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Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:07 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:05 PM
Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:08 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Dan Price @DanPriceSeattle We're seeing now exactly why every big company is fighting against universal health care. Decouple health insurance from work and people are free to quit their bad jobs. If people quit their bad jobs, companies will have to pay living wages to attract workers. Can't have that. 11:08 PM · Dec 4, 2021·Twitter Web App https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1467360176546234373 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Sunday, December 5, 2021 7:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: And yet you're always giving me shit about not working a shitty job. I think you just hate the fact that I'm not a Democrat and I figured it all out before anybody else did.
Sunday, December 5, 2021 7:59 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, December 6, 2021 6:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Low wages are a reflection of "too many people seeking too few jobs" One party (guess which one) welcomes illegal immigrants with open arms. One party (guess which one) actively encouraged companies to offshore production. You're a moron, SECOND.
Monday, December 6, 2021 6:39 AM
Monday, December 6, 2021 7:44 AM
Monday, December 6, 2021 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In remarks to diners at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida on Saturday night, Donald Trump called the American media “crooked ba**ards” and Gen Mark Milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, a “fu**ing idiot”. The meandering, foul-mouthed speech to Turning Point USA, a group for young conservatives, was streamed by Jack Posobiec, a rightwing blogger and provocateur. The insult to the press recalled barbs while Trump was in power, including calling reporters and editors “fake news” and the “enemy of the people”, attacks many in the media regarded as dangerous, inviting political violence. “The country is at a very important, dangerous place,” Trump said, amid familiar lies about his defeat in the 2020 election, which he says was the result of electoral fraud. “We have no press. The press is so corrupt. We don’t have a press. If there is a good story about us, a good story about any of the people that are Republicans, conservatives, they make it a bad story. And if it’s a bad story they make it the worst story in history. It is the most dishonest group of people.”
Monday, December 6, 2021 10:47 AM
Quote:SIGNYM: Low wages are a reflection of "too many people seeking too few jobs" One party (guess which one) welcomes illegal immigrants with open arms. One party (guess which one) actively encouraged companies to offshore production. You're a moron, SECOND. SECOND: There wouldn't be any advantage to employers in hiring illegal immigrants if employers were forced by law to pay a high minimum wage. (I know well which party stands in the way.) The Invisible Hand does not make wage reductions automatic when the population grows. It is not a law, but minimum wages are law, and employers don't want that law changed. Nor would employers hire illegal immigrants if the employers were punished for such hiring. ... and blah blah blah
Monday, December 6, 2021 10:57 AM
Monday, December 6, 2021 12:01 PM
Monday, December 6, 2021 12:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Once word gets out this is happening and it's finally being enforced, businesses will stop hiring illegals of their own accord.
Monday, December 6, 2021 4:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Most illegals have phony papers and/or somebody else's Social Security number.
Quote:They CAN use e-verify (I've used it myself) but that only tells you if the SSN and name match, so it's not foolproof.
Quote:But yeah... construction companies and agricultural firms probably don't even do that much. And people who hire out if the Home Depot parking lot ... well, they know who they're hiring! So it's a matter of enforcement.
Quote:Both parties suck at it.
Quote:AFA freebies to illegals .. one party (guess which one) hands out taxpayer money hand over fist to illegals.
Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:46 AM
Tuesday, December 7, 2021 10:56 AM
Tuesday, December 7, 2021 11:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol... Oh, you still listen to what Maddow has to say? That says far more about you than anything that article said about Trump.
Tuesday, December 7, 2021 11:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol... Oh, you still listen to what Maddow has to say? That says far more about you than anything that article said about Trump.It was Trump who said he would not be President if he had let FBI Director Comey investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump said he instinctively knew he had to fire Comey or else Trump wouldn't finish his 4 years:
Quote:"If I didn't fire him, and some people said, 'He made a mistake when he fired Comey.' And now those same people said it was the most incredible instinctual moves that they've ever seen, because I wouldn't — I might be here with you, perhaps we'll be talking about something else."
Wednesday, December 8, 2021 7:24 AM
Quote: I'm also sick at heart because five years ago, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton put the country on notice that this day could come. While celebrating the Supreme Court's June 27, 2016, decision rejecting two restrictive provisions in a Texas House bill regulating abortion, Clinton warned in a campaign release that the fight for the right to access health care, and for women to make their own decisions about their bodies and their futures, was "far from over." She stated, presciently, "The fact that our next president could appoint as many as three or four justices in the next four years" is a striking reminder "that we can't take rulings like today's for granted." Clinton left no room for speculation. "Just consider Donald Trump, the Republicans' presumptive nominee. The man who could be president has said there should be some form of 'punishment' for women seeking abortions. He pledged to appoint Supreme Court justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade. And last year, he said he'd shut down the government rather than fund Planned Parenthood." And Clinton made clear the consequences. "If we send Trump to the White House and a Republican majority to Congress, he could achieve any — or all — of these things. And that's why this election is so important." "The outcome of November's contests," she declared, "is going to be a deciding factor in whether our elected officials and our courts defend or attack a woman's right to health care for generations to come."
