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Friday, September 3, 2021 5:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with Jobs Report data from August 6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1

Jan 2002 is listed twice. First with original report data from February 2002. Second with revised data from new Census data, published in February 2003.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Jan98 07069 05.2% 5026 3.7% 12095 08.9% 4090 3.0% 16185 11.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 04.8% 4800 3.5% 11404 08.3% 3645 2.6% 15049 10.9% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 04.5% 4354 3.1% 10670 07.6% 3355 2.4% 14025 10.0% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 04.7% 4474 3.2% 11121 07.9% 3559 2.5% 14680 10.4% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 06.3% 4872 3.5% 13807 09.8% 4249 3.0% 18056 12.8% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 06.3% 4938 3.4% 13989 09.8% 4453 3.1% 18442 12.9% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 06.5% 4779 3.3% 14174 09.8% 5003 3.4% 19177 13.2% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 06.3% 4913 3.4% 14057 09.6% 5152 3.5% 19209 13.2% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 05.7% 5136 3.5% 13580 09.2% 4793 3.3% 18373 12.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 05.1% 5095 3.4% 12703 08.5% 4513 3.0% 17216 11.5% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 05.0% 4633 3.0% 12282 08.1% 4620 3.0% 16902 11.1% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Jan19 07140 04.4% 5435 3.4% 12575 07.8% 5543 3.4% 18118 11.2% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Jan20 06504 04.0% 5107 3.1% 11611 07.1% 4605 2.8% 16216 09.9% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Jan21 10851 06.8% 7129 4.5% 17980 11.3% 6284 3.9% 24264 15.2% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0


Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 04.2% 5654 3.5% 12466 07.6% 4974 3.0% 17440 10.7% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul18 06730 04.1% 5483 3.3% 12213 07.5% 4701 2.9% 16914 10.3% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Aug18 06370 03.9% 5534 3.4% 11904 07.3% 4263 2.6% 16167 09.9% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Sep18 05766 03.6% 5070 3.1% 10836 06.7% 4238 2.6% 15074 09.3% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oct18 05771 03.5% 5048 3.1% 10819 06.6% 4169 2.6% 14988 09.2% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0
Nov18 05650 03.5% 5060 3.1% 10710 06.6% 4512 2.8% 15222 09.4% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dec18 06029 03.7% 5121 3.1% 11150 06.8% 4621 2.8% 15771 09.6% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Jan19 07140 04.4% 5435 3.4% 12575 07.8% 5543 3.4% 18118 11.2% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Feb19 06625 04.1% 5196 3.2% 11821 07.3% 4477 2.8% 16298 10.0% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mar19 06382 03.9% 4887 3.0% 11269 06.9% 4548 2.8% 15817 09.7% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Apr19 05387 03.3% 4951 3.1% 10338 06.4% 4424 2.7% 14762 09.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
May19 05503 03.4% 5500 3.4% 11003 06.8% 4070 2.5% 15073 09.3% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jun19 06292 03.8% 5725 3.5% 12017 07.3% 4529 2.8% 16546 10.1% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jul19 06556 04.0% 5289 3.2% 11845 07.2% 4017 2.4% 15862 09.6% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Aug19 06203 03.8% 5331 3.3% 11534 07.0% 4237 2.6% 15771 09.6% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Sep19 05465 03.3% 4637 2.8% 10102 06.2% 3925 2.4% 14027 08.6% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oct19 05510 03.3% 4412 2.7% 09922 06.0% 3961 2.4% 13883 08.4% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nov19 05441 03.3% 4515 2.7% 09956 06.1% 4053 2.5% 14009 08.5% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dec19 05503 03.4% 4643 2.8% 10146 06.2% 4170 2.5% 14316 08.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Jan20 06504 04.0% 5107 3.1% 11611 07.1% 4605 2.8% 16216 09.9% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Feb20 06218 03.8% 4973 3.0% 11191 06.8% 4501 2.7% 15692 09.5% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mar20 07370 04.5% 5215 3.2% 12585 07.7% 5788 3.6% 18373 11.3% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Apr20 22504 14.4% 9761 6.3% 32265 20.7 10524 6.8% 32789 21.0% 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
May20 20514 13.0% 9422 6.0% 29936 18.9 10286 6.5% 40222 25.5% 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jun20 18072 11.2% 8633 5.4% 26705 16.6% 9210 5.7% 35915 22.3% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jul20 16882 10.5% 8003 5.0% 24885 15.4% 8521 5.3% 33406 20.7% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Aug20 13742 08.5% 7184 4.5% 20926 13.0% 7387 4.6% 28313 17.6% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Sep20 12277 07.7% 6984 4.4% 19261 12.0% 5901 3.7% 25162 15.7% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oct20 10620 06.6% 6317 3.9% 16937 10.5% 6237 3.9% 23174 14.4% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
Nov20 10264 06.4% 6791 4.2% 17055 10.6% 6423 4.0% 23478 14.6% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dec20 10404 06.5% 7088 4.4% 17492 10.9% 6133 3.8% 23625 14.8% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Jan21 10851 06.8% 7129 4.5% 17980 11.3% 6284 3.9% 24264 15.2% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Feb21 10486 06.6% 6902 4.3% 17388 10.9% 6199 3.9% 23587 14.7% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mar21 09905 06.2% 6576 4.1% 16481 10.3% 5859 3.7% 22340 13.9% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Apr21 09220 05.7% 6466 4.0% 15686 09.8% 4968 3.1% 20654 12.9% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
May21 08829 05.5% 7087 4.4% 15916 09.9% 5016 3.1% 20932 13.0% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jun21 09883 06.1% 6869 4.2% 16752 10.3% 4776 2.9% 21528 13.3% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jul21 09221 05.7% 6818 4.2% 16039 09.9% 4526 2.8% 20565 12.6% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Aug21 08556 05.3% 5810 3.6% 14366 08.9% 4309 2.7% 18675 11.5% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9



Jul12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9
Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6

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General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

Well, it looks like the current U6 right now is lower than every January of the past 24 years, since the creation of U-6, according to BLS figures.

From 2009 to 2017, the Civilian noninstitutional Population grew by 19.343 Million. With a nominal post-9/11 Labor Participation Rate of 66%, the Labor Force would have grown by 12.766 Million. But Obama's Deep State reported that the Labor Force only grew by 5.231 Million. Labor Force is defined as all Employed + all Unemployed. So Obama would have you believe that during his 8 years, 7.5 Million extra Employ-eligible population were NOT unemployed (nor employed).



Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

For July 2019:
The Involuntary Part-time percent matched the lowest rate on the table, from 2000. And the Participation Rate hit another high point following Obama.

July and August both have the highest number of Employed in history.
For September 2019, practically the best numbers in all categories.


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Friday, September 3, 2021 5:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.


Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unemp Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pct InvPT Pct Total Pcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0


Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jn18 06812 04.2 1437 0.9 08249 05.1 4974 3.0 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jl18 06730 04.1 1498 0.9 08228 05.0 4701 2.9 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Au18 06370 03.9 1443 0.9 07813 04.8 4263 2.6 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Se18 05766 03.6 1577 1.0 07343 04.5 4238 2.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oc18 05771 03.5 1491 0.9 07262 04.5 4169 2.6 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0
Nv18 05650 03.5 1678 1.0 07328 04.5 4512 2.8 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dc18 06029 03.7 1556 0.9 07585 04.6 4621 2.8 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Fe19 06625 04.1 1424 0.9 08049 04.9 4477 2.8 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mr19 06382 03.9 1357 0.8 07739 04.8 4548 2.8 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Ap19 05387 03.3 1417 0.9 06804 04.2 4424 2.7 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
My19 05503 03.4 1395 0.9 06898 04.2 4070 2.5 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jn19 06292 03.8 1571 1.0 07863 04.8 4529 2.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jl19 06556 04.0 1478 0.9 08034 04.9 4017 2.4 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Au19 06203 03.8 1564 1.0 07767 04.7 4237 2.6 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Se19 05465 03.3 1299 0.8 06764 04.1 3925 2.4 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oc19 05510 03.3 1229 0.7 06739 04.1 3961 2.4 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nv19 05441 03.3 1246 0.8 06687 04.1 4053 2.5 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dc19 05503 03.4 1246 0.8 06749 04.1 4170 2.5 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Fe20 06218 03.8 1494 0.9 07712 04.7 4501 2.7 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mr20 07370 04.5 1380 0.8 08750 05.4 5788 3.6 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Ap20 22504 14.4 2211 1.4 24715 15.9 10524 6.8 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
My20 20514 13.0 2292 1.5 22806 14.4 10286 6.5 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jn20 18072 11.2 2486 1.5 20558 12.8 9210 5.7 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jl20 16882 10.5 2027 1.3 18909 11.7 8521 5.3 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Au20 13742 08.5 2083 1.3 15825 09.8 7387 4.6 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Se20 12277 07.7 1921 1.2 14199 08.9 5901 3.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oc20 10620 06.6 1923 1.2 12543 07.8 6237 3.9 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
No20 10264 06.4 2068 1.3 12332 07.7 6423 4.0 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dc20 10404 06.5 2197 1.4 12601 07.9 6133 3.8 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Fe21 10486 06.6 1942 1.2 12428 07.8 6199 3.9 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mr21 09905 06.2 1783 1.1 11688 07.3 5859 3.7 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Ap21 09220 05.7 1763 1.1 10983 06.8 4968 3.1 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
My21 08829 05.5 1872 1.2 10701 06.7 5016 3.1 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jn21 09883 06.1 1856 1.1 11739 07.2 4776 2.9 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jl21 09221 05.7 1923 1.2 11144 06.8 4526 2.8 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Au21 08556 05.3 1558 1.0 10114 06.3 4309 2.7 14423 07.1 261611 161788 61.8 08.9



Jl12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.
For March 2019, the Marginally Attached raw count is the lowest since Jan 2001, and the percentage of 0.8 is the lowest on the table.
Comparing to March 2018, the U-3 is 0.2% less, the Marginally Attached is 0.1% less, the Involuntary Part-Time is 0.3% less, and the U-6 is 0.6% less.
Most of the time, the April U-6 drops about 0.8%, so next month we'll likely see record low numbers across the board.
For April 2021, BLS admits that March had 636,000 unemployed counted as employed, and in April had 1,200,000 unemployed counted as employed.


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This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force.

The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0
Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1
Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0



Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Feb17 07887 1723 5700 15310 09.6 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5
Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9
Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1
My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1
Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9
Jul17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9
Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6
Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0
Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6
Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7
Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0

Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul18 06730 1498 4701 12929 07.9 11431 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Aug18 06370 1443 4263 12076 07.4 10633 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Sep18 05766 1577 4238 11581 07.2 10004 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oct18 05771 1491 4169 11431 07.0 09940 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0

Nov18 05650 1678 4512 11840 07.3 10162 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dec18 06029 1556 4621 12206 07.4 10650 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Feb19 06625 1424 4477 12526 07.7 11102 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mar19 06382 1357 4548 12287 07.5 10930 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Apr19 05387 1417 4424 11228 06.9 09811 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
May19 05503 1395 4070 10968 06.7 09573 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jun19 06292 1571 4529 12391 07.5 10820 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jul19 06556 1478 4017 12051 07.3 10573 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Aug19 06203 1564 4237 12004 07.3 10440 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Sep19 05465 1299 3925 10689 06.5 09390 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oct19 05510 1229 3961 10700 06.5 09471 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nov19 05441 1246 4053 10740 06.5 09494 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dec19 05503 1246 4170 10919 06.7 09673 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Feb20 06218 1494 4501 12213 07.4 10719 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mar20 07370 1380 5788 14538 08.9 13158 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Apr20 22504 2211 10524 35239 22.6 33028 122802 52.7 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
May20 20514 2292 10286 33092 20.9 30800 127175 51.1 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jun20 18072 2486 9210 29768 18.5 27282 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jul20 16882 2027 8521 27430 17.0 25403 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Aug20 13742 2083 7387 23212 14.4 21129 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Sep20 12277 1921 5901 20099 12.6 18178 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oct20 10620 1923 6237 18780 11.7 16857 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
Nov20 10264 2068 6423 18755 11.7 16687 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dec20 10404 2197 6133 18732 11.7 16537 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Feb21 10486 1942 6199 19743 12.3 16685 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mar21 09905 1783 5859 17547 10.9 15764 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Apr21 09220 1763 4968 15951 09.9 14188 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
May21 08829 1872 5016 15717 09.8 13845 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jun21 09883 1856 4776 16515 10.2 14659 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jul21 09221 1923 4526 15670 09.6 13747 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Aug21 08556 1558 4309 14423 07.1 12865 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9


Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%


Jul12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7
Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6
Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8
Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.


The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

One comparison of note for July 2018: in the past 2 months (since schools were in session), the Labor Force has increased by almost 2 million, but the sums of Unemployed and Involuntary Part-time have only increased 1.1 million. This means that about 900,000 of fresh schooling products have been absorbed by the demand from employers, in only 2 months.
For February 2019, not much spectacular is shown. Mostly a return of most figures to the trends present in the December figures, which were prior to the Pelosi Shutdown of Government.
Of some interest is that this indicates that the January U-6 figure without the Pelosi Shutdown would have been about 8.0%. Since I had chosen to use January as the annual snapshot representation of all the years, this leaves this one year a blip out of context. All other Januarys have similar situations and templates, and 2019 has no similar comparison.
This 8.0% realistic comparison figure would have been the 2nd best on the table, behind 7.8% in 2000.
One thing I had not continued to noticed before. After Obamanomics was able to get the total of Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time higher than the U-3 Unemployment Rate by Jan 2016, Trump was able to keep that balance reversed until Oct 2018, except for Dec 2017. The U-3 is the larger, more stable and consistent of all the subcomponents of the U-6, and the other 2 are just bloated from Obamanomics.
Following the 2018 Midterm Elections, this balanced switched again for Nov, Dec, Jan. But now for Feb and March, the balance is restored and the subtotal is lower than the Unemployment Rate.

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The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database.
However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about.
There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures.

The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate.




I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5


I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.


The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure.
The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation
Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3%
Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5%
Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7%
Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6%
Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7%
Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0%
Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2%
Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4%
Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%

Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%
Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0%
Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1%
Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8%
Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8%
Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9%
Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1%
Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6%
Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0%
Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2%
Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3%
Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6%
Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10%
Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5%
Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5%
Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9%
Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%
Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0%
Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3%
Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7%



Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%
Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3%
Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7%
Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1%
My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1%
Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4%
J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4%
Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8%
Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2%
Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2%
Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2%
Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9%

Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0%
Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4%
Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7%
Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3%
My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4%
Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7%
J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7%
Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9%
Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4%
Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5%
Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4%
Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1%

Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3%
Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7%
Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0%
Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9%
My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8%
Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9%
J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2%
Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7%
Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5%
Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7%
No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7%

De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6%

Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7%
Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2%
Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8%
Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6%
My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3%
Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7%
J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8%
Au21 08556 05.3 14423 07.1 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5%


J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


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Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession.
It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work.


The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.


The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
The Shadowstats figure for Jan 2019 shows the difference (bloat) is less than the prior Jan figure, for the first time since 2010.
So I assume this would mean that the bloat of Long-term Unemployed is being chipped away by Trump. Either by re-employment or transition to Retirement age, or both.
But this extra 9% of the Population that Obamanomics forced to Unemployment can now be whittled away and not expanded by default, only by actions such as the 2018 Elections.
For September 2019, even Shadowstats begrudgingly dropped below 21% for the first time since 2009.
Wow. For Dec 2019, even Shadow Stats has dropped to it's lowest figure in years. Next month could mark a 10-year low.


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Friday, September 3, 2021 5:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This Table of Data, which breaks down the numerical changes in the key figures.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-6

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.


The 1st column is Labor Force minus both Unemployed and Involuntary Part-Time. This is also Employed minus Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 2nd column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 3rd column is the Civilian Population. 4th column is Labor Force, 5th column is Participation Rate.

After the separation bar, the 7th column is the Increase in Civilian Population from the previous entry. For the entries by year, this is the 12 month Increase. For the entries broken down by month, this is the 1 month Increase.
The 8th column is the Increase in Labor Force from the previous entry.
The 9th column is the Increase in Actually Fully Employed count, from the previous entry.

