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Should Only the Little People Pay Taxes? Why is the G.O.P. objectively pro-tax evasion?

The Treasury Department believes that there is a “tax gap,” taxes owed but not paid, of more than $500 billion every year; some estimates put the number much higher. And the Biden administration proposes giving the I.R.S. enough resources to reduce this gap as a way to help pay for investment in America’s future.

Republicans negotiating over a possible infrastructure bill ruled out paying for it in part by giving the Internal Revenue Service more resources to go after tax evasion. If the administration goes this route, it will apparently do so with little if any Republican support.

Just to be clear, I’m not surprised to learn that a significant number of senators are sympathetic to the interests of wealthy tax cheats, that they are objectively pro-tax evasion. I am, however, surprised that they are willing to be so open about their sympathies.

There is, after all, a big difference between arguing for low taxes on the rich and arguing, in effect, that rich people who don’t pay what they legally owe should be allowed to get away with it.

One recent estimate is that more than 20 percent of the income of the top 1 percent goes unreported. Republicans opposing stronger tax enforcement are barely even trying to justify themselves, except by bringing up old, long-debunked claims that the I.R.S. targeted conservative groups. Yet they seem determined to defend the privileges of wealthy tax cheats. Why?

Obviously some big tax cheats are also big political donors. What I’d suggest is that the cheats’ clout within the G.O.P. has actually increased as the party has gotten crazier.

There have always been wealthy Americans who dislike the right’s embrace of racial hostility and culture wars but have been willing to swallow their distaste as long as Republicans keep their taxes low. But as the G.O.P. has become more extreme — as it has become the party of election lies and violent insurrection — who among the wealthy is still willing to make that trade-off?

Some rich Americans have always been right-wing radicals. But as for the rest, the party’s base within the donor class presumably consists increasingly of those among the wealthy with the fewest scruples and the least concern for their reputations — who are precisely the kind of people most likely to engage in blatant tax evasion.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210722231206/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/22/opinion/tax-evasion-irs.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Biden understands that in an unregulated market, the first thing successful competitors will do is subvert competition. That’s why, earlier this month, he signed an executive order to tighten enforcement of antitrust laws, facilitate drug importation, require companies to disclose more information for comparison shoppers, and restrict anti-competitive employment, rental, and consumer contracts. The point of the executive order, he explained on Monday, was to promote “fair and open competition … the cornerstone of American capitalism” by helping new businesses take on “giant corporations who have been free to ramp up prices because they haven’t had any real competition.”

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/07/biden-capitalism-socialist
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If any of this were true, you wouldn't see every big corporation blowing the Democratic Party and spewing their poisonous "Progressive" ideology all over the internet.

The Democrat Party is the Party of the rich people.

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If any of this were true, you wouldn't see every big corporation blowing the Democratic Party and spewing their poisonous "Progressive" ideology all over the internet.

The Democrat Party is the Party of the rich people.

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6ix, you lost touch with reality long time ago.

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6ix, you lost touch with reality long time ago.

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I wholly reject that assessment coming from you.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

You're using a comic to address reality?

Oh, the irony.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm doing just fine, buddy.

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Trump will be dead.

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I'm doing just fine, buddy.

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Wrong: “Trump will be fine.” - 6ix. Correct: Trump will be dead. Trump has been asking advisers in recent weeks if he could somehow reassume the presidency this year after listening to farfetched suggestions from conservative commentators and allies. Trump's fantasy is hopelessly insane. American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified. The idea is otherworldly and obscene.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm going to do you a solid and not consider this another death threat going on the list.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm fine buddy.

Better build that moat in your ivory tower though.

They won't be coming for me when Democrats destroy everything.

They're headed straight for your house.



Hope you really have all of that money you always brag about to pay your private security force. Don't bother calling the cops. They're not coming.


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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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... they will die early, as will Trump, because Death comes early for the crazy.

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... they will die early, as will Trump, because Death comes early for the crazy.

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Trump's 75. It's a bit late for him to have an early death.

Your posts are getting more and more bizarre, like the one where you sententiously (used in the pejorative sense) claimed Trump will die. Of course he will. We all will.

We used to have a joke about those kind of statements. We'd call them "the lampshade is red" statements, said with all the serious sanctimoniousness one can muster.

You OK? Having an evolving stroke now? Or had one recently?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The beautiful thing about the Democrats forcing everything to a head is that only one of us can be right.

We'll see who's crazy buddy.

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Interestingly, there's a definition for "early death" aka "premature mortality".

I was going to post it - and the link - but you won't read it.

And yes, Trump's old enough that no mater when he dies from now on, it's too late to call it an early death.

Speaking of nationality, are you a US citizen yet? Have you figured out the Constitution - yanno, electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and all those Constitutional specifics that as a natural born US citizen I cherish and abide by, but which you hate?

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The beautiful thing about the Democrats forcing everything to a head is that only one of us can be right.

We'll see who's crazy buddy.

