has caused both the global food crisis AND the energy crisis! And if course the whoopers: Putin is dying. Shoigu had a heart attack. Gerasimov has been fired. Russia is running out of missiles. The stuff that doesn't cancel itself often belongs in the shitcan, too. WHY the neocons have such a hardon for Russia, I don't know. It's as bad as JO753"s paranoia that Russia might do "something" "somehow", altho he can't say what, or how.

What I get out of the welter of propaganda sloshing around is that Russia's actions are explained by security issues, and America's actions are explained by aggression.

When the neocons tried to topple Syria, a Russian sent ships from Sebastopol athwart the Syrian coast. A lightbulb went on in the neocons' heads Oh yeah! Sebastopol'. After that, they made it their mission to acquire Russia's only warm water naval base.

The neocons have also had this fixation about creating a cordon sanitaire, and eventually breaking up Russia for a resource grab. So NATO expanded inexorably east, and NATO missiles went into Poland and Romania, and it looked like Ukraine might be next

Go back to Putin's Security Council speech of 2007. I think you'll find it all there.

All of the rest is just window-dressing, IMHO .

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Your answers to all questions are emptiness, Signym. Have you been taking lesson from 6ix? He is always saying Nobody cares. I can see why nothing happens worth talking about in his life, although that doesn't stop him from writing. He lives in a void of emptiness. He is drifting through space until his oxygen runs out.

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You asked how I see it.
You don't like the answer but you can't refute it. So you plug your ears and cover your eyes and say "Nyah Nyah Nyah I can't hear/see you".

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing if you want to discern reality.

AFA SIX is concerned, there's a lot more positive happening in his life than yours. You are consumed by hate and are buried in lies, and you like it that way.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

You asked how I see it.
You don't like the answer but you can't refute it. So you plug your ears and cover your eyes and say "Nyah Nyah Nyah I can't hear/see you".

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing if you want to discern reality.

AFA SIX is concerned, there's a lot more positive happening in his life than yours. You are consumed by hate and are buried in lies, and you like it that way.

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Signym, you communicate too much. You have an entire alternate version of the shape of the world. I'm thinking of the documentary "Behind the Curve" about Flat Earthers. They have completely bent the world into a new shape to match the ideas in their heads, but the world didn't bend at all. The Flat Earthers are loony. So are you, Signym. But the Flat Earthers feel that their beliefs give the world meaning. That is worth something to them, but their feelings are actually worthless.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8132700/

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 7:01 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SignyM:

You asked how I see it.
You don't like the answer but you can't refute it. So you plug your ears and cover your eyes and say "Nyah Nyah Nyah I can't hear/see you".

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing if you want to discern reality.

AFA SIX is concerned, there's a lot more positive happening in his life than yours. You are consumed by hate and are buried in lies, and you like it that way.

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Signym, you communicate too much. You have an entire alternate version of the shape of the world. I'm thinking of the documentary "Behind the Curve" about Flat Earthers. They have completely bent the world into a new shape to match the ideas in their heads, but the world didn't bend at all. The Flat Earthers are loony. So are you, Signym. But the Flat Earthers feel that their beliefs give the world meaning. That is worth something to them, but their feelings are actually worthless.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8132700/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.

BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

I have pots to scrub and floors to vacuum. Infinitely better use of my time than conversion with twisted people.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 7:05 PM

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FOR THUGR.

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I do the verification, SHITCAN.

I broaden my sources and bang different reports together. I read/listen outside of the bubble.

Sometimes,given enough time, they say the same thing. (Like "Putin entirely too healthy", or- eventually, the position of the frontline in Ukraine.)

I READ CAREFULLY. For example, Russians are NOT accused of "shooting down" MH17.

I LOOK FOR EVIDENCE. That DOESN'T mean gossip or allegations, it means verifiable fact, like file metadata, written documents, etc

I PAY ATTENTION TO WHO HAS LIED ABOUT WHAT IN THE PAST.

I parse for cui bono.

I look for patterns ... when does a "news item" become part of a daily drumbeat? When does it disappear? I look for "moving goalposts" or efforts to change the narrative or memory-hole a topic.

I look for efforts to play on emotion: Name-calling. Shocking allegtions. Dehumanization. Demonization. Fear-mongering.

