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Yes, but was this Trump's fault?

I mean, if you're going to blame Trump for the DC riot (and the few nutbags that attended), then blame Pelosi for all of the riots, arson, looting, and violence before then. In fact, let's blame Pelosi for REAVERBOT.

Goose sauce= gander sauce.

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Pelosi didn't falsely say that Trump won the election. Trump been beating the drum #StopTheSteal for weeks. Then it all came down to stopping the count of ballots in Congress for the Electoral College. Trump told his people to be there. He told them that V.P. Mike Pence could Stop the Steal. When Pence did not, Trump tweeted this just a minute before the Capitol Building riot started:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
1:24 PM · Jan 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897

Twitter marked that as: This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence

Trump was telling the Capitol Building rioters to do what "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution". Guess what happened next, Signym? It was on TV. The rioters stopped the counting of votes, which Mike Pence had refused to do for Trump.

#StopTheSteal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_United_Sta
tes_presidential_election#Stop_the_Steal

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, WAS THIS TRUMP'S FUKT?

My interpretation: Trump wanted a big rally, a noisy but PEACEFUL one, because he is planning another run for President in 2024. This was all about keeping his base together.

But it got out of hand, like sometimes happens after soccer matches when team fans go beyong cheering and waving flags. And the DC police, for whatever reason, were not prepared for a protest turning intrusive, so out of the 50,000 (some say) protesters, those on the nutbag end of the spectrum invaded the Capitol building.

What was the level of fighting? Were police injured during the fracas? Anything torched? Or did most people disperse and leave the building when the police showed up?

Not sure how it ended.

But Pelosi, bless her heart, is making a lot more out of it than it really was, calling it an "insurrection" (somehow, the "mostly peaceful" riots across over 150 cities in the USA and billions of dollars of damage didn't qualify) and blaming it all on Trump.

What a douche.

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So, yanno, charge those who broke the law with whatever Federal law they broke (bc this happened on Federal property ... Trespass? Stealing a doorknob?) and punish them at the same level as the BML/Antifa rioters for similar crimes.

What's the big deal? Seems simple to me.

Don't turn this into YET MORE politicking and try to start political purges, or use it as an excuse to censor social media, because if the Dems do they'll piss off even more people.

I think I'm a pretty good bellweather. Up until now, I was somewhere between being amused and annoyed at the Dems and the RNC and the liberaloid M$M/ corporate social media, but even I'm getting pissed off, and if I'm getting pissed off I'll bet a lot of other formerly non-partisan/ apolitical people are, too.

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So, WAS THIS TRUMP'S FUKT?

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lol - okay granny, whatever you say.

BTW - trap! Don't fall for SIG's transparent attempt to enrage people.

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SIGNYM:
So, WAS THIS TRUMP'S FUKT?

My interpretation: Trump wanted a big rally, a noisy but PEACEFUL one, because he is planning another run for President in 2024. This was all about keeping his base together.

But it got out of hand, like sometimes happens after soccer matches when team fans go beyong cheering and waving flags. And the DC police, for whatever reason, were not prepared for a protest turning intrusive, so out of the 50,000 (some say) protesters, those on the nutbag end of the spectrum invaded the Capitol building.

What was the level of fighting? Were police injured during the fracas? Anything torched? Or did most people disperse and leave the building when the police showed up?

Not sure how it ended.

But Pelosi, bless her heart, is making a lot more out of it than it really was, calling it an "insurrection" (somehow, the "mostly peaceful" riots across over 150 cities in the USA and billions of dollars of damage didn't qualify) and blaming it all on Trump.

What a douche.

*****

So, yanno, charge those who broke the law with whatever Federal law they broke (bc this happened on Federal property ... Trespass? Stealing a doorknob?) and punish them at the same level as the BML/Antifa rioters for similar crimes.

What's the big deal? Seems simple to me.

Don't turn this into YET MORE politicking and try to start political purges, or use it as an excuse to censor social media, because if the Dems do they'll piss off even more people.

I think I'm a pretty good bellweather. Up until now, I was somewhere between being amused and annoyed at the Dems and the RNC and the liberaloid M$M/ corporate social media, but even I'm getting pissed off, and if I'm getting pissed off I'll bet a lot of other formerly non-partisan/ apolitical people are, too.

CC:
lol - okay granny, whatever you say.
BTW - trap! Be smart - don't fall for SIG's transparent attempt to enrage.

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SIGNYM:
So, WAS THIS TRUMP'S FUKT?

My interpretation: Trump wanted a big rally, a noisy but PEACEFUL one, because he is planning another run for President in 2024. This was all about keeping his base together.

But it got out of hand, like sometimes happens after soccer matches when team fans go beyong cheering and waving flags. And the DC police, for whatever reason, were not prepared for a protest turning intrusive, so out of the 50,000 (some say) protesters, those on the nutbag end of the spectrum invaded the Capitol building.

What was the level of fighting? Were police injured during the fracas? Anything torched? Or did most people disperse and leave the building when the police showed up?

Not sure how it ended.

