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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 5:44 PM

THG


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Come on two why so negative. Trump hasn't even conceded yet. OAC told the NY Times just the other day she isn't sure she wants to continue in politics, yet you have her running for president in 2024. What are you trying to stir up?

You have a very short memory. In case you don't recall, Ted Cruz shutdown the government in attempts to kill Obamacare. In case you don't recall, Trump can run again in 2024. There is no reason to think they can't win.

www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-blasted-by-angry-gop-colleague
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My point is that you're looking at 2024. Nothing of what you speculate about is meaningful, so why bother?

T



I bother because I plan a decade ahead in business. Why not four years ahead in politics?




I prefer to wait a few years to see what unfolds so I can form opinions base on what has been going on. Allot will happen in the next four years and my speculations about it now aren't worth shit. I guess you think yours are. You're entitled to that.

T



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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 9:26 PM

REAVERFAN






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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 9:56 PM

REAVERFAN




What our Secretary of State is doing is known as the crime of sedition. It refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. This empowers all those cowards who moved platforms. Most of us know this but we're far from over.

The final sentence of that full quote he did hedge, ever ever so slightly. But I still found it shocking and way, way way out of line.

"The world should have every confidence that the transition necessary to make sure that the State Department is functional today, successful today and successful with a president who's in office on January 20 a minute after noon, will also be successful," he said.



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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 10:14 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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1KIKI - Interesting that RF's and SECOND's posts track each other in content.
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SECOND - I am not reaverfan. We are both pulling articles from the sources at the left end of the political spectrum.
Sure. You're not RF. That's why you've been posting for YEARS that the problem with the government is due to the voting public being too meek and shortsighted ... in a word, too republican ... and so too unwilling to support real reform. And why you've been agitating against Bernie and Ocasio. Until now. /sarcasm off

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 1:22 AM

JO753

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If anybody still haz illusionz that the Republican party iz just doing wut it thinks iz best for the nation, this article from wun uv their 'think tank/polisy leader' organizationz shoud clear thingz up:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/12-ways-for-trump-to-bomb-the-bat
tlefield-while-biden-claims-the-presidency
/

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 6:40 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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1KIKI - Interesting that RF's and SECOND's posts track each other in content.

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SECOND - I am not reaverfan. We are both pulling articles from the sources at the left end of the political spectrum.
Sure. You're not RF. That's why you've been posting for YEARS that the problem with the government is due to the voting public being too meek and shortsighted ... in a word, too republican ... and so too unwilling to support real reform. And why you've been agitating against Bernie and Ocasio. Until now. /sarcasm off

snicker

After four years of Donald Trump, only a tiny percentage of the American public switched their votes to the Democratic Party

I hate to interrupt with some bad news, but I’m seeing a fair amount of wishful thinking about Joe Biden’s victory that really needs to be corrected before it congeals into lefty conventional wisdom. It’s true that once all the votes are counted, Biden will have a nice popular vote win, and it’s also true that he’ll most likely win over 300 electoral votes.

But in terms of the states everyone was watching this was not a big victory. The key states, as in 2016, were the “blue wall” of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And in those states, Biden’s aggregate winning margin was 1.4 percent of the total vote. In 2016, Trump won by 0.6 percent of the vote. That’s a switch of two percentage points.


No matter how you spin it, that’s just not very much. In a closely divided country, it was enough to give Biden a victory, and in that sense it’s a lot. And Democrats did make gains in a few specific demographics. But in terms of how overall attitudes have changed, it’s only a tiny turnaround. After four years of watching Trump in action; suffering through a pandemic; and not having the hated Hillary Clinton on the ballot, hardly anyone changed their minds. Add to that a tiny increase in the popular vote; no pickups in state legislatures; a loss of half a dozen House seats; worrisome losses among Latinos; and (so far) only a single pickup in the Senate, and it’s just not possible to say that the Democratic Party demonstrated any sort of increased appeal to the broad electorate.

Think about that: After four years of Donald Trump, only a tiny percentage of the American public switched their votes to the Democratic Party.

