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Saturday, September 11, 2021 9:56 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't have a business or money.

But thank you for proving my point regardless.

You proved my point: white trash have shitty lives because of a huge number of their interconnecting and self-reinforcing beliefs and delusions about themselves. Sadly for white trash, trash doesn't recognize their behavior as trashy and self-defeating, but even unrecognized, even if they proudly deny what is so obviously wrong with themselves, they will still do shitty in America, even if Trump is their next President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 11, 2021 10:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

lol

Keep telling yourself that you're living a better life than me, buddy.

I've got actual things to do today. Have fun wasting another day of your pointless life.

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Saturday, September 11, 2021 11:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

The Texas Tribune annotated Texas’ near-total abortion ban. Here’s what the law says about enforcement.

The law will be carried out by civilians “deputized” to do what the state cannot: enforce its new restrictive abortion law. Here’s where the process is laid out in the statute and what it means.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/10/texas-abortion-law-ban-enforce
ment/

Legal experts have said the law is a radical expansion of “standing”, which is the legal concept that determines whether one person may sue another in order to get compensation for injury or harm. The new abortion law does not require injury or harm in order to have standing. Until this abortion law passed, tort law provided remedies only to people who have incurred a harm. Anti-abortion groups argue that the Texas Legislature can legitimately give anyone standing.

Legal experts have said that the concept to expand standing is part of an emerging trend in Republican-dominated state governments that find it difficult to constitutionally prohibit actions they dislike. Instead, such governments empower civilians to sue for civil remedies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 11, 2021 12:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I don't see how this is any different than what Biden is trying to pull with a mandate by proxy.

That being said, I don't agree with this either.

It's your choice as a woman to murder a baby if you want to, not the government's. We already know that if they're made illegal, girls will be doing back ally abortions and probably killing themselves too while they're at it.

That choice is between you and God if there is one. If there ends up not being one, that was a freebie.

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Saturday, September 11, 2021 7:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't have a business or money.

But thank you for proving my point regardless.
You proved my point: white trash have shitty lives because of a huge number of their interconnecting and self-reinforcing beliefs and delusions about themselves. Sadly for white trash, trash doesn't recognize their behavior as trashy and self-defeating, but even unrecognized, even if they proudly deny what is so obviously wrong with themselves, they will still do shitty in America, even if Trump is their next President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Keep telling yourself that you're living a better life than me, buddy.

I've got actual things to do today. Have fun wasting another day of your pointless life.

https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/its-inflation-stupid-biden-faces-revolt/

What's that ya say? Shelter comprises 40% of the Consumer Price Index?

Boy. It's a good thing I opted out of that for life 10 years ago.

I purposefully make less than I'd need to make to pay any Federal Income Taxes because I don't agree with how they spend any of it. I pay nothing per month for shelter in a state with hardly any property taxes, pay nothing per month for my car unless you want to count the $25 for insurance and the license plate sticker, and I buy nothing except for what I need and can afford to buy it in bulk and/or on sale. Oh yeah... and I'm typing to you over my $20 internet connection that has a phone on it that costs me under $3 per month and is paid up until long after Trump becomes your President again.

Yup. Life is super tough around here.

Meanwhile, in reality...

It's really nice finally putting up a the other half-a-house worth of baseboard and trim I snagged on clearance 2 years ago. $200 for the whole house, and that was on a credit card that gave me $250 signup bonus for spending $1000 on it in the first 90 days.

So yeah... essentially they paid me $50 to haul over $1,200 worth of wood away... and it looks great.

I do what I want to do, when I want to do it. I learn something new and useful nearly everyday without having to pay a dime for the knowledge. I fill my life with projects that fill the hole I was never able to fill with drinking. My stress levels have never been lower since before my parents divorced 37 years ago.

I live a more fulfilling life than 3/4 of the jackass wage slaves in the so-called middle class.

"Baby if that's movin' up than I'm movin' out." ~Billy Joel

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 7:53 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't see how this is any different than what Biden is trying to pull with a mandate by proxy.

That being said, I don't agree with this either.

It's your choice as a woman to murder a baby if you want to, not the government's. We already know that if they're made illegal, girls will be doing back ally abortions and probably killing themselves too while they're at it.

That choice is between you and God if there is one. If there ends up not being one, that was a freebie.

In my Firefly story that will never be written down, River Tam definitely believes in God, but her true God isn't your imaginary God, 6ix. River is psychic, at least according to Joss Whedon. River has connections to The All Mighty. Her God follows the Broadway playwright/financier/executive producer/director model, where everybody is an actor, there is a script, and God is expecting you to give your best dramatic performance. At the end of a performance, God gives some criticisms, maybe God modifies the script based on actors' improvisations. Then God tells everyone that the play will be performed again, tomorrow night, and thanks all the actors for appearing before erasing selective parts of the actors' memories. If the actors could remember they are only actors in the middle of a play, they won't truly be living the part, but will just be going through the motions and their performances will be hollow. God wants the best performances and he can't get those without doing a little erasing of memories to keep each performance fresh. River's psychic ability to see the future come from remembering; she is not erased. She knows the play by heart, having seen it many times. River plans on going off script in the middle of the show, just to see God, for once, not know what is going to happen next in the Play.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 8:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

"My" God?

Apparently you don't read my posts.

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 8:39 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"My" God?

Apparently you don't read my posts.

Police in West Texas this week arrested Joseph Angel Alvarez, 38, who allegedly targeted a couple - killing the wife in the process - because they voted for Biden, and had a Biden flag and ‘a doll of Trump hanging’ outside their home.

https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/10/affidavit-texas-man-murdered-woman-sho
t-her-husband-because-they-voted-biden/

6ix, you defend your God, Trump. You are as crazy as Alvarez, but lazy and passive.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 8:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"My" God?