But Pelosi, bless her heart, is making a lot more out of it than it really was, calling it an "insurrection" (somehow, the "mostly peaceful" riots across over 150 cities in the USA and billions of dollars of damage didn't qualify) and blaming it all on Trump.

What a douche.

*****

So, yanno, charge those who broke the law with whatever Federal law they broke (bc this happened on Federal property ... Trespass? Stealing a doorknob?) and punish them at the same level as the BML/Antifa rioters for similar crimes.

What's the big deal? Seems simple to me.

Don't turn this into YET MORE politicking and try to start political purges, or use it as an excuse to censor social media, because if the Dems do they'll piss off even more people.

I think I'm a pretty good bellweather. Up until now, I was somewhere between being amused and annoyed at the Dems and the RNC and the liberaloid M$M/ corporate social media, but even I'm getting pissed off, and if I'm getting pissed off I'll bet a lot of other formerly non-partisan/ apolitical people are, too.

CC:
lol - okay granny, whatever you say.
BTW - trap! Be smart - don't fall for SIG's transparent attempt to enrage.

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You think I'm trying to "enrage" people? Have I called anyone names? Threatened anyone? Defamed anyone? Disparaged anyone's opinion? (Besides Pelosi's, that is.)

I think I'm just giving you my common-sense interpretation of what happened in a rather bemused manner.

What's to argue about? Charge and punish people who participated in the riot at the same level that you would charge and punish people who participated in the BLM/Antifa riots. They're doing the same thing and committing the same crimes, all politically-motivated. If you think the people who invaded the Capitol Building are "terrorists" then so are the Antifa/BLM rioters.

goose sauce = gander sauce

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MAGA internet turns on 'Coward' Trump

The president acknowledged his defeat and urged for political reconciliation. His online faithful didn’t take it well.

After years of fidelity, Donald Trump's most ardent online fans have finally turned on him.

All it took was for the president to acknowledge the reality of his loss a little over a day after they, the MAGA faithful, stormed the Capitol in a violent attempt to stop the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win.

“People were willing to die for this man and he just threw them all under the bus. That’s the only thing that’s shameful about the events of the past 36 hours,” Nick Fuentes, the host of the America First podcast and the unofficial leader of the white nationalist Groyper Army, angrily tweeted, shortly after Trump released a video Thursday night in which he conceded that Biden would be the next president and called for political reconciliation.

Cassandra Fairbanks, a prominent MAGA activist, tweeted: “[He] tells angry people to march to the capitol [and then] proceeds to throw his supporters under the bus.”

> tells angry people to march to the Capitol

>> proceeds to throw his supporters under the bus https://t.co/Kgd1OAyeiW
— Cassandra Fairbanks (@CassandraRules) January 8, 2021

Jacob Wohl, the political dirty trickster known for failed plots to incriminate Trump critics, reposted her Tweet on his Parler page.

And when far-right stunt journalist and failed congressional candidate Laura Loomer posted Trump’s concession video on Parler — “It’s over,” Loomer bemoaned, “Life is about to become very hard for conservatives in America” — the people in her replies were aghast that she acknowledged Trump’s own words. “He DID NOT CONCEDE! ITS HIS NEW ADMINISTRATION that will be coming in,” one respondent wrote, a sentiment repeated ad nauseam down her feed.

The despondency among the MAGA faithful online represented perhaps the sharpest break the community has ever made with a president they’ve exalted. But it also prompted a familiar brand of skepticism that has marked the past four years: Was Trump merely trying to placate his establishment handlers? Or did he truly betray the MAGA movement, days after several of his followers died while following his instructions to storm the Capitol?

In the past, Trump had been able to keep his online devotees close by swinging back into their good graces, normally with a pot-stirring tweet or the announcement of a controversial right-wing policy. But just hours after the president released his concession video, many expressed shock that he may have closed the book on them forever.

QAnon conspiracy theorists, praying for years that Trump would flush Satan-worshipping pedophile elites out of Washington, tore apart any scrap of data from the video to prove that he was playing one final trick. They subjected the time stamps to numerology, thinking that there was a secret message encoded.

“In no way did Trump say he conceded. He said: transitioning to a new Admin. As in, he gonna clear this one out and bring a new one,” tweeted We The Inevitable, a conspiracy account, getting more than 3,000 retweets within the hour. The account’s followers agreed that this was surely a sign that he was getting rid of Vice President Mike Pence — now cast as a MAGA traitor after participating in the certification of Biden’s win — and that on Jan. 20, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, now a full-fledged QAnon patriot, would replace him in Trump’s second term.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/maga-internet-turns-on-trump-
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“Nothing will stop us,” she tweeted Jan. 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!”

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“Nothing will stop us,” she tweeted Jan. 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!”

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That last wrdz tweeted by Ashli Babbit, the Trump Chump hoo got shot in the riot.

Hey! I got a song for that!

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real solution: https://fundrazr.com/71jIY1?ref=ab_f9ZUS0

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Brace yourself for all the renewed conflict with the Middle East.

You're going to miss the last 4 years where that wasn't a thing in retrospect.

