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So..5 people are dead as a result of Chumps stunts to avoid prosecution and litigations

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Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:17 PM

REAVERFAN


Well, nobody said they were at all intelligent.

We call them trumptards for many good reasons.



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Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Well, nobody said they were at all intelligent.

We call them trumptards for many good reasons.

I know people I respect as capable citizens who also voted for Trump. Not so oddly, all these respectable Trump voters are rich. They aren't Trumptards because they see him for what he is: a crook who makes them rich as he helps himself. But then there are the guys I've known since high school. Well, actually not that many because my dumb high school buddies are mostly dead from the usual stuff: drinking, smoking, too much barbecue, cheating on the wives (that sure as hell killed a few from Sam Rayburn High School in Pasadena). But the ones that are still alive, the relative geniuses, the smartest Trumptards, are not rich. Their lives are full of domestic dramas and financial difficulties that slightly smarter people can easily avoid. These guys stupidly crash into every difficulty imaginable, but it is never their fault. It is somebody else caused their problems: their bosses, the economy, their wives, the Democrats, the illegal aliens, never themselves at fault. They never look in the mirror to see that it is always their fault, and God can't save them from their own stupidity and lack of self-control. Not even Trump can save them.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:27 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
These guys stupidly crash into every difficulty imaginable, but it is never their fault. It is somebody else caused their problems: their bosses, the economy, their wives, the Democrats, the illegal aliens, never themselves at fault. They never look in the mirror to see that it is always their fault, and God can't save them from their own stupidity and lack of self-control. Not even Trump can save them.



They are usually victim blamers as well. Hubby's family just couldn't help themselves with that one. I once came down with a really bad flu the day after we got to their house for a weekend visit and they thought I was asleep and started talking about me, saying I was faking a flu to get attention. Yep, I faked a fever and threw up 6 times.. TO GET ATTENTION

Our car once got hit by a deer (you read that right) and it was because we "were driving too fast".

I can think of a few other things, but my point is... they can't feel anything for anyone, and if they do they have to blame other people for them FEELING something.

That one always drove me batty. It's like you are already having a horrible time and you have to stop and explain what victim blaming is to people who are too dim to get the concept..



Anyways..

The death count went up to five today after a cop got bashed on the head with a fire extinguisher and didn't survive it.

Thought Trumpers were FOR the police??






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Friday, January 8, 2021 6:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
These guys stupidly crash into every difficulty imaginable, but it is never their fault. It is somebody else caused their problems: their bosses, the economy, their wives, the Democrats, the illegal aliens, never themselves at fault. They never look in the mirror to see that it is always their fault, and God can't save them from their own stupidity and lack of self-control. Not even Trump can save them.



They are usually victim blamers as well. Hubby's family just couldn't help themselves with that one. I once came down with a really bad flu the day after we got to their house for a weekend visit and they thought I was asleep and started talking about me, saying I was faking a flu to get attention. Yep, I faked a fever and threw up 6 times.. TO GET ATTENTION

Our car once got hit by a deer (you read that right) and it was because we "were driving too fast".

I can think of a few other things, but my point is... they can't feel anything for anyone, and if they do they have to blame other people for them FEELING something.

That one always drove me batty. It's like you are already having a horrible time and you have to stop and explain what victim blaming is to people who are too dim to get the concept..

Anyways..

The death count went up to five today after a cop got bashed on the head with a fire extinguisher and didn't survive it.

Thought Trumpers were FOR the police??


It's always fun to watch someone blame people for ... blaming people.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 7:41 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

Well, nobody said they were at all intelligent.

We call them trumptards for many good reasons.




There're 4 years of Trumps documented presidency. All four are replete with corrupt transgressions. Comrades Signym, kiki and yes Jack=ass post to delegitimize the reporting on them. It is meaningless because theirs is the outlying opinion. The false interpretation of reality. It’s sad but a part of life.