In the monthly breakdown for 2018, after the second separation bar, the 10th column is the Civilian Population Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 11th column is the Labor Force Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 12th column is the Actually Fully Employed Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 13th column is the amount that the 12th column exceeds the 10th column, or the amount of Unemployed that is being chipped away, despite manipulation of other figures.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc
Jan94 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0% |
Jan95 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1% | 1800 1305 02985/+1185
Jan96 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8% | 1881 0698 01100/-0781
Jan97 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4% | 2651 2921 03023/+0372
Jan98 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6% | 1953 1634 02752/+0799
Jan99 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7% | 2481 1992 02896/+0415
Jan00 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9% | 2063 1678 02256/+0193
Jan01 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9% | 2107 1428 00893/-1214
Jan02 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2% | 2200 0025 -2953/-5153

Jan02 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2% | 5617 2179 -1119/-6736
Jan03 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1% | 3391 2073 01179/-2212
Jan04 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7% | 2264 0767 00869/-1395
Jan05 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4% | 2676 1057 02116/-0560
Jan06 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5% | 2716 1965 03090/+0374
Jan07 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9% | 3097 2834 02677/-0420
Jan08 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7% | 1966 0904 -0283/-2249
Jan09 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4% | 2123 0617 -7611/-9734
Jan10 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6% | 2093 -488 -4112/-6205
Jan11 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9% | 1872 -421 00923/-0949
Jan12 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4% | 3565 0949 02625/-0940
Jan13 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3% | 2394 1309 01910/-0484
Jan14 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5% | 2252 -413 02802/+0550
Jan15 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5% | 2808 1669 03518/+0710
Jan16 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3% | 2664 1297 03377/+0713
Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% | 1685 1329 01596/-0089
Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 2698 1361 03068/+0370
Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% | 1459 2067 01953/+0494
Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% | 1263 1393 02967/+1704
Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% | 1349 -4263 -12235/-13584



Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% |
Feb17 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7% | 164 00806 01495
Mar17 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9% | 168 00430 01230
Apr17 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8% | 174 -0095 00147
My 17 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8% | 179 00162 00141
Jun17 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3% | 190 01358 00119
Jul17 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5% | 194 00574 00508
Aug17 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0% | 206 -1048 -0594
Sep17 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0% | 205 00186 01307
Oct17 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7% | 204 -0584 -0026
Nov17 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7% | 183 00001 -0101
Dec17 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4% | 160 -0586 -1016

Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 671 00157 -1142 | 2698 1361 3068 +370
Feb18 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9% | 154 01457 01694 | 2688 2012 3267 +579
Mar18 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8% | 163 00054 00740 | 2681 1636 2777 +096
Apr18 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7% | 175 -0268 00815 | 2684 1463 2445 -239
My 18 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8% | 182 00485 00714 | 2687 1786 3028 +341
Jun18 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4% | 188 01512 00060 | 2685 1940 2959 +274
Jul18 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5% | 201 00457 00812 | 2692 1823 3262 +570
Aug18 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7% | 223 -1825 -1027 | 2709 1046 2830 +121
Sep18 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7% | 224 00049 00678 | 2341 0909 2201 -140
Oct18 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9% | 224 00765 00829 | 2748 2218 3056 +308
Nov18 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9% | 194 -0058 -0280 | 2759 2199 2877 +118
Dec18 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8% | 180 -0155 -0643 | 2779 2630 3250 +471

Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% |-649 -0406 -2439 | 1459 2067 1953 +494
Feb19 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0% | 153 00689 02270 | 1458 1299 2529 1071
Mar19 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0% | 145 00030 00202 | 1440 1275 1991 +551
Apr19 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7% | 156 -0726 00393 | 1421 0817 1569 +148
May19 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8% | 168 00558 00796 | 1407 0890 1651 +244
Jun19 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4% | 176 01465 00218 | 1395 0843 1809 +414
Jul19 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6% | 188 00821 01068 | 1382 1207 2065 +683
Aug19 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2% | 207 -0922 -0789 | 1366 2110 2303 +937
Sep19 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1% | 216 -0076 00974 | 1348 1985 2599 1251
Oct19 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3% | 207 00633 00919 | 1331 1853 2689 1358
Nov19 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2% | 175 -0190 -0580 | 1312 1721 2389 1077
Dec19 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0% | 161 -0379 -0558 | 1293 1493 2474 1181

Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% |-679 -0510 -1946 | 1263 1393 2967 1704
Feb20 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3% | 126 00738 01128 | 1236 1442 1845 +609
Mar20 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6% | 130 -1698 -4127 | 1221 -286 -2504
Apr20 122802 52.7% 259896 155830 60.0% | 138 -6707 -26587 | 1203 -6267 -29494
May20 127175 51.1% 260047 157975 60.7% | 151 02145 04373 | 1186 -4680 -25907
Jun20 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8% | 157 02908 06426 | 1167 -4058 -19699
Jul20 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0% | 169 00491 02370 | 1148 -3567 -18397
Aug20 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8% | 185 -0408 03834 | 1126 -3053 -13742
Sep20 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4% | 184 -0893 02058 | 1104 -3870 -12658
Oct20 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7% | 183 00980 02301 | 1080 -3523 -11276
Nov20 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5% | 160 -0585 -0415 | 1065 -3918 -11111

Dec20 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3% | 145 -0451 -0301 | 1049 -3990 -10854

Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% |-379 -0783 -1381 | 1349 -4263 -12235
Feb21 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3% | 067 00774 01224 | 1290 -4227 -10193
Mar21 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5% | 085 00389 01310 | 1245 -2140 -4756(-7260)
Apr21 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4% | 100 -0018 01558 | 1207 4549 23389(-6105)
May21 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5% | 107 00228 00571 | 1163 2632 19587(-6320)
Jun21 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1% | 128 01560 00746 | 1134 1284 13907(-5792)
Jul21 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3% | 131 00650 01562 | 1096 1443 13099(-5298)
Aug21 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8% | 142 -1029 -0147 | 1053 0822 9086(-4656)



Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc | CPIn LFIn AEInc
Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | \SincLastMonth/ | \SinceLastYear/


Jul12 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3 |
Aug12 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 | 212 -1271 -0072
Sep12 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 | 206 -0180 00494
Oct12 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 | 211 00704 00940
Nov12 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 | 191 -1174 -0619

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The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. Except possibly 2010, 2011, 2016.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 2nd column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

I am really impressed with how well this Table 6 presents the data.

The problem of data manipulation is driven by the desire for Fake Headlines. I have attempted to circumvent the Fake Data by looking at it in a way which avoids the manipulations.
I don't feel the Civilian noninstitutional Population is easily manipulated or faked, and I have not heard claims of such. This could be thought of as birthing rates, just delayed by 16-18 years until chillen are job-ready.
I also don't feel that the count of who is actually Employed is being consistently faked or manipulated - what would be the point of any of that? Both Full-Time and Voluntary Part-Time would apply here. Why would either employers or employees lie about that?
The figure which is fiddled and manipulated mostly seems to be how many are "Unemployed" and, therefore, the "Labor Force" figure. I do not argue that. But this Table presents data circumventing that manipulation.
Other manipulating and faking occur with "Seasonally Adjusted" counts and calculations, which the Shadow Stats site comments on a lot. I have been avoiding these numbers in this thread, using only non-adjusted figures. However, this does allow fluctuations of different months and seasons to show up, and can be more difficult to filter and interpret, and interpolate.

For the yearly January counts, the table shows the Increase of the Civilian Population, and also the Increase of the Actually Fully Employed, compared to the count 12 months prior.
For the monthly breakdowns, the first sets show the Increase from the month before.
But for the breakdown of 2018 months, the second sets show the Increase from the prior same month, 12 months before. This is a figure which ignores Seasonal variations, because last year the same month was in the same season. Also, these figures can be compared to the historical trend, because all of these figures are on a 12-month scale.

By this method, we can clearly see that in the past 12 months, only 2 months (April and September) had an Increase in Actually Fully Employed which was less than the Increase in Civilian Population.
This shows that for 10 of the months, the AE Increase was greater than the CivPop Increase! Meaning that for every single fresh newly added Civilian, there was a job to absorb them, AND also additional jobs to suck out more workers from the "Unemployed" cloud, no matter how they were categorized. That means that the job growth is certainly chipping away at the portion of Labor Force which is non Employed, or not Fully Employed.
To be clear: to maintain Par, the Actually Fully Employed Increase would only need to keep pace with the Increase of Labor Force - which is less than 2/3 of the Civilian Population. But the AE Inc is not only blowing past that Par figure, it is even exceeding the raw count of the full Civilian noninstitutional Population Increase! In February and July it was a half million more, even with a reportedly tight labor market.
This is seen as the last column being a greater number than the third-to-last column.

And even the stated Labor Force Increase over 12 months prior (second to last column) is a positive number every month this year, no losses.

I hope this makes sense.
I am certainly interested in hearing valid arguments about how or why this is not a clear presentation of the data.

This does help show a consistent trend for the year, and can predict that next month (Jan 2019) will show an improvement in the Labor Force Participation Rate, about 0.5% higher than January 2018.

I guess that last statement could be considered a prediction, which was proven True.
For March 2019: from Jan 2018 to Jan 2019 the Actual Fully Employed figure increased by almost a half million beyond the total increase in Civilian noninstitutional Population. Meaning not only every additional person added to the available Population, but an additional half million who were previously in an unemployed or underemployed category.
For the months Jan-Mar 2018, the average was 348,000 (compared to the same month, prior year).
For the months Jan-Mar 2019, the average is 705,000.
For April 2019: For the months Jan-Apr 2018, the average was 202,000.
For the months Jan-Apr 2019, the average was 566,000.
For June 2019, that final column shows 9 consecutive months without a negative.
The average for that figure from Jan-Jun 2018 was 274, and same for 2019 is 487. At this pace, it seems that by Aug or Sep the Involutary Part-Time will be lower than any January figure, and the Not Fully Employed will be the lowest since the start of the Rock-The-Vote Recession, and the U6 will be even lower than the past few months.
September 2019: that last column, not only is the highest margin of additionally employed on the chart (while last September was a negative), but also marks 12 consecutive months of plusses, no negatives for any month. And this shows the increase of Actually Fully Employed is almost twice the amount that the Civilian Population increased. That is why the Labor Participation Rate is hovering around 1/2 percent better than the preceeding year.
For August 2020, that last column shows that more than half of the lost jobs have been recovered.
For Mar 2021, The disaster of Lord Darth Obiden has finally managed to get the Not Fully Employed percent down to what Trump achieved by last October. But the Participation rate is still not up to the level Trump had last October. And keeping the Labor Force artificially depressed.

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Friday, September 3, 2021 5:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Looks like in the next few months, the Civ Pop increase will drop below 1 million per year. 20 years ago the increase was 2-3 times that.

And the Shadow Stats bloat is cranking up, just like Obamination did.

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Friday, September 3, 2021 5:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That's alright.

The Democrats will just import more invaders and terrorists to make up for it.

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Friday, October 8, 2021 4:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with Jobs Report data from August 6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1

Jan 2002 is listed twice. First with original report data from February 2002. Second with revised data from new Census data, published in February 2003.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Jan98 07069 05.2% 5026 3.7% 12095 08.9% 4090 3.0% 16185 11.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 04.8% 4800 3.5% 11404 08.3% 3645 2.6% 15049 10.9% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 04.5% 4354 3.1% 10670 07.6% 3355 2.4% 14025 10.0% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 04.7% 4474 3.2% 11121 07.9% 3559 2.5% 14680 10.4% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 06.3% 4872 3.5% 13807 09.8% 4249 3.0% 18056 12.8% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 06.3% 4938 3.4% 13989 09.8% 4453 3.1% 18442 12.9% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 06.5% 4779 3.3% 14174 09.8% 5003 3.4% 19177 13.2% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 06.3% 4913 3.4% 14057 09.6% 5152 3.5% 19209 13.2% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 05.7% 5136 3.5% 13580 09.2% 4793 3.3% 18373 12.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 05.1% 5095 3.4% 12703 08.5% 4513 3.0% 17216 11.5% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 05.0% 4633 3.0% 12282 08.1% 4620 3.0% 16902 11.1% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Jan19 07140 04.4% 5435 3.4% 12575 07.8% 5543 3.4% 18118 11.2% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Jan20 06504 04.0% 5107 3.1% 11611 07.1% 4605 2.8% 16216 09.9% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Jan21 10851 06.8% 7129 4.5% 17980 11.3% 6284 3.9% 24264 15.2% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0


Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 04.2% 5654 3.5% 12466 07.6% 4974 3.0% 17440 10.7% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul18 06730 04.1% 5483 3.3% 12213 07.5% 4701 2.9% 16914 10.3% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Aug18 06370 03.9% 5534 3.4% 11904 07.3% 4263 2.6% 16167 09.9% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Sep18 05766 03.6% 5070 3.1% 10836 06.7% 4238 2.6% 15074 09.3% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oct18 05771 03.5% 5048 3.1% 10819 06.6% 4169 2.6% 14988 09.2% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0
Nov18 05650 03.5% 5060 3.1% 10710 06.6% 4512 2.8% 15222 09.4% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dec18 06029 03.7% 5121 3.1% 11150 06.8% 4621 2.8% 15771 09.6% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Jan19 07140 04.4% 5435 3.4% 12575 07.8% 5543 3.4% 18118 11.2% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Feb19 06625 04.1% 5196 3.2% 11821 07.3% 4477 2.8% 16298 10.0% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mar19 06382 03.9% 4887 3.0% 11269 06.9% 4548 2.8% 15817 09.7% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Apr19 05387 03.3% 4951 3.1% 10338 06.4% 4424 2.7% 14762 09.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
May19 05503 03.4% 5500 3.4% 11003 06.8% 4070 2.5% 15073 09.3% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jun19 06292 03.8% 5725 3.5% 12017 07.3% 4529 2.8% 16546 10.1% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jul19 06556 04.0% 5289 3.2% 11845 07.2% 4017 2.4% 15862 09.6% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Aug19 06203 03.8% 5331 3.3% 11534 07.0% 4237 2.6% 15771 09.6% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Sep19 05465 03.3% 4637 2.8% 10102 06.2% 3925 2.4% 14027 08.6% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oct19 05510 03.3% 4412 2.7% 09922 06.0% 3961 2.4% 13883 08.4% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nov19 05441 03.3% 4515 2.7% 09956 06.1% 4053 2.5% 14009 08.5% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dec19 05503 03.4% 4643 2.8% 10146 06.2% 4170 2.5% 14316 08.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Jan20 06504 04.0% 5107 3.1% 11611 07.1% 4605 2.8% 16216 09.9% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Feb20 06218 03.8% 4973 3.0% 11191 06.8% 4501 2.7% 15692 09.5% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mar20 07370 04.5% 5215 3.2% 12585 07.7% 5788 3.6% 18373 11.3% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Apr20 22504 14.4% 9761 6.3% 32265 20.7 10524 6.8% 32789 21.0% 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
May20 20514 13.0% 9422 6.0% 29936 18.9 10286 6.5% 40222 25.5% 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jun20 18072 11.2% 8633 5.4% 26705 16.6% 9210 5.7% 35915 22.3% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jul20 16882 10.5% 8003 5.0% 24885 15.4% 8521 5.3% 33406 20.7% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Aug20 13742 08.5% 7184 4.5% 20926 13.0% 7387 4.6% 28313 17.6% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Sep20 12277 07.7% 6984 4.4% 19261 12.0% 5901 3.7% 25162 15.7% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oct20 10620 06.6% 6317 3.9% 16937 10.5% 6237 3.9% 23174 14.4% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
Nov20 10264 06.4% 6791 4.2% 17055 10.6% 6423 4.0% 23478 14.6% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dec20 10404 06.5% 7088 4.4% 17492 10.9% 6133 3.8% 23625 14.8% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Jan21 10851 06.8% 7129 4.5% 17980 11.3% 6284 3.9% 24264 15.2% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Feb21 10486 06.6% 6902 4.3% 17388 10.9% 6199 3.9% 23587 14.7% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mar21 09905 06.2% 6576 4.1% 16481 10.3% 5859 3.7% 22340 13.9% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Apr21 09220 05.7% 6466 4.0% 15686 09.8% 4968 3.1% 20654 12.9% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
May21 08829 05.5% 7087 4.4% 15916 09.9% 5016 3.1% 20932 13.0% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jun21 09883 06.1% 6869 4.2% 16752 10.3% 4776 2.9% 21528 13.3% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jul21 09221 05.7% 6818 4.2% 16039 09.9% 4526 2.8% 20565 12.6% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Aug21 08556 05.3% 5810 3.6% 14366 08.9% 4309 2.7% 18675 11.5% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9
Sep21 07366 04.6% 5710 3.5% 13076 08.1% 4077 2.5% 17153 10.6% 261766 161392 61.7 08.1



Jul12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9
Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6

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General color-coding guidelines:
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Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

Well, it looks like the current U6 right now is lower than every January of the past 24 years, since the creation of U-6, according to BLS figures.