Whenever some claims that "someone" is trying to do "something" I ask "HOW?". Because, in the real world, there will always be a trail of HOW. That's why I knew that Jan 6 wasn't an attempted coup or even an insurrection: There as no plan by which it could have come about, no assembled people, no asembled materiel. That's how I knew Iraq didn't have WMD. That's how I knew that Trump wasn't "colluding" with Russia: There was no "How are they doing that"?

I look beyond out-of-context snippets. I watched an entire 2 hours of a videotape of the Covington students waiting for their bus. It was crystal clear that the "respected Native Elder" waded into the students, confrontationally. Not the other way around.

I check to see if it contradicts itself, or if it makes sense. (For example, does it makes sense to say that Russia lost as many, or more, soldiers in Ukraine than Kiev did? No, it doesn't.)

I compare it to basics: where is the energy (I mean energy as in physics, not emotional agitation) flowing? Who is producing what? I talk to friends who do the same thing, more insightfully.

NOT YOU [SECOND], OF COURSE.
You post topics that contradict each other, sometimes one right after another. When you get your ass handed to you on one topic, you trail a red herring across it. You name-call. You splatter the board with anything you can find, whether it makes sense or not. You insinuate devious motives in others. You try and associate a person (Trump, Putin.me) with irrelevant others (Confederate generals, Hitler, Stalin, Putin etc)

If somone REALLY gets under your skin, you threaten them in a backhand way, or wish them ill.

Shit, son, you have SUCH an extensive history of lying I don't even read thru your posts anymore. They're 99.9% hate-driven pointless garbage.

It's clear you hate Americans and you hate anyone who loves America.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 7:14 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.

BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth ( in your case, that Ukraine is wrong, Russia is right). Those who believe the world is spherical are being fooled because the round Earthers aren't using logic and aren't thinking clearly, unlike the flat Earthers. Or in your case, the Russophiles.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 8:03 PM

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SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.
BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

SECOND: Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth

Liar.
That's not my premise.
In addition, flat-earthers and I differ on how we arrive at something closer to the truth.
THEY rely on belief.
I rely on data and predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses.
YOU'RE the flat-earther, SECOND.
I don't care how many times you lie about me; you're still lying.

ETA: I didn't even watch the video, pretty much like I ignore most of the crap you post. I've argued with flat earthers before. They cling to their delusion by ignoring the direction that 99.9% of the evidence points to, including the personal experience of people who have traveled around the globe and not fallen off.

99.9% of your posts tell me that you're lying.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth

Some idiots believe in behind the curve.

Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 9:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth

Some idiots believe in behind the curve.

Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.

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Chiming in with your own personal counterfactual belief isn't helping, SIX.

There was a virus, and a lot of people died. Russia, Iran, China, etc had no common interest in admitting they were in a weakened state. Just because TPTB took advantage of the virus doesn't mean it didn't exist and that the original variant wasn't dangerous, IMNSHO.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 9:15 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.
BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

SECOND: Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth

Liar.
That's not my premise.
In addition, flat-earthers and I differ on how we arrive at something closer to the truth.
THEY rely on belief.
I rely on data and predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses.
YOU'RE the flat-earther, SECOND.
I don't care how many times you lie about me; you're still lying.

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The flat-earthers say they have data. The movie "Bending the Curve" shows them gathering their data. Then they interpret the data as proving the world is flat. It's funny how they botch the experiments without noticing their errors and their misconceptions about the physics of light or the physics of a ring laser gyroscope (which the flat-earthers were using to prove that the Earth does NOT rotate on an axis from the North Pole to the South Pole).

Signym, you say "I rely on data." Where do you get trustworthy data on the Ukraine War? When I asked about news stories you trust, that was what I asking about, but you didn't answer. Instead, you must pull facts out of thin air, by which I mean your big brain.

Signym, you also say "I rely on . . . predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses." Your hypotheses are unstated. I might guess at what they are, but if I did then you'd say I was wrong, but then you still won't give me the hypotheses that are driving your endless discourse. Here is one guess about your hypotheses: Russia wins. Here is another: Ukraine's government is Nazi.

I am certain that Russia will say it won, no matter what happens. Also certain that Russia will keep saying Nazis run Ukraine, no matter what. Gonna deny war crimes, too. Gonna blame Ukraine for false flag atrocities to pin on Russia.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.
BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

SECOND: Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth

Liar.
That's not my premise.
In addition, flat-earthers and I differ on how we arrive at something closer to the truth.
THEY rely on belief.
I rely on data and predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses.
YOU'RE the flat-earther, SECOND.
I don't care how many times you lie about me; you're still lying.