T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 8:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
These guys stupidly crash into every difficulty imaginable, but it is never their fault. It is somebody else caused their problems: their bosses, the economy, their wives, the Democrats, the illegal aliens, never themselves at fault. They never look in the mirror to see that it is always their fault, and God can't save them from their own stupidity and lack of self-control. Not even Trump can save them.



They are usually victim blamers as well. Hubby's family just couldn't help themselves with that one. I once came down with a really bad flu the day after we got to their house for a weekend visit and they thought I was asleep and started talking about me, saying I was faking a flu to get attention. Yep, I faked a fever and threw up 6 times.. TO GET ATTENTION

Our car once got hit by a deer (you read that right) and it was because we "were driving too fast".

I can think of a few other things, but my point is... they can't feel anything for anyone, and if they do they have to blame other people for them FEELING something.

That one always drove me batty. It's like you are already having a horrible time and you have to stop and explain what victim blaming is to people who are too dim to get the concept..

I looked for the book to explain what is wrong with these Trumptards. Interestingly, I found it in a history book about economics from the Revolutionary War to the Civil War. Back then, there was a large percent of the population who were useless people. Today, there are people who made themselves useless, believing that Americans will have a good life even if they are stupid, cowardly, violence-prone, depressed, white ignoramuses. Trump has got them figured out.

Keep in mind, during the Revolutionary War, the richest people in the country were all white Southern elites. This was true even as about a third of white southerners were landless, desperately poor, often semi-vagrant. (Keri Leigh Merritt’s 2017 book, Masterless Men: Poor Whites and Slavery in the Antebellum South, is really good on that contradiction.)

Analyzing land policy, labor, and legal history, Keri Leigh Merritt reveals what happens to excess workers when a capitalist system is predicated on slave labor. With the rising global demand for cotton - and thus, slaves - in the 1840s and 1850s, the need for white laborers in the American South was drastically reduced, creating a large underclass that was unemployed or underemployed. These poor whites could not compete - for jobs or living wages - with profitable slave labor. Though impoverished whites were never subjected to the daily violence and degrading humiliations of racial slavery, they did suffer tangible socioeconomic consequences as a result of living in a slave society. Merritt examines how these “masterless” men and women threatened the existing southern hierarchy and ultimately helped push southern slaveholders toward secession and civil war.

Trump knows how to manipulate these “masterless” men and women, but he is terrible at planning his Civil War. Maybe smarter Republicans will do the actual planning, while Trump becomes the figurehead, the Jefferson Davis of a new Confederacy.

Download that free book Masterless Men: Poor Whites and Slavery in the Antebellum South at https://libgen.unblockit.ltd/search.php?req=Keri+Leigh+Merritt

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 8, 2021 9:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It's always fun to watch someone blame people for ... blaming people.

The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Calls on Trump to Resign
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/wall-street-journal-conser
vative-editorial-board-calls-on-trump-to-resign.html


The Conservative editorial board of the Wall Street Journal called on President Donald Trump to resign in an unsigned staff editorial Thursday evening. The editorial goes much further than other Republican voices, particularly those in Congress, which have been calculating in their statements on how to respond to Wednesday’s siege on the Capitol. “This was an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election,” the editorial states. “It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr. Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable.”

The Journal was unequivocal in its reading of the events of the day and Trump’s role in them, a seemingly redundant step, but saying plainly what happened this week over and over again is vital ahead of the revisionist onslaught. Establishing factual truth, out loud, is indispensable to accountability, which will frame the historical rendering the event. “In concise summary, on Wednesday the leader of the executive branch incited a crowd to march on the legislative branch,” the Journal wrote. “The express goal was to demand that Congress and Vice President Mike Pence reject electors from enough states to deny Mr. Biden an Electoral College victory. When some in the crowd turned violent and occupied the Capitol, the President caviled and declined for far too long to call them off. When he did speak, he hedged his plea with election complaint.”


Donald Trump’s Final Days
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-final-days-11610062773
The best outcome would be for him to resign to spare the U.S. another impeachment fight.

