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Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:01 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't put much value on money. I certainly don't go out of my way to acquire more than I need. You seem really hung up on that. This sounds like a YOU problem. Just like I said that I don't need to live off of $4500 per year, but I can, I'm also extremely far from lazy as well. I do what I enjoy doing. Some days that is more or less nothing. Most days I'm investing by working on my house with stuff I've bought on sale (sometimes even lucking into damn-near-free), or working on my hobbies, or helping other people out. None of my activities are ever going to make me rich. Some will make me money down the road. Some plant obs on other people which will be paid back one day. A lot of it won't ever make me any money at all. But whatever it is that I'm doing (or not doing), I'm rarely found doing anything that I don't enjoy doing these days. And probably most importantly, none of the money I make is from taking advantage of anybody else... whether that be from scamming people directly, or making money off the backs of other people's work via the stock market. You sound like a bad guy right now, Second. Just figured I'd fill you in on that since you're so clueless about yourself.
Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:37 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't put much value on money. I certainly don't go out of my way to acquire more than I need. You seem really hung up on that. This sounds like a YOU problem. Just like I said that I don't need to live off of $4500 per year, but I can, I'm also extremely far from lazy as well. I do what I enjoy doing. Some days that is more or less nothing. Most days I'm investing by working on my house with stuff I've bought on sale (sometimes even lucking into damn-near-free), or working on my hobbies, or helping other people out. None of my activities are ever going to make me rich. Some will make me money down the road. Some plant obs on other people which will be paid back one day. A lot of it won't ever make me any money at all. But whatever it is that I'm doing (or not doing), I'm rarely found doing anything that I don't enjoy doing these days. And probably most importantly, none of the money I make is from taking advantage of anybody else... whether that be from scamming people directly, or making money off the backs of other people's work via the stock market. You sound like a bad guy right now, Second. Just figured I'd fill you in on that since you're so clueless about yourself.Maybe I will write a story called "River Tam and the Problem of Evil" which would be a retelling of "Indistinguishable From Magic" giving Kaylee a much bigger role -- http://www.fireflyfans.net/bluesun.aspx?bid=5185 In the story about Evil, there will be a contrast between the aimlessness of Mal and the highly directed goals of River and Kaylee, whose first goal is to save Wash and ultimate goal is to save humanity. The trick is that River and Kaylee never, never, never tell anybody what they are doing because either nobody would believe it, or nobody would be a help, or The Operative would stop them, since he is paying close attention to their projects yet doesn't know their goals. Most people will never know what River/Kaylee did because most people need to be told and shown over and over, like ads on TV, before they get an inkling. Let's be rude about this: most people in the last 300,000 years are as aimless as Mal and very few have ever been as focused as River and Kaylee and even the Operative. If Mal does some tiny thing, he lets everybody know, but mostly he struggles to keep flying and put food on the table. When River and Kaylee achieve something huge, they don't slap their name on it Trump Tower style. The billions of Mals and Trumps of the world pretty much accomplish nothing, but imagine they did a lot. It is very telling that most Americans think Mal and Trump are highly significant to the story, but River and Kaylee are actually doing much bigger things than a spaceship captain or a make believe president, both captain and president randomly killing people when the whim strikes them. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, October 13, 2021 7:08 AM
Wednesday, October 13, 2021 7:49 AM
Quote:Their power, like all human power, resides in the minds of other human beings.
Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: They are the beneficiaries of Zipf's law. The only way you're breaking that is if you refuse the establishment and play by your own rules. . . . I got off the bus. Who's coming with me?
Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: They are the beneficiaries of Zipf's law. The only way you're breaking that is if you refuse the establishment and play by your own rules. . . . I got off the bus. Who's coming with me?What you are suggesting is to become a hippie. Whatever happened to them? Now I remember! Hippies vanished, along with their dreams of a better world. They were so inwardly focused on their own bliss that the external world made no changes for the better. Then even the Hippies got bored with the small time life they lived. Hippies quit being Hippies.