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For a few weeks in 1992, U.S. politics were all about “family values.” President George H.W. Bush was in electoral trouble because of a weak economy and rising inequality. So his vice president, Dan Quayle, tried to change the subject by a crazy attack on Murphy Brown, a character in a TV sitcom, an unmarried woman who chose to have a child.

I was reminded of that incident when I read about recent crazy remarks by J.D. Vance, the author of “Hillbilly Elegy,” who is now a Republican Senate candidate in Ohio. Vance noted that some prominent Democrats don’t have children, and he lashed out at the “childless left.” He also praised the policies of Viktor Orban, the leader of Hungary, whose government is subsidizing couples who have children, and asked, “Why can’t we do that here?”

As The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel, who was there, pointed out, it was odd that Vance didn’t mention Joe Biden’s newly instituted child tax credit, which will make an enormous difference to many poorer families with children.

It was also interesting that he praised Hungary rather than other European nations with strong pronatalist policies. France, in particular, offers large financial incentives to families with children and has one of the highest fertility rates in the advanced world. So why did crazy Vance single out for praise a repressive, autocratic government with a strong white nationalist bent?

That was a rhetorical question.

More about how crazy Republicans are at https://web.archive.org/web/20210727013349/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/26/opinion/child-tax-credit-family-values.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Stay on topic.

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Speaking of nationality, are you a US citizen yet? Have you figured out the Constitution - yanno, electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and all those Constitutional specifics that as a natural born US citizen I cherish and abide by, but which you hate?

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Stay on topic.

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The topic is "A thread for Democrats Only"

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I don't care what the thread title is.

If you quote me, stay on topic.

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00018031.htm

Here ya' go. But I think you're too stupid to read it. Certainly you're too stupid to find it, even though I gave you the search terms to use.

Meanwhile, have you decided to accept the Constitution as the US law of the land yet? I know you've been extremely adverse to many of its provisions ... electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and such like. Is that your foreign culture coming through? Or just your personality?

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From 1979 to 1989, the rate of YPLL-65 (per 1000 population) decreased for white males (from 76.3 to 65.3 [14.4%]).

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Healthy People 2020 tracks healthy life expectancy using 3 measures ...
YPLL (years of potential life lost) is based on the number of deaths at each age up to some limit. For example, in the United States, the age limit is often placed at 75, so people who die before age 75 are defined as having lost some potential years of life.

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28919116/ Global, regional, and national age-sex specific mortality for 264 causes of death, 1980-2016: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2016

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https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/fatal_help/index.html Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System (WISQARS™) Fatal Injury Reports Help Menu

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This is but a small sampling of what one can find if one knows how to 'google'.


So, how are you getting along with the US Constitution (the document, not the battleship) these days? Still railing against those foreign concepts ... electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and such like?

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Originally posted by second:Trump voters are snowflakes. It's easy to shatter their calm.

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So, you can't talk about the topic of "early death'? You can't talk about the US Constitution?

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(That's exactly the same way I think the government should have addressed the 2008 collapse. Fix the underlying mortgages instead of making the 10,000x leveraged pyramid of lenders whole.)

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One thing to know for a fact - unleveraged money is always cheaper than leveraged money.

And in the meantime, all while shoring up financialism, roughly 10 MILLION homeowners lost their homes. https://www.marketplace.org/2018/12/17/what-we-learned-housing/

All that could have been avoided at reduced cost if the government had directly provided alternative mortgages.

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I think the answer for that is simple: a low-interest government loan program to pay off the ridiculous private student loan debt. The government makes money, and the people in debt get out from under more easily. And everyone is happy, except the lender-leeches. But hey, if they haven't lost actual money, they should be happy, too.

(That's exactly the same way I think the government should have addressed the 2008 collapse. Fix the underlying mortgages instead of making the 10,000x leveraged pyramid of lenders whole.)

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Originally posted by JO753:
I think uv them az rabid apes. Thoze that I no in RL can be launched into a tantrum with a few simple wordz agenst Trump.

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I wasn't just talking about making low interest home loans available to people in default. I meant to everybody.

No matter how you look at it, everybody wins. The 'financialism' section of the economy has the basis for its leveraged 'assets' stabilized. The homeowners scrape off the leeches. And the government makes money.

And nothing gets 'given' away to anybody.

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1kiki wants 0% mortgages. 6ix wants 0% student loans. I want 0% payday loans. Why can't we have it all?

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Use your imagination for why there aren't 61 U.S. Senators voting for 0% loans of all kinds. And while you are at it, try to imagine why even state legislatures aren't offering 0% loans. The Legislatures say that this is perfectly legal: Multi-Payment Installment Loan Fee Schedule

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Nobody but you wants 0% anything, Commie.

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I'm not worried about Nixon.

I'm worried about Biden*.

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Since you didn't get the point, I'll take the liberty of elaboration...

I'm not worried about what Nixon did before I was born.

I'm worried about what Biden* is doing now.

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