We know an act of grace by Mr. Trump isn’t likely, but it is best for everyone, himself included, if he goes away quietly. In any case this week has probably finished him as a serious political figure. He has cost Republicans the House, the White House, and now the Senate. Worse, he has betrayed his loyal supporters by lying to them about the election and the ability of Congress and Mr. Pence to overturn it. He has refused to accept the basic bargain of democracy, which is to accept the result, win or lose.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 8, 2021 10:09 AM

REAVERFAN


When fascists take over, death is always the first result.

The news is eulogizing the woman who got shot. She's dead because she believed a shit ton of nonsense; the nonsense posted here every day by Siggy, Kiki, and other foreign enemies of the United States.

Siggy, you killed her, you Russian cunt.

I'm done being nice.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 10:14 AM

THG

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Friday, January 8, 2021 10:19 AM

REAVERFAN


The woman who died was a military veteran. She was once a servant to her country.

Thanks to the delusions fed to her by Russian trolls and conspiracy nuts like 6ix, she died as a domestic terrorist and traitor to her country.

May she burn in Hell for eternity. Dumb bitch.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 10:19 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

When fascists take over, death is always the first result.

The news is eulogizing the woman who got shot. She's dead because she believed a shit ton of nonsense; the nonsense posted here every day by Siggy, Kiki, and other foreign enemies of the United States.

Siggy, you killed her, you Russian cunt.

I'm done being nice.





Using the C word is an insult to all women. That said I've been very clear I don't like Sig and some others here; the trolls. I Insult them and tell them I don't like them but. When someone can send someone else into a rage, that person then owns the other. Don't be owned.

T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 10:24 AM

REAVERFAN


Siggy is a Russian troll, an enemy of the United States. Siggy's lies got several not-too-bright people killed.

Murderer. Liar. Cunt.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
When fascists take over, death is always the first result.

The news is eulogizing the woman who got shot. She's dead because she believed a shit ton of nonsense; the nonsense posted here every day by Siggy, Kiki, and other foreign enemies of the United States.

Siggy, you killed her, you Russian cunt.

I'm done being nice.

If Mike Pence had thrown out the votes as Trump asked, there wouldn't have been a Capitol Building Riot by Trumptards. On the other hand, Trump would remain President and on January 20th there would be a White House Riot by Democrats. Mike Pence saved us from that alternate history.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 8, 2021 11:04 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


I wonder what would have happened if the rioters had made it into either chamber before they were evacuated? Hostage situation? Certainly death and greater injury on both sides. As it was, I'm truly shocked only 5 died.

Did either Trump or the rioters have a plan beyond the front door?

It's clear that many of these people have been brainwashed. No sane person could possibly believe the tenants of Q-Anon. Or most of what Fox news promotes, or the lying-est PoS president ever. Perhaps we need a Ministry of Truth? Or an overseas war? A common enemy to bring us closer together and help focus people's anger elsewhere? < / kidding >

Lots to do.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I wonder what would have happened if the rioters had made it into either chamber before they were evacuated? Hostage situation? Certainly death and greater injury on both sides. As it was, I'm truly shocked only 5 died.

Did either Trump or the rioters have a plan beyond the front door?

It's clear that many of these people have been brainwashed. No sane person could possibly believe the tenants of Q-Anon. Or most of what Fox news promotes, or the lying-est PoS president ever. Perhaps we need a Ministry of Truth? Or an overseas war? A common enemy to bring us closer together and help focus people's anger elsewhere? < / kidding >

Lots to do.

People who vote for guys like Trump or Senator Ted Cruz are divided into two groups: rich/successful or stupid/gullible. (The second group often think they are in the first group. Ha-ha!) Their minds are set. One group for sound reasons, the other for unsound. Where do the unsound minds get their peculiar ideas? From Fox News in the evening or indirectly from people who watch Fox. Here is part of a story about it I read yesterday:

I continue to be haunted by an offhand question a friend asked me a few years ago. I don’t remember what the Fox outrage du jour was, but he asked me why I was skeptical. It was something so outrageous that I wasn’t prepared for it, so I just said lamely, “They’re lying.” He asked, in all sincerity I think, “But why would they lie?” I had no answer—not one that would do me any good, anyway. As far as he was concerned, Fox was a news outlet. Why would a news outlet baldly lie?