From 2009 to 2017, the Civilian noninstitutional Population grew by 19.343 Million. With a nominal post-9/11 Labor Participation Rate of 66%, the Labor Force would have grown by 12.766 Million. But Obama's Deep State reported that the Labor Force only grew by 5.231 Million. Labor Force is defined as all Employed + all Unemployed. So Obama would have you believe that during his 8 years, 7.5 Million extra Employ-eligible population were NOT unemployed (nor employed).



Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

For July 2019:
The Involuntary Part-time percent matched the lowest rate on the table, from 2000. And the Participation Rate hit another high point following Obama.

July and August both have the highest number of Employed in history.
For September 2019, practically the best numbers in all categories.



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Friday, October 8, 2021 4:39 PM

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Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.


Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unemp Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pct InvPT Pct Total Pcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0


Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jn18 06812 04.2 1437 0.9 08249 05.1 4974 3.0 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jl18 06730 04.1 1498 0.9 08228 05.0 4701 2.9 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Au18 06370 03.9 1443 0.9 07813 04.8 4263 2.6 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Se18 05766 03.6 1577 1.0 07343 04.5 4238 2.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oc18 05771 03.5 1491 0.9 07262 04.5 4169 2.6 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0
Nv18 05650 03.5 1678 1.0 07328 04.5 4512 2.8 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dc18 06029 03.7 1556 0.9 07585 04.6 4621 2.8 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Fe19 06625 04.1 1424 0.9 08049 04.9 4477 2.8 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mr19 06382 03.9 1357 0.8 07739 04.8 4548 2.8 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Ap19 05387 03.3 1417 0.9 06804 04.2 4424 2.7 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
My19 05503 03.4 1395 0.9 06898 04.2 4070 2.5 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jn19 06292 03.8 1571 1.0 07863 04.8 4529 2.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jl19 06556 04.0 1478 0.9 08034 04.9 4017 2.4 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Au19 06203 03.8 1564 1.0 07767 04.7 4237 2.6 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Se19 05465 03.3 1299 0.8 06764 04.1 3925 2.4 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oc19 05510 03.3 1229 0.7 06739 04.1 3961 2.4 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nv19 05441 03.3 1246 0.8 06687 04.1 4053 2.5 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dc19 05503 03.4 1246 0.8 06749 04.1 4170 2.5 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Fe20 06218 03.8 1494 0.9 07712 04.7 4501 2.7 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mr20 07370 04.5 1380 0.8 08750 05.4 5788 3.6 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Ap20 22504 14.4 2211 1.4 24715 15.9 10524 6.8 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
My20 20514 13.0 2292 1.5 22806 14.4 10286 6.5 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jn20 18072 11.2 2486 1.5 20558 12.8 9210 5.7 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jl20 16882 10.5 2027 1.3 18909 11.7 8521 5.3 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Au20 13742 08.5 2083 1.3 15825 09.8 7387 4.6 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Se20 12277 07.7 1921 1.2 14199 08.9 5901 3.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oc20 10620 06.6 1923 1.2 12543 07.8 6237 3.9 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
No20 10264 06.4 2068 1.3 12332 07.7 6423 4.0 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dc20 10404 06.5 2197 1.4 12601 07.9 6133 3.8 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Fe21 10486 06.6 1942 1.2 12428 07.8 6199 3.9 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mr21 09905 06.2 1783 1.1 11688 07.3 5859 3.7 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Ap21 09220 05.7 1763 1.1 10983 06.8 4968 3.1 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
My21 08829 05.5 1872 1.2 10701 06.7 5016 3.1 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jn21 09883 06.1 1856 1.1 11739 07.2 4776 2.9 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jl21 09221 05.7 1923 1.2 11144 06.8 4526 2.8 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Au21 08556 05.3 1558 1.0 10114 06.3 4309 2.7 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9
Se21 07366 04.6 1732 1.1 09098 05.6 4077 2.5 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1




Jl12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.
For March 2019, the Marginally Attached raw count is the lowest since Jan 2001, and the percentage of 0.8 is the lowest on the table.
Comparing to March 2018, the U-3 is 0.2% less, the Marginally Attached is 0.1% less, the Involuntary Part-Time is 0.3% less, and the U-6 is 0.6% less.
Most of the time, the April U-6 drops about 0.8%, so next month we'll likely see record low numbers across the board.
For April 2021, BLS admits that March had 636,000 unemployed counted as employed, and in April had 1,200,000 unemployed counted as employed.



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Friday, October 8, 2021 4:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force.

The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0
Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1
Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0



Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Feb17 07887 1723 5700 15310 09.6 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5
Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9
Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1
My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1
Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9
Jul17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9
Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6
Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0
Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6
Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7
Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0

Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul18 06730 1498 4701 12929 07.9 11431 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Aug18 06370 1443 4263 12076 07.4 10633 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Sep18 05766 1577 4238 11581 07.2 10004 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oct18 05771 1491 4169 11431 07.0 09940 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0

Nov18 05650 1678 4512 11840 07.3 10162 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dec18 06029 1556 4621 12206 07.4 10650 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Feb19 06625 1424 4477 12526 07.7 11102 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mar19 06382 1357 4548 12287 07.5 10930 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Apr19 05387 1417 4424 11228 06.9 09811 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
May19 05503 1395 4070 10968 06.7 09573 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jun19 06292 1571 4529 12391 07.5 10820 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jul19 06556 1478 4017 12051 07.3 10573 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Aug19 06203 1564 4237 12004 07.3 10440 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Sep19 05465 1299 3925 10689 06.5 09390 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oct19 05510 1229 3961 10700 06.5 09471 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nov19 05441 1246 4053 10740 06.5 09494 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dec19 05503 1246 4170 10919 06.7 09673 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Feb20 06218 1494 4501 12213 07.4 10719 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mar20 07370 1380 5788 14538 08.9 13158 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Apr20 22504 2211 10524 35239 22.6 33028 122802 52.7 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
May20 20514 2292 10286 33092 20.9 30800 127175 51.1 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jun20 18072 2486 9210 29768 18.5 27282 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jul20 16882 2027 8521 27430 17.0 25403 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Aug20 13742 2083 7387 23212 14.4 21129 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Sep20 12277 1921 5901 20099 12.6 18178 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oct20 10620 1923 6237 18780 11.7 16857 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
Nov20 10264 2068 6423 18755 11.7 16687 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dec20 10404 2197 6133 18732 11.7 16537 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Feb21 10486 1942 6199 19743 12.3 16685 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mar21 09905 1783 5859 17547 10.9 15764 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Apr21 09220 1763 4968 15951 09.9 14188 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
May21 08829 1872 5016 15717 09.8 13845 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jun21 09883 1856 4776 16515 10.2 14659 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jul21 09221 1923 4526 15670 09.6 13747 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Aug21 08556 1558 4309 14423 08.9 12865 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9
Sep21 07366 1732 4077 13175 08.2 11443 149949 42.7% 261766 161392 61.7 08.1


Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%


Jul12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7
Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6
Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8
Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.


The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

One comparison of note for July 2018: in the past 2 months (since schools were in session), the Labor Force has increased by almost 2 million, but the sums of Unemployed and Involuntary Part-time have only increased 1.1 million. This means that about 900,000 of fresh schooling products have been absorbed by the demand from employers, in only 2 months.
For February 2019, not much spectacular is shown. Mostly a return of most figures to the trends present in the December figures, which were prior to the Pelosi Shutdown of Government.
Of some interest is that this indicates that the January U-6 figure without the Pelosi Shutdown would have been about 8.0%. Since I had chosen to use January as the annual snapshot representation of all the years, this leaves this one year a blip out of context. All other Januarys have similar situations and templates, and 2019 has no similar comparison.
This 8.0% realistic comparison figure would have been the 2nd best on the table, behind 7.8% in 2000.
One thing I had not continued to noticed before. After Obamanomics was able to get the total of Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time higher than the U-3 Unemployment Rate by Jan 2016, Trump was able to keep that balance reversed until Oct 2018, except for Dec 2017. The U-3 is the larger, more stable and consistent of all the subcomponents of the U-6, and the other 2 are just bloated from Obamanomics.
Following the 2018 Midterm Elections, this balanced switched again for Nov, Dec, Jan. But now for Feb and March, the balance is restored and the subtotal is lower than the Unemployment Rate.


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Friday, October 8, 2021 4:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database.
However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about.
There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures.

The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate.




I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5


I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.


The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure.
The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation
Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3%
Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5%
Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7%
Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6%
Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7%
Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0%
Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2%
Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4%
Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%

Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%
Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0%
Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1%
Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8%
Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8%
Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9%
Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1%
Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6%
Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0%
Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2%
Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3%
Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6%
Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10%
Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5%
Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5%
Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9%
Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%
Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0%
Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3%
Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7%



Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%
Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3%
Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7%
Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1%
My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1%
Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4%
J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4%
Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8%
Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2%
Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2%
Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2%
Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9%

Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0%
Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4%
Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7%
Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3%
My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4%
Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7%
J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7%
Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9%
Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4%
Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5%
Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4%
Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1%

Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3%
Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7%
Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0%
Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9%
My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8%
Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9%
J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2%
Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7%
Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5%
Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7%
No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7%

De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6%

Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7%
Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2%
Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8%
Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6%
My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3%
Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7%
J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8%
Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5%
Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0%


J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession.
It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work.


The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.


The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
The Shadowstats figure for Jan 2019 shows the difference (bloat) is less than the prior Jan figure, for the first time since 2010.
So I assume this would mean that the bloat of Long-term Unemployed is being chipped away by Trump. Either by re-employment or transition to Retirement age, or both.
But this extra 9% of the Population that Obamanomics forced to Unemployment can now be whittled away and not expanded by default, only by actions such as the 2018 Elections.
For September 2019, even Shadowstats begrudgingly dropped below 21% for the first time since 2009.
Wow. For Dec 2019, even Shadow Stats has dropped to it's lowest figure in years. Next month could mark a 10-year low.



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Friday, October 8, 2021 4:39 PM

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This Table of Data, which breaks down the numerical changes in the key figures.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-6

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.


The 1st column is Labor Force minus both Unemployed and Involuntary Part-Time. This is also Employed minus Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 2nd column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 3rd column is the Civilian Population. 4th column is Labor Force, 5th column is Participation Rate.

After the separation bar, the 7th column is the Increase in Civilian Population from the previous entry. For the entries by year, this is the 12 month Increase. For the entries broken down by month, this is the 1 month Increase.
The 8th column is the Increase in Labor Force from the previous entry.
The 9th column is the Increase in Actually Fully Employed count, from the previous entry.

In the monthly breakdown for 2018, after the second separation bar, the 10th column is the Civilian Population Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 11th column is the Labor Force Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 12th column is the Actually Fully Employed Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 13th column is the amount that the 12th column exceeds the 10th column, or the amount of Unemployed that is being chipped away, despite manipulation of other figures.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc
Jan94 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0% |
Jan95 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1% | 1800 1305 02985/+1185
Jan96 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8% | 1881 0698 01100/-0781
Jan97 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4% | 2651 2921 03023/+0372
Jan98 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6% | 1953 1634 02752/+0799
Jan99 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7% | 2481 1992 02896/+0415
Jan00 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9% | 2063 1678 02256/+0193
Jan01 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9% | 2107 1428 00893/-1214
Jan02 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2% | 2200 0025 -2953/-5153

Jan02 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2% | 5617 2179 -1119/-6736
Jan03 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1% | 3391 2073 01179/-2212
Jan04 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7% | 2264 0767 00869/-1395
Jan05 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4% | 2676 1057 02116/-0560
Jan06 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5% | 2716 1965 03090/+0374
Jan07 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9% | 3097 2834 02677/-0420
Jan08 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7% | 1966 0904 -0283/-2249
Jan09 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4% | 2123 0617 -7611/-9734
Jan10 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6% | 2093 -488 -4112/-6205
Jan11 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9% | 1872 -421 00923/-0949
Jan12 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4% | 3565 0949 02625/-0940
Jan13 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3% | 2394 1309 01910/-0484
Jan14 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5% | 2252 -413 02802/+0550
Jan15 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5% | 2808 1669 03518/+0710
Jan16 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3% | 2664 1297 03377/+0713
Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% | 1685 1329 01596/-0089
Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 2698 1361 03068/+0370
Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% | 1459 2067 01953/+0494
Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% | 1263 1393 02967/+1704
Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% | 1349 -4263 -12235/-13584



Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% |
Feb17 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7% | 164 00806 01495
Mar17 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9% | 168 00430 01230
Apr17 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8% | 174 -0095 00147
My 17 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8% | 179 00162 00141
Jun17 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3% | 190 01358 00119
Jul17 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5% | 194 00574 00508
Aug17 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0% | 206 -1048 -0594
Sep17 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0% | 205 00186 01307
Oct17 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7% | 204 -0584 -0026
Nov17 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7% | 183 00001 -0101
Dec17 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4% | 160 -0586 -1016

Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 671 00157 -1142 | 2698 1361 3068 +370
Feb18 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9% | 154 01457 01694 | 2688 2012 3267 +579
Mar18 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8% | 163 00054 00740 | 2681 1636 2777 +096
Apr18 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7% | 175 -0268 00815 | 2684 1463 2445 -239
My 18 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8% | 182 00485 00714 | 2687 1786 3028 +341
Jun18 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4% | 188 01512 00060 | 2685 1940 2959 +274
Jul18 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5% | 201 00457 00812 | 2692 1823 3262 +570
Aug18 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7% | 223 -1825 -1027 | 2709 1046 2830 +121
Sep18 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7% | 224 00049 00678 | 2341 0909 2201 -140
Oct18 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9% | 224 00765 00829 | 2748 2218 3056 +308
Nov18 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9% | 194 -0058 -0280 | 2759 2199 2877 +118
Dec18 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8% | 180 -0155 -0643 | 2779 2630 3250 +471

Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% |-649 -0406 -2439 | 1459 2067 1953 +494
Feb19 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0% | 153 00689 02270 | 1458 1299 2529 1071
Mar19 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0% | 145 00030 00202 | 1440 1275 1991 +551
Apr19 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7% | 156 -0726 00393 | 1421 0817 1569 +148
May19 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8% | 168 00558 00796 | 1407 0890 1651 +244
Jun19 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4% | 176 01465 00218 | 1395 0843 1809 +414
Jul19 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6% | 188 00821 01068 | 1382 1207 2065 +683
Aug19 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2% | 207 -0922 -0789 | 1366 2110 2303 +937
Sep19 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1% | 216 -0076 00974 | 1348 1985 2599 1251
Oct19 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3% | 207 00633 00919 | 1331 1853 2689 1358
Nov19 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2% | 175 -0190 -0580 | 1312 1721 2389 1077
Dec19 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0% | 161 -0379 -0558 | 1293 1493 2474 1181

Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% |-679 -0510 -1946 | 1263 1393 2967 1704
Feb20 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3% | 126 00738 01128 | 1236 1442 1845 +609
Mar20 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6% | 130 -1698 -4127 | 1221 -286 -2504
Apr20 122802 52.7% 259896 155830 60.0% | 138 -6707 -26587 | 1203 -6267 -29494
May20 127175 51.1% 260047 157975 60.7% | 151 02145 04373 | 1186 -4680 -25907
Jun20 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8% | 157 02908 06426 | 1167 -4058 -19699
Jul20 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0% | 169 00491 02370 | 1148 -3567 -18397
Aug20 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8% | 185 -0408 03834 | 1126 -3053 -13742
Sep20 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4% | 184 -0893 02058 | 1104 -3870 -12658
Oct20 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7% | 183 00980 02301 | 1080 -3523 -11276
Nov20 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5% | 160 -0585 -0415 | 1065 -3918 -11111

Dec20 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3% | 145 -0451 -0301 | 1049 -3990 -10854

Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% |-379 -0783 -1381 | 1349 -4263 -12235
Feb21 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3% | 067 00774 01224 | 1290 -4227 -10193
Mar21 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5% | 085 00389 01310 | 1245 -2140 -4756(-7260)
Apr21 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4% | 100 -0018 01558 | 1207 4549 23389(-6105)
May21 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5% | 107 00228 00571 | 1163 2632 19587(-6320)
Jun21 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1% | 128 01560 00746 | 1134 1284 13907(-5792)
Jul21 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3% | 131 00650 01562 | 1096 1443 13099(-5298)
Aug21 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8% | 142 -1029 -0147 | 1053 0822 9086(-4656)
Sep21 149949 42.7% 261766 161392 61.7% | 155 -0396 01026 | 1024 1319 8054(-4604)




Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc | CPIn LFIn AEInc
Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | \SincLastMonth/ | \SinceLastYear/


Jul12 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3 |
Aug12 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 | 212 -1271 -0072
Sep12 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 | 206 -0180 00494
Oct12 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 | 211 00704 00940
Nov12 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 | 191 -1174 -0619

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General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

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The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. Except possibly 2010, 2011, 2016.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 2nd column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

I am really impressed with how well this Table 6 presents the data.