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The flat-earthers say they have data. The movie "Bending the Curve" shows them gathering their data. Then they interpret the data as proving the world is flat. It's funny how they botch the experiments without noticing their errors and their misconceptions about the physics of light or the physics of a ring laser gyroscope (which the flat-earthers were using to prove that the Earth does NOT rotate on an axis from the North Pole to the South Pole).

Signym, you say "I rely on data." Where do you get trustworthy data on the Ukraine War? When I asked about news stories you trust, that was what I asking about, but you didn't answer. Instead, you must pull facts out of thin air, by which I mean your big brain.

Signym, you also say "I rely on . . . predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses." Your hypotheses are unstated. I might guess at what they are, but if I did then you'd say I was wrong, but then you still won't give me the hypotheses that are driving your endless discourse. Here is one guess about your hypotheses: Russia wins. Here is another: Ukraine's government is Nazi.

I am certain that Russia will say it won, no matter what happens. Also certain that Russia will keep saying Nazis run Ukraine, no matter what. Gonna deny war crimes, too. Gonna blame Ukraine for false flag atrocities to pin on Russia.

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Shit, SECOND, I posted twice on the topic.

If you're saying that nearly everything we know is second-hand, you're right. Even what we THINK we see is highly processed by our brains already.

Leonardo da Vinci didn't see anything that a competent butcher didn't see. But they processed their vision with a view towards "how to cut more efficiently", while da Vinci looked at the human body in an entirely different way. So even "direct to experience" isn't as straightforward as one might think.

But it is possible to bang vastly different sources together and find the unreliable/ non-predictive sources. I can even draw on my background in the physical sciences to get to the nub. I think of explanations that encompass ALL of the data, and if possible make predictions and judge how far off the mark I am, or not.

You don't want to admit that it can be done bc your whole house of lies would collapse and you'd have to admit you're just a virtue-signalling, lying, twisted fuck of a malignancy.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth

Some idiots believe in behind the curve.

Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.

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Chiming in with your own personal counterfactual belief isn't helping, SIX.

There was a virus, and a lot of people died. Russia, Iran, China, etc had no common interest in admitting they were in a weakened state. Just because TPTB took advantage of the virus doesn't mean it didn't exist and that the original variant wasn't dangerous, IMNSHO.

Two weeks of "flatten the curve" turned into two years of everyone's life put on pause.

Nobody died of Covid. Had they taken care of themselves before a novel cold virus was around, they would still be alive today. (And I can guaranty you that the amount of people world-wide who changed any bad behaviors after this two years is in the fractions of a percent range, so nothing was gained.)

And so, so many of those death counts were lies altogether, with people who had been diagnosed with Covid within 30 days of their completely unrelated death (Ex: vehicle accident) being counted as Covid to bump the numbers.

Had TPTB not lied through their teeth, screwed up the world economy and ultimately held people's jobs for ransom to force them to take an experimental vaccination that we're not going to know the actual effects of for decades, there wouldn't be record levels of distrust right now in all of them.

We, as in human beings, are going to feel the ripples from this long after a lot of us are dead.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 11:19 PM

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SIX: Some idiots believe in behind the curve.
Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.

SIGNY: Chiming in with your own personal counterfactual belief isn't helping, SIX.
There was a virus, and a lot of people died. Russia, Iran, China, etc had no common interest in admitting they were in a weakened state. Just because TPTB took advantage of the virus doesn't mean it didn't exist and that the original variant wasn't dangerous, IMNSHO.

SIX: Two weeks of "flatten the curve" turned into two years of everyone's life put on pause.

True, that.

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SIX: Nobody died of Covid.

False.
By your reasoning, nobody ever dies "of" a disease, they always die because their heart eventually stopped beating. If they had managed to keep their heart beating, they wouldn't have died.

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SIX: Had they taken care of themselves before a novel cold virus was around, they would still be alive today. (And I can guaranty you that the amount of people world-wide who changed any bad behaviors after this two years is in the fractions of a percent range, so nothing was gained.)

False.
Now you're sounding like SECOND: Only "Trumptards" die.
Are you sure you're not SECOND?

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SIX: And so, so many of those death counts were lies altogether, with people who had been diagnosed with Covid within 30 days of their completely unrelated death (Ex: vehicle accident) being counted as Covid to bump the numbers.

Of course, you have nothing but your assertion to "prove" your point.

I look at other stats, and other nations.

If you look at the sheer numbers of deaths, irrespective of cause, there is a large spike right when the first two variants were sweeping the world. These deaths occurred well before any negative lockdown effects.