The story continues at "Forget Social Media: Fox News Is Still the Real Problem"
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2021/01/forget-social-media-fox
-news-is-still-the-real-problem
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 8, 2021 12:24 PM

REAVERFAN


I agree with everything this woman is saying. Tom Cotton wants to run for president in '24, and he's trying to distance himself from the fascism he fully supported every step of the way. Never forgive. Never forget.

Tom Cotton Tries To Distance Himself From The Trumpist Meltdowns He Enabled And Created





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Friday, January 8, 2021 12:57 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

Siggy is a Russian troll, an enemy of the United States. Siggy's lies got several not-too-bright people killed.

Murderer. Liar. Cunt.




Signym is sick in the head reaver I really hope you are not. Enough said on that.

T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 12:59 PM

THG



T


I agree with the sentiment of never forget never forgive when it comes to Tom Cotton and many many others.

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

I agree with everything this woman is saying. Tom Cotton wants to run for president in '24, and he's trying to distance himself from the fascism he fully supported every step of the way. Never forgive. Never forget.

Tom Cotton Tries To Distance Himself From The Trumpist Meltdowns He Enabled And Created







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Friday, January 8, 2021 1:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

REAVERBOT:
When fascists take over, death is always the first result.

The news is eulogizing the woman who got shot. She's dead because she believed a shit ton of nonsense; the nonsense posted here every day by Siggy, Kiki, and other foreign enemies of the United States.

Siggy, you killed her, you Russian cunt.
I'm done being nice.


THUGR: Using the C word is an insult to all women. That said I've been very clear I don't like Sig and some others here; the trolls. I Insult them and tell them I don't like them but. When someone can send someone else into a rage, that person then owns the other. Don't be owned.



This sounds like FREM's threat, recycled. I hope you understand why I don't engage with REAVERBOT anymore. I'm just an elderly woman with an adult- disabled daughter, and an even-more elderly hubby to take care of.

It's one thing to be slagged and defamed, it's another thing to be threatened.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 1:10 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

REAVERBOT:
When fascists take over, death is always the first result.

The news is eulogizing the woman who got shot. She's dead because she believed a shit ton of nonsense; the nonsense posted here every day by Siggy, Kiki, and other foreign enemies of the United States.

Siggy, you killed her, you Russian cunt.
I'm done being nice.


THUGR: Using the C word is an insult to all women. That said I've been very clear I don't like Sig and some others here; the trolls. I Insult them and tell them I don't like them but. When someone can send someone else into a rage, that person then owns the other. Don't be owned.



This sounds like FREM's threat, recycled.


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Kill yourself, fascist bitch.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 1:11 PM

REAVERFAN



How The Mighty MAGA Uprising Of 2021 Failed Spectacularly
All they did was humiliate the country in front of the world and ensure Joe Biden's victory was certified.
https://thebanter.substack.com/p/how-the-mighty-maga-uprising-of-2021

Wednesday did not turn out to be the great day of victory white Republican voters were anticipating. It’s not entirely clear what the plan was but the day did not end with Donald Trump overthrowing the government of the United States or with Democrats and “traitorous” Republicans in shackles and/or executed in the streets of Washington D.C. It did, however, end with Joe Biden being certified as the next President of the United States.

The Mighty MAGA uprising that was supposed to be the glorious “Storm” that would wash away all the evil of the world was a complete and total failure. All they did was humiliate the country in front of the world.

That’s not to say there wasn’t plenty of spectacle and drama, two things the MAGA Moron Mob thrive on. Screaming, mindless rage, and rioting abounded. But at the end of the day, Trump’s hoped for Beer Hall Putsch turned out to be Trump’s Beer Hall Putz.