At the moment, the evidence is too thin to draw any conclusions about why this is. And given the complete uselessness of the exit polls, it might well be months or years before we can really say what happened. One way or another, though, we shouldn’t fool ourselves: there’s no real evidence that the country showed any increased love for either the Democratic Party or the liberal agenda writ large. We need to figure out why that is.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/11/joe-biden-won-but-trump
ism-didnt-lose
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 6:51 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by JO753:
If anybody still haz illusionz that the Republican party iz just doing wut it thinks iz best for the nation, this article from wun uv their 'think tank/polisy leader' organizationz shoud clear thingz up:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/12-ways-for-trump-to-bomb-the-bat
tlefield-while-biden-claims-the-presidency
/

A taste of that article: 6. Fire Fauci

Dr. Anthony Fauci is a double-dealing political hack who has devastated his country insisting it is moral to sacrifice an entire nation to stop a single virus with a survivability rate of 99.95 percent for the working- and school-age population (those younger than 70). Under Trump, he has actively worked against the president’s priority of making sure there is an America left after COVID, providing nonstop ammunition to media hysteria that has hobbled the nation, advanced our foreign enemies, deeply damaged relationships and communities, and darkened our economic future while very possibly increasing the death toll.

Fauci should have been fired months ago. He probably wasn’t because of the upcoming election. Well, now the election is over. Get rid of this petty little dictator.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 7:45 AM

REAVERFAN


Wow. These people are in outer space.



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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 1:05 PM

REAVERFAN


Don’t Let Up: Fascism isn’t Dead Yet
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/11/08/dont-let-up-fascism-isnt-dead-
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Even if Joe Biden had won the U.S. presidency by the expected landslide, the threat of fascism would remain. And not simply because Trumpites are not going away anytime soon.

Donald Trump doesn’t have the intelligence, competence or sufficient ruling-class backing to actually become a fascist dictator. His desire to be one, however, has been more than sufficient to necessitate the widest possible movement against him and the social forces he will continue to represent, and there is no doubt his authoritarian impulses would have become still worse had he won a second term. What little democracy is left in the United States’ capitalist formal democracy would have been further reduced.

It might be better to understand Trump as the Republican Party’s frankenstein — the culmination of the Republican “Southern Strategy.” Richard Nixon was an open racist who developed the strategy of sending dog whistles to White racists; Ronald Reagan promoted “states’ rights,” well understood code words for supporting racially biased policies; George H.W. Bush exploited racial stereotypes with his Willie Horton campaign ads; George W. Bush’s presidency will be remembered for his callous ignoring of New Orleans and its African-American population in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina; and the roster of Republicans hostile to civil rights is too long to list. Moreover, the Republican Party, with very few exceptions, has been an eager promoter and enabler of Trump’s virulent pro-big business policies with most not even bothering to pretend to challenge Trump’s racism and misogyny.

It was no surprise that a billionaire con man whose business plan has long been to screw his real estate empire’s working-class contractors and use every trick imaginable to not pay taxes or his creditors was going to stick it to working people.

The Trump administration has been the worst U.S. presidency in history with an extraordinarily fierce approach to class warfare. But let us consider what fascism is: At its most basic level, fascism is a dictatorship established through and maintained with terror on behalf of big business. It has a social base, which provides the support and the terror squads, but which is badly misled since the fascist dictatorship operates decisively against the interest of its social base. Militarism, extreme nationalism, the creation of enemies and scapegoats, and, perhaps the most critical component, a rabid propaganda that intentionally raises panic and hate while disguising its true nature and intentions under the cover of a phony populism, are among the necessary elements.

Despite varying national characteristics that result in major differences in the appearances of fascism, the class nature is consistent. Big business is invariably the supporter of fascism, no matter what a fascist movement’s rhetoric contains, and is invariably the beneficiary. We often think of fascism in the classical 1930s form, of Nazis goose-stepping or the street violence of Benito Mussolini’s followers. But it took somewhat different forms later in the 20th century, being instituted through military dictatorships in Chile and Argentina. Any fascism that might arise in the U.S. would be wrapped in right-wing populism and, given the particular social constructs there, that populism would include demands to “return to the Constitution” and “secure the borders.”



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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 1:15 PM

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 2:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 2:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Sullivan Wins Alaska Reelection, Bringing Republicans To 50 Senators

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Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:59 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump was ineffective and easily beaten. A future strongman won’t be.

At the moment, the Democratic Party risks celebrating Trump’s loss and moving on—an acute danger, especially because many of its constituencies, the ones that drove Trump’s loss, are understandably tired. A political nap for a few years probably looks appealing to many who opposed Trump, but the real message of this election is not that Trump lost and Democrats triumphed. It’s that a weak and untalented politician lost, while the rest of his party has completely entrenched its power over every other branch of government: the perfect setup for a talented right-wing populist to sweep into office in 2024. And make no mistake: They’re all thinking about it.

