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Who Is Running In 2020?

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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Now I can see posts on this new page.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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A presidential rival, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, challenged Buttigieg on Thursday night to release the names of his McKinsey clients...


Because, of course she did.

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, telling reporters, “I think voters want to know about possible conflicts of interest.”


And so the twitter mob can dox and harass them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I wonder if this will get any airplay?



Biden Blames Staff For Not Flagging Burisma Concerns; Says We Should Just Trust Hunter And Not Investigate

Joe Biden has thrown his former staff under the bus for not informing him of the multiple ( https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/burisma-consultant-contacted-st
ate-department-over-hunter-biden-concerns-emails-93981
) red flags raised ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/diplomat-tells-investigators-h
e-raised-alarms-in-2015-about-hunter-bidens-ukraine-work-but-was-rebuffed/2019/10/18/81e35be9-4f5a-4048-8520-0baabb18ab63_story.html
) over his son Hunter's employment with Ukraine's Burisma. He also claims he had no idea Hunter was hired to sit on the gas company's board of directors until after the fact.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not a new lie. He was lying that he wasn't aware of his son's position when the news first broke.

Yup. Sure thing. Some random dude that has no credentials to qualify him for the position gets a job out of the country, in a country that the US has had secret dealings with for what appears to be at least a decade. Some random dude who has a kid with a crack whore. Some random dude who happens to be the Ex Vice President's son. Some random dude who's father happened to be VP while he got the job. Some random dude who's father happened to be giving away a billion US taxpayer dollars to the country where his son just happened to be working at without his father's knowledge.



To anybody who believes any of that, I've got another little dose of reality for you.

Epstein didn't kill himself either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
From today's LATimes: Pelosi, Democratic leaders see revised NAFTA as model for future trade deals

Of course they do. The Dims are pro-big business. Their pretext to care about the little person is extremely transparent.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've watched some parts of the debates but listened to them all - sometimes twice.

My conclusion about debates in general are that they're a good place to lose votes, but not a good place to gain them. For example, while I don't like her policies, Klobuchar has always done extremely well, imo. She sticks to her points, and she presents them clearly, in a very 'down to earth' kind of way. She does to some extent what I thought Inslee did extraordinarily, which is to get out of the way of the message. But it doesn't win her points in the polls. OTOH Gabbard's take-down of Harris was the beginning of the end for Harris. (Well, that and Harris was an obvious opportunistic hypocrite whose motto seemed to be 'black AND female? - I got it all! How can I lose?'.)

But how Biden is still running at the top of the RealClear average of polls is still a mystery to me.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
With Quid Pro Quo Joe fumbling, I saw Doomberg entered.

What Party is Doomberg with this week? Is he still a Republican? Is he a Democrap again? A Socialist again? Communist? Interdependant? He-man Woman-haters Social Club?


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
On CNN and PBS 8PM Eastern or 5PM Pacific (no time delay)



Seven candidates qualified for the debate:

Joe Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren
Andrew Yang

Former presidential candidate Kamala Harris also qualified for the debate before ending her presidential campaign.

This page provides an overview of the hosts, venue, moderators, qualifications, and participants.
HIGHLIGHTS
Date: December 19, 2019
Location: Los Angeles, California
Venue: Loyola Marymount University
Partners: PBS NewsHour and Politico
Moderators: Judy Woodruff, Tim Alberta, Amna Nawaz, and Yamiche Alcindor


Booker, Harris, and Gabbard didn't qualify.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I don't know Tim Alberta, but the rest are on the PBSNewsHour, which is one of the m$m news shows I watch. I watch ABC to get a sense over what's the hype of the moment, NBC after a couple of weeks to track how the coverage is changing over time (it refreshes my memory as to what's been said in the past, so I can compare that to what's being said now), and the PBSNewsHour after a couple of months because it's EXTREMELY narrative heavy, and I want to get a look at the narrative after the 'news' value has worn off.

