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Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:04 AM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: ] Trump just passed illegally a payroll tax cut. He is pretending to be a hero for the working class. The stupid people don't know this is an end run at cutting social security and Medicare. What pays for social security? The payroll taxes. What pays for Medicare? The payroll taxes. He even said if reelected he would make the cuts permanent. Wake up Trumpers. He's fucking with your futures. T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:39 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by second: How inequality is changing the Republican Party — and breaking American politics Historically, conservative political parties face the problem Harvard political scientist Daniel Ziblatt calls “the conservative dilemma.” How does a party that represents the interests of moneyed elites win elections in a democracy?
Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:14 PM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:16 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by second: How inequality is changing the Republican Party — and breaking American politics Historically, conservative political parties face the problem Harvard political scientist Daniel Ziblatt calls “the conservative dilemma.” How does a party that represents the interests of moneyed elites win elections in a democracy? How? By democrats 'forgetting' to represent the working class - as I indicated in my Matt Taibbi post. By democrats stopping being a real economic alternative for Americans, while republicans became a real social-issues one. That's how. And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Sunday, August 9, 2020 2:16 PM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 3:03 PM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 3:40 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Republicans have been hammering on what were then called "cultural wedge issues" since I was in college DECADES ago. What wasn't really evident until the Obama honeymoon was over was how deeply democrats had abandoned the working class. (Which I was harping on back before 2016.) But what pushed Trump over a full slate of republican candidate hopefuls and past Hillary was that he was willing to address things both democrats AND republicans were too beholden to mention: Manufacturing. Low-wage illegal immigrants. China. NAFTA~CAFTA~SHAFTA. NATO. big Pharma. Military contracting. Trump won the political culture war AND the political economic one AND the political policy one. And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Sunday, August 9, 2020 7:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: We wouldn't even need a wall if we just cut off any and all forms of financial aid and the ability for anybody without a social security number to make money here. Wouldn't need ICE either. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:03 PM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:26 PM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:57 PM
Quote:Here is a cultural divide for you: While 81 percent of Democrats said they’d get vaccinated if a free, FDA-approved Covid-19 vaccine were available, only 47 percent of Republicans said the same. Independents are in the middle with 59 percent saying they would accept the vaccine. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/one-in-three-americans-decline-free-covid-coronavirus-vaccine.html You can find the same divide with displaying Confederate flags, statues to General Lee, BLM, abortion, evolution, climate change, etc. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, August 10, 2020 9:03 AM
Monday, August 10, 2020 11:33 AM
Monday, August 10, 2020 1:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan:
Monday, August 10, 2020 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. Trump's COVID-19 executive actions spark confusion, raise legal and constitutional questions
Monday, August 10, 2020 7:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Here is a cultural divide for you: While 81 percent of Democrats said they’d get vaccinated if a free, FDA-approved Covid-19 vaccine were available, only 47 percent of Republicans said the same. Independents are in the middle with 59 percent saying they would accept the vaccine. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/one-in-three-americans-decline-free-covid-coronavirus-vaccine.html You can find the same divide with displaying Confederate flags, statues to General Lee, BLM, abortion, evolution, climate change, etc. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, August 10, 2020 8:19 PM
Monday, August 10, 2020 8:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: But what does that have to do with why DEMOCRATS have lost support in counties, states, and Congress over the decades? https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:57 AM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:48 AM
Quote:What your data shows is that some Republicans have decided to call themselves "Independents", but I suspect the newest "Independents" keep voting for Republicans.
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:58 AM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:49 AM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 12:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Thank your Legacy Media for that, Marcos. They need to go. And you can go right along with them. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:57 PM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Thank your Legacy Media for that, Marcos. They need to go. And you can go right along with them. Do Right, Be Right. :) T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. David Mitchell's Hilarious Rant On The Flat Earth Society
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:42 PM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:20 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Kamala Harris is Joe Biden’s pick for vice president. Great. Really. Great. Identity politics and Deep-State-compliant all rolled into one.
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:What your data shows is that some Republicans have decided to call themselves "Independents", but I suspect the newest "Independents" keep voting for Republicans. Uh ... you DO know that nobody here is blind and we can all see the same graph - right? And that no matter how much you blatantly lie about what we all can see, it doesn't actually change what we all can see - right? So, let me just state the obvious. Between Kennedy and Obama, republican party affiliation wandered between 21-32%, hitting a low at Ford and Carter, and a high at Reagan through Bush the Deux, but staying within a narrow range of 25 +/-5. But democrats dropped from a high at Kennedy of 51 to a low at Reagan of 34, then dropping further to 31 during Bush the Elder, from which they never recovered by 2014. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/ So what does your post have to do with the fact that DEMOCRATS have lost 40% of their support in counties, states, and Congress over the decades?