It won’t be easy to make the next Trumpist a one-term president. He will not be so clumsy or vulnerable. He will get into office less by luck than by skill.
Perhaps it will be Senator Josh Hawley, who is writing a book against Big Tech because he knows that will be the next chapter in the culture wars, with social-media companies joining “fake news” as the enemy. Perhaps it will be Senator Tom Cotton, running as a law-and-order leader with a populist bent. Maybe it will be another media figure: Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan, both men with talent and followings.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111052005/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2020/11/trump-proved-authoritarians-can-get-elected-america/617023
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It might seem strange to note that the US was lucky to get Trump, but it was, in this respect: while he is power-mad and entirely lacking in conscience and empathy, he is also impetuous and incompetent, and failed to follow a clear program. In other words, he was a hopeless wannabe dictator. He was also unfortunate: were it not for the pandemic, he might have won again. But he has blazed a trail for someone more effective: someone with Trump’s absence of moral constraint, but with a determined program and a cold, strategic mind. If Biden fails to break the political consensus, in 2024 he could open the door to a competent autocrat.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111130322/https://www.theguardian.com
/commentisfree/2020/nov/11/us-trump-biden-president-elect


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:12 AM

REAVERFAN


I don’t feel sorry for my Trump-voting neighbors
Forgive me if I don’t jump to embrace the people who wanted to ‘make liberals cry again’ and ended up disappointed
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-voters-disappointed-liberal
s-democrats-sympathy-b1721498.html?utm_source=reddit.com


I was taught not to be a sore winner, but this election feels like an exception.

As I drive past what remains of the Trump front yard shrines throughout my southeastern Wisconsin community, I feel no compassion for my neighbors. They use political ideology and religion as an excuse to express unwavering support for a man who has unequivocally done more harm than good during the past four years. They voted for him despite whatever moral objections they may have had regarding his egregious behavior because conservative power and control are more important to them than American lives.

If this isn’t true, why else would they support someone who routinely demeans, degrades, and dehumanizes the most marginalized among us, discounting the lives of people of color, mocking people with disabilities, and bragging about sexual assault? Why else would they attempt to re-elect a president with no regard for the rule of law, the brave service and sacrifice of our most beloved military veterans, and the critical importance of a peaceful and cooperative transfer of democratic power?

Since Biden won the election, there have been repeated calls for “compassion” toward downcast Trump voters. Democrats should hold off from “boasting”, they say, and instead extend a hand of friendship to the people who laughed and cheered as Donald Trump Jr told them on a rally stage to “make liberals cry again”. But there have been psychological studies on what motivated people to vote for Trump, and they are well worth reading.
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It's hard to feel bad for people who are actively evil and stupid.



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Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:14 AM

REAVERFAN


Really looking forward to this. I hope he gets the death penalty for treason. I'd pay to see him fry. Put it on PPV and give all the proceeds to immigrant kids.





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Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:04 AM

REAVERFAN


More 'Dictatorship Than a Democracy': Trump Purge at Pentagon Increases Fears of Coup-in-Motion
"The purge happening at the Department of Defense, in the middle of a messy transition, should worry us all."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/11/11/more-dictatorship-democra
cy-trump-purge-pentagon-increases-fears-coup-motion


Fears that a possible slow-motion coup is in progress in the United States continued to grow on Wednesday, as observers sounded the alarm over President Donald Trump's decision to install "extreme Republican partisans" at the Pentagon after his firing of Defense Secretary Mark Esper resulted in resignations by numerous top officials at the department earlier this week.

The stacking of the Pentagon with Trump loyalists—combined with the president's ongoing refusal to accept his electoral defeat and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's Tuesday comment that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration"—has heightened concerns about the Republican Party's authoritarianism and left experts and lawmakers warning that the country is in the midst of an extremely dangerous moment.

The Guardian reported that defense experts believe "there was little the new Trump appointees could do to use their positions to the president's advantage" given that high-ranking military leaders, including General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have vowed to keep the armed forces out of the political process.