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Counting the days till that dangerous buffoon is gone. What a debacle for America. Hope the firefly crew here are all well and safe

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Brace yourself for all the renewed conflict with the Middle East.

You're going to miss the last 4 years where that wasn't a thing in retrospect.

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It is less likely than ever because, thanks to Texas, America doesn't need Middle East Oil.

In 2019, the United States exported petroleum to about 190 countries. U.S. total petroleum exports averaged about 8.5 MMb/d, which included nearly 3 MMb/d of crude oil, equal to about 35% of total petroleum exports.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports
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Crude Oil Flow From Saudi Arabia To U.S. Falls To Zero
For the first time in 35 years, no oil flowed from Saudi Arabia to the United States last week, according to EIA data, in a show that the United States—at least for now—isn’t as reliant on oil from the Middle East like it used to be.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Crude-Oil-Flow-From-Saudi-A
rabia-To-US-Falls-To-Zero.html

6ix, as you predict, there could be another US backed war in the Middle East, but that prediction is less than certain, much like your unreliable predictions about elections.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My predictions about the election were sound. I had no idea that the Establishment had as much control as it evidently does.

Donald Trump received enough votes to soundly win any Presidential election prior to 2020 in 2020.

The deception is staggering, and elections are moot.

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The people who say that are the exact same people who wildly misrepresented Trump's joke about Putin finding Hillary's emails.

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1KIKI:
The people who say that are the exact same people who wildly misrepresented Trump's joke about Putin finding Hillary's emails.

WISHY: Now they are trying to retroactively spin past stupids.
IT WASN'T A JOKE, YOU FRELLING LEMMING
It was told as if it were a joke, but he absolutely meant it.
"Just joking, but not really" It's a thing, yanno?

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Arnold Schwarzenegger blasts 'spinelessness' of fellow Republicans after Capitol riot

Arnold Schwarzenegger shared words of hope on Sunday in the aftermath of the deadly mob at the U.S. Capitol, while also denouncing President Donald Trump and the "spinelessness" of his fellow Republicans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/arnold-schwarzenegger-blasts-s
pinelessness-of-fellow-republicans-after-capitol-riot/ar-BB1cD2XM?ocid=msedgntp



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Nobody cares, Arnie.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think I'm a pretty good bellweather.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Brace yourself for all the renewed conflict with the Middle East.

You're going to miss the last 4 years where that wasn't a thing in retrospect.

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It is less likely than ever because, thanks to Texas, America doesn't need Middle East Oil.

In 2019, the United States exported petroleum to about 190 countries. U.S. total petroleum exports averaged about 8.5 MMb/d, which included nearly 3 MMb/d of crude oil, equal to about 35% of total petroleum exports.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports
-and-exports.php

Crude Oil Flow From Saudi Arabia To U.S. Falls To Zero
For the first time in 35 years, no oil flowed from Saudi Arabia to the United States last week, according to EIA data, in a show that the United States—at least for now—isn’t as reliant on oil from the Middle East like it used to be.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Crude-Oil-Flow-From-Saudi-A
rabia-To-US-Falls-To-Zero.html

6ix, as you predict, there could be another US backed war in the Middle East, but that prediction is less than certain, much like your unreliable predictions about elections.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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My predictions about the election were sound. I had no idea that the Establishment had as much control as it evidently does.

Donald Trump received enough votes to soundly win any Presidential election prior to 2020 in 2020.

The deception is staggering, and elections are moot.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My predictions about the election were sound. I had no idea that the Establishment had as much control as it evidently does.

Donald Trump received enough votes to soundly win any Presidential election prior to 2020 in 2020.

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My interpretation of "the event" (try not to call it what it is): Downplay downplay downplay doooownplaaay downplay, word juggling, rationalization stretching, feign outrage, downplay. Collect rubles from Rethug Troll PAC

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1KIKI:
The people who say that are the exact same people who wildly misrepresented Trump's joke about Putin finding Hillary's emails.

WISHY: Now they are trying to retroactively spin past stupids.
IT WASN'T A JOKE, YOU FRELLING LEMMING
It was told as if it were a joke, but he absolutely meant it.
"Just joking, but not really" It's a thing, yanno?

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Originally posted by WISHY...
SIGNYM: My interpretation of "the event" (try not to call it what it is): Downplay downplay downplay doooownplaaay downplay, word juggling, rationalization stretching, feign outrage, downplay. Collect rubles from Rethug Troll PAC

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So, here's WISHY, once again claiming to know what's in someone's mind amd once again wrong.

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So, here's WISHY, once again claiming to know what's in someone's mind amd once again wrong.

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CLASSIC. If yer gonna call someone WRONG, learn to check for TYPOS.
And....OH NOES. I forgot to care!

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Counting the days till that dangerous buffoon is gone. What a debacle for America. Hope the firefly crew here are all well and safe

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Been a while.

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Counting the days till that dangerous buffoon is gone. What a debacle for America. Hope the firefly crew here are all well and safe

THUGR: Been a while.

MAGONS: Yes it has. I duck in and out but don’t find much of interest these days

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