Not only that, it happened into multiple nations, like Iran. Something like a quarter of their high-level leaders keeled over. This supposedly happened because they all went to mosque together every Friday, and Iran is one of those cultures where men stand very close together. Literally "breathing each other's air".

Did this cause them to change their customs? Institute a long lockdown? As far as I know, they took their lumps but they also reported their dead.

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SIX: Had TPTB not lied through their teeth, screwed up the world economy and ultimately held people's jobs for ransom to force them to take an experimental vaccination that we're not going to know the actual effects of for decades, there wouldn't be record levels of distrust right now in all of them.

A) First of all, "the world" didn't all respond that way There are a lot of nations with high Covid deaths that didn't lock down for extended periods of time and didn't impose vaccine mandates. Still, they had Covid deaths And they admit it.
B) You - and others- area making the mistake of reacting emotionally and oppositionally, just like some are driven by propaganda to react emotionally to conform.

Put emotion on hold and brain in gear.

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SIX: We, as in human beings, are going to feel the ripples from this long after a lot of us are dead.

"This" what?
Vaccine? Hardly.
Government overreach?
Economic malaise?
Social effects on children?

WHAT are you suggesting and HOW do you propose "this" is going to come about? Don't be a JO753. Don't be afraid that "something" is going to happen "somehow". There be paranoia.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 11:33 PM

And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Funny that.

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Saturday, July 23, 2022 11:43 PM

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And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Funny that.

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Uh huh.

So, you admit that people can die of a virus?

Do you have stats from every nation across the entire globe? Or do you suppose everyone is all colluding together on this topic?

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Shit, SECOND, I posted twice on the topic.

If you're saying that nearly everything we know is second-hand, you're right. Even what we THINK we see is highly processed by our brains already.

Leonardo da Vinci didn't see anything that a competent butcher didn't see. But they processed their vision with a view towards "how to cut more efficiently", while da Vinci looked at the human body in an entirely different way. So even "direct to experience" isn't as straightforward as one might think.

But it is possible to bang vastly different sources together and find the unreliable/ non-predictive sources. I can even draw on my background in the physical sciences to get to the nub. I think of explanations that encompass ALL of the data, and if possible make predictions and judge how far off the mark I am, or not.

You don't want to admit that it can be done bc your whole house of lies would collapse and you'd have to admit you're just a virtue-signalling, lying, twisted fuck of a malignancy.

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There you go, again, congratulating yourself and excoriating your enemies. A close analogy for the role you are playing, Signym, would be those people who once wrote multi-page letters to famous scientists and now write trolling comments on the blogs of famous scientists telling the scientist that there is a new theory from the troll and the widely held old scientific theories are lies and misconceptions spread by charlatans and evil elitists.

Signym, I would say the following is true. What do you say?: Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky says his forces are advancing "step by step" on the occupied southern city of Kherson.
The city fell to Russia in the opening days of the war and sits on a strategic location west of the Dnipro river.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-says-it-is-advancing-on-o
ccupied-city/ar-AAZUtMT

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 8:14 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Funny that.

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Uh huh.

So, you admit that people can die of a virus?

Do you have stats from every nation across the entire globe? Or do you suppose everyone is all colluding together on this topic?

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And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 8:42 AM

Ukraine will lose... our money.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 8:46 AM

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And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

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Flu deaths are counted, 6ix. Is this another version of your "nobody cares" nihilism?

Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:19 AM

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6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.
Funny that.

SIGNY: Uh huh.
So, you admit that people can die of a virus?
Do you have stats from every nation across the entire globe? Or do you suppose everyone is all colluding together on this topic?

SIX: And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Like I tell SECOND: repeating bullshit doesn't make it true.

You're usually smarter than this SIX.

Even the CDC, that purveyor of twisted statistics, reported flu deaths during the pandemic.

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The first thing to know is that deaths due to COVID-19 and the flu are not counted in the same way. This means comparing the numbers isn’t as straightforward as we would like.

Each death due to influenza in the U.S. does not have to be reported, so there is never a direct count. [i.e. It's not a reportable illness] Each flu season, the CDC estimates deaths from the flu based on in-hospital deaths and death certificate data. They continue to update the data on their website as they collect it. Therefore, numbers from the last two flu seasons are not considered final just yet.