Quote:It is NOT Zipf's law if you become a doctor with a strategy to extract large sums of money from Medicare. Typical American doctors are in it for the money or otherwise they'd be working half the time at Doctors Without Borders, making a better world for someone other than themselves (Don't forget how selfish the Hippies were). On a smaller scale than doctors, veterinaries do it for money, too, extracting from dog and cat owners. If it wasn't about maximizing money, there are plenty of stray dogs to treat for free. As a matter of fact, most of Americans in the top 10 percent of wealth spend nearly all their money on themselves and their children. The lower 90 percent of Americans get their pay cut and their prices raised by the top 10% so that the 10% can have a little more money to spend on their children. For me, one of the most distressing statistics is that the richer people get, the less they believe in publicly supported child care. It’s not that they don’t want their taxes to go to pay for child care, it’s that they’ve internalized this idea that everyone can do this, everyone can raise their own child or just hire a nanny. “Let them hire a nanny” is the new “let them eat cake.” It just shows how this super-well-educated class becomes oblivious to the basis of its own existence.
Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:10 AM
Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:21 AM
Thursday, October 14, 2021 9:12 AM
Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Wages did go up, after a year of the highest unemployment benefits we've ever paid out. Look at the prices. You're going to have to raise minimum wage a shit ton more, and consistantly forever, if you're going to ever have any chances of fighting inequality. The only way to do it is to raise the minimum wage every single year at double whatever inflation is the previous year. I wonder how the "health experts" are going to feel when they're making just as much money as the guy cleaning toilets at Costco. At least the guy cleaning toilets at Costco is providing a legitimate service.
Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Wages did go up, after a year of the highest unemployment benefits we've ever paid out. Look at the prices. You're going to have to raise minimum wage a shit ton more, and consistantly forever, if you're going to ever have any chances of fighting inequality. The only way to do it is to raise the minimum wage every single year at double whatever inflation is the previous year. I wonder how the "health experts" are going to feel when they're making just as much money as the guy cleaning toilets at Costco. At least the guy cleaning toilets at Costco is providing a legitimate service.More than half of Americans spend as much as they make each month, or more. Nearly the same percentage say they have favorable financial circumstances, which may just mean some of them are too frightened to admit they don’t. Or perhaps they are just too financially illiterate to understand their predicament. I think we are finally getting it that the average American brain does not work around money naturally. I suspect the average American's sense of impotence in the face of financial difficulty is not only a source of disillusionment, but also a source of the anger that now infects our national politics, an anger that gets displaced onto undocumented immigrants or Chinese trade precisely because we are unable or unwilling to articulate its true source. “Financial impotence” has many of the characteristics of sexual impotence, not least of which is the desperate need to mask it and pretend everything is going swimmingly. It may be more embarrassing than sexual impotence. You are more likely to hear from your buddy that he is on Viagra than that he has credit-card problems. Much more likely. America is a country, as Donald Trump has reminded us, of winners and losers, alphas and weaklings. To struggle financially is a source of shame, a daily humiliation — even a form of social suicide. Silence is the only protection. That, and noisily supporting Donald Trump. https://bestmoneymoves.com/blog/2018/10/03/what-percentage-of-americans-spend-more-than-they-earn/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, October 15, 2021 12:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: . . . People are stupid when it comes to money. At the very least, they're ignorant. And unfortunately, simply just giving them more money for nothing isn't going to fix any problems because more money will just equal more stupid decisions for a vast majority of us. Education is key. Until the people are educated, they will never live better lives. With all the worthless shit that kids are taught in school, I'm sure that we can replace that with at least a few things that will help them live better lives as adults. Because the only two things that they learn today that will help (basic arithmetic and reading/writing) we're failing at miserably. . . .
Friday, October 15, 2021 12:37 AM
Friday, October 15, 2021 8:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't try changing the subject.
Friday, October 15, 2021 10:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't try changing the subject.The subject is the false mental models used by most Americans to explain to themselves how America works.
Friday, October 15, 2021 10:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't try changing the subject.The subject is the false mental models used by most Americans to explain to themselves how America works. Yeah. My point exactly. Read a fucking book.