Apparently you don't read my posts.
Police in West Texas this week arrested Joseph Angel Alvarez, 38, who allegedly targeted a couple - killing the wife in the process - because they voted for Biden, and had a Biden flag and ‘a doll of Trump hanging’ outside their home.

https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/10/affidavit-texas-man-murdered-woman-sho
t-her-husband-because-they-voted-biden/

6ix, you defend your God, Trump. You are as crazy as Alvarez, but lazy and passive.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

lol

Trump is awesome.

He's not a God though.

Go fuck yourself, idiot.

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 9:59 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
. . . static from a dead TV channel with no signal . . .

I'd rather receive false information and keep my conservative views then receive true information and follow a socialistic agenda.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/fej6g6/id_rather_rec
eive_false_information_and_keep_my/

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 10:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Your time is up.

No more tick tocks.

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 10:12 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your time is up.

No more tick tocks.

Now you are predicting the future, but you are no psychic. Psychotic? Maybe you are. 6ix, no matter how many times you complement yourself for having vision and being frugal, wonderful, superior, knowledgeable, intelligent, wise, sane, etc., you aren't. Trump has the same problem.

See for an example of 6ix patting himself on the back: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=11410
39#1141039 but there are thousands of other examples. 6ix just can't stop bragging about himself. Trump does the same. That could be what is so attractive about him to GOPer voters.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 13, 2021 5:57 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

The wealth lobby is buying up Democrats to defeat Biden’s tax reform

Last week, Democratic senator turned anti-tax lobbyist Heidi Heitkamp, who represented North Dakota for one term before losing in 2018, appeared on CNBC to make a surprisingly emotional appeal against President Biden’s plan to close a notorious loophole for the wealthy. The loophole, called “stepped-up basis” or “the angel-of-death loophole,” allows capital gains to escape any tax at all as long as the owners pass the asset on to their heirs before they sell it.

Heitkamp’s thoughts were with the victims of this reform. She did not invoke the tax implications for the handful of extremely wealthy families that have been financing a lobbying effort to preserve their tax advantages, including the group that currently employs her as its public face. Instead, she cited the burden of an imaginary working-class man named “Sam.”

The scenario that troubled Heitkamp was that Sam, or people like him, would inherit a family-owned cabin that had become extremely valuable and now have to pay tax on the estate. “The truck driver — let’s say truck-driver Sam, who let’s say makes $100,000 a year — all of a sudden now has a tax that he owes on inheriting that property,” she complained.

In fact, the original Democratic proposal allowed for a $1 million exemption per spouse, and it allowed heirs a 15-year period to spread out the payments. So poor Sam would only have to pay tax on whatever value his cabin had over $2 million, which seems like a rather lavish spread for a working-class fellow, and he would have enjoyed a comfortable period over which to make those payments.

Even so, the pleas made by Heitkamp and other moderate Democrats on behalf of the rural petite-bourgeoisie heirs to landowning fortunes exceeding $2 million were felt. Democrats in Congress proposed to raise the exemption to $5 million per spouse. Surely, now that truck drivers inheriting cabins worth less than $10 million would be spared, Heitkamp would have softened her opposition.

But when I reached her on the phone, Heitkamp explained that these adjustments did not satisfy her. When you look at the polling, she told me, people “didn’t believe these exclusions” would really apply. The problem was public opinion. Democrats couldn’t run the risk of taxing extremely large fortunes because working-class folks like “Sam” think they would be targeted.

The fact that this belief was completely false seemed to be beside the point to Heitkamp. She likewise seemed untroubled by the possibility that the reason working-class people would get this false impression in the first place was that groups like hers would spread it. Heitkamp’s group is currently running ads making the case that Biden’s plan to tax the fortunes of the wealthy would hit regular folks. Heitkamp is arguing that even if the proposal won’t hit regular folks, the regular folks won’t believe them. Therefore, Democrats can’t take the risk of raising taxes on the wealthy people who are paying her.

It is probably true that enacting a big tax hike on the wealthy runs a political risk: The wealthy will fund a lot of television ads attacking you over it. The trade-off is that for every dollar in tax hikes Democrats give up, they have to give up a dollar in spending on popular programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and a universal child tax credit. Some of those programs serve social needs more serious than the travails of an imaginary working-class truck driver who inherits a cabin worth more than $10 million.

More at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/09/wealth-lobby-buying-up-democra
ts-to-kill-bidens-tax-reform.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 13, 2021 7:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your time is up.

No more tick tocks.
Now you are predicting the future, but you are no psychic. Psychotic? Maybe you are. 6ix, no matter how many times you complement yourself for having vision and being frugal, wonderful, superior, knowledgeable, intelligent, wise, sane, etc., you aren't. Trump has the same problem.

See for an example of 6ix patting himself on the back: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=11410
39#1141039 but there are thousands of other examples. 6ix just can't stop bragging about himself. Trump does the same. That could be what is so attractive about him to GOPer voters.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Yeah. I'm awesome.

At least I brag about stuff that's true.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:42 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Americans become two separate peoples, one long-lived and one short-lived

The divergence in life expectancy is stunning. A 2015 study by the National Academy of Sciences found that life expectancy at age 50 for men born in 1960 was almost thirteen years higher for those in the highest quintile of the income distribution than for those in the lowest quintile, while for women born in 1960, it was almost fourteen years higher.

A 2021 study by Anne Case and Angus Deaton, the authors of "Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism," found that the life expectancy of college-educated Americans has continued to rise over the past two decades, while that of non-college-educated Americans has been falling since 2010. This was true for the population as a whole, for both men and women, and for both Blacks and Whites.