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The U.S. saw about 700 deaths from influenza during the 2020–2021 season

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-worldwi
de-during-the-covid-pandemic1/

What you don't understand, SIX, is that when someone goes to hospital with fever, low Osats, and difficulty breathing, they're tested for EVERYTHING: Covid, the zillion different influenzas. Legionnaire's disease. Pneumococcal pneumonia. A couple of dozen different tests. I should know: Hubby developed pneumonia during the height of the pandemic and I had to take him to the ER. The # of things they tested him for was impressively long, and NOT JUST COVID.

People who use terms like "nobody", "everybody", "never", "always" are almost always wrong, and in this case, you are.

I carve out this specific topic from your posts and pay no attention to them. They're almost always mis-informed/uninformed oppositional screeds.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:29 AM

These people died WITH Covid. Not OF Covid.

If they didn't want nobody to ever believe in them again, they should have been honest about that from the start instead of lying, manipulating, coercing and blackmailing everybody they could to bend to their will and allow themselves and their children to be experimented on. They shouldn't have censored and cancelled anybody in the medical community who was speaking out against these actions.

Fuck The CDC. Fuck the WHO. Fuck Fauci. Fuck The Lying Legacy Media. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Pfizer. Fuck Moderna.

If there is a hell, the actions of the last two years are going to see more people go there than ever did at any point in history.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
These people died WITH Covid. Not OF Covid.

If they didn't want nobody to ever believe in them again, they should have been honest about that from the start instead of lying, manipulating, coercing and blackmailing everybody they could to bend to their will and allow themselves and their children to be experimented on. They shouldn't have censored and cancelled anybody in the medical community who was speaking out against these actions.

Fuck The CDC. Fuck the WHO. Fuck Fauci. Fuck The Lying Legacy Media. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Pfizer. Fuck Moderna.

If there is a hell, the actions of the last two years are going to see more people go there than ever did at any point in history.

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I understand your reaction. But even tho there might have been SOME lying and SOME conflated death stats, IT WASN'T ALL OF THEM, and probably not even a majority of them.

You've let your anger twist your thinking. Don't become another SECOND or another THUGR. Stick with reality, not some exaggerated, highlighted version of it.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 11:24 AM

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The little-known story of the American effort to relieve starvation in the new Soviet Russia in 1921, The Great Famine is a documentary about the worst natural disaster in Europe since the Black Plague in the Middle Ages. Half a world away, Americans responded with a massive two-year relief campaign, championed by Herbert Hoover, director of the American Relief Administration known as the ARA. Herbert Hoover got credit for saving more lives than any other person in history. Russians? What do they remember today? Nothing?

Watch the video at https://www.pbs.org/video/american-experience-the-great-famine/

Download at https://yts.mx/movies/american-experience-the-great-famine-2011

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 11:46 AM

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SECOND, posting pointless shit, again.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:13 PM

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SECOND, posting pointless shit, again.

Foreign policy looks like a status game for Vladimir Putin and his humiliation stories: The world does not see and respect Russia; we must strike back.

How Putin Learned to Hold Deadly Grudges

Russia’s president has been shaped by decades of bitterness and revenge.
July 17, 2022, 7:00 AM

The invasion of Ukraine caught many analysts of Russia off guard. Russian President Vladimir Putin had long been thought of as rough, tough, and brutal — but also calculating and cautious. The Ukrainian adventure seemed out of character. But Putin’s personal history reveals that his decision to go to war is entirely in character — and that he is very likely to continue it indefinitely.

Putin has justified his invasion by citing a long list of grievances against the West, especially NATO’s expansion into the former Soviet sphere of influence in Eastern Europe, and against Ukraine itself. But the roots of Putin’s recklessness go back to a tendency he has shown since childhood to lash out when he has felt wronged or betrayed. Later passages of his life are more than stages he has lived through; they are layers that have built on one another, turning a boy who brawled his way through adolescence into a man who has directed his wrath against a U.S.-led West that he once tried and failed to get along with and that he now blames for betraying him.

More at https://qoshe.com/foreign-policy/william-taubman/how-putin-learned-to-
hold-deadly-grudges/142586039

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/17/putin-revenge-nato-west-ukraine/

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:39 PM

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More bullshit from SECOND.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 12:59 PM

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More bullshit from SECOND.