I've actually written emails to Woodruff where I called her names because she's a smarmy, smirking, propagandist, but I didn't send them. I suppose one day I will click on 'send' when I can't take it any more. Imagine Salon as an hour long 'news' cast, with a bunch of people pretending that they're some kind of highbrow intellectuals. It really is that bad.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democr
atic_presidential_nomination-6730.html


It'll be interesting to see of tonight's debate moves any numbers.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




I looked at the previous page. How did my one post get repeated so many times? Oh well ... doesn't matter, I guess.

I was wondering what you wanted me to do about the post ... I wasn't sure.

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Friday, January 17, 2020 2:17 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Now THIS will put some agita into democrats' chances if it gets out very widely:

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Illegal immigrants blocked at border pray for Trump’s defeat, ‘I want Trump out’

Latin American migrants eager to enter the United States but held in Mexico are praying for President Trump’s election defeat in 2020, believing that a Democratic president will open the borders again.

“I want Trump out,” said Honduran Katherine Cabrera, who is being held in Tapachula, Mexico, with her baby.

“Once Trump is defeated, and the Democrats take over, things are going to get better,” added El Salvadoran Brenda Ramos.

The comments from Ramos and Cabrera and others were included in a Center for Immigration Studies border report on the attitudes held by migrants under the U.S.-Mexico initiative to stop unchecked illegal immigration.

The report found that instead of staying home, thousands of immigrants are “gambling” that it is worth staying in Mexican migrant camps in hopes Trump and his policies will go away.

Todd Bensman, the center’s senior national security fellow, wrote, “Dozens of politically woke migrants, like Honduran Wilson Valladaras, recently told CIS their decisions to stay in Mexico were predicated on the Trump-defeat gamble. Valladaras said he would wait for his Mexican asylum approval, move to Tijuana ‘until Trump leaves,’ and then cross over the U.S. border when the Democrats undo his policies because ‘right now, the Americans will throw you back’ to Mexico.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/illegal-immigran
ts-blocked-at-border-pray-for-trumps-defeat-i-want-trump-out

see complete article at the link

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Saturday, January 18, 2020 4:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I heard that, despite Immigration being a top concern among American voters, not a single question was asked about the topic during Democrat/MSM debates. Is this correct?

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Saturday, January 18, 2020 5:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I've only watched half the debate so far, but indeed, there were no immigration questions in the first half.

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Saturday, January 18, 2020 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


What would they say? Would they lie and tell the American public that they didn't all say they want open borders?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 20, 2020 3:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So I FINALLY watched the entire debate.

No new ground was broken.

But I have a couple of observations -

Everyone (except Steyer) was going on and on about how Iran is a such a threat to the US and how important it is to keep it from getting nukes. And I think I wasn't paying close attention and just let the first 2 people wash over me. But after a minute or two it occurred to me that Iran is NOT an existential threat to the US, nukes or no nukes, despite whatever they were going on about. Think about it. The US can destroy the ENTIRE PLANET all by itself multiple times over. Anything Iran does that warrants a nuclear response will be one small whine before it's completely obliterated in a cloud of nuclear dust. Unless Iranians are entirely suicidal, the country isn't going to make any nuclear moves against the US.

THE NAME THAT SHALL NOT BE MENTIONED IS ISRAEL. All of this bs about Iran has to do with ISRAEL - not the US, despite the candidates bleating over, and over, and over they want to keep the US 'safe' from Iran. Well, now we know who they're auditioning in front of in terms of the job, and whose line they're toeing ... and we're not the ones keeping them dissembling past the name ISRAEL.


The other thing is that, having seen everyone involved in the 'she said he said' play it out, I have zero doubt that this was a scheme cooked up between Warren and CNN to try and knock Sanders down and boost Warren.


The debate doesn't seem to have moved anyone significantly in the RCP polling averages. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democr
atic_presidential_nomination-6730.html


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Monday, January 20, 2020 8:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Unless Iranians are entirely suicidal, the country isn't going to make any nuclear moves against the US.




This right here is the key to any of it.

It's why the diseased Muslim ideology needs to be neutered like Christianity has been.

I don't give two shits what Christians did back during the Crusades, which is always the argument from the Woke Leftists when this comes up. These animals are doing it right now, in 2020.