The problem of data manipulation is driven by the desire for Fake Headlines. I have attempted to circumvent the Fake Data by looking at it in a way which avoids the manipulations.
I don't feel the Civilian noninstitutional Population is easily manipulated or faked, and I have not heard claims of such. This could be thought of as birthing rates, just delayed by 16-18 years until chillen are job-ready.
I also don't feel that the count of who is actually Employed is being consistently faked or manipulated - what would be the point of any of that? Both Full-Time and Voluntary Part-Time would apply here. Why would either employers or employees lie about that?
The figure which is fiddled and manipulated mostly seems to be how many are "Unemployed" and, therefore, the "Labor Force" figure. I do not argue that. But this Table presents data circumventing that manipulation.
Other manipulating and faking occur with "Seasonally Adjusted" counts and calculations, which the Shadow Stats site comments on a lot. I have been avoiding these numbers in this thread, using only non-adjusted figures. However, this does allow fluctuations of different months and seasons to show up, and can be more difficult to filter and interpret, and interpolate.

For the yearly January counts, the table shows the Increase of the Civilian Population, and also the Increase of the Actually Fully Employed, compared to the count 12 months prior.
For the monthly breakdowns, the first sets show the Increase from the month before.
But for the breakdown of 2018 months, the second sets show the Increase from the prior same month, 12 months before. This is a figure which ignores Seasonal variations, because last year the same month was in the same season. Also, these figures can be compared to the historical trend, because all of these figures are on a 12-month scale.

By this method, we can clearly see that in the past 12 months, only 2 months (April and September) had an Increase in Actually Fully Employed which was less than the Increase in Civilian Population.
This shows that for 10 of the months, the AE Increase was greater than the CivPop Increase! Meaning that for every single fresh newly added Civilian, there was a job to absorb them, AND also additional jobs to suck out more workers from the "Unemployed" cloud, no matter how they were categorized. That means that the job growth is certainly chipping away at the portion of Labor Force which is non Employed, or not Fully Employed.
To be clear: to maintain Par, the Actually Fully Employed Increase would only need to keep pace with the Increase of Labor Force - which is less than 2/3 of the Civilian Population. But the AE Inc is not only blowing past that Par figure, it is even exceeding the raw count of the full Civilian noninstitutional Population Increase! In February and July it was a half million more, even with a reportedly tight labor market.
This is seen as the last column being a greater number than the third-to-last column.

And even the stated Labor Force Increase over 12 months prior (second to last column) is a positive number every month this year, no losses.

I hope this makes sense.
I am certainly interested in hearing valid arguments about how or why this is not a clear presentation of the data.

This does help show a consistent trend for the year, and can predict that next month (Jan 2019) will show an improvement in the Labor Force Participation Rate, about 0.5% higher than January 2018.

I guess that last statement could be considered a prediction, which was proven True.
For March 2019: from Jan 2018 to Jan 2019 the Actual Fully Employed figure increased by almost a half million beyond the total increase in Civilian noninstitutional Population. Meaning not only every additional person added to the available Population, but an additional half million who were previously in an unemployed or underemployed category.
For the months Jan-Mar 2018, the average was 348,000 (compared to the same month, prior year).
For the months Jan-Mar 2019, the average is 705,000.
For April 2019: For the months Jan-Apr 2018, the average was 202,000.
For the months Jan-Apr 2019, the average was 566,000.
For June 2019, that final column shows 9 consecutive months without a negative.
The average for that figure from Jan-Jun 2018 was 274, and same for 2019 is 487. At this pace, it seems that by Aug or Sep the Involutary Part-Time will be lower than any January figure, and the Not Fully Employed will be the lowest since the start of the Rock-The-Vote Recession, and the U6 will be even lower than the past few months.
September 2019: that last column, not only is the highest margin of additionally employed on the chart (while last September was a negative), but also marks 12 consecutive months of plusses, no negatives for any month. And this shows the increase of Actually Fully Employed is almost twice the amount that the Civilian Population increased. That is why the Labor Participation Rate is hovering around 1/2 percent better than the preceeding year.
For August 2020, that last column shows that more than half of the lost jobs have been recovered.
For Mar 2021, The disaster of Lord Darth Obiden has finally managed to get the Not Fully Employed percent down to what Trump achieved by last October. But the Participation rate is still not up to the level Trump had last October. And keeping the Labor Force artificially depressed.


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Friday, October 8, 2021 5:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Well, that is a fanciful report today.

Lowest Unemployment since the Covid Libtard Lockdowns began.
Despite a shrinking size of Labor Force, and decrease in Participation Rate.



I wonder how many people believe such rubbish.


Continued reports of BLS being unable to actually count the number of unemployed, so they continue to mis-classify unemployed folk as employed.

And continuing to grow the largest gap between Fake Unemployment figures and the more realistic Shadow Stats tally.

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Saturday, October 9, 2021 2:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Well, that is a fanciful report today.

Lowest Unemployment since the Covid Libtard Lockdowns began.
Despite a shrinking size of Labor Force, and decrease in Participation Rate.



I wonder how many people believe such rubbish.


Continued reports of BLS being unable to actually count the number of unemployed, so they continue to mis-classify unemployed folk as employed.

And continuing to grow the largest gap between Fake Unemployment figures and the more realistic Shadow Stats tally.

After review, I see that they are claiming extremely low Involuntary Part Time count - within 0.1% of all time lowest - which seems very fishy.

There are still 3 million missing from the Labor Force compared to the peak, 2 years ago in the fall. This should actually be going up fast now, with Lord Darth Obiden giving Unemployment and handouts to every Infected Illegal Alien Invader (which are invading by the millions), which puts them into the Labor Force category.
The Labor Force count is not higher than the count from July 2017.

And still 5 million missing from the Actually Fully Employed peak count, also from 2 years ago (table 3 and 6). Actually Fully Employed is Employed minus Involuntary Part Time, or Employed Full Time plus Voluntary Part Time.
This should be our best true measure of how bad off we are, how far we have fallen.
Those peak counts from 2 years ago (2019) were in fact 6 million more than the counts from 2 years before that (2017).
So this means we are really 11 million behind our pre-Libtard Lockdown trend. That is about 7 percent of what they are calling the Labor Force, or 4% of their Civilian Population figure. While they are claiming 4.6% Unemployment rate. Very fanciful data indeed.
The Actually Fully Employed count is barely higher than the count from Fall of 2017.


Obamination was able to fudge the numbers by not counting most of the Unemployed, and Shadow Stats helps uncover the discrepancy.
But it seems Lord Darth Obiden is fudging the numbers in a different way, finding a way to just not count even more of the Unemployed. One way seems to be using as cover the excuse that BLS cannot accurately count the number of unemployed, and are mistakenly counting Unemployed persons as Employed. This was an excuse which might be believable when the Unemployed count exploded as result from Libtard Lockdowns, and there were just such a volume of persons that it was difficult to keep track of. But now they are claiming the almost record low Unemployment, so this excuse for not being able to accurately count how many are Unemployed vs. Employed is really wearing thin. How few and rare does the actual number need to be before you can count, dunces?

There may be other ways that the current Sith Empire is fudging the numbers, but we may not be able to see how until hindsight.



For increase of Civ Pop, still just barely managed to struggle above 1 million more than a year ago.

The Shadow Ststs bloat, or deviation, is the worst ever, even worse than even Obamanomics was able to achieve.

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Sunday, October 17, 2021 4:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I have been hearing numerous references to the ending of Extended Unemployment Benefits, as well as extra Unemployment benefits, ending on Labor Day.
And that this should be immediately reflected in the Unemployment figures for September (polled at mid-month, as usual).

Like it is some light switch: end massive cash payouts one day, folk start working the next.


Minimum wage jobs, working about 40 hours per week, would earn about $300/wk, before taxes.

The hundreds of dollars per week of extended Unemployment Benefits, plus the extra PUEC ($300-400) payments, amounted to around $1,000 per week, for sitting on their couch all day. And it was tax-free.
This went on for months.
Sure, some of it masy have been "stimulus" for buying more stuff. But these minumum wage people were likely living with others, not on their own, and this many-month windfall will take a long time to use up, run out of.
It may take months before they run out of all that extra cash in their pockets, and bother to go to work.




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Friday, November 5, 2021 12:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Tomorrow the Unemployment report will likely show that the Civ Pop increase of the past year will be less than 1 million, for the first time since this version of report figures was created (under Clinton).

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Friday, November 5, 2021 5:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Updating with Jobs Report data from August 6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-1

Jan 2002 is listed twice. First with original report data from February 2002. Second with revised data from new Census data, published in February 2003.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
BLS currently defines the Want A Job category as not being part of the Labor Force.

So I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.


Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Jan98 07069 05.2% 5026 3.7% 12095 08.9% 4090 3.0% 16185 11.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 04.8% 4800 3.5% 11404 08.3% 3645 2.6% 15049 10.9% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 04.5% 4354 3.1% 10670 07.6% 3355 2.4% 14025 10.0% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 04.7% 4474 3.2% 11121 07.9% 3559 2.5% 14680 10.4% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 06.3% 4872 3.5% 13807 09.8% 4249 3.0% 18056 12.8% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 06.3% 4938 3.4% 13989 09.8% 4453 3.1% 18442 12.9% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 06.5% 4779 3.3% 14174 09.8% 5003 3.4% 19177 13.2% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 06.3% 4913 3.4% 14057 09.6% 5152 3.5% 19209 13.2% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 05.7% 5136 3.5% 13580 09.2% 4793 3.3% 18373 12.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 05.1% 5095 3.4% 12703 08.5% 4513 3.0% 17216 11.5% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 05.0% 4633 3.0% 12282 08.1% 4620 3.0% 16902 11.1% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 05.4% 4977 3.2% 13198 08.6% 5235 3.5% 18433 12.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 08.5% 5866 3.8% 18875 12.3% 8675 5.7% 27550 18.0% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9% 14475 09.2% 6234 4.0% 20709 13.2% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 05.1% 5934 3.8% 14083 08.9% 6127 3.8% 20210 12.7% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Jan19 07140 04.4% 5435 3.4% 12575 07.8% 5543 3.4% 18118 11.2% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Jan20 06504 04.0% 5107 3.1% 11611 07.1% 4605 2.8% 16216 09.9% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Jan21 10851 06.8% 7129 4.5% 17980 11.3% 6284 3.9% 24264 15.2% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0


Jan18 07189 04.5% 5364 3.3% 12553 07.8% 5380 3.4% 17933 11.2% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 04.4% 5152 3.2% 12243 07.6% 5241 3.2% 17484 10.8% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 04.1% 4793 3.0% 11464 07.1% 4975 3.1% 16439 10.2% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 03.7% 5010 3.1% 10942 06.8% 4631 2.9% 15573 09.7% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
May18 05657 03.6% 5696 3.5% 11353 07.0% 4677 2.9% 16030 09.9% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 04.2% 5654 3.5% 12466 07.6% 4974 3.0% 17440 10.7% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul18 06730 04.1% 5483 3.3% 12213 07.5% 4701 2.9% 16914 10.3% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Aug18 06370 03.9% 5534 3.4% 11904 07.3% 4263 2.6% 16167 09.9% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Sep18 05766 03.6% 5070 3.1% 10836 06.7% 4238 2.6% 15074 09.3% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oct18 05771 03.5% 5048 3.1% 10819 06.6% 4169 2.6% 14988 09.2% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0
Nov18 05650 03.5% 5060 3.1% 10710 06.6% 4512 2.8% 15222 09.4% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dec18 06029 03.7% 5121 3.1% 11150 06.8% 4621 2.8% 15771 09.6% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Jan19 07140 04.4% 5435 3.4% 12575 07.8% 5543 3.4% 18118 11.2% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Feb19 06625 04.1% 5196 3.2% 11821 07.3% 4477 2.8% 16298 10.0% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mar19 06382 03.9% 4887 3.0% 11269 06.9% 4548 2.8% 15817 09.7% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Apr19 05387 03.3% 4951 3.1% 10338 06.4% 4424 2.7% 14762 09.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
May19 05503 03.4% 5500 3.4% 11003 06.8% 4070 2.5% 15073 09.3% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jun19 06292 03.8% 5725 3.5% 12017 07.3% 4529 2.8% 16546 10.1% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jul19 06556 04.0% 5289 3.2% 11845 07.2% 4017 2.4% 15862 09.6% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Aug19 06203 03.8% 5331 3.3% 11534 07.0% 4237 2.6% 15771 09.6% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Sep19 05465 03.3% 4637 2.8% 10102 06.2% 3925 2.4% 14027 08.6% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oct19 05510 03.3% 4412 2.7% 09922 06.0% 3961 2.4% 13883 08.4% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nov19 05441 03.3% 4515 2.7% 09956 06.1% 4053 2.5% 14009 08.5% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dec19 05503 03.4% 4643 2.8% 10146 06.2% 4170 2.5% 14316 08.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Jan20 06504 04.0% 5107 3.1% 11611 07.1% 4605 2.8% 16216 09.9% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Feb20 06218 03.8% 4973 3.0% 11191 06.8% 4501 2.7% 15692 09.5% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mar20 07370 04.5% 5215 3.2% 12585 07.7% 5788 3.6% 18373 11.3% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Apr20 22504 14.4% 9761 6.3% 32265 20.7 10524 6.8% 32789 21.0% 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
May20 20514 13.0% 9422 6.0% 29936 18.9 10286 6.5% 40222 25.5% 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jun20 18072 11.2% 8633 5.4% 26705 16.6% 9210 5.7% 35915 22.3% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jul20 16882 10.5% 8003 5.0% 24885 15.4% 8521 5.3% 33406 20.7% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Aug20 13742 08.5% 7184 4.5% 20926 13.0% 7387 4.6% 28313 17.6% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Sep20 12277 07.7% 6984 4.4% 19261 12.0% 5901 3.7% 25162 15.7% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oct20 10620 06.6% 6317 3.9% 16937 10.5% 6237 3.9% 23174 14.4% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
Nov20 10264 06.4% 6791 4.2% 17055 10.6% 6423 4.0% 23478 14.6% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dec20 10404 06.5% 7088 4.4% 17492 10.9% 6133 3.8% 23625 14.8% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Jan21 10851 06.8% 7129 4.5% 17980 11.3% 6284 3.9% 24264 15.2% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Feb21 10486 06.6% 6902 4.3% 17388 10.9% 6199 3.9% 23587 14.7% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mar21 09905 06.2% 6576 4.1% 16481 10.3% 5859 3.7% 22340 13.9% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Apr21 09220 05.7% 6466 4.0% 15686 09.8% 4968 3.1% 20654 12.9% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
May21 08829 05.5% 7087 4.4% 15916 09.9% 5016 3.1% 20932 13.0% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jun21 09883 06.1% 6869 4.2% 16752 10.3% 4776 2.9% 21528 13.3% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jul21 09221 05.7% 6818 4.2% 16039 09.9% 4526 2.8% 20565 12.6% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Aug21 08556 05.3% 5810 3.6% 14366 08.9% 4309 2.7% 18675 11.5% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9
Sep21 07366 04.6% 5710 3.5% 13076 08.1% 4077 2.5% 17153 10.6% 261766 161392 61.7 08.1
Oct21 06896 04.3% 5567 3.4% 12463 07.7% 3998 2.5% 16461 10.2% 261908 161863 61.8 07.7



Jul12 13400 08.6% 6837 4.3% 20237 12.9% 8218 5.3% 28455 18.2% 243354 156526 64.3 15.2
Aug12 12696 08.2% 7631 4.9% 20327 13.1% 7723 5.0% 28050 18.1% 243566 155255 63.7 14.6
Sep12 11742 07.6% 6427 4.1% 18169 11.7% 8003 5.2% 26172 16.9% 243772 155075 63.6 14.2
Oct12 11741 07.5% 6142 4.0% 17883 11.5% 7768 5.0% 25651 16.5% 243983 155779 63.8 13.9
Nov12 11404 07.4% 6495 4.2% 17899 11.6% 7898 5.0% 25797 16.6% 244174 154953 63.5 13.9
Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6

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The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

Well, it looks like the current U6 right now is lower than every January of the past 24 years, since the creation of U-6, according to BLS figures.