Signym, I am probing you, shoving a rectal thermometer up your ass. From the several measurements taken on this one page, you are mentally ill. And your man Putin isn't mentally healthy, either, which wouldn't be a big deal except for the thousands of H-bombs he has control over, bombs designed, built and deployed by people who were far more stable than him.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 1:57 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More bullshit from SECOND.
Signym, I am probing you, shoving a rectal thermometer up your ass. From the several measurements taken on this one page, you are mentally ill. And your man Putin isn't mentally healthy, either, which wouldn't be a big deal except for the thousands of H-bombs he has control over, bombs designed, built and deployed by people who were far more stable than him.

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Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:04 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.

Did you know that Putin has a past like an open book? He didn't dump his guts at fireflyfans.net, but there are people who knew him when. I don't have to read his mind, or yours, to know what he and you will do next. Signym, you did what I expected. Putin's future is set in concrete. You're two preprogrammed entities.

About Putin and his first job: Andropov, a veteran party apparatchik who took over the KGB in 1967, wasn’t a KGB-lifer. Much more representative was Stalin’s longtime secret police chief Lavrenty Beria, who was so entirely cynical that the hyper-suspicious Stalin was quite right to fear that Beria was plotting against him. Beria’s predecessors Genrikh Yagoda and Nikolai Yezhov were executed under Stalin’s orders: Beria would meet the same fate in the power struggle after Stalin’s death.

By the time Putin joined, the KGB was less murderous, but its office politics were both brutal and cynical. The KGB expanded Putin’s childhood instincts into the world of adulthood: Politics, whether international or domestic, is a dog-eat-dog struggle. Everybody lies, cheats, and steals. Everyone is suspect. One must always be on guard, ready to fight fire with fire. That is the way of the world. When U.S. leaders portray themselves as “holier than thou,” they are hypocrites.

Putin didn’t distinguish himself in the KGB. Beginning as a lowly spy-chaser in........

https://qoshe.com/foreign-policy/william-taubman/how-putin-learned-to-
hold-deadly-grudges/142586039

Signym, you've got instincts matching Putin's. You've even used the same words that describe Putin's view of the world.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 4:04 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.
Did you know that Putin has a past like an open book? He didn't dump his guts at fireflyfans.net, but there are people who knew him when. I don't have to read his mind, or yours, to know what he and you will do next. Signym, you did what I expected. Putin's future is set in concrete. You're two preprogrammed entities.

lol

That's funny. Coming from the guy who I can get to write a post saying exactly what I want him to say just by typing out the right triggers in my own post first.

You are one of the most predictable people I've ever known in my life dude.

Ted might be stupider than a 5th grader, but at least I know he's not poorly written code.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 4:17 PM

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Panama Papers Whistleblower Speaks Out: “Shell Companies are Putin’s Best Friend”

22 July 2022

Q: Tax havens seem to be of crucial importance for strongmen in autocratic regimes.

A: Putin is more of a threat to the United States than Hitler ever was, and shell companies are his best friend. Shell companies funding the Russian military are what kill innocent civilians in Ukraine as Putin’s missiles target shopping centers. Shell companies masking Chinese conglomerates are what kill underage cobalt miners in the Congo. Shell companies make these horrors and more possible by removing accountability from society. But without accountability, society cannot function.

Q: The Panama Papers seem to be more relevant than ever, due to the Russian aggression in Ukraine. For example, one of the oldest and closest friends of Vladimir Putin, the cellist Sergei Roldugin, got sanctioned at the end of February. The main reason for that has been found in the Panama Papers, which showed that Roldugin seems to have acted as a proxy for his powerful friend and owns billions — at least on paper. Are you pleased about that twist of events?

A: I was glad to see Roldugin sanctioned. I think it’s brilliant.

Q: Do you fear Russia might seek revenge?

A: It’s a risk that I live with, given that the Russian government has expressed the fact that it wants me dead. Before Russia Today’s media presence was curtailed due to Russia’s attack against Ukraine, it aired a two-part Panama Papers docudrama featuring a “John Doe” character who suffered a torture-induced head injury during the opening credits, after which a cartoon boat sailed through the pool of his blood, as though it were the Panama Canal. However bizarre and tacky, it was not subtle. We have seen others with connections to offshore accounts and tax justice resort to murder, as with the tragedies involving Daphne Caruana Galizia and Ja´n Kuciak. Their deaths affected me deeply, and I call upon the European Union to deliver justice for Daphne and Ja´n and their families. And to deliver rule of law in Malta, one of Mossack Fonseca’s former jurisdictions.

More at https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/panama-papers-whistleblower-spea
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Sunday, July 24, 2022 4:30 PM

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Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.

SECOND: PUTIN! blah blah blah... SIGNY! blah blah blah...