Like the dog that caught the car, the mob of imbecile insurrectionists had no idea what to do once they got inside the Capitol. There was no plan, just mindless rage and hate. The only reason most of Trump’s terrorists are still alive is because they were shielded by the color of their skin and the lean of their ideology. Otherwise, America’s first insurrection in living memory would have ended in a bloodbath.

White Privilege On Steroids
Let’s be 100% clear on what happened on Wednesday: A crowd of rabidly racist fascists showed up to listen to a series of inflammatory speeches by grifters and lunatics….



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Friday, January 8, 2021 1:26 PM

REAVERFAN


Tucker Carlson is an evil Nazi piece of shit.





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Friday, January 8, 2021 1:45 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

Tucker Carlson is an evil Nazi piece of shit.




And has been for a very long time. I hope the backlash hits them, fox, where it hurts. I don't watch them so I don't know what their saying. Listening to them makes me ill.

T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 1:55 PM

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On Wednesday morning, Ginni Thomas — wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas — endorsed the rally in Washington demanding that Congress overturn the election. She then sent her “LOVE” to the demonstrators. On her Facebook page, she frequently promotes baseless conspiracy theories about a “coup” against Trump led by Jewish philanthropist George Soros, a frequent target of anti-Semitic hate. Thomas draws many of these theories from the internet, including an anti-vax Facebook group that claimed Bill Gates would use the COVID vaccine to kill people.

In turn, Trump has rewarded Thomas with an extraordinary amount of access to the Oval Office. Her advocacy group Groundswell got an audience with the president in early 2019. According to the New York Times, the meeting was arranged after Clarence and Ginni Thomas had dinner with the Trumps. The New York Times also reported that Ginni Thomas compiled lists of federal employees whom she deemed insufficiently loyal to the president. She sent her lists to Trump, urging him to fire the disloyal employees.

Throughout the 2020 campaign, Thomas remained active on Facebook, condemning Black Lives Matter, opposing COVID-19 shutdowns, and touting the “Walk Away” movement, which purports to spotlight Democrats who became Republicans under Trump. (At least two individuals featured in the “Walk Away” series, both Black, were actually models from royalty-free stock photos.)

In all likelihood, Ginni Thomas will face no consequences for cheerleading a rally that sought to overturn an election. Her husband will ignore the controversy and continue to rule on cases that involve his wife’s lobbying efforts. (Clarence Thomas has never recused from any case because of his wife’s lobbying activities.) We may never know how much influence a conspiracy theorist has on the highest court’s most conservative justice.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/ginni-thomas-donald-trump-
clarence-thomas-capitol-riot.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 8, 2021 2:05 PM

THG


That's very disappointing second.

T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:00 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm just an elderly woman with an adult- disabled daughter, and an even-more elderly hubby to take care of.

It's one thing to be slagged and defamed, it's another thing to be threatened.




Oh, WOE IS YOU.


YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE.
You don't HAVE to troll and manipulate.
You do so because you LOVE to get a reaction for your dumbass ideologies.

We got your game, we are on to your tricks.

We're all fed up with your shit.






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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SignyM:
I'm just an elderly woman with an adult- disabled daughter, and an even-more elderly hubby to take care of.

It's one thing to be slagged and defamed, it's another thing to be threatened.



WISHY: Oh, WOE IS YOU.


YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE.
You don't HAVE to troll and manipulate.
You do so because you LOVE to get a reaction for your dumbass ideologies.

We got your game, we are on to your tricks.

We're all fed up with your shit.

WISHY, can't refute my posts so wants me to STFU.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:22 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

SignyM:
I'm just an elderly woman with an adult- disabled daughter, and an even-more elderly hubby to take care of.

It's one thing to be slagged and defamed, it's another thing to be threatened.



WISHY: Oh, WOE IS YOU.


YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE.
You don't HAVE to troll and manipulate.
You do so because you LOVE to get a reaction for your dumbass ideologies.

We got your game, we are on to your tricks.