Friday, October 15, 2021 10:45 AM
Friday, October 15, 2021 12:25 PM
Friday, October 15, 2021 2:29 PM
Monday, October 18, 2021 8:35 AM
Monday, October 18, 2021 10:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Malcolm Turnbull on Murdoch, lies and the climate crisis: 'The same forces that enabled Trump are at work in Australia' Systematic partisan lying and misinformation from the media, both mainstream and social, has done enormous damage to liberal democracies, the former PM writes Biden is leading a more traditional and rational administration. The friends and allies Trump had outraged around the world are breathing a sigh of relief. The US has rejoined the Paris agreement on climate change and Biden is seeking to lead the world with deeper, faster cuts to emissions. But the same forces that amplified and enabled Trump are still at work in the US and here in Australia. In April the Murdoch press bullied the New South Wales government into reversing its decision to appoint me chairman of a committee to advise on the transition to a net zero emission economy. My “crime” was to not support the continued, unconstrained expansion of open-cut coalmining in the Hunter Valley. In the crazed, rightwing media echo chamber so influential with many Liberal and National party members, the primary qualification to advise on net zero emissions is, apparently, unqualified support for coalmining. As though we hadn’t had enough demonstration of the Murdochs’ vendetta tactics, right on cue on 2 May Sky News Australia broadcast a “documentary” designed to disparage me and Rudd as being, in effect, political twins separated at birth. As a job, I am told it gave hatchets a bad name. But the message was clear to anyone inclined to hold Murdoch to account: step out of line and you will be next. And while politicians are accountable, the Murdochs are not. Their abuse of power has been so shameful that James Murdoch has resigned from the company. His brother, Lachlan, however, is thoroughly in charge and apparently more rightwing than his father. Yet he has chosen to move back to Australia with his family, fleeing the hatreds and divisions of America that he and his father have done so much to exacerbate. More at https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/18/malcolm-turnbull-on-murdoch-lies-and-the-climate-crisis-the-same-forces-that-enabled-trump-are-at-work-in-australia The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, October 18, 2021 11:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol Zuckerborg bought 2020 for Democrats. You're an idiot.
Monday, October 18, 2021 11:53 AM
Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol We'll see. If I were him, I wouldn't go jeopardizing the winning streak by speaking out of turn with 3 years left to go. Joe Biden*'s America sucks, and there's no indications that things are ever going to get better with him sleeping in the chair.
Monday, October 18, 2021 10:37 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Monday, October 18, 2021 11:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: The deep state start to turn against Sleepy President Biden...announced an investigation into the jihads of Asskcrackistan getting billion in US Weapons?
Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:17 AM
Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: As Afghanistan sinks into destitution, some sell children to survive https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/the-wall-street-journal/as-afghanistan-sinks-into-destitution-some-sell-children-to-survive/news-story/248d87ab9b632cc3b1eec93bef34e150
Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:21 AM
Thursday, October 21, 2021 7:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: How long until people are selling their children in Biden*'s America to pay their bills?
Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:23 PM
Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:30 PM
Friday, October 22, 2021 7:35 AM
Friday, October 22, 2021 9:24 AM
Saturday, October 23, 2021 9:09 AM
Sunday, October 24, 2021 10:11 AM
Sunday, October 24, 2021 10:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: So if one way in which liberalism has become misshapen over the last decades is economic—with the rise of neoliberalism—the other is more cultural: A doubling-down on an emphasis on autonomy. Individualism, which is core to the liberal tradition, is undermining itself in a way. What does that mean?
Sunday, October 24, 2021 5:28 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Monday, October 25, 2021 6:23 AM
Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:32 AM
Wednesday, October 27, 2021 7:57 AM
Wednesday, October 27, 2021 8:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: If you have five minutes, watch it all.
Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by second: If you have five minutes, watch it all. I did. Thanks. The problem iz she makes sens. GoPs dont do sensible any more. Its been out uv fashion for them sins at least Bush jr. and Trump led them even further down the road to madness.
Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: I did. Thanks. The problem iz she makes sens. GoPs dont do sensible any more. Its been out uv fashion for them sins at least Bush jr. and Trump led them even further down the road to madness.
Thursday, October 28, 2021 9:45 AM
Thursday, October 28, 2021 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: "I think a full investigation would show that Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf." – Jimmy Carter https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/jimmy-carter-russia-investigation-trump-lost-1387634 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, October 29, 2021 9:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: LOL. Jimmy Carter. He's getting jealous that Biden* is taking his record for Worst President from him.
Friday, October 29, 2021 10:01 AM
Monday, November 1, 2021 5:51 AM
Monday, November 1, 2021 8:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Scholars are mapping the international precursors of Nazism.
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