Nevertheless, others view this week's personnel changes, which amount to the appointment of pro-Trump officials to key national security roles during the interregnum, as more evidence that Trump intends to use what one current defense official called "dictator moves" to cling to power despite receiving more than five million fewer votes than President-elect Joe Biden, who—based on current results reported by the Associated Press and other outlets—won the Electoral College by a margin of 290 to 217.

Appearing on CNN Tuesday night, William Cohen, former Secretary of Defense and Republican senator, told network host Don Lemon the president's conduct is "more akin to a dictatorship than a democracy."

"It is hard to overstate just how dangerous high-level turnover at the Department of Defense is during a period of presidential transition," wrote Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, on Tuesday.

The development, he said, "should alarm all Americans."

"If this is the beginning of a trend—the president either firing or forcing out national security professionals in order to replace them with people perceived as more loyal to him—then the next 70 days will be precarious at best and downright dangerous at worst," Smith added.



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Thursday, November 12, 2020 12:22 PM

REAVERFAN


“Centrism” is an extreme ideology that sedates the public with platitudes while it hands more power to Wall Street, corporations & the ruling class—and paves the way for neofascism. It is not even the center as majority of public supports leftist policies.
https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1326556893632843778



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Friday, November 13, 2020 6:20 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


You Blew It, Cal Cunningham, wannabe Senator from North Carolina

Why on earth would someone risk an extramarital affair while running for a Senate seat that could determine the country’s future?

Cunningham had “run on a campaign of trust and honor,” but “he’s not been truthful to his family and to his voters and he’s not been honorable to the very uniform that he wears.”

The editorial boards of two local North Carolina newspapers agreed. A joint editorial from the Charlotte Observer and the Raleigh News & Observer stated that the papers had intended to endorse Cunningham before his affair was made public. “His lack of judgment during a race that could swing the balance of power in Washington, as well as his selfishness in taking this risk, should deeply trouble North Carolinians,” the editorial read. “We’re especially concerned about Cunningham’s response to the revelations, which may offer a glimpse into the kind of senator he’d be. … In these past two weeks, he’s avoided questions about his behavior—whether it’s part of a pattern, how it conflicts with his military obligations, and if it involved any campaign funds. That’s not accountability. It’s political strategy.”

Here is the real problem: When Cunningham took on the mantle of the Democratic nomination for the North Carolina Senate seat, he wasn’t just applying for a job. He held the entire Democratic political agenda in his hands. The Senate was up for grabs, and the North Carolina race looked like one of the party’s best shots at unseating a Republican. Trump and Senate Republicans were remaking the federal courts as partisan agents of the far right. GOP officials were deliberately facilitating the spread of a deadly pandemic. The West was burning. Arctic sea ice was failing to freeze in October for the first time on record. When it could not have been clearer how critical it was to the country and the planet’s future that Democrats take the Senate, Cunningham opted to risk another term of GOP Senate control so that he could have a little kissy-time with a woman who wasn’t his wife. In the age of rapidly accelerating climate change and its attendant famines, natural disasters, and refugee crises, it is not an exaggeration to say that Cunningham jeopardized the well-being of every person on Earth for his own fleeting moment of personal satisfaction.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201113015546/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/11/cal-cunningham-let-the-democratic-party-and-america-down.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 13, 2020 6:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Supreme Court Justice Delivers Grievance-Laden, Ultra-Partisan Speech to the Federalist Society

On Thursday night, Justice Sam Alito delivered the keynote address at this year’s Federalist Society National Lawyers Convention. The Federalist Society, a well-funded network of conservative attorneys, has come under unusual scrutiny after Donald Trump elevated scores of its members to the federal judiciary. Its leaders insist that it is a mere debate club, a nonpartisan forum for the exchange of legal ideas. But Alito abandoned any pretense of impartiality in his speech, a grievance-laden tirade against Democrats, the progressive movement, and the United States’ response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ironically, Alito began his address by condemning an effort by the U.S. Judicial Conference, seeking impartiality and non-partisan judges, to forbid sitting federal judges from being members of the Federalist Society.

Alito would not be abiding by the usual ethics rules, which require judges to remain impartial and avoid any appearance of bias.

Although the justice accused several Democrats senators of being unprofessional, he himself defied the basic principles of judicial conduct.