Not so long ago, the United States was among the rich world's longevity leaders. Today, it is its longevity laggard, with a lower life expectancy at birth than any other high-income member of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development except Hungary, Poland, and the three Baltic States.

The most important reason for the slide in US life expectancy rankings has been the deteriorating health of the US population. The United States as of 2017 had the third-highest obesity rate in the OECD (only Mexico and Chile were higher) and the third-highest incidence of diabetes (only Mexico and Turkey were higher). As for substance abuse, the US opioid-related death rate was not only the highest in the OECD as of 2016, but was also at least double that of every other member country except Canada and Estonia.

America is usually quick to take action in response to immediate threats, as it did with Pearl Harbor. It finds it harder to act when faced with slow-motion crises which only become apparent over the course of many years. Yet such crises may be every bit as threatening to the nation's future.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/13/opinions/life-expectancy-covid-socioeco
nomic-status-jackson/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Bad news for you since old people vote Republican.

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Friday, September 17, 2021 11:11 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Bad news for you since old people vote Republican.

There is no fool like an old fool.
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/there-is-no-fool-like-an-old-fool.
html

Non-insane Republicans need to bite the bullet and vote D

I'm a little late to this, but George W. Bush gave a speech on 9/11:

"We have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders but from violence that gathers within ... they are children of the same foul spirit and it is our continuing duty to confront them."

This is all very fine, and I'm glad to see Bush denounce the violent Trumpist wing of the Republican Party even if he didn't actually name them. Unfortunately, this is nowhere near enough.

The actual Trumpistas themselves I can almost feel some empathy for. They are largely old, poorly educated, and feel like they have genuine grievances. They are wide open to being conned, and Trump, Fox News, and the rest of the right-wing media machine is happy to oblige them. To a large extent, these folks oppose vaccines and believe the election was stolen because that's what they're being told—over and over and over.

The people I have a real problem with are the non-insane Republicans. These are the ones who don't like Trump and understand that he's dangerous. But they aren't willing to do the only thing that might rid the party of Trumpism: vote for Democrats.

Not forever. Just temporarily until their party gets the message that it needs to purge Trump and his influence if they want to win elections.

I don't expect anyone to become a liberal. Or to like Democrats. I just want them to hold their noses and vote D for a little while on the grounds that a few years of liberal governance is better than allowing the Republican Party to permanently become a party of Trumpism. The old notion that Trumpism is bad but fundamentally harmless was never really justified, but after "Stop the Steal" and January 6 and now the season of vaccine madness, it should be obvious that it's not harmless at all. It's dangerous and will likely get more dangerous over time.

But there's no way to clean up the Republican Party by words alone. As long as they're winning elections, they'll keep doing what they're doing. So vote D. Just for a little while.

https://jabberwocking.com/7757-2/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 18, 2021 10:19 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

7 ways men live without working in America

Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat. They don’t have a job, and they aren’t looking for one either.

As a business journalist for a good portion of those 70-plus years, I’ve looked at thousands of charts and graphs in my life, and I have to say this one is as jaw dropping as it is vexing:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=GLT5

Economists, sociologists, politicians, and cable news pundits each have their pet factors to explain the groundswell of non-work. But after digging down here, I’ve concluded there are many different forces at play. That’s what I want to explore today, which is: how men can live in America without working.

And speaking of charts, another striking one came to mind when I was writing this, which I put here below. It shows U.S. GDP over the same time period as the labor participation rate:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=Gn1O

Of course, the line on this GDP chart is inversely correlated with the line on the labor participation graph. And I think there is a relationship between the two. Which is to say, the wealthier our nation has become over the decades, the less men are working. Fact is there is just a ton of money sloshing around in our country. And men seem to be able to get their hands on it, whether obtained legally, borrowed, leached off of or stolen.

It seems like working legally to provide for yourself in America is really just one option these days.

More at https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-ways-men-live-without-working-in-amer
ica-092147068.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 18, 2021 9:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I don't expect anyone to become a liberal. Or to like Democrats.

Good for you. Because neither of those things are going to happen.

Democrats are cancer.

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Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Democrats are cancer.

Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.

South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster:

"The American Dream has turned into a nightmare under President Biden and the radical Democrats. They have declared war against capitalism, thumbed their noses at the Constitution, and empowered our enemies abroad. Rest assured, we will fight them to the gates of hell to protect the liberty and livelihood of every South Carolinian."

Where can McMaster now go if he wants to further ratchet up this rhetoric? Hearing Republican politicians speak about The American Dream while voting against a livable minimum wage and undermining consumer protection, is always, well, a little rich.

For decades the Republican game has been to claim that liberals and progressives are out to ruin the country with their unholy desire to see a bit more sharing of wealth and resources. But the rhetoric they're employing lately seems truly biblical, end-times unhinged, of the "If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" variety.

"If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." -- Trump
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-ke
y-part-of-impeachment-trial

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Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Democrats are cancer.
Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.

Don't want to hear about it.

Had to listen to you talking about assassinating Trump, killing your bosses and stealing everything they own, Nilbog talking about genociding everyone she didn't agree with, the Roomba telling people to kill themselves and graphically telling them how they should do it three times a day, Ted celebrating any time somebody with the wrong political opinion dies, and JO and Cap'n never calling any of you out on it.

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Sunday, September 19, 2021 10:23 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Democrats are cancer.
Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.

Don't want to hear about it.