There is nothing as frightening in the Real World than somebody who has nothing to lose and has given up any sense of self preservation. Whether that person was created by life just constantly beating the shit out of them until they've given up, or they've been brainwashed by people through a cult and/or a religion.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 20, 2020 10:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


If the Iranian government was entirely suicidal, they'd have offed themselves by now. That's they're still here isn't for want of suicide opportunities.

btw I think there's been entirely too much mischaracterization of Iranians by the US for propaganda purposes. They're not the Reavers they're claimed to be.

As for wanna-be martyrs, they're often are caught from a wide-cast net gathering up the disaffected ... except for the Saudis, or course, who seems to specialize is creating their own home-brew terrorists from the 9/11 hijackers to the trainees in Florida.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/13/us-calls-shooting-by-saudi-officer-in-
florida-act-of-terrorism-expels-21-saudi-students-from-training.html

US calls shooting by Saudi officer in Florida 'act of terrorism,' expels 21 Saudi students from training
CNBC|7 days ago

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Monday, January 20, 2020 10:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... I wasn't saying that the Iranian people specifically are suicidal, or even in a large part Muslim. I don't know what the percentage is.

I doubt very much many if any at all in the upper echelon of the Iranian Government are suicidal even if they are Muslim. I'm not worried at all about any meaningful war between the US and Iran. Not one little bit.


I'm talking specifically about Muslim robots that have been brainwashed to carry out acts in the name of Allah. Those people do exist, and to this day, not many in the overall Muslim community have come out to strongly denounce this behavior. They need to do that, and let it be known that violent extremism is intolerable behavior. Until they do this, I am among many who find the entire Muslim religion to be an abomination and a plague on this world.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 20, 2020 11:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Ah! OK - now I have your meaning.


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Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There is no doubt in my mind that the dems are running a full-court anti-Sanders (and anti-Gabbard) press.

LATimes

Hillary Clinton ‘absolutely’ stands by criticisms of Bernie Sanders in Hulu doc

Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton over Russia ‘favorite’ comments

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Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Anybody watching the new project veritas expose of Bernie's kids?

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Thursday, January 23, 2020 6:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Anybody watching the new project veritas expose of Bernie's kids?

No. And it doesn't matter to me at all, fwiw, unless he beat them every day or some such heinous act. I care about the policies.

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 4:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Anybody watching the new project veritas expose of Bernie's kids?

No. And it doesn't matter to me at all, fwiw, unless he beat them every day or some such heinous act. I care about the policies.

Sorry for the brevity.

I meant the kids who are senior Campaign workers at the state levels. They go on about how great places Gulags were to hang out, why eugenics and mass genocide are effective tools along with re-education Campos, and how they will burn down American cities if Trump is re-elected.

You should really check out how these Sanders Socialists are really thinking.


Fake News MSM seems resilient in avoiding this form of reporting.

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Saturday, January 25, 2020 5:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I found that 2 people made some untoward statements. Note that they weren't speaking for the Sanders' campaign, they were expressing their personal povs. And for all I know, they were baited into saying these things, and/ or their statements were highly edited.

I can't imagine how MANY people are either working or volunteering for the campaign. What do you think? 2,000? 5,000? 10,000?

Basically, I find the personal statements of 2 people in the campaign to be trivial in the extreme.

Speaking of extreme statements:
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Alt-lite solo media man Mike Cernovich—who has said “diversity is code for white genocide” and “I like choking a woman until her eyes almost go lifeless”—has demonstrated access to the White House through his scoops on personnel matters and Trump’s strike on Syria last April. Both Donald Trump Jr. and Kellyanne Conway have publicly praised Cernovich, with the president’s son saying he deserves “a Pulitzer.”
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The senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller promoted racist fears of demographic replacement of white people by non-whites, disseminated conspiracy theories positing a United Nations-inspired plan to colonize America, and implied a Mark Zuckerberg-sponsored bipartisan organization was promoting illegal voting, according to emails provided exclusively to the Guardian.
Like other emails revealed by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) this week, the messages were sent in an effort to shape Breitbart News coverage with conspiratorial, white nationalist-influenced ideas during the Trump campaign.

You should probably not go calling the kettle any color, if you're a pot.