Alito took aim at five senators who filed an amicus brief in a Second Amendment case last year. The senators’ brief warned the justices that the court was becoming dangerously political. Yet Alito’s speech proved the senators’ point. At least one justice is clearly a bitter partisan out to settle scores with the left and flouting his ethical obligations.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20201113112504/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/11/alito-federalist-society-speech-insane.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 13, 2020 6:35 AM

THG


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Originally posted by reaverfan:

“Centrism” is an extreme ideology that sedates the public with platitudes while it hands more power to Wall Street, corporations & the ruling class—and paves the way for neofascism. It is not even the center as majority of public supports leftist policies.
https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1326556893632843778





Socialism is a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control. I.E., the government controls everything, the people own and control nothing is the bottom line. The government winds up with strong men running it and the economy collapses due to mismanagement and corruption.

Capitalism promotes free market conditions which creates the best economy, but centralizes resources to much so a few end up with it all. Centrists see the problem with both and work to create a more fair distribution of resources while protecting America's republic. We are the keepers of the gate.

The far left and right are the problem.

T



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Friday, November 13, 2020 8:16 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

“Centrism” is an extreme ideology that sedates the public with platitudes while it hands more power to Wall Street, corporations & the ruling class—and paves the way for neofascism. It is not even the center as majority of public supports leftist policies.
https://twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1326556893632843778





Socialism is a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control. I.E., the government controls everything, the people own and control nothing is the bottom line. The government winds up with strong men running it and the economy collapses due to mismanagement and corruption.

Capitalism promotes free market conditions which creates the best economy, but centralizes resources to much so a few end up with it all. Centrists see the problem with both and work to create a more fair distribution of resources while protecting America's republic. We are the keepers of the gate.

The far left and right are the problem.

T



You just aren't very knowledgeable on these issues, at all. You keep spewing far right code, and probably don't know why.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 8:55 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Socialism is a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control. I.E., the government controls everything, the people own and control nothing is the bottom line. The government winds up with strong men running it and the economy collapses due to mismanagement and corruption.

Capitalism promotes free market conditions which creates the best economy, but centralizes resources to much so a few end up with it all. Centrists see the problem with both and work to create a more fair distribution of resources while protecting America's republic. We are the keepers of the gate.

The far left and right are the problem.

You sound like the recently elected Republican Senator from Alabama:

Former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, Elected Alabama Senator, thinks WWII was fought over socialism. It wasn’t.

Tuberville is very concerned because Joe Biden is a socialist. “Coach” then goes on to misunderstand the origins of World War II—[cough] [cough] Nazism—saying that it was, you guessed it, about ridding the world of socialism, kinda like Joe Biden.

“It’s concerning to me that a guy can run for president of the United States and have an opportunity to win when he leans more to a Socialist type of government … And that’s concerning to me that we’re to the point now where we’ve got almost half the country voting for something that this country wasn’t built on. Very concerning and, you know, as I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of Socialism. Today, you look at this election, we have half this country that made some kind of movement, now they might not believe in it 100 percent, but they made some kind of movement toward socialism. So we’re fighting it right here on our own soil. We’ve got to decide, you know, over the years which direction we’re going, and that part’s concerning to me.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20201113134837/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/11/alabama-senator-tommy-tuberville-blockhead-interview-wwii-socialism-american-government.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 13, 2020 9:19 AM

REAVERFAN


I just want Democrats who actually act like Democrats. They're few and far between.



Joe is more Republican than most Republicans.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 9:37 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
I just want Democrats who actually act like Democrats. They're few and far between.

Joe is more Republican than most Republicans.

If Joe Manchin wants to be Senator from West Virginia, he had to say those things, but he doesn't have to do/believe those things. The huge problem with politicians keeping hidden their true purpose from voters with a smoke screen made of combustible words is that the politician might not have anything that looks like actual purposes other than being reelected. They might well be full of only hot air and smoke in their brain. This would explain why the typical politician spends the work week stupidly and unproductively. A few Senators want to do something once elected, but most want only to be a Senator. When one of those directionless Senators has a meeting with a skilled lobbyist working for a very purposeful Capitalist, the lobbyist will pour ideas into the empty head of the Senator.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 13, 2020 10:09 AM

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Two top Homeland Security officials forced to resign by White House
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/12/politics/dhs-officials-forced-resig
n-white-house/index.html


The resignations come in the wake of sweeping changes atop the Defense Department's civilian leadership structure which has seen several of the Pentagon's most senior civilian officials replaced with perceived loyalists to the President. The changes started with Trump firing Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Monday and senior Pentagon officials have told CNN they are alarmed and concerned about what might happen next.
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Can't have a coup without loyalists in the right places.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 10:34 AM

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Two top Homeland Security officials forced to resign by White House
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/12/politics/dhs-officials-forced-resig
n-white-house/index.html


The resignations come in the wake of sweeping changes atop the Defense Department's civilian leadership structure which has seen several of the Pentagon's most senior civilian officials replaced with perceived loyalists to the President. The changes started with Trump firing Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Monday and senior Pentagon officials have told CNN they are alarmed and concerned about what might happen next.
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Can't have a coup without loyalists in the right places.