From 2009 to 2017, the Civilian noninstitutional Population grew by 19.343 Million. With a nominal post-9/11 Labor Participation Rate of 66%, the Labor Force would have grown by 12.766 Million. But Obama's Deep State reported that the Labor Force only grew by 5.231 Million. Labor Force is defined as all Employed + all Unemployed. So Obama would have you believe that during his 8 years, 7.5 Million extra Employ-eligible population were NOT unemployed (nor employed).



Quote:

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Want A Job category, which Obamanomics managed to increase to over 7 Million for the only time in the BLS tables. This Jan figure (Want A Job) didn't return to within 0.1% of 2008 level until 2018, after Trump's first year.
The figure of Unemployed plus Want A Job is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

The Want A Job count maxxed out in Aug 2012, just as Obama was proclaiming that Unemployment Rates had dropped, which he needed to get below 8.0% by October, in order to win re-election.

For July 2019:
The Involuntary Part-time percent matched the lowest rate on the table, from 2000. And the Participation Rate hit another high point following Obama.

July and August both have the highest number of Employed in history.
For September 2019, practically the best numbers in all categories.

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Friday, November 5, 2021 5:54 PM

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Updating with today's Jobs Report to this Table of Data, which seems to best show the components of U6:

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-2

Note: this year the Marginally Attached data is in Table A-16 of the report.
Quote:

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. For example, the current Rate of 4.1% (for 4 months straight) is SeasAdj, and the real Rate is 4.5% for Jan 2018. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category. The 5th column is the sum of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached - which more accurately represents the Actual Unemployed. The 6th column is the Rate for column 5 figure.
The 7th column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 8th column is the Rate for column 7. The 9th column is the sum of the 5th column plus 7th column. 10th column is the Rate for column 9 figure. The Rates in columns 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 11th column is the Civilian Population. 12th column is Labor Force, 13th column is Participation Rate. 14th column is the published U-6 figure.


Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unemp Pct MrgAt Pct SbTtl Pct InvPT Pct Total Pcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U6%
Ja93 09911 07.9 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 6181 4.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 2120 1.6 11612 09.0 4963 3.8 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0
Ja95 08101 06.2 1783 1.4 09884 07.6 4620 3.5 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1
Ja96 08270 06.3 1737 1.3 10007 07.6 4103 3.1 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Ja97 07933 05.9 1615 1.2 09548 07.1 4338 3.2 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Ja98 07069 05.2 1479 1.1 08548 06.3 4090 3.0 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Ja99 06604 04.8 1358 1.0 07962 05.8 3645 2.6 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Ja00 06316 04.5 1197 0.9 07513 05.4 3355 2.4 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Ja01 06647 04.7 1290 0.9 07937 05.6 3559 2.5 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Ja02 08935 06.3 1509 1.1 10444 07.4 4249 3.0 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Ja02 09051 06.3 1532 1.1 10583 07.4 4453 3.1 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Ja03 09395 06.5 1598 1.1 10993 07.6 5003 3.4 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Ja04 09144 06.3 1670 1.1 10814 07.4 5152 3.5 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Ja05 08444 05.7 1804 1.2 10248 07.0 4793 3.3 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Ja06 07608 05.1 1644 1.1 09252 06.2 4513 3.0 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Ja07 07649 05.0 1577 1.0 09226 06.1 4620 3.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Ja08 08221 05.4 1729 1.1 09950 06.5 5235 3.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Ja09 13009 08.5 2130 1.4 15139 09.9 8675 5.6 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Ja10 16147 10.6 2539 1.6 18686 12.2 9161 6.0 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Ja11 14937 09.8 2800 1.8 17737 11.6 9027 5.9 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Ja12 13541 08.8 2809 1.9 16350 10.7 8747 5.7 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Ja13 13181 08.5 2443 1.6 15624 10.1 8506 5.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Ja14 10855 07.0 2592 1.7 13447 08.7 7617 4.9 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Ja15 09498 06.1 2234 1.4 11732 07.5 7125 4.6 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Ja16 08309 05.3 2089 1.3 10398 06.6 6234 4.0 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Ja17 08149 05.1 1752 1.1 09901 06.2 6127 3.9 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0


Ja18 07189 04.5 1653 1.0 08842 05.5 5380 3.4 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Fb18 07091 04.4 1602 1.0 08693 05.4 5241 3.2 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mr18 06671 04.1 1454 0.9 08125 05.0 4975 3.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Ap18 05932 03.7 1362 0.8 07294 04.5 4631 2.9 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My18 05657 03.6 1455 0.9 07112 04.4 4677 2.9 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jn18 06812 04.2 1437 0.9 08249 05.1 4974 3.0 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jl18 06730 04.1 1498 0.9 08228 05.0 4701 2.9 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Au18 06370 03.9 1443 0.9 07813 04.8 4263 2.6 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Se18 05766 03.6 1577 1.0 07343 04.5 4238 2.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oc18 05771 03.5 1491 0.9 07262 04.5 4169 2.6 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0
Nv18 05650 03.5 1678 1.0 07328 04.5 4512 2.8 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dc18 06029 03.7 1556 0.9 07585 04.6 4621 2.8 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Ja19 07140 04.4 1614 1.0 08754 05.4 5543 3.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Fe19 06625 04.1 1424 0.9 08049 04.9 4477 2.8 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mr19 06382 03.9 1357 0.8 07739 04.8 4548 2.8 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Ap19 05387 03.3 1417 0.9 06804 04.2 4424 2.7 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
My19 05503 03.4 1395 0.9 06898 04.2 4070 2.5 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jn19 06292 03.8 1571 1.0 07863 04.8 4529 2.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jl19 06556 04.0 1478 0.9 08034 04.9 4017 2.4 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Au19 06203 03.8 1564 1.0 07767 04.7 4237 2.6 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Se19 05465 03.3 1299 0.8 06764 04.1 3925 2.4 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oc19 05510 03.3 1229 0.7 06739 04.1 3961 2.4 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nv19 05441 03.3 1246 0.8 06687 04.1 4053 2.5 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dc19 05503 03.4 1246 0.8 06749 04.1 4170 2.5 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Ja20 06504 04.0 1464 0.9 07968 04.9 4605 2.8 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Fe20 06218 03.8 1494 0.9 07712 04.7 4501 2.7 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mr20 07370 04.5 1380 0.8 08750 05.4 5788 3.6 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Ap20 22504 14.4 2211 1.4 24715 15.9 10524 6.8 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
My20 20514 13.0 2292 1.5 22806 14.4 10286 6.5 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jn20 18072 11.2 2486 1.5 20558 12.8 9210 5.7 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jl20 16882 10.5 2027 1.3 18909 11.7 8521 5.3 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Au20 13742 08.5 2083 1.3 15825 09.8 7387 4.6 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Se20 12277 07.7 1921 1.2 14199 08.9 5901 3.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oc20 10620 06.6 1923 1.2 12543 07.8 6237 3.9 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
No20 10264 06.4 2068 1.3 12332 07.7 6423 4.0 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dc20 10404 06.5 2197 1.4 12601 07.9 6133 3.8 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Ja21 10851 06.8 2053 1.3 12904 08.1 6284 3.9 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Fe21 10486 06.6 1942 1.2 12428 07.8 6199 3.9 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mr21 09905 06.2 1783 1.1 11688 07.3 5859 3.7 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Ap21 09220 05.7 1763 1.1 10983 06.8 4968 3.1 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
My21 08829 05.5 1872 1.2 10701 06.7 5016 3.1 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jn21 09883 06.1 1856 1.1 11739 07.2 4776 2.9 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jl21 09221 05.7 1923 1.2 11144 06.8 4526 2.8 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Au21 08556 05.3 1558 1.0 10114 06.3 4309 2.7 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9
Se21 07366 04.6 1732 1.1 09098 05.6 4077 2.5 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1
Oc21 06896 04.3 1638 1.0 08534 05.3 3998 2.5 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7



Jl12 13400 08.6 2529 1.6 15929 10.2 8218 5.2 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 2561 1.6 15257 09.8 7723 5.0 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 2517 1.6 14259 09.2 8003 5.2 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 2433 1.6 14174 09.1 7768 5.0 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 2505 1.6 13909 09.0 7898 5.1 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.

Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure. It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
By 2016 the Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time counts were more than the Fake Unemployment count.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.
For March 2019, the Marginally Attached raw count is the lowest since Jan 2001, and the percentage of 0.8 is the lowest on the table.
Comparing to March 2018, the U-3 is 0.2% less, the Marginally Attached is 0.1% less, the Involuntary Part-Time is 0.3% less, and the U-6 is 0.6% less.
Most of the time, the April U-6 drops about 0.8%, so next month we'll likely see record low numbers across the board.
For April 2021, BLS admits that March had 636,000 unemployed counted as employed, and in April had 1,200,000 unemployed counted as employed.

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This Table of Data, which includes Not Fully Employed Rate.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-3

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.

The 1st column of numbers is the Unemployed.
The 2nd column is what is called Marginally Attached to the Labor Force, which is included in the Want A Job Now category but NOT included in the Labor Force category and therefore excluded from the reported Unemployment category.
The 3rd column is the Involuntary Part-Time workers, who are Not Employed Full Time due to poor Economy, and want, are able to work FT. The 4th column of numbers is the sum of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd columns. 5th column is the Rate for column 4 figure, divided by Labor Force.

The 6th column of numbers is the Subtotal of columns 1 and 3, Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time.
The 7th column is Labor Force minus column 6. This is also Employed minus column 3 Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 8th column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 9th column is the Civilian Population. 10th column is Labor Force, 11th column is Participation Rate. 12th column is the published U-6 figure.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%
Jan94 09492 2120 4963 16575 12.8 14455 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0
Jan95 08101 1783 4620 14504 11.1 12721 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1
Jan96 08270 1737 4103 14110 10.7 12373 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8 10.8
Jan97 07933 1615 4338 13886 10.3 12271 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4 10.4
Jan98 07069 1479 4090 12638 09.3 11159 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6 09.3
Jan99 06604 1358 3645 11607 08.4 10249 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7 08.5
Jan00 06316 1197 3355 10868 07.8 09671 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9 07.8
Jan01 06647 1290 3559 11496 08.2 10206 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9 08.1
Jan02 08935 1509 4249 14693 10.4 13184 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2 10.5

Jan02 09051 1532 4453 15036 10.5 13504 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2 10.5
Jan03 09395 1598 5003 15996 11.0 14398 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1 11.0
Jan04 09144 1670 5152 15966 10.9 14296 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7 10.9
Jan05 08444 1804 4793 15041 10.2 13237 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4 10.2
Jan06 07608 1644 4513 13765 09.2 12122 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5 09.2
Jan07 07649 1577 4620 13846 09.1 12269 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9 09.1
Jan08 08221 1729 5235 15185 09.9 13456 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7 09.9
Jan09 13009 2130 8675 23814 15.5 21684 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4 15.4
Jan10 16147 2539 9161 27847 18.2 25308 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6 18.0
Jan11 14937 2800 9027 26764 17.5 23964 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9 17.3
Jan12 13541 2809 8747 25097 16.4 22288 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4 16.2
Jan13 13181 2443 8506 24130 15.6 21687 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3 15.4
Jan14 10855 2592 7617 21064 13.6 18472 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5 13.5
Jan15 09498 2234 7125 18857 12.1 16623 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5 12.0
Jan16 08309 2089 6234 16632 10.6 14543 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3 10.5
Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0



Jan17 08149 1752 6127 16028 10.1 14276 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5 10.1
Feb17 07887 1723 5700 15310 09.6 13587 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7 09.5
Mar17 07289 1595 5498 14381 09.0 12787 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9 08.9
Apr17 06555 1534 4990 13079 08.2 11545 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8 08.1
My 17 06572 1475 4994 13041 08.2 11566 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8 08.1
Jun17 07250 1582 5555 14387 08.9 12805 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3 08.9
Jul17 07441 1629 5430 14500 09.0 12871 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5 08.9
Aug17 07287 1548 5130 13965 08.7 12417 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0 08.6
Sep17 06556 1569 4740 12865 08.0 11296 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0 08.0
Oct17 06242 1535 4496 12273 07.6 10738 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7 07.6
Nov17 06286 1481 4554 12321 07.7 10840 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7 07.7
Dec17 06278 1623 4992 12893 08.1 11270 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4 08.0

Jan18 07189 1653 5380 14222 08.9 12569 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3 08.9
Feb18 07091 1602 5241 13934 08.6 12332 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9 08.6
Mar18 06671 1454 4975 13100 08.1 11646 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8 08.1
Apr18 05932 1362 4631 11925 07.4 10563 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7 07.4
My 18 05657 1455 4677 11789 07.3 10334 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8 07.3
Jun18 06812 1437 4974 13223 08.1 11786 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4 08.1
Jul18 06730 1498 4701 12929 07.9 11431 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5 07.9
Aug18 06370 1443 4263 12076 07.4 10633 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7 07.4
Sep18 05766 1577 4238 11581 07.2 10004 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7 07.1
Oct18 05771 1491 4169 11431 07.0 09940 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9 07.0

Nov18 05650 1678 4512 11840 07.3 10162 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9 07.2
Dec18 06029 1556 4621 12206 07.4 10650 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8 07.5

Jan19 07140 1614 5543 14297 08.8 12683 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8 08.8
Feb19 06625 1424 4477 12526 07.7 11102 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0 07.7
Mar19 06382 1357 4548 12287 07.5 10930 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0 07.5
Apr19 05387 1417 4424 11228 06.9 09811 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7 06.9
May19 05503 1395 4070 10968 06.7 09573 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8 06.7
Jun19 06292 1571 4529 12391 07.5 10820 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4 07.5
Jul19 06556 1478 4017 12051 07.3 10573 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6 07.3
Aug19 06203 1564 4237 12004 07.3 10440 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2 07.3
Sep19 05465 1299 3925 10689 06.5 09390 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1 06.5
Oct19 05510 1229 3961 10700 06.5 09471 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3 06.5
Nov19 05441 1246 4053 10740 06.5 09494 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2 06.5
Dec19 05503 1246 4170 10919 06.7 09673 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0 06.7

Jan20 06504 1464 4605 12573 07.7 11109 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0 07.7
Feb20 06218 1494 4501 12213 07.4 10719 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3 07.4
Mar20 07370 1380 5788 14538 08.9 13158 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6 08.9
Apr20 22504 2211 10524 35239 22.6 33028 122802 52.7 259896 155830 60.0 22.4
May20 20514 2292 10286 33092 20.9 30800 127175 51.1 260047 157975 60.7 20.7
Jun20 18072 2486 9210 29768 18.5 27282 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8 18.3
Jul20 16882 2027 8521 27430 17.0 25403 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0 16.8
Aug20 13742 2083 7387 23212 14.4 21129 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8 14.3
Sep20 12277 1921 5901 20099 12.6 18178 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4 12.4
Oct20 10620 1923 6237 18780 11.7 16857 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7 11.6
Nov20 10264 2068 6423 18755 11.7 16687 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5 11.6

Dec20 10404 2197 6133 18732 11.7 16537 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3 11.6

Jan21 10851 2053 6284 19188 12.1 17135 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0 12.0
Feb21 10486 1942 6199 19743 12.3 16685 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3 11.6
Mar21 09905 1783 5859 17547 10.9 15764 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5 10.9
Apr21 09220 1763 4968 15951 09.9 14188 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4 09.9
May21 08829 1872 5016 15717 09.8 13845 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5 09.7
Jun21 09883 1856 4776 16515 10.2 14659 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1 10.1
Jul21 09221 1923 4526 15670 09.6 13747 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3 09.6
Aug21 08556 1558 4309 14423 08.9 12865 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8 08.9
Sep21 07366 1732 4077 13175 08.2 11443 149949 42.7% 261766 161392 61.7 08.1
Oct21 06896 1638 3998 12532 07.7 10894 150498 42.5% 262908 161863 61.8 07.7


Mo/Yr Unem MrgAt InvPT Totl Prct SbTtl AcEmpl NotEm CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6%


Jul12 13400 2529 8218 24147 15.4 21618 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3
Aug12 12696 2561 7723 22980 14.8 20419 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7
Sep12 11742 2517 8003 22262 14.4 19745 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6
Oct12 11741 2433 7768 21942 14.1 19509 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8
Nov12 11404 2505 7898 21807 14.1 19302 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5


General color-coding guidelines:
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column in the Table.
This color mostly highlights the most favorable figure of it's column since 9/11, or else since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession.
This color highlights the worst figures in it's column in the Table, including loss of Labor Force count.