Dood, I can predict with a near-certainty that you will continue to splatter the board with crap and lies.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 5:45 PM

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That doesn't leave much, does it? But when I think about HOW MUCH of the "news" I have to quarantine/shitcan until it's verified, it's an indication of how smothering and all-encompassing the "official narrative"/propaganda has become. It's hard not to get your brain infested with fake news when it's all around you.
Give a few examples of "verified" news about the Ukraine war. Who does verification good enough for Signym?

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Bam, lights out

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 8:50 PM

Somebody needs to turn the lights out in Ukraine.

Oh... wait. Democrats are on it.

They don't want anybody to be able to power anything anymore except for electric cars.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 11:09 PM

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Monday, July 25, 2022 7:25 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SignyM:

Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.

SECOND: PUTIN! blah blah blah... SIGNY! blah blah blah...
Dood, I can predict with a near-certainty that you will continue to splatter the board with crap and lies.

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Signym, there has been a long running joke on you. I told you once before that I was not sincere when I wrote the following:

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SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2

Signym, how could you have been so silly to believe it? Even more ridiculous, you make it part of your Tagline. In case you don't know what that means, my tagline at the top of all my comments (and signature at the bottom) is "The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two "

Signym, if I had told you what I was doing when I made that false apology, you won't have made the apology part of your tagline. But you did as predicted because you are a Troll.

Signym, you are troll. Putin is a troll, too. The Russian government is an enormous trolling operation. For what it is worth, Trump and his Trumptards are trolls. What do trolls do when they communicate? They create new conspiracy theories and reinforce old ones. Examples of conspiracy theories are that Ukraine is ruled by Nazis, Ukraine is Russian land, Russia does not commit war crimes in Ukraine, Trump won. That last one is a Trumptard conspiracy theory and may very well also be a Russian conspiracy theory.

“That is the nature of conspiracy theories. They are immune to evidence. Any evidence against the conspiracy is simply part of the conspiracy. Any missing evidence for the conspiracy is covered up. Everything is a false flag, a deception. This means that you can construct and maintain a conspiracy narrative out of anything - any facts that happen to exist. Conspiracy theories are compatible with any reality, because they just make up ad-hoc explanations for everything within the conspiracy narrative.”
– Dr. Steven Novella

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Monday, July 25, 2022 10:11 AM

Is he a Doctor like Dr. Fauci or a Doctor like Dr.* Jill Biden?

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Monday, July 25, 2022 11:25 AM

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SignyM:

Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.

SECOND: PUTIN! blah blah blah... SIGNY! blah blah blah...

SECOND: Dood, I can predict with a near-certainty that you will continue to splatter the board with crap and lies.

SECOND: Signym, there has been a long running joke on you. I told you once before that I was not sincere when I wrote the following:
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SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2
Signym, how could you have been so silly to believe it?

So, you either lied then, or you're lying now.

You're the very definition of troll.
Also, you threaten people in a weasely way.

I noticed, tho, that you erased your apology shortly after you wrote it. (Yes, I did notice.) The only reason to erase it was because at the time you were afraid that an admission that you had libeled could be used as evidence against you in a lawsuit.

Trust me, we already know that not a single thing you post is to be trusted.
You've discredicted yourself plenty already. You don't have to keep at it.

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The Russian trolls are ranting and raging that google is lies:

Russian-Backed Separatists Block Google Search in Eastern Ukraine

The Russian-backed separatists currently occupying Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine have blocked access to Google's search engine.

As The Guardian reports, Denis Pushilin, leader of the puppet state Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), posted a message on his Telegram channel confirming the block. He claims it was done due to, "The inhuman propaganda of Ukraine and the west has long crossed all boundaries. There is a real persecution of Russians, the imposition of lies and disinformation." He also claims Google "openly, on the orders of its curators from the US government, promotes terrorism and violence against all Russians, and especially the population of Donbas." (Not to editorialize excessively, but Russians falsely accuse the internet of lying and then, for real, the Russians lie their heads off.)

Pushilin goes on to say that access to the search engine will be granted in the region again, "If Google stops pursuing its criminal policy and returns to the mainstream of law, morality and common sense, there will be no obstacles for its work." (The Russians extend the olive branch, but pile more of the same old Russian lies on top.)

Google has yet to comment, but the block follows Russia issuing Google with a $370 million fine for spreading misleading information about the so-called special military operation in Ukraine. It's a fine Google would be unable to pay even if the company wanted to due to sanctions and the Russian government having already seized its bank account in the country leading to Google filing for bankruptcy.