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 2:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I found that 2 people made some untoward statements. Note that they weren't speaking for the Sanders' campaign, they were expressing their personal povs. And for all I know, they were baited into saying these things, and/ or their statements were highly edited.

I can't imagine how MANY people are either working or volunteering for the campaign. What do you think? 2,000? 5,000? 10,000?

Basically, I find the personal statements of 2 people in the campaign to be trivial in the extreme.

Speaking of extreme statements:
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You should probably not go calling the kettle any color, if you're a pot.

These are thier paid staffers, not merely volunteers. These are the senior staffers ibn their area, or their state. The Sanders campaign has released statements endorsing all of the statements made by these people.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/01/14/project-veritas-highli
ghts-violent-wing-inside-bernie-sanders-campaign
/

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/01/15/project-veritas-rele
ases-second-video-featuring-sanders-staffer-promising-murder-and-violence
/


Yep, they must have been tricked into saying what they really think. Just like Steyer writing on his hand every day TTTT - which he said is the only way he can remember to Tell The Truth Today.

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I have heard that the Trump Campaign had admitted that their top fund-raiser is Nancy Pelosi.


Plus she really boosts the ratings of FNC, and all other rational, sensible, reasonable (aka conservative) programming.

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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These are the senior staffers in their area, or their state.
Dude, you don't help your case by making shit up.

Jurek is claimed to be a 'field organizer'. What does that mean? "Field organizers are managers that work for non-profit organizations, unions, as a political campaign organizer, or with lobbying groups. They are most often in charge of finding, training, and scheduling volunteers or paid canvass workers. Organizers can be in charge of a small team of volunteers, or they may oversee the workers within a region or entire state." I dunno. What IS his area of responsibility? A small group of volunteers?

And I repeat - Trump's supporters, and staff, have made just as many radical statements on the opposite side.

You aren't holy. Everybody else isn't the devil.

And one (or two) people stating their own personal opinions out of tens of thousands is trivial in the extreme.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 3:51 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My only question is, did Bernie have anything to say about this?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 1:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My only question is, did Bernie have anything to say about this?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No, he didn't.

Yanno, the support for Bernie is just another indication of how fed up a lot of people are with the establishment politics of both the Repubs AND the Dems.

Because of the surging protest vote we might actually have two populists running for President this November: Trump, and Bernie. Bernie would Trump a run for his money! But if the Dems try to shoehorn in Hillary (again!) - or anyone else seen as "establishment" - I think they'll go down in flames.

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With Senator Bernie Sanders surging in the polls, DNC chair Tom Perez has put forward a cartoonishly neoliberal cast of foreign policy hacks and corporate lobbyists to sabotage his nomination.
By Kevin Gosztola

Democratic National Committee chair Tom Perez has nominated dozens of lobbyists, corporate consultants, think tank board members, and former officials linked to the presidential campaigns of Barack Obama and Bill and Hillary Clinton to serve on the Democratic National Convention (DNC) nominating committee this July.

Many of Perez’s nominees are vocal opponents of Senator Bernie Sanders and spoke out against his campaign when he challenged Hillary Clinton for the nomination in 2016.

Just as it did in 2016, the DNC appears determined to sabotage a Sanders nomination, foisting a collection of neoliberal and imperialist hacks onto the convention committee to hold back a popular rebellion against the policies of endless war and corporate free trade they have personally presided over.

Democratic National Committee chair Tom Perez issued a list of individuals he nominated for the 2020 Democratic National Convention committees.

Let's examine some of the individuals. I'll initially focus on the nominees for the DNC Platform Committee.

Thread. pic.twitter.com/fVm41YClJQ

— Kevin Gosztola (@kgosztola) January 25, 2020


Only a small percentage of those on the roster, such as Communications Workers of America President Larry Cohen, are even remotely aligned or sympathetic to Sanders’ progressive agenda, and many of them are 2020 superdelegates.

Though the Democratic Party reduced the influence of superdelegates after a backlash from Sanders supporters, more than 700 superdelegates will be able to vote as part of a brokered convention if the Vermont senator is not the nominee after the first ballot. They would not have to vote for Sanders, even if he won a majority of pledged delegates in their state’s caucus or primary.