Quote:

Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.
With Obamanomics pushing more into the Involuntary Part-Time group, this also got bloated to disguise the horrible Unemployment problems, and this Rate did not return to 2008 level until 2018.

The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.


The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 8th column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working, and compare to other periods since U-6 was created. These 2 figures help show how the Labor Force Participation Rate and U-6 realistically work together.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

One comparison of note for July 2018: in the past 2 months (since schools were in session), the Labor Force has increased by almost 2 million, but the sums of Unemployed and Involuntary Part-time have only increased 1.1 million. This means that about 900,000 of fresh schooling products have been absorbed by the demand from employers, in only 2 months.
For February 2019, not much spectacular is shown. Mostly a return of most figures to the trends present in the December figures, which were prior to the Pelosi Shutdown of Government.
Of some interest is that this indicates that the January U-6 figure without the Pelosi Shutdown would have been about 8.0%. Since I had chosen to use January as the annual snapshot representation of all the years, this leaves this one year a blip out of context. All other Januarys have similar situations and templates, and 2019 has no similar comparison.
This 8.0% realistic comparison figure would have been the 2nd best on the table, behind 7.8% in 2000.
One thing I had not continued to noticed before. After Obamanomics was able to get the total of Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-Time higher than the U-3 Unemployment Rate by Jan 2016, Trump was able to keep that balance reversed until Oct 2018, except for Dec 2017. The U-3 is the larger, more stable and consistent of all the subcomponents of the U-6, and the other 2 are just bloated from Obamanomics.
Following the 2018 Midterm Elections, this balanced switched again for Nov, Dec, Jan. But now for Feb and March, the balance is restored and the subtotal is lower than the Unemployment Rate.



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The shadowstats site is lean on actual data, requiring a subscription to access what it claims as database.
However, I will make attempt to add in some of the data it presents. This does make assumption that their methodology and counting methods are valid, which I cannot find clear information about.
There also may be comingling of Seasonally Adjusted figures from shadowstats without clarity, but this will be the only series of Tables I post which veer from Not Seasonally Adjusted figures.

The charts they present do show that Unemployment under Trump is better than any time under Obamanomics, so it may be a worthwhile endeavor to investigate.




I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-5


I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow. The documented shenanigans of Obamabots deliberately refusing to Report jobless data in the months before the 2012 Election are a different matter, I will just use the Fake Data they produced and pretend it was real.


The 1st column of numbers is the unemployed. The 2nd column is the Rate.
The 3rd column is the sum of the Unemployed plus Marginally Attached plus Involuntary Part-time. 4th column is the Rate for column 3 figure. The Rates in columns 2 and 4 have the denominator of Labor Force.
The 5th column is the Civilian Population. 6th column is Labor Force, 7th column is Participation Rate. 8th column is the published U-6 figure.
The 9th column is the Real Unemployment figure, as presented by shadowstats. The 10th column is the underreported, the difference between the U-6 figure from BLS and the Real figure from shadowstats.

Figures in thousands.

MoYr Unem Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrForc Prtc% U6% Real Separation
Ja93 09911 07.9 16575 12.8 192644 126034 65.4
Ja94 09492 07.3 16575 12.8 195953 129393 66.0 12% 15.3% 2.3%
Ja95 08101 06.2 14504 11.1 197753 130698 66.1 10% 13.5% 3.5%
Ja96 08270 06.3 14110 10.7 199634 131396 65.8 10.8% 13.5% 2.7%
Ja97 07933 05.9 13886 10.3 202285 134317 66.4 10.4% 13% 2.6%
Ja98 07069 05.2 12638 09.3 204238 135951 66.6 09.3% 12% 2.7%
Ja99 06604 04.8 11607 08.4 206719 137943 66.7 08.5% 11.5% 3.0%
Ja00 06316 04.5 10868 07.8 208782 139621 66.9 07.8% 11% 3.2%
Ja01 06647 04.7 11496 08.2 210889 141049 66.9 08.1% 10.5% 2.4%
Ja02 08935 06.3 14693 10.4 213089 141074 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%

Ja02 09051 06.3 15036 10.5 216506 143228 66.2 10.5% 13% 2.5%
Ja03 09395 06.5 15996 11.0 219897 145301 66.1 11.0% 13% 2.0%
Ja04 09144 06.3 15966 10.9 222161 146068 65.7 10.9% 14% 3.1%
Ja05 08444 05.7 15041 10.2 224837 147125 65.4 10.2% 13% 2.8%
Ja06 07608 05.1 13765 09.2 227553 149090 65.5 09.2% 12% 2.8%
Ja07 07649 05.0 13846 09.1 230650 151924 65.9 09.1% 12% 2.9%
Ja08 08221 05.4 15185 09.9 232616 152828 65.7 09.9% 13% 3.1%
Ja09 13009 08.5 23814 15.5 234739 153445 65.4 15.4% 20% 4.6%
Ja10 16147 10.6 27847 18.2 236832 152957 64.6 18.0% 22% 4.0%
Ja11 14937 09.8 26764 17.5 238704 152536 63.9 17.3% 22.5% 5.2%
Ja12 13541 08.8 25097 16.4 242269 153485 63.4 16.2% 22.5% 6.3%
Ja13 13181 08.5 24130 15.6 244663 154794 63.3 15.4% 23% 7.6%
Ja14 10855 07.0 21064 13.6 246915 154381 62.5 13.5% 23.5% 10%
Ja15 09498 06.1 18857 12.1 249723 156050 62.5 12.0% 23.5% 11.5%
Ja16 08309 05.3 16632 10.6 252397 157347 62.3 10.5% 23% 12.5%
Ja17 08149 05.1 16028 10.1 254082 158676 62.5 10.1% 23% 12.9%
Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%
Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0%
Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3%
Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7%



Ja18 07189 04.5 14222 08.9 256780 160037 62.3 08.9% 22% 13.1%
Fb18 07091 04.4 13934 08.6 256934 161494 62.9 08.6% 21.9% 13.3%
Mr18 06671 04.1 13100 08.1 257097 161548 62.8 08.1% 21.8% 13.7%
Ap18 05932 03.7 11925 07.4 257272 161280 62.7 07.4% 21.5% 14.1%
My18 05657 03.6 11789 07.3 257454 161765 62.8 07.3% 21.4% 14.1%
Jn18 06812 04.2 13223 08.1 257642 163277 63.4 08.1% 21.5% 13.4%
J l 18 06730 04.1 12929 07.9 257843 163734 63.5 07.9% 21.3% 13.4%
Au18 06370 03.9 12076 07.4 258066 161909 62.7 07.4% 21.2% 13.8%
Se18 05766 03.6 11581 07.2 258290 161958 62.7 07.1% 21.3% 14.2%
Oc18 05771 03.5 11431 07.0 258514 162723 62.9 07.0% 21.2% 14.2%
Nv18 05650 03.5 11840 07.3 258708 162665 62.9 07.2% 21.4% 14.2%
Dc18 06029 03.7 12206 07.4 258888 162510 62.8 07.5% 21.4% 13.9%

Ja19 07140 04.4 14297 08.8 258239 162104 62.8 08.8% 21.8% 13.0%
Fe19 06625 04.1 12526 07.7 258392 162793 63.0 07.7% 21.1% 13.4%
Mr19 06382 03.9 12287 07.5 258537 162823 63.0 07.5% 21.2% 13.7%
Ap19 05387 03.3 11228 06.9 258693 162097 62.7 06.9% 21.2% 14.3%
My19 05503 03.4 10968 06.7 258861 162655 62.8 06.7% 21.1% 14.4%
Jn19 06292 03.8 12392 07.5 259037 164120 63.4 07.5% 21.2% 13.7%
J l 19 06556 04.0 12051 07.3 259225 164941 63.6 07.3% 21.0% 13.7%
Au19 06203 03.8 12004 07.3 259432 164019 63.2 07.3% 21.2% 13.9%
Se19 05465 03.3 10689 06.5 259638 163943 63.1 06.5% 20.9% 14.4%
Oc19 05510 03.3 10700 06.5 259845 164576 63.3 06.5% 21.0% 14.5%
Nv19 05441 03.3 10740 06.5 260020 164386 63.2 06.5% 20.9% 14.4%
Dc19 05503 03.4 10919 06.7 260181 164007 63.0 06.7% 20.8% 14.1%

Ja20 06504 04.0 12573 07.7 259502 163497 63.0 07.7% 21.0% 13.3%
Fe20 06218 03.8 12213 07.4 259628 164235 63.3 07.4% 21.1% 13.7%
Mr20 07370 04.5 14538 08.9 259758 162537 62.6 08.9% 22.9% 14.0%
Ap20 22504 14.4 35239 22.6 259896 155830 60.0 22.4% 39.3% 16.9%
My20 20514 13.0 33092 20.9 260047 157975 60.7 20.7% 36.5% 15.8%
Jn20 18072 11.2 29768 18.5 260204 160883 61.8 18.3% 31.2% 12.9%
J l20 16882 10.5 27430 17.0 260373 161374 62.0 16.8% 30.0% 13.2%
Au20 13742 08.5 23212 14.4 260558 160966 61.8 14.3% 28.0% 13.7%
Se20 12277 07.7 20099 12.6 260742 160073 61.4 12.4% 26.9% 14.5%
Oc20 10620 06.6 18780 11.7 260925 161053 61.7 11.6% 26.3% 14.7%
No20 10264 06.4 18755 11.7 261085 160468 61.5 11.6% 26.3% 14.7%

De20 10404 06.5 18732 11.7 261230 160017 61.3 11.6% 26.2% 14.6%

Ja21 10851 06.8 19188 12.1 260851 159234 61.0 12.0% 25.7% 13.7%
Fe21 10486 06.6 19743 12.3 260918 160008 61.3 11.6% 25.8% 14.2%
Mr21 09905 06.2 17547 10.9 261003 160397 61.5 10.9% 25.7% 14.8%
Ap21 09220 05.7 15951 09.9 261103 160379 61.4 09.9% 25.5% 15.6%
My21 08829 05.5 15717 09.8 261210 160607 61.5 09.7% 26.0% 16.3%
Jn21 09883 06.1 16515 10.2 261338 162167 62.1 10.1% 25.8% 15.7%
J l21 09221 05.7 15670 09.6 261469 162817 62.3 09.6% 25.4% 15.8%
Au21 08556 05.3 14423 08.9 261611 161788 61.8 08.9% 25.4% 16.5%
Se21 07366 04.6 13175 08.2 261766 161392 61.7 08.1% 25.1% 17.0%
Oc21 06896 04.3 12532 07.7 261908 161863 61.8 07.7% 25.1% 17.4%


J l 12 13400 08.6 24147 15.4 243354 156526 64.3
Au12 12696 08.2 22980 14.8 243566 155255 63.7
Se12 11742 07.6 22262 14.4 243772 155075 63.6
Oc12 11741 07.5 21942 14.1 243983 155779 63.8
Nv12 11404 07.4 21807 14.1 244174 154953 63.5


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Comparing to The Great Depression: the Unemployment peaked in 1933 at 24.75% with 12.830 Million unemployed. In 1932 there were 12.060 M unemployed, and 11.340M in 1934, 10.610 in 1935.
The 5 year stretch from 2009 to 2014 exceeded 12.9 Million each year, more Unemployed than the Great Depression. And 2014 was only less with the Fake figure, but including Marginally Attached was still more than Great Depression.

The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
The Unemployment Rate was almost doubled by Jan 2010, and the Fake figure didn't return to 2008 level until Jan 2016. This figure after 2008 was able to be artificially less by shifting more unemployed into the Marginally Attached category, which Obamanomics managed to almost double. This Jan figure didn't return to 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. With 10 Million in 2008, this count did not fall back to sub-10 Million until 2017.

A key factor that shadowstats points out is that the feeder category, the category which generates the discrepancy between BLS Fiction and reality, is the Marginally Attached. When Obamanomics doubled this figure, it was able to permanently exclude these Unemployed from the stats for the remainder of the Obamanomics Stagnation Extended Recession.
It was much more difficult for Obama to expell his victims from the BLS rolls around 2011 when Unemployment was so bad there were Extended Benefits, (so applicants were required to document work searches before getting Unemployment Insurance Payments) - and this part of the Work Force could not be deleted from the Labor Force until they stopped documenting their search for work.


The figure of Unemployed plus Marginally Attached is indisputably the real Unfake Unemployment figure since the Redefining of 1994 (which shadowstats states was to cover up the Losses of Employment from NAFTA). It does not return to Jan 2008 level until 2017, after Trump was Elected. For April 2018 this figure is lower than any January figure since it was created in 1994.


The Jan Rate of all 3 categories combined of Obamanomics Unemployment did not fall back to 2008 level until 2018.
The Shadowstats figure for Jan 2019 shows the difference (bloat) is less than the prior Jan figure, for the first time since 2010.
So I assume this would mean that the bloat of Long-term Unemployed is being chipped away by Trump. Either by re-employment or transition to Retirement age, or both.
But this extra 9% of the Population that Obamanomics forced to Unemployment can now be whittled away and not expanded by default, only by actions such as the 2018 Elections.
For September 2019, even Shadowstats begrudgingly dropped below 21% for the first time since 2009.
Wow. For Dec 2019, even Shadow Stats has dropped to it's lowest figure in years. Next month could mark a 10-year low.




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Friday, November 5, 2021 5:54 PM

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This Table of Data, which breaks down the numerical changes in the key figures.

I will refer to this set of data as Table JSF-URF-6

I will post some actual numbers and let the comparisons and discussion follow.

The BLS uses both Seasonally Adjusted figures and Unadjusted figures, and interchanges them without clearly identifying so. I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Some numbers may have a 0 placed as first digit, to maintain column form in this format.