Remember this from Serenity? It describes the GOP and its voters: (Fanty) You're unpredictable, Mal. You run when you ought to fight. Fight when you ought to deal. Makes a businessperson a little twitchy.
http://www.myths.com/pub/scripts/Serenity.html

Mal didn't get the point Fanty was making. Years have passed in the comics and the novels written after Serenity, but Mal still hasn't gotten the point. He doesn't know how to prosper because his actions are not close to the best for the situations. Republican voters have the same poor performance as Mal because their responses are, let's be polite for once, sub-optimal for the problems they face in life.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 20, 2021 7:29 AM

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The Banality of Trump Being Bonkers

When Bob Woodward first breathlessly reported the fragile mental state of a president on his way out of office, it was a national sensation. His and Carl Bernstein’s depiction of a drunk, unhinged Richard Nixon in 1976’s The Final Days shocked the country in an age of three television networks and zero social-media platforms. In Woodward’s new book, Peril, co-authored with fellow Washington Post reporter Robert Costa, it’s no surprise that Trump is depicted as off his rocker — that’s been reported in detail almost every day for years, and regularly demonstrated by the former president’s own statements and behavior.

He was focused on issues like his displeasure with the design of the U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier. In particular, according to Peril, Trump found the placement of the flight command center on the carrier’s deck to be aesthetically displeasing and would rail against it to military officials.

There are new details in Peril on the games those around Trump played as they’d tried to manage him in the aftermath of the election, like how Secretary of State Mike Pompeo got on the phone with Milley one evening to express the need for the two to act in concert to protect the country. “We’ve got to stand shoulder to shoulder,” he told the general. “We’re the last of the Mohicans.” (The next day, Pompeo was smirking to reporters about a “smooth transition to a second Trump administration.”) Mitch McConnell reportedly went so far as to set up a back channel to communicate with Joe Biden after the election to avoid a direct phone call that would raise Trump’s ire.

Throughout, Trump was an object of scorn for many in his orbit. Woodward and Costa report that Milley thought that the president was experiencing mental decline, Attorney General William Barr compared him to a deranged character from Dr. Strangelove, and McConnell was fond of telling senators a story that ended with the punchline of former secretary of State Rex Tillerson calling Trump “a fucking moron.”

In 2018, an internet jokester tweeted a fake book excerpt about Trump’s alleged love for the Gorilla Channel, a makeshift television channel created by aides that only aired videos of apes fighting. Many people believed the excerpt and story were real. That Trump might be obsessed with watching gorillas fight didn’t seem that far-fetched compared to what was appearing on the front page of the New York Times or Washington Post most days.

Then again, the idea of a president egging on a mob to lay siege to the U.S. Capitol should have been as absurd as the idea of one spending 17 hours a day watching videos of gorillas slapping each other. It is what makes any behind-the-scenes look at Trump’s White House so ultimately unsatisfying. There are ample newly reported details in Woodward and Costa’s book, but the most shocking events during Trump’s last days in office didn’t happen in closed-door meetings or private conversations — they were broadcast live on cable television.

After all, it becomes hard to reveal that the emperor has no clothes when he’s spent half a decade tweeting that he’s naked.

More at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/09/woodwards-peril-and-the-banali
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Monday, September 20, 2021 8:05 AM

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Democrats are cancer.
Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.

Don't want to hear about it.
Remember this from Serenity? It describes the GOP and its voters: (Fanty) You're unpredictable, Mal. You run when you ought to fight. Fight when you ought to deal. Makes a businessperson a little twitchy.
http://www.myths.com/pub/scripts/Serenity.html

Mal didn't get the point Fanty was making. Years have passed in the comics and the novels written after Serenity, but Mal still hasn't gotten the point. He doesn't know how to prosper because his actions are not close to the best for the situations. Republican voters have the same poor performance as Mal because their responses are, let's be polite for once, sub-optimal for the problems they face in life.

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My life is awesome.

P.S. Nobody gave a shit about Woodward after Redford was done playing him.

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P.S. Nobody gave a shit about Woodward after Redford was done playing him.

For a President Who ‘Needs to Touch the Flame,’ Bob Woodward Was Irresistible. President Trump gave 18 interviews to the famed Watergate journalist, gambling that he could control the narrative. Instead, he undermined himself shortly before an election.

Presidents over the decades thought they could manage Bob Woodward and many, as Karl Rove put it this week, came to regret it. Then came Donald J. Trump, who being Donald J. Trump thought so much of his powers of persuasion that he opened up to Mr. Woodward not once or twice but an astonishing 18 times.

So President Trump may have 18 times as many reasons for regret, as the latest blockbuster from Mr. Woodward reveals a president who privately understood how deadly the coronavirus really was even as he was telling the public the opposite. With an election 53 days away, perhaps no other president who talked with Mr. Woodward did as much to undermine himself.

“What Trump did was neither normal or advisable,” said Dan Pfeiffer, who was a senior adviser to Mr. Obama. “Instead of just sitting down for an interview, Trump treated a reporter famous for bringing down a president like his personal sounding board. It is truly one of the most stupidly self-destructive communications decisions made by a politician in memory.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/us/politics/trump-woodward.html

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Monday, September 20, 2021 8:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Trump is fine.

Woodward is a worm.

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Trump is fine.

Woodward is a worm.

Trump's lawyer wrote a memo called "PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL January 6 scenario" about how fucked up Trump is: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/09/20/eastman.memo.pdf

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Monday, September 20, 2021 10:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Don't care. Didn't read.

You make that decision easy Second.

You haven't changed one single bit since the day I sobered up.

That was five years ago now bud.

How much of that time did you waste?

No use crying over that now.

But now might be the time you start asking yourself if you can afford to waste another five.

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You haven't changed one single bit since the day I sobered up.

6ix, possibly there is a happy-ever-after ending to your fairy tale life.

Until now, I believed you were faking your opinions. (I also believe Russian troll post here) I believed there never was any drinking, so there never was any sobering up. But then you write "lol Gunshot wounds are Covid deaths..." http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64577 Uh-oh, something’s wrong with 6ix.