Sanders could secure enough pledged delegates to win on the first ballot and still find his agenda thwarted by the standing committees. For example, members of the DNC’s Platform Committee beholden to corporate interests could vote against measures including Medicare For All or a ban on natural fracking in the agenda of policies they plan to fight for in 2020.

A close look at the list Perez issued offers a gruesome vision of morally repugnant operatives rigging the game on behalf of a desperate and increasingly discredited party elite.


Denis McDonough was nominated to chair the Platform Committee. He was Obama’s chief of staff during his second term. McDonough is senior principal for the Markle Foundation and a chair of the Rework America Task Force. In 2018, McDonough partnered with Heidi Capozzi, senior vice president of human resources at Boeing, to form the Rework America Business Network. It included 11 founding members: Aon, Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM), Boeing, Duke Energy, Kaiser Permanente, McKinsey & Company, Microsoft, Stanley Black & Decker, Walmart, Zurich Insurance, and 21st Century Fox. The network received support from Google.
Acting on behalf of the CIA, McDonough pushed for more redactions in the torture report summary that was ultimately released by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. He was a close ally of CIA Director John Brennan and fought for Brennan when the Senate delayed his nomination over his past support for torture. He also advised Obama on how to develop the drone program, which involved a kill list of alleged terrorism suspects to be assassinated extrajudicially.

Perez nominated Jake Sullivan to be a vice-chair of the Platform Committee. Sullivan was a national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. He also worked as a deputy chief of staff for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was a senior policy adviser for Clinton’s 2016 campaign. Sullivan is a member of the Alliance for Securing Democracy’s Advisory Council, which also includes Michael Chertoff, the ex-Homeland Security secretary; Bill Kristol; a neoconservative who pushed for the Iraq War; Michael McFaul, the former United States ambassador to Russia; Mike Morell, the ex-CIA director; John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign; and Mike Rogers, the former Republican chair of the House Intelligence Committee...

***
PRO ISRAEL
Bakari Sellers, Dan Shapiro, Meghan Stabler, and Wendy Sherman were also nominated to the Platform Committee. Each has defined themself as a “pro-Israel” Democrat, providing reliable cover to the apartheid state that is increasingly unpopular among younger members of the party.

Reminder: Just an example of how Israel can bring parties together. @AIPAC pic.twitter.com/bpXJRd40 — Bakari Sellers (@Bakari_Sellers) July 26, 2012

In 2015, Sellers became a member of National Council of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). He led an effort [PDF] in 2016 to ensure the DNC’s platform did not adopt language that Sanders supported, which would have acknowledged the Democrats had a responsibility to confront the humanitarian crisis facing Palestinians in Gaza.

Quoting Clinton, Sellers stated, “We must repudiate all efforts to malign, isolate, and undermine Israel and the Jewish people.”... As a CNN contributor and former surrogate for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton, he has consistently attacked Sanders, weaponizing his identity to consistently insist his campaign has a “long way to go” with black voters. And when Sanders entered the 2020 race, Sellers reacted, “I don’t have a problem with Bernie getting in the race; ‘When is he getting out?’ is probably a better question.”

Dan Shapiro is a former US ambassador to Israel who opted to remain in the apartheid state indefinitely with his family rather than return to the country he supposedly worked for.

Maybe WE should have a law forbidding dual citizens from holding political appointments?

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In November 2019, Shapiro wrote a column for the right-wing Jerusalem Post championing the virtues of expanded US military aid to Israel. When President Donald Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, he argued it could help end the “conflict” between Israel and the Palestinians.

After Meghan Stabler was appointed to the Platform Committee, the Democratic Majority for Israel (DMFI) congratulated Stabler, who is a board member: “A truly inspired choice of an inspiring woman.”

DMFI is a lobbying group founded in 2019. Mark Mellman, the group’s CEO, attacked the Sanders campaign for embracing Congressmember Ilhan Omar and activist Linda Sarsour, describing them as “endorsers who hate Israel.” DMFI exists to prevent the BDS movement and Palestinian rights advocacy from gaining traction in the Democratic Party.