If Trump does not pull the trigger on a coup d'état, he has only made government more dysfunctional than before. Why can't that fat dumb fucker shut the hell up and let his Senate approved political appointees operate a caretaker government for the next 68 days?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 13, 2020 10:59 AM

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The courts are going to rake Trump over the coals when he leaves office. That's what all this delay is all about. That and he is trying to figure out how to get a pardon.

T



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Friday, November 13, 2020 1:06 PM

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Hilariously Out of Touch Democrats Blame Leftists for THEIR Failures


Conservative Dems who lost blame progressive Dems who won.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 1:17 PM

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The courts are going to rake Trump over the coals when he leaves office. That's what all this delay is all about. That and he is trying to figure out how to get a pardon.

Trump will stay free until he dies while following the path of his lawyer, Roy Cohn: At death, the IRS seized almost everything Cohn had. One of the things that the IRS did not seize was a pair of diamond cuff links, given to him by client and friend, Donald Trump. The diamond cuff links were later declared to be fake by an appraiser. According to Roger Stone, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that." That would be Trump's goal. I expect him to succeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn#Death

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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:53 PM

THG


T



THE EXORCIST





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Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:34 AM

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Republican politicians are playing with fire. And we all risk getting burned

History shows: “When politicians break democracy, they are wrong to think they control what comes next.”

You’d think the modern Republican party would have learned this lesson. After Obama’s election, the neo-conservatives sold their souls for tax cuts. They welcomed birthers and bigots into their big white tent. They expected Paul Ryan would take the Republican mantle. Instead they got Trump. Even the most repugnant Republican politicians hated him. After Trump denigrated Ted Cruz’s wife, the brave senator shot back, calling Trump a “sniveling coward” and vowing that he would not “go like a servile puppy dog” and support then-candidate Trump.

Fast forward to this week: Cruz rushed to the president’s defense after Don Jr publicly shamed “2024 GOP hopefuls” for failing to lick his father’s boots. Ask Ted whether he’s steering the party, or whether the party is steering him.

If Republican politicians are telling themselves that “this time it will be different,” that they now know how to harness the explosive cocktail of economic displacement and racial anxiety, they’re flat-out wrong.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/14/republicans-elec
tion-donald-trump-fire


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Saturday, November 14, 2020 11:47 AM

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rezident owtsidr


Turning over a rock to expoze a propaganda creator: https://theintercept.com/2020/11/11/hunter-biden-china-dossier/?utm_me
dium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter


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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real solution: https://fundrazr.com/71jIY1?ref=ab_f9ZUS0

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Sunday, November 15, 2020 8:29 AM

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T




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Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I ca hardly wait to see Biden fulfill his destiny as fixer of all that is wrong.



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:59 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I ca hardly wait to see Biden fulfill his destiny as fixer of all that is wrong.




Me too comrade, me to.

T



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Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:32 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I ca hardly wait to see Biden fulfill his destiny as fixer of all that is wrong.




Me too comrade, me to.

T


We already know that the Republicans will stand in the way of all of it. They LIKE it broken, because their masters want to suck up all the money in the country.



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Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I ca hardly wait to see Biden fulfill his destiny as fixer of all that is wrong.




Me too comrade, me to.

T


We already know that the Republicans will stand in the way of all of it. They LIKE it broken, because their masters want to suck up all the money in the country.





Joe Biden is GWB.

The sooner you figure that out the better off you'll be.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 16, 2020 4:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I ca hardly wait to see Biden fulfill his destiny as fixer of all that is wrong.