What if 6ix has not been faking? What if the 6ix at fireflyfans is real, instead of an elaborate creation for the internet?

I never have any back and forth with people I know who are real life Trumptards because they are too messed up, too short tempered, too unstable. I also avoid political conversations with sun-burnt beggars holding cardboard signs. It is creepy to think 6ix is one of those real life Trumptard, not just somebody faking it.

I feel sad for genuine Trumptards and their squalid lives. They are as icky as Hollywood’s version of the Joker, played by Joaquin Phoenix. But what if real actor Phoenix had killed his actual mother and therapist in real life and been committed to a psych hospital before becoming a movie star? That would be as nasty as 6ix being a real Trumptard, not a troll pretending to be a Trumptard for laughs. If you are a real Trumptard I have to stop because you are too messed up in the head, 6ix. "Nobody died from covid/Trump won." That kind of mental illness. Living on $4,500 per year. That’s messed up, 6ix. Beggars who get $15 per day with their card board signs make more than that in a year:

"I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance." -- 6ix
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497

"Telling you that I don't believe a single person died of Covid wasn't honest enough for you?" -- 6ix
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&mid=11280
35#1128035

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Millennials are the highest paid generation in American history

https://jabberwocking.com/millennials-are-the-highest-paid-generation-
in-american-history/

"The American Dream is no longer true in the way it was for more than a hundred years: the average Millennial will earn less money than their parents."

This is yet another example of conventional wisdom that gets repeated forever even when recent evidence tells us it's no longer true. Here is household income at age 35-44 for Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials:

Millennials at age ~40 earn quite a bit more than Boomers did at age 40. This is median income adjusted for inflation, so it doesn't include zillionaires and it's real dollars.

But wait. Household income may have gone up because there are more two-earner families than in the past. That's true, so let's look at individual income:

Averaged together, Millennial income at age 40 is about 25% higher than Boomers at the same age, but the earnings of men have been basically flat while the earnings of women have gone up 75%. In other words, individual earnings of Millennials at age 40 are quite a bit higher than Boomers at age 40, but the distribution of those earnings is quite different.

There are technical details here about age distribution within the 35-44 band and a few other things, but nothing that makes more than a small difference. And you can always cherry pick the data to show anything you want. But if you just look at straightforward income figures, Millennials earn more than comparable Gen X and Boomer workers.

So what accounts for the ongoing myth of Millennials being worse off than Boomers? My guess is that lots of people simply refuse to acknowledge what's happened in recent years. In 2012 you could make a case that Millennials were indeed a lost generation, and it quickly became received wisdom that this was true. But starting in 2015 incomes began a powerful run, increasing by nearly a quarter before dropping a bit during the pandemic year of 2020.

In other words, the Great Recession hit Millennials hard, but it was a temporary hit and Millennials enjoyed strong income gains during the recovery. They are now the highest paid generation in American history, but only if you look at data going all the way to the present instead of just chopping things off at 2012 and never looking again.

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

lol

Wow. That's just hilariously wrong.

I suppose now is the part where we're supposed to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate rations to 20 grams per week, huh?

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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You haven't changed one single bit since the day I sobered up.
6ix, possibly there is a happy-ever-after ending to your fairy tale life.

Until now, I believed you were faking your opinions. (I also believe Russian troll post here) I believed there never was any drinking, so there never was any sobering up. But then you write "lol Gunshot wounds are Covid deaths..." http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64577 Uh-oh, something’s wrong with 6ix.

What if 6ix has not been faking? What if the 6ix at fireflyfans is real, instead of an elaborate creation for the internet?

I never have any back and forth with people I know who are real life Trumptards because they are too messed up, too short tempered, too unstable. I also avoid political conversations with sun-burnt beggars holding cardboard signs. It is creepy to think 6ix is one of those real life Trumptard, not just somebody faking it.

I feel sad for genuine Trumptards and their squalid lives. They are as icky as Hollywood’s version of the Joker, played by Joaquin Phoenix. But what if real actor Phoenix had killed his actual mother and therapist in real life and been committed to a psych hospital before becoming a movie star? That would be as nasty as 6ix being a real Trumptard, not a troll pretending to be a Trumptard for laughs. If you are a real Trumptard I have to stop because you are too messed up in the head, 6ix. "Nobody died from covid/Trump won." That kind of mental illness. Living on $4,500 per year. That’s messed up, 6ix. Beggars who get $15 per day with their card board signs make more than that in a year:

"I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance." -- 6ix
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497

"Telling you that I don't believe a single person died of Covid wasn't honest enough for you?" -- 6ix
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&mid=11280
35#1128035

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But what you don't understand is that because I live the life I do the opinions of anybody else about the way I live my life don't matter.

Anybody sitting in judgement of me regarding my finances is doing so from a severe disadvantage. Many of them, in fact.

There's no reason for me to lie about anything in my personal life here. Nobody would have made this story up about themselves and kept it up for years. People will lie online to brag about how rich they are, just like you do, but they don't literally fall apart and come within an inch of destroying their lives on display for everyone to see.

Yup. I was severely fucked up there for a long time. It's why I don't go around recommending that other men live my life. I don't think many could handle it without being fucked up. I had way more than I needed, and I didn't have a wife around to slap me around when I started getting stupid. So I drank for 5 years straight and completely shut everyone out of my life.

I've got a big redemption arc happening here man.

Hope you pull one off yourself one day. It's clear from your own post history that you are not a happy person.

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I've got a big redemption arc happening here man.

Hope you pull one off yourself one day. It's clear from your own post history that you are not a happy person.