Wendy Sherman is a former State Department diplomat and senior counselor for the Albright Stonebridge Group. In 2016, she was appointed by Hillary Clinton to serve on the Platform Drafting Committee.

Sherman voted against a platform amendment that would have merely acknowledged Israel engages in a military occupation. She also opposed removing language that suggested the BDS movement and United Nations resolutions criticizing Israel served to “delegitimize” Israel.

“When these actions delegitimize Israel, or in fact, whether wittingly or unwittingly, create anti-Semitism, then we must say that is not a good thing,” Sherman declared.

The Albright Stonebridge Group is an influence-peddling operation founded in 2009 by former secretary of state Madeleine Albright. In 2016, Albright said there was a “special place in hell” for women who would not support Clinton, and Albright is notorious because she supported crippling sanctions against Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of children.

****
DEEP-STATERS

Tom Perez has nominated an array of US government regime-change operatives to ensure the foreign-policy establishment enjoys total control over the DNC.

James Boland, the president of the Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers (BAC) union, which endorsed Clinton in September 2015, was nominated to the DNC’s Rules Committee by Perez. He is on the board of directors of the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a regime-change outfit President Ronald Reagan established after a political backlash against the CIA in the 1970s.

The NED overtly engages in global operations that stigmatized the CIA as a criminal enterprise when they were carried out covertly.

The National Democratic Institute (NDI), a NED subsidiary that also exists to fund regime-change operations around the globe, has sent two members of its board of directors as nominees to the DNC standing committees: Elizabeth Bagley and Michael Steed.

Bagley is a former State Department official who worked as a Senate liaison for NATO “enlargement,” ramping up the new Cold War with Russia.

Steed is the founder of the Paladin Capital Group, an investment firm that appears to assist “homeland security” companies in their efforts to secure government contracts. Former CIA director and card-carrying neoconservative James Woolsey once advised Paladin. The state of New York has accused Paladin of “pay for play” corruption in their management of pension fund businesses. The firm settled with New York in 2010.

As Dan Cohen reported for The Grayzone, the NDI was involved in fomenting the uprising in Hong Kong.

Claire Lucas worked for the US Agency for International Development’s (USAID) Office of Innovation and Development Alliances (IDEA). She led efforts to expand collaboration with the private sector to achieve “development and US foreign policy objectives.”

As The Grayzone’s Ben Norton explained, USAID is a “central arm of Washington’s hybrid war on socialist and independent states around the world. It has a long and sordid history of funding ‘civil society’ groups and political opposition parties to topple the governments of designated enemies.” In just two years, USAID bankrolled the right-wing US-controlled opposition in Venezuela to the tune of up to $435 million.
Wall Street bankers, corporate lobbyists, and free trade fanatics

To round out his cartoonishly neoliberal DNC committee, Tom Perez has put forward three employees of the Dewey Square Group (DSG), a lobbying firm that has fought against several progressive reforms: Charlie Baker, the president and co-founder of DSG; Minyon Moore, a principal at DSG; and Maria Cardona, a principal at DSG.

Cardona was nominated to co-chair the Rules Committee with former Democratic Congressmember Barney Frank. She is a contributor to CNN and CNN en Español.

In March 2016, Cardona authored a column for Univision in which she invoked the boogeyman of Venezuelan socialism to frighten readers into rejecting the social-democratic policies supported by Sanders. She omitted the fact that the US had worked to destabilize Venezuela since Hugo Chavez’s election in 1998, backing multiple coup attempts and imposing lethal sanctions.

Cardona repurposed the reactionary line of attack in December 2019, questioning Sanders’ “electability” in an op-ed for The Hill: “If [Elizabeth] Warren and Sanders remain among top Democratic tier (they will), Trump will continue to try to paint all Democrats as radical socialists who want to turn the US into Venezuela.”

Cardona worked for the Commerce Department as the lead communications strategist for the passage of the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in 1993. She was a senior adviser and spokesperson for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in 2008.

In 2016, Barney Frank was also the head of the Rules Committee. Sanders attempted to have him removed because he was openly hostile toward his campaign.