The DPR and neighboring puppet state the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) have already banned Facebook and Instagram, so losing access to Google Search probably comes as no suprise to anyone living in the region or to Google itself.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/russian-backed-separatists-block-google-sea
rch-in-eastern-ukraine

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Monday, July 25, 2022 2:40 PM

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THUGR: Bam, lights out

Ukraine Destroys 50 Russian Ammunition Depots With U.S.-Supplied HIMARS

Ukraine said Monday its military used U.S.-supplied HIMARS rocket systems to destroy 50 Russian ammunition depots, as the weapon continues to bolster Ukrainian forces in their fighting against Russia's military.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-destroys-50-russian-ammun
ition-depots-with-u-s-supplied-himars/ar-AAZWW8B?ocid=msedgntphdr&cvid=15017e663320495d8e500c03f9dc40bd

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Monday, July 25, 2022 5:34 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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THUGR
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Ukraine Destroys 50 Russian Ammunition Depots With U.S.-Supplied HIMARS

Ukraine said

"Verified" by Kiev, of course.
Yeah.
Whatever.
/snicker

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Monday, July 25, 2022 7:29 PM

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THUGR
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Ukraine Destroys 50 Russian Ammunition Depots With U.S.-Supplied HIMARS

Ukraine said

"Verified" by Kiev, of course.
Yeah.
Whatever.
/snicker

Can_you_see_me_laughing?

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Russian war losses: 5 months of bloody onslaught in Ukraine

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Monday, July 25, 2022 7:56 PM

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SignyM:

Wow, the person who [claims to ] shove a virtual thermometer up someonesy online ass thinks OTHERS are mentally ill?

Dood, you're engaging in (off-target) "mind reading", again. Srick with your day job bc you suck at understanding others.
But your posts are very revealing... of you. And not in a good way.

SECOND: PUTIN! blah blah blah... SIGNY! blah blah blah...
Dood, I can predict with a near-certainty that you will continue to splatter the board with crap and lies.

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Monday, July 25, 2022 8:19 PM

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"Verified" by Kiev, of course.
Yeah.
Whatever.
/snicker

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All thanks to Russia, North Korea has maintained its separateness from the World since 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea

"Putin Is Turning Russia Into North Korea" - Michael McFaul (Former Ambassador to Russia) On Russia's Growing Isolation

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Tuesday, July 26, 2022 4:36 AM

Nobody cares.

Also, Stephen Colbert will probably be out of a job soon. Samantha Bee was just cancelled.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2022 8:21 AM

Russian Pilots Have More To Fear As Ukraine’s Gepard Anti-Aircraft Tanks Arrive

The Gepard. Germany pledged to Ukraine 30 of these self-propelled anti-aircraft guns, or SPAAGs. The first copies began arriving this week. “Our capabilities to protect our sky will be strengthened,” Ukrainian defense minister Oleksii Reznikov tweeted.

The Germans, along with the Belgians and Dutch, once deployed hundreds of Gepards. The plan, in wartime, was for the SPAAGs to accompany tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, protecting them from Russian gunship helicopters and Su-25 attack jets flying underneath the radar horizon of longer-range surface-to-air missile batteries.

Most NATO countries disposed of their Gepards and other SPAAGs as the Russian threat seemed to subside in the early 2000s. One exception is Romania, whose 40 ex-German Gepards now comprise a greater part of NATO’s mobile, short-range air-defenses.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-pilots-have-more-to-fear-
as-ukraine-s-gepard-anti-aircraft-tanks-arrive/ar-AAZZjXS?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1f2a183f86184c8e89e8ea1a66265f99

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Tuesday, July 26, 2022 8:23 AM

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Nobody cares.

Also, Stephen Colbert will probably be out of a job soon. Samantha Bee was just cancelled.

6ix, the point has no connection to Stephen Colbert. You missed the point that "Putin Is Turning Russia Into North Korea" - Michael McFaul (Former Ambassador to Russia) On Russia's Growing Isolation.

By the way, there wouldn't be a North Korea if Russia hadn't moved its Army there in 1945, which set off another war to follow after WWII. The Russians could have fought the Japanese for years, yet did nothing. America did all the fighting all by itself. Russia jumped into fighting Japan after it was too late to do any good but there was still time to steal land. Russia stole the Kuril Islands from Japan, same as Russia stole Crimea from Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute

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