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Critics of Canceling Student Debt Aren’t Afraid It Won’t Work—They’re Afraid It Will
https://fair.org/home/critics-of-cancelling-student-debt-arent-afraid-
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The business media’s fairness argument against forgiving student debts is made in bad faith: Canceling student debt doesn’t negate other policies that would benefit blue-collar workers or the unemployed. Sanders voters who want to forgive student debt also support increased jobless benefits and stimulus payouts across the board, as well as universal healthcare, which would untether medical costs from employment.

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Forgiving student debt is the perfect way to inject life into the economy. As the vaccine is distributed and we need the economy to come back, what better way then to inject 2 trillion dollars into it. That's how much money is tied up in student loans. It also helps lift those burdened with this debt. It used to be getting a mortgage was the major debt people took on. Now education in many cases dwarfs the cost of a mortgage. If we're going to compete globally we need to lesson the cost of higher ed.

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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.

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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.

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Once again comrade kiki displays her two dimensional thinking; black or white. Her response allows for no consideration of the state of the economy today, and how and why it differs from times past. Differs due to the incompetency of her chosen president. I won't waste any more time discussing this with a Russian troll. We need to forgive student loan debt as a way to boost the economy.

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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.

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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.

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You cry like a bitch. Education should be free. No one should have to go into debt for it. We need people with knowledge and skills. It would pay for itself 10 times over.

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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.

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You cry like a bitch. Education should be free. No one should have to go into debt for it. We need people with knowledge and skills. It would pay for itself 10 times over.

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Aside from the fact that not everyone can go to college ... or even get through high school ... or grade school ... college should be free to those who can do the coursework. Maybe one could set up a system where students are charged a reasonable amount of money to be in college, and then repaid on graduation - to prevent people from 'gaming' the system. And we need skilled trades and vocational training as well. That should be free, too. Maybe we could 'pay' for that as a society by having all graduates do a year of public service work. It would be klegitch - donkey work - since you can't build up a skill in that time and get useful work from anyone. But there's plenty of klegitch to go around.

But for those who've already paid their loans, or made sacrifices to keep paying them, it's be like a good, hard boot-kick in the gut. And I have no recommendation to address that. But I can see the potential for damaging blowback.

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Too bad for all those stoopid suckers who worked hard to pay their student loans off. There goes another set of college educated people who won't be voting D any time soon.

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You cry like a bitch. Education should be free. No one should have to go into debt for it. We need people with knowledge and skills. It would pay for itself 10 times over.

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Aside from the fact that not everyone can go to college ... or even get through high school ... or grade school ... college should be free to those who can do the coursework. Maybe one could set up a system where students are charged a reasonable amount of money to be in college, and then repaid on graduation - to prevent people from 'gaming' the system. And we need skilled trades and vocational training as well. That should be free, too. Maybe we could 'pay' for that as a society by having all graduates do a year of public service work. It would be kleggitch - donkey work - since you can't build up a skill in that time and get useful work from anyone. But there's plenty of kleggitch to go around.

But for those who've already paid their loans, or made sacrifices to keep paying them, it'd be like a good, hard boot-kick in the gut. And I have no recommendation to address that. But I can see the potential for damaging blowback.

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After the Deep State Sabotaged His Presidential Bid, Bernie Sanders Mocks Those Who Believe it Exists
Also ridiculing "rigged elections" and "fake news" -- two other weapons used on him -- the Vermont Senator's relationship to the Democratic Party descends from loyal support to abject subservience.


At what would be the peak of Bernie Sanders’ 2020 presidential campaign, the U.S. intelligence community, using anonymous leaks to The Washington Post, dropped a devastating bomb on the Vermont Senator. “U.S. officials have told Sen. Bernie Sanders that Russia is attempting to help his presidential campaign as part of an effort to interfere with the Democratic contest," the paper announced, citing “people familiar with the matter” whom the paper allowed to speak “on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.”

At the time of this perfectly timed leak, Sanders was on a major roll. He had effectively tied Pete Buttigieg for first place in the scandal-plagued Iowa caucus, in which an app developed and sold by Democratic Party operatives made it impossible to reliably count the votes, and then won the first primary in New Hampshire (Joe Biden finished fourth and fifth, respectively, declared all but dead by the punditocracy and Democratic donors).

The leak to The Post was published on February 21 — the day before Nevada was to hold its caucus, as polls showed Sanders with a sizeable lead in that state. The next day, Sanders had a blowout win, defeating Biden by twenty-two points and scoring what The New York Times described as “a major victory in the Nevada caucuses that demonstrated his broad appeal in the first racially diverse state in the presidential primary race and established him as the clear front-runner for the Democratic nomination.”

But that intelligence leak, as designed, plagued him from that point forward, particularly heading into the South Carolina primary that would prove fatal to his presidential bid. At the time, Sanders himself seemed to acknowledge that the leak to The Post — a paper he had long attacked for its open hostility to him — was intended to cripple his candidacy. After exiting his plane on the day before the caucus, he was informed of the intelligence leak by the press on the tarmac, and he responded sarcastically, ridiculing its obvious purpose.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/after-the-deep-state-sabotaged-his

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I could sign up for a a welding course right now, if I wanted to throw $12,000 plus gear and materials at it.

Will I get to do that for free too? Or it's not free unless I have to subject myself to 4 years of "professors" telling me why I'm a terrible person because of my skin color and genitalia?

Yanno.... REAL education?

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I could sign up for a a welding course right now, if I wanted to throw $12,000 plus gear and materials at it.

Will I get to do that for free too? Or it's not free unless I have to subject myself to 4 years of "professors" telling me why I'm a terrible person because of my skin color and genitalia?

Yanno.... REAL education?

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It's abundantly clear that you have no idea what college is like. All you know is what your anti-intellectual cult leaders tell you on reichwing media.

You know less than nothing.

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250 million on strike in India. Police violence in France and Germany.

And this. People are rising up.

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Great cartoon reaver, and oh so true.

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Gravel Institute ran by a couple of trust-fund kids that aren't worried about medical bills.

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Government study shows taxpayers are subsidizing “starvation wages” at McDonald's, Walmart
Sen. Bernie Sanders called the findings "morally obscene"
https://www.salon.com/2020/12/12/government-study-shows-taxpayers-are-
subsidizing-starvation-wages-at-mcdonalds-walmart/

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