Frank is on the board of Signature Bank New York. In July 2018, the New York Times examined this little-known bank and how it became a go-to lender for the Trump family, as well as the family of Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.

Others nominated include the former deputy secretary of labor for Obama, Chris Lu. In June 2016, he offered a tone-deaf answer about the TPP, calling it a “great opportunity for U.S. companies that sell products overseas.” This was Lu’s response to a question about the way Trump and Sanders spoke against trade deals that killed jobs.

Former US Senator Heidi Heitkamp was nominated to the Rules Committee as well. The conservative Democrat and longtime corporate lobbyist is on the board of trustees for the McCain Institute, a Washington think tank that collaborates with corporate executives, arms manufactures, and foreign government officials to advance the late Senator John McCain’s imperialist legacy.

Carol Browner was a Clinton delegate on the Platform Drafting Committee in 2016, and she was nominated to help shape the platform again. Browner is also a senior counselor for the Albright Stonebridge Group.

Browner had a role in the Obama administration working on climate change policy. Along with other Clinton delegates, she voted against all of the following: a ban on natural gas fracking; a carbon tax; a requirement to keep 80 percent of known fossil fuel reserves in the ground; a government test to block any energy infrastructure projects, which would significantly contribute to climate change; and a measure to halt the abuse of eminent domain by the fossil fuel industry.

While on the Platform Drafting Committee, Sanders delegate Dr. Cornel West was so taken aback that he condemned the “neoliberal rationalizations of corporate power” by figures like Browner during the meeting.

Veteran lobbyist Tonio Burgos was nominated by Perez to serve as vice-chair of the Credentials Committee. Burgos’ firm received nearly $1 million from Williams Companies to lobby for the fracked gas Constitution Pipeline.
The Podesta zombie rises again

John Podesta’s name has become synonymous with Democratic Party corruption since his emails revealed efforts to rig the 2016 primary in favor of Hillary Clinton. Nevertheless, Tom Perez nominated him to the Rules Committee.

Like Sullivan, Podesta is a part of the McCarthyite Alliance for Securing Democracy. He and other former Clinton campaign officials still blame Russia for losing and refuse to take responsibility for running a campaign that failed to garner enough electoral votes to defeat Trump.

In a leaked email from February 2016, Podesta agreed “in principle” that Sanders needed to be “ground to a pulp.”

“Where would you stick the knife in?” Podesta wondered.

Back in 2016, a Podesta email chain showed that Perez recommended that the Clinton campaign weaponize identity politics to defeat Sanders and stave off threats to their neoliberal control over the Democratic Party.

“When we do well [in Nevada], then the narrative changes from Bernie kicks ass among young voters to Bernie does well only among young white liberals—that is a different story and a perfect lead in to South Carolina, where once again, we can work to attract young voters of color.”

With Sanders surging among youth and people of color, Perez has summoned his roster of corporate and imperial hacks in one more desperate bid to “stick the knife in.”


https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/27/dnc-perez-regime-change-agents-isra
el-lobbyists-wall-street-rig-game-bernie
/

If I judge people by their enemies, Sanders would be a good choice.




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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 3:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


If the DNC gets its way, it looks like I'll be voting for 'not the democrat' again.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!


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Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



No One Is Above The Law? Hillary Clinton Refuses To Be Served Tulsi Gabbard Lawsuit

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-one-above-law-hillary-clinton-r
efuses-be-served-tulsi-gabbard-lawsuit-twice


Gabbard filed a lawsuit against Clinton last week, accusing the former Secretary of State of defamation for remarks characterizing the Democratic presidential candidate as a Russian asset.

Dunne said their process server first attempted to effect service at Clinton’s house in Chappaqua on Tuesday afternoon — but was turned away by Secret Service agents.

The agents directed the server to Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall, who on Wednesday claimed at his Washington, DC, firm, Williams & Connolly, that he was unable to accept service on Clinton’s behalf, said Dunne. -New York Post


We thought no one was above the law?

In America, no one is above the law.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 16, 2019



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Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


She'll be served. Those people are quite crafty.