We're all fed up with your shit.

WISHY, can't refute my posts so wants me to STFU.

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You're a Russian troll and a terrorist enemy of the United States. Eat shit and die, bitch. No one wants you here.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:24 PM

REAVERFAN


Derrick Evans, lawmaker who filmed himself during US Capitol riot, faces charges – video
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2021/jan/08/derrick-evans-we
st-virginia-lawmaker-filmed-himself-during-us-capitol-insurrection-video


Lock that traitor piece of shit UP! 10 years is the minimum sentence. Make it 20.

I LOVE that the feds are rounding up these terrorists. Try 'em and fry 'em.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Only In Your Imagination Was That An Attempted “Coup”
Michael Tracey

We are being told that a “coup attempt” no longer needs to be understood as constituting an “attempt” to seize control of the government — as had generally been the common understanding of the term before the events of yesterday, which have caused the entire political and media establishment to go completely haywire.
Is it unusual for a mob to breach the Capitol Building — ransacking offices, taking goofy selfies, and disrupting the proceedings of Congress for a few hours? Yes, that’s unusual. But the idea that this was a real attempt at a “coup” — meaning an attempt to seize by force the reins of the most powerful state in world history — is so preposterous that you really have to be a special kind of deluded in order to believe it. Or if not deluded, you have to believe that using such terminology serves some other political purpose. Such as, perhaps, imposing even more stringent censorship on social media, where the “coup” is reported to have been organized. Or inflicting punishment on the man who is accused of “inciting” the coup, which you’ve spent four years desperately craving to do anyway. He’s already been effectively banned from Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter — a rubicon-crossing event in the suppression of political speech which, of course, is being cheered by all the usual suspects who otherwise claim to be stalwart defenders of enlightened liberal values.

At no point yesterday was the American government at risk of being “overthrown,” as members of Congress have laughably suggested. Per usual, our guardians of consensus can’t bring themselves to describe what unfolded with any degree of dispassion or calm. Instead we’re told by the incoming Senate Majority Leader, for example, that January 6, 2021 will now “live in infamy” right alongside December 7, 1941. Elected officials issued emotional notices that they were “okay,” like they had just narrowly avoided being crushed in an earthquake, or escaped the World Trade Center on 9/11. This is made all the more odd because the only person upon whom lethal force was committed appears to have been a Trump-supporting woman who was shot point-blank in the throat by a Capitol Hill police officer. She’s now dead. Congress was temporarily inconvenienced.

Journalists and pundits, glorying in their natural state — which is to peddle as much free-flowing hysteria as possible — eagerly invoke all the same rhetoric that they’d abhor in other circumstances on civil libertarian grounds. “Domestic terrorism,” “insurrection,” and other such terms now being promoted by the corporate media will nicely advance the upcoming project of “making sure something like this never happens again.” Use your imagination as to what kind of remedial measures that will entail.
Trump’s promotion of election fraud fantasies has been a disaster not just for him, but for his “movement” — such as it exists — and it’s obvious that a large segment of the population actively wants to be deceived about such matters. But the notion that Trump has “incited” a violent insurrection is laughable. His speech Monday afternoon that preceded the march to the Capitol was another standard-fare Trump grievance fest, except without the humor that used to make them kind of entertaining. Trump didn’t command that his followers physically breach the Capitol Building. In fact, after previously saying he would join the march, he seems to just have gone home to tweet and watch TV. So, basically his normal routine on a typical day, minus a trip to the golf course.