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Kamala Harris is Joe Biden’s pick for vice president. Great. Really. Great. Identity politics and Deep-State-compliant all rolled into one. Of course! That was the point! female- check! black- check! deep state compliant- check! It was either her or Susan Rice, but Susan Rice might get tangled up in Russiagate, seeing as she was at that meeting with Obama, Biden, Comey and others talking about how to "get" Trump (as far as anyone can tell). Blacks are racist. They'll vote for a black person, no matter how much that person might be against their interests. Remember Clarence Thomas? Not that blacks could vote for Justice Thomas, but in the opinion polls at the time they supported his confirmation despite the fact that he was against affirmative action and that he was a sexual harasser. ***** One thing I heard discussed was that with mail-in voting, many people will be able to vote before the debates, making Biden's debate performance irrelevant. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:24 PM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: One thing I heard discussed was that with mail-in voting, many people will be able to vote before the debates, making Biden's debate performance irrelevant.
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: One thing I heard discussed was that with mail-in voting, many people will be able to vote before the debates, making Biden's debate performance irrelevant. Nah... A majority of the people who are too lazy (or don't care enough) to go to the booth to vote are going to be too lazy (or not care enough) to ever get around to filling one of them out. Of those that do, nobody is going to be doing it the day, week or month they get it mailed to them, and it will sit under a pile of junk mail. The debates might be one of the things that remind them that they even got it. The only people who are going to be rushing to mail out their ballots early are people who are already 1000% in support of Not-Trump. They weren't going to be swayed to vote the other way no matter how bad the debates go for Biden or even be so demoralized that they wouldn't have done so. I don't imagine the mail in ballot is going to have the effect the Democrats are hoping it will. All it's going to do is add to the confusion and we might not know for a long time who actually won unless Trump wins by a landslide like I predicted long ago and still predict today. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:18 PM
Quote:Or maybe those "Independent" voters are really dizzy, dithering nincompoops who actually vote for Democrats and Republicans.
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: One thing I heard discussed was that with mail-in voting, many people will be able to vote before the debates, making Biden's debate performance irrelevant. Nah... A majority of the people who are too lazy (or don't care enough) to go to the booth to vote are going to be too lazy (or not care enough) to ever get around to filling one of them out. Of those that do, nobody is going to be doing it the day, week or month they get it mailed to them, and it will sit under a pile of junk mail. The debates might be one of the things that remind them that they even got it. The only people who are going to be rushing to mail out their ballots early are people who are already 1000% in support of Not-Trump. They weren't going to be swayed to vote the other way no matter how bad the debates go for Biden or even be so demoralized that they wouldn't have done so. I don't imagine the mail in ballot is going to have the effect the Democrats are hoping it will. All it's going to do is add to the confusion and we might not know for a long time who actually won unless Trump wins by a landslide like I predicted long ago and still predict today. Do Right, Be Right. :)The last debates I watched were Nixon vs JFK, but I'll be cheering for Trump because I've got a lot of money depending on Trump winning. On the other hand, I'm not gonna vote for him because he is a fat dumb motherfucker who poor white trash find appealing.
Wednesday, August 12, 2020 6:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Or maybe those "Independent" voters are really dizzy, dithering nincompoops who actually vote for Democrats and Republicans. Or maybe that 20% of ex-democrats are not voting for democrats - which is a problem for democrats, and why they lost state legislatures and governorships, as well as the US Senate and the House (only recently retaken).
Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:15 AM
Thursday, August 13, 2020 6:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: And while you call everyone else stupid, you can't see what the most dimwitted have figured out - democrats are NOT an alternative to republicans. And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:01 AM
Friday, August 14, 2020 6:18 AM
Friday, August 14, 2020 6:45 AM
Friday, August 14, 2020 9:37 AM
Saturday, August 15, 2020 7:38 AM
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Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:38 PM
Saturday, August 15, 2020 3:52 PM
Saturday, August 15, 2020 9:44 PM
Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol Some NBA games getting under a million views. Who knew that getting woke leads to going broke? Oh... wait. Seriously. Fuck the NBA. Do Right, Be Right. :)
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