You are incorrectly using "redemption arc": At its core, a redemption arc is a storytelling device where a character who is evil and destructive—or embodies evil, destructive traits—atones for their flaws and overcomes them, transforming from villain to hero.
https://www.google.com/search?q=redemption+arc+definition

Assuming you actually are alcoholic, you found the power of Jesus, or in your case, Trump, to stop. But without proof of alcoholism, you probably were trolling fireflyfans.net for years just to be trolling.
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

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lol

Wow. That's just hilariously wrong.

I suppose now is the part where we're supposed to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate rations to 20 grams per week, huh?

When you heard of the article: "Millennials are the highest paid generation in American history" you should have looked closer at the graphs because it shows all the pay gains coming during the Trump administration. Give all credit to Trump. (True credit goes to the top 1%, not to politicians, but since Trumptards profoundly misunderstand how the American economy actually works, Trumptards will blame/credit the wrong people. But Trumptards would not be struggling to stay in the middle class, 6ix, if they understood.)

https://jabberwocking.com/millennials-are-the-highest-paid-generation-
in-american-history/

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If China is rolling back capitalism and expanding state control of the economy, this is not good for the Chinese economy.

Free market capitalism may have its problems, but it delivers the goods when it comes to economic growth. China moving even further toward a state-directed economy is almost certain to be a self-destructive move.

It's a funny thing. Back during Cold War 1.0 I felt that right-wingers who hyped the Soviet threat were showing that they didn't have the courage of their economic convictions. The US practiced free market capitalism while the Soviets ran a heavily state-directed socialism. If you really believed in capitalism, you would also have believed that the US would inevitably crush the Soviets and eventually put them into bankruptcy if they tried to keep up (or pretended to).

This is why, aside from the nuclear threat, I was never much worried about the Soviet Union's global ambitions. I did believe in capitalism, and the Soviet Union seemed like a country that would fall further and further behind us until its influence in the world was all but gone.

Now we're stumbling into Cold War 2.0, and China is certainly a bigger economic competitor than the old Soviets ever were. Nevertheless, I still believe in capitalism. China is far behind us economically, and if they're actively backing away from free markets they're unlikely to ever make up the gap.

And that's not all. I'm no China expert, but I've long thought that China is likely to reach a point this decade where they start to have real challenges from both demographic decline and a difficult transition away from a low-wage economy. If they also choose this decade to strangle their economy their problems will only multiply.

I'm all in favor of keeping a gimlet eye on China. Our plan of engaging with them in hopes that they'd become a better actor on the world stage obviously didn't work, and over the last few years it's become increasingly obvious that they consider us their #1 adversary. That said, it would be wise on our part not to overestimate their capabilities or to panic every time they launch a new aircraft carrier. If the Journal is right about their economic direction, we will simply outgrow them, just as we outgrew the Soviet Union.

Have faith in capitalism, China hawks!

https://jabberwocking.com/is-china-rolling-back-capitalism-and-state-c
ontrol-of-the-economy/

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:49 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Free market capitalism makes a few people very wealthy but robs everyone else: you've posted that yourself.

Now you're posting something completely different.

Tomorrow you'll be posting something different again. That's why nobody takes you seriously.

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Free market capitalism makes a few people very wealthy but robs everyone else: you've posted that yourself.

Now you're posting something completely different.

Tomorrow you'll be posting something different again. That's why nobody takes you seriously.

Did you see these graphs? Both are on this page. 1kiki, you might not be prospering because you don't pay attention to important "details", like income adjusted for inflation, but the median American is prospering. If you want the median American to get a bigger share than the wealthiest 1% er, that will happen only if tax laws change. The laws won't change because every GOP Senator will be opposed to change and just one Senator can stymie passage of a new law. If every GOP Senator takes turns preventing passage, nothing can possibly change, even if every Democratic Senator wants change.

The relevant article to explain how the GOP can do this is "Ten Ways to Bring the Senate to Its Knees"
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/general/news/2010/09/28/8328/m
inority-rules/

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:07 PM

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I've got a big redemption arc happening here man.

Hope you pull one off yourself one day. It's clear from your own post history that you are not a happy person.
You are incorrectly using "redemption arc": At its core, a redemption arc is a storytelling device where a character who is evil and destructive—or embodies evil, destructive traits—atones for their flaws and overcomes them, transforming from villain to hero.
https://www.google.com/search?q=redemption+arc+definition

Assuming you actually are alcoholic, you found the power of Jesus, or in your case, Trump, to stop. But without proof of alcoholism, you probably were trolling fireflyfans.net for years just to be trolling.
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

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Trump didn't make me stop drinking. Biden* won't make me start drinking.

I have plenty of proof of alcoholism. I've never deleted a post here.

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lol

Wow. That's just hilariously wrong.

I suppose now is the part where we're supposed to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate rations to 20 grams per week, huh?
When you heard of the article: "Millennials are the highest paid generation in American history" you should have looked closer at the graphs because it shows all the pay gains coming during the Trump administration. Give all credit to Trump. (True credit goes to the top 1%, not to politicians, but since Trumptards profoundly misunderstand how the American economy actually works, Trumptards will blame/credit the wrong people. But Trumptards would not be struggling to stay in the middle class, 6ix, if they understood.)

I'm not going to give Trump credit for it, because it's bullshit. I'll let Trump go ahead and take credit for it and let the drones who watch Fox News all day believe him.

I'm not struggling to stay in the middle class, buddy.

I'm doing better than 99% of the people in the middle class, and I hardly have to work.

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I'm doing better than 99% of the people in the middle class . . .