The 1st column is Labor Force minus both Unemployed and Involuntary Part-Time. This is also Employed minus Involuntary Part-Time. This is not a figure identified by BLS, so I will call it Actually Fully Employed. This is Employed Full-time plus Voluntary Part-Time.

Not listed, but Civilian noninstitutional Population minus Actually Fully Employed is also a figure avoided by BLS, and I will call it Not Fully Employed, which is Unemployed plus Involuntary Part-Time plus Marginally Attached plus Not In Labor Force. The 2nd column is Not Fully Employed Rate, which is divided by Civilian noninstitutional Population.

The 3rd column is the Civilian Population. 4th column is Labor Force, 5th column is Participation Rate.

After the separation bar, the 7th column is the Increase in Civilian Population from the previous entry. For the entries by year, this is the 12 month Increase. For the entries broken down by month, this is the 1 month Increase.
The 8th column is the Increase in Labor Force from the previous entry.
The 9th column is the Increase in Actually Fully Employed count, from the previous entry.

In the monthly breakdown for 2018, after the second separation bar, the 10th column is the Civilian Population Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 11th column is the Labor Force Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 12th column is the Actually Fully Employed Increase from the entry 12 months prior.
The 13th column is the amount that the 12th column exceeds the 10th column, or the amount of Unemployed that is being chipped away, despite manipulation of other figures.

Figures in thousands.

Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc
Jan94 114938 41.3% 195953 129393 66.0% |
Jan95 117923 40.4% 197753 130698 66.1% | 1800 1305 02985/+1185
Jan96 119023 40.4% 199634 131396 65.8% | 1881 0698 01100/-0781
Jan97 122046 39.7% 202285 134317 66.4% | 2651 2921 03023/+0372
Jan98 124798 38.9% 204238 135951 66.6% | 1953 1634 02752/+0799
Jan99 127694 38.2% 206719 137943 66.7% | 2481 1992 02896/+0415
Jan00 129950 37.8% 208782 139621 66.9% | 2063 1678 02256/+0193
Jan01 130843 38.0% 210889 141049 66.9% | 2107 1428 00893/-1214
Jan02 127890 40.0% 213089 141074 66.2% | 2200 0025 -2953/-5153

Jan02 129724 40.1% 216506 143228 66.2% | 5617 2179 -1119/-6736
Jan03 130903 40.5% 219897 145301 66.1% | 3391 2073 01179/-2212
Jan04 131772 40.7% 222161 146068 65.7% | 2264 0767 00869/-1395
Jan05 133888 40.5% 224837 147125 65.4% | 2676 1057 02116/-0560
Jan06 136978 39.8% 227553 149090 65.5% | 2716 1965 03090/+0374
Jan07 139655 39.5% 230650 151924 65.9% | 3097 2834 02677/-0420
Jan08 139372 40.1% 232616 152828 65.7% | 1966 0904 -0283/-2249
Jan09 131761 43.9% 234739 153445 65.4% | 2123 0617 -7611/-9734
Jan10 127649 46.1% 236832 152957 64.6% | 2093 -488 -4112/-6205
Jan11 128572 46.1% 238704 152536 63.9% | 1872 -421 00923/-0949
Jan12 131197 45.8% 242269 153485 63.4% | 3565 0949 02625/-0940
Jan13 133107 45.6% 244663 154794 63.3% | 2394 1309 01910/-0484
Jan14 135909 45.0% 246915 154381 62.5% | 2252 -413 02802/+0550
Jan15 139427 44.2% 249723 156050 62.5% | 2808 1669 03518/+0710
Jan16 142804 43.4% 252397 157347 62.3% | 2664 1297 03377/+0713
Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% | 1685 1329 01596/-0089
Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 2698 1361 03068/+0370
Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% | 1459 2067 01953/+0494
Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% | 1263 1393 02967/+1704
Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% | 1349 -4263 -12235/-13584



Jan17 144400 43.2% 254082 158676 62.5% |
Feb17 145895 42.6% 254246 159482 62.7% | 164 00806 01495
Mar17 147125 42.2% 254414 159912 62.9% | 168 00430 01230
Apr17 148272 41.8% 254588 159817 62.8% | 174 -0095 00147
My 17 148413 41.7% 254767 159979 62.8% | 179 00162 00141
Jun17 148532 41.7% 254957 161337 63.3% | 190 01358 00119
Jul17 149040 41.6% 255151 161911 63.5% | 194 00574 00508
Aug17 148446 41.9% 255357 160863 63.0% | 206 -1048 -0594
Sep17 149753 41.4% 255562 161049 63.0% | 205 00186 01307
Oct17 149727 41.5% 255766 160465 62.7% | 204 -0584 -0026
Nov17 149626 41.5% 255949 160466 62.7% | 183 00001 -0101
Dec17 148610 42.0% 256109 159880 62.4% | 160 -0586 -1016

Jan18 147468 42.6% 256780 160037 62.3% | 671 00157 -1142 | 2698 1361 3068 +370
Feb18 149162 41.9% 256934 161494 62.9% | 154 01457 01694 | 2688 2012 3267 +579
Mar18 149902 41.7% 257097 161548 62.8% | 163 00054 00740 | 2681 1636 2777 +096
Apr18 150717 41.4% 257272 161280 62.7% | 175 -0268 00815 | 2684 1463 2445 -239
My 18 151431 41.2% 257454 161765 62.8% | 182 00485 00714 | 2687 1786 3028 +341
Jun18 151491 41.2% 257642 163277 63.4% | 188 01512 00060 | 2685 1940 2959 +274
Jul18 152303 40.9% 257843 163734 63.5% | 201 00457 00812 | 2692 1823 3262 +570
Aug18 151276 41.4% 258066 161909 62.7% | 223 -1825 -1027 | 2709 1046 2830 +121
Sep18 151954 41.2% 258290 161958 62.7% | 224 00049 00678 | 2341 0909 2201 -140
Oct18 152783 40.9% 258514 162723 62.9% | 224 00765 00829 | 2748 2218 3056 +308
Nov18 152503 41.1% 258708 162665 62.9% | 194 -0058 -0280 | 2759 2199 2877 +118
Dec18 151860 41.3% 258888 162510 62.8% | 180 -0155 -0643 | 2779 2630 3250 +471

Jan19 149421 42.1% 258239 162104 62.8% |-649 -0406 -2439 | 1459 2067 1953 +494
Feb19 151691 41.3% 258392 162793 63.0% | 153 00689 02270 | 1458 1299 2529 1071
Mar19 151893 41.2% 258537 162823 63.0% | 145 00030 00202 | 1440 1275 1991 +551
Apr19 152286 41.1% 258693 162097 62.7% | 156 -0726 00393 | 1421 0817 1569 +148
May19 153082 40.9% 258861 162655 62.8% | 168 00558 00796 | 1407 0890 1651 +244
Jun19 153300 40.8% 259037 164120 63.4% | 176 01465 00218 | 1395 0843 1809 +414
Jul19 154368 40.5% 259225 164941 63.6% | 188 00821 01068 | 1382 1207 2065 +683
Aug19 153579 40.8% 259432 164019 63.2% | 207 -0922 -0789 | 1366 2110 2303 +937
Sep19 154553 40.5% 259638 163943 63.1% | 216 -0076 00974 | 1348 1985 2599 1251
Oct19 155472 40.2% 259845 164576 63.3% | 207 00633 00919 | 1331 1853 2689 1358
Nov19 154892 40.4% 260020 164386 63.2% | 175 -0190 -0580 | 1312 1721 2389 1077
Dec19 154334 40.7% 260181 164007 63.0% | 161 -0379 -0558 | 1293 1493 2474 1181

Jan20 152388 41.3% 259502 163497 63.0% |-679 -0510 -1946 | 1263 1393 2967 1704
Feb20 153516 40.9% 259628 164235 63.3% | 126 00738 01128 | 1236 1442 1845 +609
Mar20 149389 42.5% 259758 162537 62.6% | 130 -1698 -4127 | 1221 -286 -2504
Apr20 122802 52.7% 259896 155830 60.0% | 138 -6707 -26587 | 1203 -6267 -29494
May20 127175 51.1% 260047 157975 60.7% | 151 02145 04373 | 1186 -4680 -25907
Jun20 133601 48.7% 260204 160883 61.8% | 157 02908 06426 | 1167 -4058 -19699
Jul20 135971 47.8% 260373 161374 62.0% | 169 00491 02370 | 1148 -3567 -18397
Aug20 139837 46.3% 260558 160966 61.8% | 185 -0408 03834 | 1126 -3053 -13742
Sep20 141895 45.6% 260742 160073 61.4% | 184 -0893 02058 | 1104 -3870 -12658
Oct20 144196 44.7% 260925 161053 61.7% | 183 00980 02301 | 1080 -3523 -11276
Nov20 143781 44.9% 261085 160468 61.5% | 160 -0585 -0415 | 1065 -3918 -11111

Dec20 143480 45.1% 261230 160017 61.3% | 145 -0451 -0301 | 1049 -3990 -10854

Jan21 142099 45.5% 260851 159234 61.0% |-379 -0783 -1381 | 1349 -4263 -12235
Feb21 143323 45.1% 260918 160008 61.3% | 067 00774 01224 | 1290 -4227 -10193
Mar21 144633 44.6% 261003 160397 61.5% | 085 00389 01310 | 1245 -2140 -4756(-7260)
Apr21 146191 44.0% 261103 160379 61.4% | 100 -0018 01558 | 1207 4549 23389(-6105)
May21 146762 43.8% 261210 160607 61.5% | 107 00228 00571 | 1163 2632 19587(-6320)
Jun21 147508 43.6% 261338 162167 62.1% | 128 01560 00746 | 1134 1284 13907(-5792)
Jul21 149070 43.0% 261469 162817 62.3% | 131 00650 01562 | 1096 1443 13099(-5298)
Aug21 148923 43.1% 261611 161788 61.8% | 142 -1029 -0147 | 1053 0822 9086(-4656)
Sep21 149949 42.7% 261766 161392 61.7% | 155 -0396 01026 | 1024 1319 8054(-4604)
Oct21 150498 42.5% 261908 161863 61.8% | 142 00471 00549 | 0984 0810 6302(-4974)



Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | CPIn LFIn AEInc | CPIn LFIn AEInc
Mo/Yr AcEmpl NtEm CiviPop LbrFrc Prtc% | \SincLastMonth/ | \SinceLastYear/


Jul12 134908 44.1% 243354 156526 64.3 |
Aug12 134836 44.6% 243566 155255 63.7 | 212 -1271 -0072
Sep12 135330 44.5% 243772 155075 63.6 | 206 -0180 00494
Oct12 136270 44.1% 243983 155779 63.8 | 211 00704 00940
Nov12 135651 44.4% 244174 154953 63.5 | 191 -1174 -0619

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The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated. Except possibly 2010, 2011, 2016.

The Labor Force Participation Rate steadily dropped each year until finally reversing in 2017, Trump's first year.

Some have mentioned concern regard a tight Labor Market, too many vacant jobs without enough bodies to fill them.
But we should remember to consider the Labor Participation Rate. At the turn of the century it was around 67%, and in the later Bush43 period it was 66%.
Just because Obamanomics was able to drive it down to the 62% range does not mean that is the new norm. That 5% loss of Participation Rate amounts to about 13 Million potential employees.
Sure, they may not need to live in their mom's basement anymore if they become employed, but life can just be rough.


In the previous Tables of data, we can see that as far as common Indicators are concerned, all figures, totals, and Subtotals are at or near all-time lows (since the creation of U-6 in 1994) under Trump. But the categories are still manipulated, and potentially misrepresented.
So to help understand how much of the population is actually not allowed to be Employed Full-time when they want to, I have included in the above Table the 2nd column of numbers, the Not Fully Employed Rate, which is a percentage of the Civilian noninstitutional Population. Because of the much larger denominator this figure will not have such drastic swings as other figures reported. This can help demonstrate how many are still able to fill a "tight Labor Market" which some are worried about. It can also provide an unvarnished picture of how many are not working.

Even with this new figure, it is the lowest since the Rock-The-Vote Democrat Recession, which began October 2007 at the start of FY2008.

I am really impressed with how well this Table 6 presents the data.

The problem of data manipulation is driven by the desire for Fake Headlines. I have attempted to circumvent the Fake Data by looking at it in a way which avoids the manipulations.
I don't feel the Civilian noninstitutional Population is easily manipulated or faked, and I have not heard claims of such. This could be thought of as birthing rates, just delayed by 16-18 years until chillen are job-ready.
I also don't feel that the count of who is actually Employed is being consistently faked or manipulated - what would be the point of any of that? Both Full-Time and Voluntary Part-Time would apply here. Why would either employers or employees lie about that?
The figure which is fiddled and manipulated mostly seems to be how many are "Unemployed" and, therefore, the "Labor Force" figure. I do not argue that. But this Table presents data circumventing that manipulation.
Other manipulating and faking occur with "Seasonally Adjusted" counts and calculations, which the Shadow Stats site comments on a lot. I have been avoiding these numbers in this thread, using only non-adjusted figures. However, this does allow fluctuations of different months and seasons to show up, and can be more difficult to filter and interpret, and interpolate.

For the yearly January counts, the table shows the Increase of the Civilian Population, and also the Increase of the Actually Fully Employed, compared to the count 12 months prior.
For the monthly breakdowns, the first sets show the Increase from the month before.
But for the breakdown of 2018 months, the second sets show the Increase from the prior same month, 12 months before. This is a figure which ignores Seasonal variations, because last year the same month was in the same season. Also, these figures can be compared to the historical trend, because all of these figures are on a 12-month scale.

By this method, we can clearly see that in the past 12 months, only 2 months (April and September) had an Increase in Actually Fully Employed which was less than the Increase in Civilian Population.
This shows that for 10 of the months, the AE Increase was greater than the CivPop Increase! Meaning that for every single fresh newly added Civilian, there was a job to absorb them, AND also additional jobs to suck out more workers from the "Unemployed" cloud, no matter how they were categorized. That means that the job growth is certainly chipping away at the portion of Labor Force which is non Employed, or not Fully Employed.
To be clear: to maintain Par, the Actually Fully Employed Increase would only need to keep pace with the Increase of Labor Force - which is less than 2/3 of the Civilian Population. But the AE Inc is not only blowing past that Par figure, it is even exceeding the raw count of the full Civilian noninstitutional Population Increase! In February and July it was a half million more, even with a reportedly tight labor market.
This is seen as the last column being a greater number than the third-to-last column.

And even the stated Labor Force Increase over 12 months prior (second to last column) is a positive number every month this year, no losses.

I hope this makes sense.
I am certainly interested in hearing valid arguments about how or why this is not a clear presentation of the data.

This does help show a consistent trend for the year, and can predict that next month (Jan 2019) will show an improvement in the Labor Force Participation Rate, about 0.5% higher than January 2018.

I guess that last statement could be considered a prediction, which was proven True.
For March 2019: from Jan 2018 to Jan 2019 the Actual Fully Employed figure increased by almost a half million beyond the total increase in Civilian noninstitutional Population. Meaning not only every additional person added to the available Population, but an additional half million who were previously in an unemployed or underemployed category.
For the months Jan-Mar 2018, the average was 348,000 (compared to the same month, prior year).
For the months Jan-Mar 2019, the average is 705,000.
For April 2019: For the months Jan-Apr 2018, the average was 202,000.
For the months Jan-Apr 2019, the average was 566,000.
For June 2019, that final column shows 9 consecutive months without a negative.
The average for that figure from Jan-Jun 2018 was 274, and same for 2019 is 487. At this pace, it seems that by Aug or Sep the Involutary Part-Time will be lower than any January figure, and the Not Fully Employed will be the lowest since the start of the Rock-The-Vote Recession, and the U6 will be even lower than the past few months.
September 2019: that last column, not only is the highest margin of additionally employed on the chart (while last September was a negative), but also marks 12 consecutive months of plusses, no negatives for any month. And this shows the increase of Actually Fully Employed is almost twice the amount that the Civilian Population increased. That is why the Labor Participation Rate is hovering around 1/2 percent better than the preceeding year.
For August 2020, that last column shows that more than half of the lost jobs have been recovered.
For Mar 2021, The disaster of Lord Darth Obiden has finally managed to get the Not Fully Employed percent down to what Trump achieved by last October. But the Participation rate is still not up to the level Trump had last October. And keeping the Labor Force artificially depressed.