Trump has never had the concentration, organizational acumen, or ideological coherence to mount a bonafide “coup,” and a mob intrusion which was swiftly dispersed by armed agents of the state doesn’t change that. Shortly after the breach, he released a video instructing his followers not to take Senators hostage or imprison Mike Pence, but to “go home.” No factions of the federal government joined the mob on Trump’s orders, because he didn’t bother issuing any. The whole episode never stood a the remotest chance of preventing the certification of Joe Biden, much less overthrowing the government. It was just another goofball charade, and in that sense a fitting end to the Trump presidency.
Still, there are many people who in positions of power who would like you to believe that a real-life “insurrection” is genuinely underway, and to develop a kind of exaggerated mythical understanding of what occurred at the Capitol. Because it will enable them to seize additional powers — not through a “coup,” but through the vast inflation of an alleged threat, which is always how they do its job.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 3:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Social media platforms remove Trump video urging supporters to leave U.S. Capitol


Also, Trump urging demonstrators to PEACEFULLY go to the Capitol and make their voices heard is hard to find.

I will post links as I have time.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 4:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Only In Your Imagination Was That An Attempted “Coup”
Michael Tracey



The people who say that are the exact same people who wildly misrepresented Trump's joke about Putin finding Hillary's emails.
And the people who repeat it are the same idiots who repeated that same shit 4 years ago.
Nothing has changed - except that now, about half the country is firmly against the democrats* when before they used to be less partisan. So if the democrats* have hardened their position, so has everyone else.




If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 4:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"... to PEACEFULLY and PATRIOTICALLY make your voices heard" (1:08)





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Friday, January 8, 2021 4:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Dbl

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Friday, January 8, 2021 4:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I'm posting it here in a non-loading format.

http :// youtu.be/j_A-jnovP-A


And ... so much for Trump telling people to riot.


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Friday, January 8, 2021 5:04 PM

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Trump's been planning this reichwing terror attack for weeks. The people there had been planning it for weeks.

Stop lying like a couple of stupid, evil Russian troll cunts. You're idiots.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 5:06 PM

REAVERFAN


The roundup of all these trumptard domestic terrorists continues.



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Friday, January 8, 2021 5:15 PM

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Matt Gaetz gets up in front of congress and lies his ass off.

Guess Who Matt Gaetz Blames For the Pro-Trump Mob That Stormed the U.S. Capitol







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Friday, January 8, 2021 5:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Trump tells protesters to go home peacefully



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Friday, January 8, 2021 5:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump's been planning this reichwing terror attack for weeks.


Got quotes for that?

OF COURSE NOT!

And that's why all of your whinging, and Pelosi*'s whinging, will go ... nowhere. (Unless of course they suborn perjured testimony.)



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 6:32 PM

THG


I know you two, Sig and Kiki, just can’t grasp it, but you are constantly spoken of in the mainstream of society. What you two post here is what polite society says is fostered in nutsvill.

We see what you two, Jack and on occasion others post, matches up with the delusional shit. Again, what mainstream society calls bizarre. Judging from what’s reported in the news, social media and far-right media outlets are the primary sources of domestic misinformation. And in fact, social media and far-right outlets are hotbeds of misinformation.

Some here point out the error of your ways, because we know where what you post came from. We know it’s all misinformation put out to manipulate the easily manipulated. It’s called click bait. Much the same as us clicking on reply or quote here. The difference is, some of us here are not easily manipulated into following conspiracy theories like you three. We want to discuss what mainstream society calls current events. Something you guys can't do and is why you reply with whataboutniss.



The Macedonian youngsters who cashed in on conservative outrage bait are back for 2020 and this time they’ve got a new ally helping them harvest clicks. Parler, the dollar-store Twitter clone catering to right wingers, is now proving to be a welcome host for the plagiarizing grifters from Eastern Europe.

New research published by the Stanford Internet Observatory and disinformation-tracking firm Graphika for the nonprofit Election Integrity Project shows that a handful of operators from the global clickbait capital of the Balkans, have found success on the alt platform with clickbait sites like Resist the Mainstream.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/far-right-social-media-sites-packed-
with-foreign-clickbait/ar-BB19YRKV




T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 7:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump's been planning this reichwing terror attack for weeks.


Got quotes for that?

OF COURSE NOT!


Of course I do, you stupid Russian troll cunt. Unlike you, what I say is fact-based and real. Kill yourself. You are of no value to anyone, you dumb, evil bitch.