Really? I doubt you have seen the Raw data: Middle-class incomes have done better than you probably think
https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-middle-class-incomes-have-done-bett
er-than-you-probably-think/

It remains the case that income growth has been worse for the middle class than for anyone else, thanks to massive growth among the rich and big growth in government assistance among the poor. If you wonder why the middle class feels squeezed, this is part of the answer. They feel like everyone else is doing better, and they're right.

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Don't care about income.

Don't need to.

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On a December morning in 1947 when three fellows at Princeton’s Institute for Advanced Study set out for the Third Circuit Court in Trenton, it was decided that the job of making sure that the brilliant but naively innocent logician Kurt Gödel didn’t say something intemperate at his citizenship hearing would fall to Albert Einstein. Economist Oscar Morgenstern would drive, Einstein rode shotgun, and a nervous Gödel sat in the back.

Studying for his citizenship test, Gödel realized that there was no safeguard against Article V, the portion of the Constitution that details the process of amendment, itself being amended. Theoretically, a sufficiently powerful political movement with legislative and executive authority could rapidly amend the articles of amendment so that a potential demagogue would be able to rule by fiat, all while such tyranny was perfectly constitutional. A paradox at the heart of the Constitution—something that supposedly guaranteed democracy having coiled within it rank authoritarianism. All three men driving to Trenton had a keen awareness of tyranny; all were refugees from Nazi Germany; all had found safe-haven on the pristine streets of suburban Princeton. After the Anschluss, Gödel was a stateless man, and though raised Protestant he was suspect by the Nazis and forced to emigrate. Gödel, with his wife, departed Vienna by the Trans-Siberian railroad, crossed from Japan to San Francisco, and then took the remainder of his sojourn by train to Princeton. His path had been arduous and he’d earned America, so when Gödel found a paradox at the heart of the Constitution, his desire to rectify it was born from patriotic duty. At the hearing, the judge asked Gödel how it felt to become a citizen of a nation where it was impossible for the government to fall into anti-democratic tyranny. But it could, Gödel told him, and “I can prove it.” Apocryphally, Einstein kicked the logician’s chair and ended that syllogism.

More at https://themillions.com/2021/09/this-isnt-the-essays-title.html

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Debt ceiling fight pits corporate America against Republicans

The Business Roundtable, which represents the CEOs of some of the nation’s largest companies, separately sounded the alarm that a default would saddle the federal government and private companies with significantly higher borrowing costs.

“Failure to lift the U.S. federal debt limit to meet U.S. obligations would produce an otherwise avoidable crisis and pose unacceptable risk to the nation’s economic growth, job creation and financial markets,” Business Roundtable CEO Joshua Bolten and Walmart CEO Doug McMillon wrote in a letter to congressional leaders.

Republican opposition to raising the debt limit underscores the divide between GOP lawmakers and corporate America that has only grown in recent years. Company executives can still count on Republicans to deliver tax cuts, but their influence has waned on other hot-button issues like climate change, voting rights and immigration.

No House Republicans voted for the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act after more than 150 large corporations employing 4 million U.S. workers urged them to support the bill. Corporate America also failed to generate GOP support for the Equality Act, a bill that would codify discrimination protections for LGBTQ individuals, and measures to provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

“The Republican Party has become a populist party, thanks largely to Donald Trump but also because of the presence of what’s now the Republican base. And for that very reason, corporate America has much less influence than it used to have,” said Geoff Kabaservice, director of political studies at the Niskanen Center, a right-leaning think tank.

“I think they’re right to be nervous,” he added, referring to major corporations worried about the potential of a default.

While many Republicans, including McConnell, have said that nobody wants the U.S. to default on its debt, GOP lawmakers have also expressed confidence that Democrats will take the blame if it happens since they control Congress and the White House.

“If the Democrats don’t do their job, I guess it will be political blowback for them,” Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), head of Senate Republicans’ campaign arm, said last week.

Business groups haven’t called out Republicans in the debt limit battle, instead urging both sides to come to an agreement. Corporations are wary of angering congressional Republicans, who have vowed to take revenge on companies that denounced state-level GOP voting laws and Republican attempts to overturn the 2020 election.

Even the Chamber of Commerce, which spends millions of dollars on ads backing Republicans’ reelection campaigns, drew backlash from GOP lawmakers like Sen. Tom Cotton (Ark.) after it endorsed several House Democrats in the 2020 election.

“Corporate America talked a big game about not donating to the campaigns of Republican politicians who voted to overturn the Electoral College result, and yet most of them in the end came around because they believe Republicans will be in the majority after the 2022 elections,” Kabaservice said. “On some level they think Republicans will still support their interests, whether it be tax cuts or deregulation.”

More at https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/573318-deb
t-ceiling-fight-pits-corporate-america-against

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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:25 PM

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"Corporate America" has been in the woke pocket of Democrats for the last 5 years.

Fuck Corporate America.

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Thursday, September 23, 2021 6:05 AM

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No, the Richest One Percent Don’t Pay 40 Percent of the Taxes.

One of the sad constants of American political debate is that, anytime the tax rate on the rich is to be either raised or lowered, Republicans will repeat a certain statistic. To wit, “The Stat” is that the highest-earning one percent of taxpayers pay 40 percent of all income taxes. Conservatives consider this fact a dispositive justification either against any proposal to increase taxes on the rich, or in favor of any plan to reduce it.

The actual truth about the American tax system is that the richest one percent earn about 21 percent of the income and pay 24 percent of the taxes:

More at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/fact-check-richest-1-dont-pay-
40-of-the-taxes.html

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Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:22 PM

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Why are Republicans starting up yet another debt ceiling battle? If we breached the debt ceiling and had to cut back spending to match incoming revenue, it would mean literally shutting down every single function of government, both domestic and defense, and whacking a trillion dollars or so from Medicare and Social Security. But it never hurt the Republicans at the polls, so they're gonna do it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/22/republicans-usually
-lose-shutdown-fights-so-why-are-they-going-there-again/

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Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:45 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Republicans usually lose shutdown fights. So why are they going there again?