And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

The Key to Trump’s Appeal

This 8-minute podcast by Sam Harris gives perhaps the sharpest solution ever articulated to the mystery of how tens of millions of Americans could enthusiastically support an obvious fraud, liar, incompetent, and threat to civilization. Briefly, it’s not despite his immense failings but because of them—because by flaunting his failings he absolves his supporters for their own, even while the other side serves those same supporters relentless moral condemnation and scorn. I think I had known this—I even said something similar as the tagline of this blog (“The Far Right is destroying the world, and the Far Left thinks it’s my fault!”). But Sam Harris expresses it as only he can. If this analysis is right—and I feel virtually certain it is—then it bodes well that Biden, unlike Hillary Clinton, isn’t seen as especially sanctimonious or judgmental. Biden’s own gaffes and failings probably help him.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/224-key-trumps-appeal/

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Monday, November 16, 2020 5:01 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Then that makes Biden* the perfect front-man for a host of job-torpedoing free trade agreements, China-servility, more war, climate change inaction (and not only that, he'll shrivel and disappear on the topic like an over-inflated leaky balloon) ... and more!

And when Biden* fails to fix anything, I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Monday, November 16, 2020 10:23 AM

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Georgia’s Senate Runoff Will Determine Whether the Minimum Wage Increases

Republican Sen. David Perdue, the former CEO of Dollar General, has said that raising wages kills jobs.

Sen. David Perdue claims in his official biography that during his time as CEO of Dollar General from 2003 to 2007, “he created thousands of quality jobs and helped working families make it from payday to payday.”

During that time, Dollar General opened up over 100 new stores in Georgia, bringing the total to 464 in the state. While Perdue earned over $50 million in total compensation from the company, the employees holding those allegedly quality jobs launched multiple lawsuits claiming that Perdue’s generous executive compensation was the product of wage theft and systemic exploitation.

Under Perdue’s leadership, no less than four class-action lawsuits — eventually combined into one — were filed against the company for wage theft, alleging systematic misclassification of managers to deny them overtime pay. The company’s business model relied on exploiting a loophole in overtime rules. If an employee could be classified as a “manager,” then the company could push them to work 60 or 80 hours a week but pay them no overtime or extra salary.

The company’s annual reports during the time Perdue ran it emphasized that Dollar General pursued “lean staffing of usually two to three employees in the store at any time” and stressed that “changes in minimum wage laws” could undermine the company’s bottom line. The company also warned that profits would be hit if “a significant portion of our employee base unionizes, or attempts to unionize.”

More about Republican Senators cheating employees out of their wages at
https://theintercept.com/2020/11/16/david-perdue-dollar-general-minimu
m-wage
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:15 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I ca hardly wait to see Biden fulfill his destiny as fixer of all that is wrong.




Me too comrade, me to.

T


We already know that the Republicans will stand in the way of all of it. They LIKE it broken, because their masters want to suck up all the money in the country.



Hey dipshit reaver. You're posting in pink because you're fucking with my signature. In other words you're doing it on purpose. If you can't stand by your posts then stop posting instead of making it look as though I posted it. I'm not a socialist far left conspiracy nut. If you really believe what you say then own it.



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Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:09 AM

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Yes, 55 Percent of White Women Voted for Trump. No, I’m Not Surprised.

Maya Angelou once said, “When people show you who they are, believe them.” Her lesson stemmed from the notion that people know themselves better than any other individual ever could. When people express beliefs or exhibit behaviors that relate to their own commitments and ethics, we should take them seriously. It’s time to take this voting for Republicans as an indication of a widespread political orientation among white women, rather than as a shocking aberration for one election only.

Political scientist Jane Junn explains that, “The elephant in the room is white and female, and she has been standing there since 1952. This result has been hiding in plain sight, obscured by a normative bias that women are more Democratic than men.”

White women have only voted in plurality for a Democratic presidential candidate twice since 1952: once in 1964 for Lyndon B. Johnson and in 1996 for Bill Clinton.

https://truthout.org/articles/yes-55-percent-of-white-women-voted-for-
trump-no-im-not-surprised
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/2020-house-races-majority/
index.html


... the last few days have been filled with close House races (finally) being projected. And those projections reveal just how poorly House Democrats did.
With just a handful of races still uncalled at this point, Republicans have gained nine seats -- having won 12 Democratic-held districts and lost just three of their own.


And there's a handful of close races still to count.

And yet Biden* 'won' despite all the republican down ballot votes.


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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:



Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/2020-house-races-majority/
index.html


... the last few days have been filled with close House races (finally) being projected. And those projections reveal just how poorly House Democrats did.
With just a handful of races still uncalled at this point, Republicans have gained nine seats -- having won 12 Democratic-held districts and lost just three of their own.