‘Be There. Will Be Wild!’: Trump All but Circled the Date
Inside Trump supporters’ online echo chambers, the chaos of Jan. 6 could be seen coming. People posted their plans to come to Washington — and showed the weapons they would carry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/capitol-mob-trump-suppo
rters.html


There you go, you ugly piece of shit. I'm right, yet again, and you're wrong because your whole life is a lie. Kill yourself. Do the world a favor, you worthless Nazi cunt.




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Friday, January 8, 2021 8:20 PM

THG


I think reavers upset. I really do.

T



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Friday, January 8, 2021 8:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Did REAVERBOT see anywhere that Trump was urging people to bring weapons?
No?
There are a lot of meanings to the word "wild"

Wild landscape
wild party
wild woman
wild animal

I interpreted the context as "energizing", not violent.


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Friday, January 8, 2021 8:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did REAVERBOT see anywhere that Trump was urging people to bring weapons?
No?
There are a lot of meanings to the word "wild"

Wild landscape
wild party
wild woman
wild animal

I interpreted the context as "energizing", not violent.


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They fucking brought BOMBS, you stupid, evil Russian troll cunt.

The fascist trumptard terrorists bragged for weeks about all the weapons they'd bring, idiot.



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Saturday, January 9, 2021 12:03 AM

WISHIMAY


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots-arrest-pelosi
-desk/index.html


Washington (CNN)An Alabama man allegedly parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed, according to federal prosecutors.

Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.







I'm thoroughly surprised it's just the ONE truck full of bombs. Or maybe they are only reporting that ONE at this time.

This could have gotten so much worse. Could have been another Vegas.

I gotta give Chump credit for stoking up the stupid in his own party and getting the craziest culled from the gen. pop.

Great plan



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Saturday, January 9, 2021 2:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots-arrest-pelosi
-desk/index.html


Washington (CNN)An Alabama man allegedly parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed, according to federal prosecutors.

Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.




I'm thoroughly surprised it's just the ONE truck full of bombs. Or maybe they are only reporting that ONE at this time.

This could have gotten so much worse. Could have been another Vegas.

I gotta give Chump credit for stoking up the stupid in his own party and getting the craziest culled from the gen. pop.

Great plan



Yes, but was this Trump's fault?

I mean, if you're going to blame Trump for the DC riot (and the few nutbags that attended), then blame Pelosi for all of the riots, arson, looting, and violence before then. In fact, let's blame Pelosi for REAVERBOT.

Goose sauce= gander sauce.

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Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
then blame Pelosi for all of the riots, arson, looting, and violence before then. In fact, let's blame Pelosi for REAVERBOT.




And how could one POSSIBLY make that reach?? She offended them with her ice cream freezer???





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Saturday, January 9, 2021 8:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did REAVERBOT see anywhere that Trump was urging people to bring weapons?
No?
There are a lot of meanings to the word "wild"

Wild landscape
wild party
wild woman
wild animal

I interpreted the context as "energizing", not violent.




Shut up dipshit

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Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:06 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yes, but was this Trump's fault?

I mean, if you're going to blame Trump for the DC riot (and the few nutbags that attended), then blame Pelosi for all of the riots, arson, looting, and violence before then. In fact, let's blame Pelosi for REAVERBOT.

Goose sauce= gander sauce.

Pelosi didn't falsely say that Trump won the election. Trump been beating the drum #StopTheSteal for weeks. Then it all came down to stopping the count of ballots in Congress for the Electoral College. Trump told his people to be there. He told them that V.P. Mike Pence could Stop the Steal. When Pence did not, Trump tweeted this just a minute before the Capitol Building riot started:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
1:24 PM · Jan 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897

Twitter marked that as: This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence

Trump was telling the Capitol Building rioters to do what "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution". Guess what happened next, Signym? It was on TV. The rioters stopped the counting of votes, which Mike Pence had refused to do for Trump.

#StopTheSteal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_United_Sta
tes_presidential_election#Stop_the_Steal


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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