Maybe Republicans engage in fights they'll lose to show their constituents where they stand on the issues.

It would be nice if democrats did that from time to time ... you know, complain about manufacturing and job outsourcing, whine about how much Israel is costing the US, pretend to care about the people the US had killed in its many global military misadventures ...

US House approves $1 billion for Israel's Iron Dome defense system
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/23/politics/iron-dome-house-vote/index
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Thursday, September 23, 2021 7:43 PM

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Why are Republicans starting up yet another debt ceiling battle?

To make it clear that Biden* and Biden* alone owns the inflation.

Democrats suck all the balls.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Why are Republicans starting up yet another debt ceiling battle?

To make it clear that Biden* and Biden* alone owns the inflation.

Democrats suck all the balls.

If government won't set prices, prices are set by industry, not by government. If prices are rising, blame the corporations. In the past, WWII for example, the government told corporations that prices will not be rising. The government told the corporations that if they don't like the prices then don't sell the product. That system worked fine, but industry hates it because it cuts into their profits. Recently, in Texas, electric prices went from 5 cents per kilowatt-hour to $9 per kilowatt-hour because that is upper limit the government of Texas set during a natural gas shortage. That $9 didn't encourage more generation of electricity. What was happening is that Texas let corporations gouge their customers for as long as there was a shortage of electricity. The corporations didn't have to gouge, but they could gouge, so they did gouge for as long as the governor and supplies allowed them. That's how prices really work, 6ix, which is not the way you think it works.

https://www.power-technology.com/news/texas-to-raise-energy-prices-and
-suspend-price-cap-amid-winter-storm/

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Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:41 PM

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Are Centrist Democrats in the Thrall of Right-Wing Economic Propaganda?

Surprising, at least to me, has been the self-destructive behavior of Democratic centrists — a term I prefer to “moderates,” because it’s hard to see what’s moderate about demanding that Biden abandon highly popular policies like taxing corporations and reducing drug prices. At this point it seems all too possible that a handful of recalcitrant Democrats will blow up the whole Biden agenda — and yes, it’s the centrists who are throwing a tantrum, while the party’s progressives are acting like adults.

So what’s motivating the sabotage squad? Part of the answer, I’d argue, is that they have internalized decades of right-wing economic propaganda, that their gut reaction to any proposal to improve Americans’ lives is that it must be unworkable and unaffordable.

Of course, this isn’t the whole story. We certainly shouldn’t underrate the influence of money: Both wealthy donors and Big Pharma have been nakedly throwing their weight around. Nor should we discount the importance of simple innumeracy: $3.5 trillion sounds like a lot of money, and you shouldn’t assume politicians understand (or think constituents understand) that this is proposed spending over the course of a decade, not a single year. It would amount to little more than 1 percent of gross domestic product over that period and would still leave overall government spending far below its level in other wealthy democracies. It also ignores the fact that the true cost, after net savings and new revenue, would be much less than $3.5 trillion.

And some politicians seem to suffer from the misguided notion that only spending on “hard” infrastructure, like roads and bridges, counts as investing in the nation’s future. That is, they haven’t caught up with the growing body of evidence for high economic returns to spending on people — especially spending that lifts children out of poverty.

Still, I often find myself surprised to hear politicians and pundits who don’t consider themselves part of movement conservatism peddling economic narratives that are nothing more than right-wing propaganda but have been repeated so many times that many people who should know better accept them as established fact.

I frequently hear, for example, that runaway spending and budget deficits caused the stagflation of the 1970s. In reality, federal debt shrank as a share of G.D.P. over the course of that decade (only to soar under President Ronald Reagan). To the extent that we understand ’70s stagflation, it seems to have been caused by a combination of oil shocks and feckless monetary policy. Big government had nothing to do with it.

I also sometimes hear even centrists giving Reagan’s tax cuts credit for turning the U.S. economy around. The truth is that most Americans did worse in the decades after the Reagan tax cuts than in the corresponding previous period; the post-Reagan boom, such as it was, was limited to a small number of wealthy people.

Finally, it’s amazing how many people believe that European economies with high social spending are severely damaged by reduced incentives to work. It’s true that during the 1980s and 1990s much of the Continent seemed to suffer from “Eurosclerosis” — persistent high unemployment, even during periods of economic expansion. But that was a long time ago. These days generous welfare states often have better labor market performance than the United States.

Take the example of Denmark, which Fox Business at one point compared to Venezuela. Indeed, if there were any truth to right-wing dogma, Denmark should be an economic hellhole. It has vastly higher social spending than we do; two-thirds of its workers are union members, and those unions are so powerful that they forced McDonald’s to pay its workers $22 an hour.

But the reality is that working-age Danes are more likely than their American counterparts to have jobs. It’s true that real G.D.P. per capita is slightly lower in Denmark, but that’s mainly because Denmark, unlike the U.S., isn’t a no-vacation nation; the Danes actually do take some time off from work.

The point is that as far as I can tell, those troublesome Democratic centrists are blinded by an economic narrative that was deliberately created to block progress and justify vast inequality. So they imagine that the Biden agenda — which is a fairly modest effort to address our nation’s very real problems — is somehow irresponsible and a threat to the nation’s future.

I would urge them to reconsider their premises. Biden’s proposed spending isn’t irresponsible and wouldn’t hurt growth. On the contrary, it would be deeply irresponsible not to invest in people as well as concrete, and if you look at the evidence, rather than repeating right-wing dogma, you realize that Biden’s agenda is actually pro-growth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/opinion/democrats-biden.html

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