Quote: "At this point it's probably not correct to say it's a conspiracy because it's out in the open," Clinton said. "There is no doubt about who the players are, what they're trying to achieve. ... It's real, and we're going to beat it." ... Referencing GOP financiers like Charles and David Koch, Clinton said the right wing is now "even better funded." "They've brought in some new multibillionaires," she said. "They want to control our country. They want to rig the economy so they can get richer and richer. "They salve their consciences by giving money to philanthropy," Clinton continued, "but make no mistake, they want to destroy unions, they want to go after any economic interest they don't believe they can control."
Quote: In the 1960s, employers could fire women for getting pregnant, women had no legal right to a harassment-free workplace, were charged extra for health insurance, and could be legally raped by their husbands, among other indignities. And this is just the start. Today the Court is hearing a case out of Maine that could require states to pay for the tuition of all students attending religious schools, using taxpayer money that normally funds public schools. This would include forcing states to pay for religious schools that openly discriminate against LGBTQ+ students and staff, and teach children that being gay is a sin. Once Republicans are done with birth control they'll be coming for gay marriage and, ultimately, broader civil rights laws themselves including, like in Hungary (their new role model), ending the rights to assembly, free-speech, and due process. And if you think that's an over-the-top concern, consider: Just a few months ago, Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law that provides immunity to drivers who plow their cars into protesters, if those protesters are on a public street. They're already going after our right of public assembly. Winter is coming: next stop, Gilead.
Wednesday, December 8, 2021 10:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol... Oh, you still listen to what Maddow has to say? That says far more about you than anything that article said about Trump.It was Trump who said he would not be President if he had let FBI Director Comey investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump said he instinctively knew he had to fire Comey or else Trump wouldn't finish his 4 years: Did he now? Let's see your evidence... Quote:"If I didn't fire him, and some people said, 'He made a mistake when he fired Comey.' And now those same people said it was the most incredible instinctual moves that they've ever seen, because I wouldn't — I might be here with you, perhaps we'll be talking about something else."
Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:44 AM
Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Where Have All the Grown-ups Gone?
Thursday, December 9, 2021 1:54 PM
Friday, December 10, 2021 6:08 AM
Quote: Our study was motivated by a highly disturbing puzzle. Confronted with a deadly global pandemic that threatened not only massive loss of life but also the collapse of our medical system and economy, why were we unable to put partisan divisions aside and unite in a common cause, similar to the national mobilization in the Great Depression and the Second World War? We used a computational model to search for an answer in the phase transitions of political polarization. The model reveals asymmetric hysteresis trajectories with tipping points that are hard to predict and that make polarization extremely difficult to reverse once the level exceeds a critical value.
Friday, December 10, 2021 10:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Democrats have slit their own throats Neutral commission maps in the blue states of CA, CO, NJ, VA and WA (93 seats total) will end up costing Dems 10-15 House seats they could have seized by gerrymandering, making Republicans even stronger favorites for House control. https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1468986740618797070 Nonpartisan commissions draw House of Representative district boundaries that treat Democrats and Republicans equally. But no state controlled by Republicans has ever created a truly nonpartisan redistricting commission. In nearly every red state, the legislature controls district maps and gerrymanders them as ruthlessly as they can. There are a couple of blue states that also do this, but not many. The end result is that blue states tend to draw maps fairly while red states draw maps that heavily favor Republicans. On the bright side, Democrats can all feel good about themselves for being so dedicated to fair voting. On the down side, Democrats will lose the House of Representatives because of this. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, December 10, 2021 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: When a shared national crisis can’t bring people together (Pearl Harbor, say, or a pandemic), a society may have passed the point of no return. Quote: Our study was motivated by a highly disturbing puzzle. Confronted with a deadly global pandemic that threatened not only massive loss of life but also the collapse of our medical system and economy, why were we unable to put partisan divisions aside and unite in a common cause, similar to the national mobilization in the Great Depression and the Second World War?
Quote: Our study was motivated by a highly disturbing puzzle. Confronted with a deadly global pandemic that threatened not only massive loss of life but also the collapse of our medical system and economy, why were we unable to put partisan divisions aside and unite in a common cause, similar to the national mobilization in the Great Depression and the Second World War?
Friday, December 10, 2021 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: When a shared national crisis can’t bring people together (Pearl Harbor, say, or a pandemic), a society may have passed the point of no return. Quote: Our study was motivated by a highly disturbing puzzle. Confronted with a deadly global pandemic that threatened not only massive loss of life but also the collapse of our medical system and economy, why were we unable to put partisan divisions aside and unite in a common cause, similar to the national mobilization in the Great Depression and the Second World War? Bullshit. Nobody is dying. Even if we use the bullshit numbers up on Johns Hospkins, the amount of people dying of Covid is so tiny that even when added up with all other causes of deaths it's not even putting a dent in the birth rate. Get back to me when Covid-20 gets unleashed by Fauci and the Chinese and we're looking at a net negative of -10% or more to the population count year over year.