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Friday, November 5, 2021 11:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Something that I had not exactly noticed in the same context:
The difference between the Civ Pop and the Labor Force, or "Those not in the Labor Force" - or Civ Pop minus Labor Force.

Never before the Libtard Lockdowns had this figure exceeded 100 million. Not even during the 2001/2 economic hit, the 2008 Rock-The-Vote Recession, or the 8 years of Obamination stagnated recession.

From April to May 2020, and September 2020, and November to May 2021, the difference has exceeded 100 million.
Under Lord Darth Obiden, only Jun-Aug 2021 were allowed to drop below 100 million.



The Not Fully Employed percentage is finally down to 42.5%, the same as March 2020. Trump had improved it 8% prior to the Fake Election, and Obiden has improved it 2% since then.

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tomorrow the Unemployment report will likely show that the Civ Pop increase of the past year will be less than 1 million, for the first time since this version of report figures was created (under Clinton).

Annnnnd...
Yep, it was.

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 4:50 AM

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I love how they're calling the last month's numbers a win when it's still 200k less than they expected the previous month before the abysmal numbers came in.

And they're still ignoring all the people who dropped out.

Unemployment is not under 5% by a longshot.

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 8:04 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Blue line - Unemployment Rate (right scale)
Red Line - All Employees, Total Nonfarm (left scale)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IBvp


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 9:27 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Layoffs, wages, and labor costs: three measures of the labor Boom

The recovery from the pandemic has been the best time to be a worker since the late 1990s Boom.

More at http://bonddad.blogspot.com/2021/11/layoffs-wages-and-labor-costs-thre
e.html


Employment Cost Index (ECI): Wages and Salaries: Private Industry Workers

What is noteworthy about the ECI is that it tracks compensation *normalized for the type of job,* i.e., it isn’t influenced by a different mix of high wage vs. low wage jobs. Dishwashers are compared with dishwashers, and so on.
The Year over Year increase of 4.6% was a record:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IBAb


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Blue line - Unemployment Rate (right scale)
Red Line - All Employees, Total Nonfarm (left scale)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IBvp


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Yup. Thanks for showing a graph that illustrates the lies I mentioned.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Unemployment is not under 5% by a longshot.

Yup. Thanks for showing a graph that illustrates the lies I mentioned.

Is this one of those things where more than 5% of the people you know are unemployed, therefore the NATIONAL unemployment must be more than 5%? Maybe you know too many people who are unemployable due to their psychological factors, e.g. they are crazy, lazy, drug hazy, lost souls?

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Saturday, November 6, 2021 5:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Unemployment is not under 5% by a longshot.

Yup. Thanks for showing a graph that illustrates the lies I mentioned.

Is this one of those things where more than 5% of the people you know are unemployed, therefore the NATIONAL unemployment must be more than 5%? Maybe you know too many people who are unemployable due to their psychological factors, e.g. they are crazy, lazy, drug hazy, lost souls?



No. It's me still calling bullshit.

I called bullshit when Trump said unemployment was lower than it was while he was President, and I'm calling bullshit now.

Unlike you, I actually have a leg to stand on because I'm not a hypocrite like you are.

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No. It's me still calling bullshit.

Where did you get your still unspecified unemployment numbers? If the source is you and your feelings, it is you full bullshit. Or it could be your mind is hazy from past drinking and past contact with Covid-19. Either could make you think you know far more than you know in the form of delusions of adequacy.


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Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:53 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. It's me still calling bullshit.

Where did you get your still unspecified unemployment numbers? If the source is you and your feelings, it is you full bullshit. Or it could be your mind is hazy from past drinking and past contact with Covid-19. Either could make you think you know far more than you know in the form of delusions of adequacy.



What, are you a fuckin moron?

Even the most biased sources tell you in the fine print buried deep in the articles that the unemployment numbers don't count people who have "dropped out of the workforce".

Oh. That's right. You only read headlines. Because you're retarded.

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. It's me still calling bullshit.

Where did you get your still unspecified unemployment numbers? If the source is you and your feelings, it is you full bullshit. Or it could be your mind is hazy from past drinking and past contact with Covid-19. Either could make you think you know far more than you know in the form of delusions of adequacy.



What, are you a fuckin moron?

Even the most biased sources tell you in the fine print buried deep in the articles that the unemployment numbers don't count people who have "dropped out of the workforce".

Oh. That's right. You only read headlines. Because you're retarded.

I know these "drop outs" you mention. They aren't all really "drop outs". They are you, 6ix, and the kind of people you know. A job would be nice therapy for them, and put some cash in their pocket, but their employers will discover the hard way how crazy "drop outs" are. What they need more than a job is therapy so they won't be too crazy to employ. As you well know, America is not a nice place for ill people, since medical help is very expense, whether physically ill or mentally. The unemployed American "drop outs" won't be getting low cost or free therapy, which they need badly.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:06 AM

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It appears that somebody programmed the Roomba to go around playing bargain-bin therapist in Nilbog's absence.

Shut up idiot. You're not nearly as intelligent as you believe yourself to be.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It appears that somebody programmed the Roomba to go around playing bargain-bin therapist in Nilbog's absence.

Shut up idiot. You're not nearly as intelligent as you believe yourself to be.

6ix, you are definitely smarter than I am, as is Donald Trump, but you are both crazy. There are numerous books on how crazy Trump is. Books about 6ix? Not so many.

books about how crazy trump is
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Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:50 AM

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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are definitely smarter than I am



Of this, there is zero doubt.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 8:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are definitely smarter than I am



Of this, there is zero doubt.

It's funny that you're convinced you know from local experience of being unemployed what the National unemployment rate is. You have the personal ethics of a super-salesman, as does Trump, who will say anything, true or not, to make the sale.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 8:23 AM

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It's funny that you're convinced you know from local experience of being unemployed what the National unemployment rate is.



Unfortunately for you and your destined-to-fail-from-the-beginning argument, that's not what's happening here.

The Unemployment numbers are and will always be false and not at all reflective of reality. This was the case under GWB, Obama, Trump and now Biden*.

They all know this, and when they're not in power they will argue that fact. But when they're in power they will "forget" this and then go around celebrating the fake numbers.

Because you are a 100% Democrat shill, you are now in a position where you can't argue with facts behind you. You were very quick to point out the facts when Trump was President and was touting the false numbers (as was I), but now that Biden* is President you are unable to have the truth on your side.

Nobody should ever listen to your opinions on anything because there is always a Leftist agenda behind them. Not that you're some sort of mastermind... far from it. You're a useful idiot just regurgitating what your Legacy Media Masters tell you to say. You're a tool. You are a worthless human being.

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The Unemployment numbers are and will always be false and not at all reflective of reality. This was the case under GWB, Obama, Trump and now Biden*.

6ix, if you have your personal version of the "true" unemployment numbers, show them to the world, otherwise the true numbers are at https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IBvp , which will download their true numbers as either Excel (data) or CSV (data)

Blue line - Unemployment Rate (right scale)
Red Line - All Employees, Total Nonfarm (left scale)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IBvp


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Sunday, November 7, 2021 9:05 AM

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Posting your same fake graph on repeat isn't doing your false argument any favors.

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Posting your same fake graph on repeat isn't doing your false argument any favors.

6ix, if you have the "real" graph of unemployment numbers and the "true" data to support your arguments, show both to the world now or you, 6ix, are both a liar and crazy.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 9:20 AM

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Go find it yourself, idiot. Is your internet broken?

While you're at it, go ahead and find my post history where I call both Trump and GWB out for this lie too.

I won't bother searching yours where you did so when Obama was President, because we both know that never happened.


I'll take my leave so you can keep playing with your worthless two inch pud the rest of the day, Roomba.

I have shit to do. No more time to waste on you.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go find it yourself, idiot. Is your internet broken?

6ix, you don't have anything to support your fake unemployment numbers, do you? Nothing other than new craziness piled on top of old crazy. To quote you: "I'll take my leave . . . I have shit to do. No more time to waste on you." 6ix, you know perfectly well you have nothing worth doing and nothing supporting your unemployment numbers.


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Sunday, November 7, 2021 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go find it yourself, idiot. Is your internet broken?

6ix, you don't have anything to support your fake unemployment numbers, do you? Nothing other than new craziness piled on top of old crazy. To quote you: "I'll take my leave . . . I have shit to do. No more time to waste on you." 6ix, you know perfectly well you have nothing worth doing and nothing supporting your unemployment numbers.



You continue to be wrong about everything.

Don't let me stop you.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You continue to be wrong about everything.

Don't let me stop you.

When will you show your fake version of the unemployment numbers for the 21st Century? In meantime, the real version:

6ix, if you have your personal version of the "true" unemployment numbers, show them to the world, otherwise the true numbers are at https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IBvp , which will download their true numbers as either Excel (data) or CSV (data)

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 8:21 PM

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Fake news.

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Monday, November 8, 2021 6:56 AM

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The great thing about having principles is that I get to argue with different people depending on who's President.

I get to argue with JSF in this thread when Trump is president, and I get to argue with Second in this thread when Biden* is president.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 8:30 AM

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Lesson summary: Unemployment

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics
/economic-iondicators-and-the-business-cycle/unemployment/a/lesson-summary-unemployment


Lesson overview

A country’s economic performance is measured using three key indicators, one of which is the unemployment rate. When adults who are willing and able to work cannot find a job, it may be a sign that an economy is producing less than it could. On the other hand, unemployment is also a natural phenomenon that even healthy economies experience. While the official unemployment rate is helpful in representing the state of a nation’s workforce, it does have some shortcomings that should be considered, such as excluding discouraged workers.

[Relevant points to my argument: i.e.: the Correct Argument]

Unemployed - A term that describes a person who could be working, and wants to work, but is not working; to be counted as unemployed you must be part of the eligible population, not working, and actively looking for work.

Discouraged Workers - People who do not have a job, but they will take a job if offered one. However, they have given up looking for work, so they are not counted in the labor force; for example, if Carol gives up looking for work because she is having trouble finding a job, she is no longer in the labor force and therefore is not counted as unemployed.

Underemployed - People who work part-time, but they really want to work full time if they could find a full-time job; for example, Tyreese wants to work full time as an engineer, but he can only find a part-time job.



Limitations of the Unemployment Rate:

The unemployment rate as it is measured officially is often criticized for understating the level of joblessness because it excludes anyone working at all or people who aren’t looking for work. In particular, the official unemployment rate leaves out discouraged workers and the underemployed. People who have given up looking for work because they are convinced that they cannot find jobs are considered discouraged workers. Some people are counted as employed because they are working part-time, even though they really want full-time work.


Common Misperceptions:

- Not everyone who is out of work is unemployed. In order to be counted as unemployed you have to be out of work, looking for work, and able to accept a job if one is offered to you. If you are out of work and not looking, then you are considered “not in the labor force” rather than unemployed.

(NOTE: The ONLY way this can be taken into account is by counting weekly unemployment claims. So anybody who just left college and is looking for a job isn't even counted as unemployed... and of those who are filing and counted, the second they can't file another claim because their unemployment benefit ran out, they are no longer counted as unemployed either).

- A decrease in the unemployment rate isn’t necessarily a sign of an improving economy. When people stop looking for jobs and drop out of the labor force as discouraged workers, the unemployment rate will decrease even though the true employment situation hasn’t gotten any better. This is why it is important to look at both changes in the unemployment rate and changes in the labor force participation rate. Looking at both changes let’s you get a more complete idea about changes in the employment situation.


Half the jobs in this country are bullshit, part-time McJobs that offer nothing or next to it in terms of benefits as well as low wages. So even if you throw out Discouraged Workers like your stupid little graph throws out, Second, you've got tens of millions of adults working shit part-time jobs (oftentimes 2 and 3 of them in tandem) without any benefits that are willing to work more but can't get more. (And most of those jobs being federally subsidized by our tax dollars while the companies rake in billions every year.)

The average salary hasn't increased at all since the late 90's, and the bump we've seen recently is already being wiped out by Biden*'s inflation.

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Monday, November 8, 2021 1:33 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



AFAIK to be counted as being unemployed you have to be actively receiving unemployment benefits and all the caveats and limitations that imposes.

I hope most people know by now that unemployment numbers are hardly meaningful, and that the labor force participation rate is a better metric. But it's not perfect! It counts "those who are employed or unemployed and looking for work, compared to the total adult population". If you work 1 hour a week, you're counted as employed. If your LOOKING for work, you still count! So even though this measure is better than unemployment figures there are serious deficits in this metric as well.

That said, the media's over-emphasis on unemployment figures is yet another example of how we're being propagandized every day by our government/media propaganda machine.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-p
articipation-rate.htm


The labor force participation rate dropped from 66.7% in November 2001 to a low of 63.3% in September 2015 (note for Second: including an overall drop from 65.7% to 62.7% during Obama's terms in office). It rose slightly during Trump's term in office from 62.8% 63.2%. But February through April 2020 it dropped from 63.4 to 60.2. It rebounded sharply to reach 61.7% in August 2020. Since then it's been flat, in October 2021 it was 61.6%.

OVERALL the labor force participation rate dropped sharply from 63.3% in Jan 2020 to 61.7 in August 2020 and has been stalled out since.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

AFAIK to be counted as being unemployed you have to be actively receiving unemployment benefits and all the caveats and limitations that imposes.



Yes. This is true.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Common Misperceptions:

- Not everyone who is out of work is unemployed. In order to be counted as unemployed you have to be out of work, looking for work, and able to accept a job if one is offered to you. If you are out of work and not looking, then you are considered “not in the labor force” rather than unemployed.



These are actually three separate questions asked of you every week you file for unemployment.

1. You would like to file an unemployment claim for week "X"?
2. You have performed and logged your work search requirement for the week?
3. You are able and available to accept a job offer?



Back when I lived in Illinois and filed unemployment many, many years ago, you were actually able to still file unemployment claims even if your benefits were exhausted. So you could, at least many, many years ago, still keep yourself counted as unemployed if you were to continue to file your bi-weekly claims even though you wouldn't get any benefits.

In Indiana, currently, you are completely barred from filing a week of unemployment after your benefits expire, so you are forced out of the unemployment numbers when your benefits run out.


It would be interesting to know how all of the states currently handle this. Although I don't suppose it really matters since a vast majority of people would never continue to file weekly claims after their benefits run out. It's just interesting to me that some states allow you to continue while others don't.

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AFAIK to be counted as being unemployed you have to be actively receiving unemployment benefits and all the caveats and limitations that imposes.

I hope most people know by now that unemployment numbers are hardly meaningful, and that the labor force participation rate is a better metric. But it's not perfect! It counts "those who are employed or unemployed and looking for work, compared to the total adult population". If you work 1 hour a week, you're counted as employed. If your LOOKING for work, you still count!

This sounds untrue. There are millions who are looking for work, but are not counted among the Labor Force because their Unemployment Benefits have been exhausted. How are you imagining that solely looking for work fits into some category of the Labor Force?
Quote:

So even though this measure is better than unemployment figures there are serious deficits in this metric as well.

That said, the media's over-emphasis on unemployment figures is yet another example of how we're being propagandized every day by our government/media propaganda machine.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-p
articipation-rate.htm


The labor force participation rate dropped from 66.7% in November 2001 to a low of 63.3% in September 2015 (note for Second: including an overall drop from 65.7% to 62.7% during Obama's terms in office). It rose slightly during Trump's term in office from 62.8% 63.2%. But February through April 2020 it dropped from 63.4 to 60.2. It rebounded sharply to reach 61.7% in August 2020. Since then it's been flat, in October 2021 it was 61.6%.

OVERALL the labor force participation rate dropped sharply from 63.3% in Jan 2020 to 61.7 in August 2020 and has been stalled out since.


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