And there's a handful of close races still to count.

And yet Biden* 'won' despite all the republican down ballot votes.


Proving, once again, that the election was legit.



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Covid, Climate and the Power of Denial

Why the 2020 Election makes it hard to be optimistic about the future. If we can’t face up to a pandemic, how can we avoid a climate change apocalypse?

Trump paid less of a penalty than expected for his deadly failure to deal with Covid-19, and few down-ballot Republicans seem to have paid any penalty at all. As a headline put it, “With pandemic raging, Republicans say election results validate their approach.”

And their approach, in case you missed it, has been denial and a refusal to take even the most basic, low-cost precautions — like requiring that people wear masks in public.

The epidemiological consequences of this cynical irresponsibility will be ghastly. I’m not sure how many people realize just how terrible this winter is going to be. Now on to a bigger problem -- climate change.

Right-wingers always claim that taking climate seriously would doom the economy, but the truth is that at this point the economics of climate action look remarkably benign. Spectacular progress in renewable energy technology makes it fairly easy to see how the economy can wean itself from fossil fuels. A recent analysis by the International Monetary Fund suggests that a “green infrastructure push” would, if anything, lead to faster economic growth over the next few decades.

But climate action remains very difficult politically given (a) the power of special interests and (b) the indirect link between costs and benefits. Consider, for example, the problem posed by methane leaks from fracking wells. Better enforcement to limit these leaks would have huge benefits — but the benefits would be widely distributed across time and space. How do you get people in West Texas to accept even a small rise in costs now when the payoff includes, say, a reduced probability of destructive hurricanes a decade from now in Florida?

This indirectness made many of us pessimistic about the prospects for climate action. But Covid-19 suggests that we weren’t pessimistic enough. After all, the consequences of irresponsible behavior during a pandemic are vastly more obvious and immediate than the costs of climate inaction.

Furthermore, it’s a lot easier to discredit Covid deniers than it is to discredit climate-change deniers: All you have to do is point out the many, many times these deniers falsely asserted that the disease was about to go away.

So getting people to act responsibly on the coronavirus should be much easier than getting action on climate change. Yet what we see instead is widespread refusal to acknowledge the risks, accusations that cheap, common-sense rules like wearing masks constitute “tyranny,” and violent threats against public officials.

So what do you think will happen when the Biden administration tries to make climate a priority?

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/opinion/coronavirus-climate.html

The truth is that every country that has made significant cuts in GHGs has had its economy grow, and grow strongly. Switzerland, for example, is the most intensively industrialized country on earth, yet it produces roughly 3 times as much GDP per ton of GHGs as the US, and has 30% higher per capita GDP - and, btw, its public services work the way they are supposed to work. Fighting Climate Change create jobs, reduces negative externalities, creates wealth and makes us all richer, not poorer. What is killing jobs and harming the economy is failing to do anything about Climate Change.

https://ourworldindata.org/co2/country/switzerland?country=CHE~USA

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:



Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/2020-house-races-majority/
index.html


... the last few days have been filled with close House races (finally) being projected. And those projections reveal just how poorly House Democrats did.
With just a handful of races still uncalled at this point, Republicans have gained nine seats -- having won 12 Democratic-held districts and lost just three of their own.


And there's a handful of close races still to count.

And yet Biden* 'won' despite all the republican down ballot votes.


Proving, once again, that the election was legit.






She's referring to the countless forged ballots that voted only for Biden and no choices were made down ballot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Here’s a little story. I had lunch a few days ago with a Republican friend. Not a tea party crank, just a normal, moderate Republican. We were talking about Donald Trump and he said, Well, at least you have to give him credit for Warp Speed. No Democrat would ever have done that.

I just looked at him. I barely knew what to say. Why wouldn’t a Democrat have done it?

Oh come on.

But Warp Speed was mainly about spending money. Democrats love to spend money. You’re always complaining about it.

Hmmm.

Any president would have done it.

This is an example of how we inhabit different sets of realities. Aside from the admittedly catchy name, which I give Trump credit for, Warp Speed was a program that Bill Gates and others had been talking about for months. Warp Speed was funded by the CARES Act, which passed with unanimous Democratic support. Of course a Democratic president would have pushed for something like Warp Speed.

So what had convinced my friend that a Democrat never would have come up with something like that? It’s a mystery.

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