Friday, December 10, 2021 11:36 AM
Saturday, December 11, 2021 8:42 AM
Saturday, December 11, 2021 10:12 AM
Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: BAN STORYTELLING!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Not that I think you can understand
Quote:Originally posted by second: Nazis, Germans, Nazis, Nazis, Nazis...
Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:14 PM
Saturday, December 11, 2021 8:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: It is excellent that you mentioned Hitler, 6ix.
Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: It is excellent that you mentioned Hitler, 6ix. No. YOU mentioned Hitler, you fuckin' goon. You're only one IQ point smarter than Ted who would have actually said his name. Nobody cares about your incorrect opinions on anything, little boy.
Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:54 AM
Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: If you are a Republican who believes Republicans are protecting Democracy, I have news for you. There are Republican documents that say Republicans are in the business of stealing Democracy.
Sunday, December 12, 2021 9:26 AM
Sunday, December 12, 2021 10:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: But in this case, his urgent request was largely ignored by the justices on the court who were appointed by Trump.
Monday, December 13, 2021 5:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Conjecture.
Monday, December 13, 2021 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Conjecture.Not so, 6ix. The chief justice said that five Republican justices made a mockery of the constitution when they took away long held rights of citizens. See page 35 of https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-463_3ebh.pdf
Monday, December 13, 2021 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Conjecture.Not so, 6ix. The chief justice said that five Republican justices made a mockery of the constitution when they took away long held rights of citizens. See page 35 of https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-463_3ebh.pdf] He doesn't mention anything that you just said he did on page 35. In fact, I read his entire Opinion, and he doesn't once mention any of the justices. And WTF are you talking about when you say "they took away long held rights of citizens"? Explain yourself. Otherwise, pure conjecture.
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Conjecture.Not so, 6ix. The chief justice said that five Republican justices made a mockery of the constitution when they took away long held rights of citizens. See page 35 of https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-463_3ebh.pdf] He doesn't mention anything that you just said he did on page 35. In fact, I read his entire Opinion, and he doesn't once mention any of the justices. And WTF are you talking about when you say "they took away long held rights of citizens"? Explain yourself. Otherwise, pure conjecture.
Monday, December 13, 2021 11:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Conjecture.Not so, 6ix. The chief justice said that five Republican justices made a mockery of the constitution when they took away long held rights of citizens. See page 35 of https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-463_3ebh.pdf] He doesn't mention anything that you just said he did on page 35. In fact, I read his entire Opinion, and he doesn't once mention any of the justices. And WTF are you talking about when you say "they took away long held rights of citizens"? Explain yourself. Otherwise, pure conjecture. Each one of Trump's Supreme Court nominees was asked about Roe v Wade because the case would be litigated again since Trump said he wanted the decision changed. The Democrats wanted to know the nominees' answers. Short version of their answers, each of Trump's nominees lied in order to get on the Supreme Court and do what Trump wanted. The chief justice of the Supreme Court knew what they answered. The chief justice also read those nominees', now judges, opinion before he wrote his reply saying they made a mockery of the Constitution. The chief justice might have seemed polite, because he was quoting Marbury v. Madison (1803), but he was damning Trump's nominees for what they did. In Marbury v. Madison, decided in 1803, the Supreme Court, for the first time, struck down an act of Congress as unconstitutional. This decision created the doctrine of judicial review and set up the Supreme Court of the United States as chief interpreter of the Constitution. Until Marbury v. Madison, there were people saying the Supreme Court cannot possibly overturn legislation because it was not explicitly granted that power by the Constitution. I speculate, a synonym for conjecture, a word frequently used by 6ix, that 6ix would have been one of those people saying it is not possible and saying the decision in Marbury v. Madison was itself unconstitutional. 6ix is one of those people who cannot possibly understand what they don't want to understand. There are far too many Americans who are the same way. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote: 6ix is one of those people who cannot possibly understand what they don't want to understand.
Quote:There are far too many Americans who are the same way.
Monday, December 13, 2021 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: -------------------------------------------------- Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
Monday, December 13, 2021 6:25 PM
Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:28 AM
Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:36 AM
Tuesday, December 14, 2021 2:09 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by second: How big is the rich-poor divide across the globe? In terms of dollars, someone in the global top 10% earns $122,000 a year on average, while a person in the poorest half makes around $3,900. Is inequality about income or wealth? Both. In terms of dollars, people in the lower half own about $4,100 in net assets on average, compared with $771,000 on average for those in the top 10%. https://news.yahoo.com/big-rich-poor-divide-across-140022303.html Authors of the newly released World Inequality Database study claim it represents the "most up-to-date synthesis of international research efforts to track global inequalities." https://wid.world/country/usa/ https://wid.world/income-comparator https://wid.world/news-article/world-inequality-report-2022/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, December 15, 2021 10:54 AM
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