Cool that it's a news story already though. What a piece of shit she is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Here are more news articles about how the Deep State - through its members in the DNC - is rigging the primaries against Sanders, and for their corporate-and-Israel friendly proxies BidenA/B/C.


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/31/definition-rigged-system-
says-sanders-campaign-after-dnc-changes-debate-rules

'Definition of a Rigged System,' Says Sanders Campaign After DNC Changes Debate Rules for Billionaire Latecomer Mike Bloomberg
"DNC changing the rules to benefit a billionaire."
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/01/definition-of-a-rigged-system-says-sa
nders-campaign-after-dnc-changes-debate-rules-for-bloomberg_partner
/
"Definition of a rigged system," says Sanders campaign after DNC changes debate rules for Bloomberg
"DNC changing the rules to benefit a billionaire."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/definition-rigged-system-dnc-chang
es-debate-rules-billionaire-latecomer-mike-bloomberg

"Definition Of A Rigged System": DNC Changes Debate Rules for Billionaire Latecomer Mike Bloomberg


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supers-are-back-dnc-members-planni
ng-move-block-sanders-again

The Supers Are Back: DNC Members Planning Move To Block Sanders... Again
Now, however, Politico is reporting that DNC members are again discussing changing the rules to stop Sanders. This follows the selection of Clinton allies to control the convention and a shocking level of anti-Sanders bias shown by CNN at the last debate.



Deep-stater Biden (BidenA) is the favored nominee, but he may not be the sturdiest candidate. And then there are the distinctly non-favorites. So far the DNC (and Hillary) and CNN have waged a smear campaign against Sanders. Billionaires have donated heavily to Buttigieg (BidenB). But Buttigieg may not carry them across the finish line, so the DNC appears to be throwing its weight into Bloomberg (BidenC) by changing its rules to accommodate him. In addition to pumping up corporate-and-Israel friendly BidenA/B/C, the DNC is stacking the deck against Sanders, by filling the committee with deep-staters, and looks to be crafting a plan to bring superdelegates into play who don't have to follow the votes / caucuses of their states.

Am I missing anything about the 'democratic' party?


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Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:28 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

"I Can't Believe the Amount of People Here": As Over 3,000 Rally for Sanders, Influential Iowa Survey Shelved

Turnout at the Cedar Rapids event stunned observers.
This is why they trashed the final Iowa poll. @BernieSanders has a dominant lead and the establishment shit itself. pic.twitter.com/YIsDypiaHW
— Ben Hauck ???? (@fightdenial) February 2, 2020


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/01/i-cant-believe-amount-peo
ple-here-over-3000-rally-sanders-influential-iowa-survey



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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:33 PM

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Quote:

Can Bernie and Tulsi Survive Hillary’s ‘Urge’ to Save the DNC?
Tom Luongo
February 1, 2020

For months now I’ve been convinced that Hillary Clinton will be entering the fray that is the Democratic Party primary season. The affair to date has been a nothing short of high comedy.

Recent events have me more convinced than ever that she will be returning, like some zombie whose head we forgot to cut off, to haunt voters one more time this fall.

After the beginning of an obvious (and planned) PR campaign last week with the release of a big campaign ad documentary on Netflix and a big splash in the Hollywood Reporter Hillary finally stopped being coy. And she announced this week that she now ‘has the urge’ to run again against Donald Trump.

Save us, please, from Hillary’s urges…. Shudder.

And she did so making sure that everyone knew what she thought of the real front-runner for the nomination, Bernie Sanders.

As various anointed ones have dropped out of the race – Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Robert O’Rourke – others have faltered despite huge ad spends while the media and pollsters do their level best to convince us all that Joe Biden’s a serious candidate to take on Donald Trump this fall.

In fact, the only reason Biden is still in the race is to make the impeachment theater going on right now seem relevant and cogent. But, like Biden himself, it is neither.

Then again neither is Hillary, but never underestimate this woman’s narcissistic solipsism.

If you look back on the race to date it’s clear that most of the people running are there to try and distract voters away from the two candidates that resonate most with voters, Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard.

Yes, Gabbard is polling low but if you look at poll numbers versus money spent and/or raised to this point, she’s clearly got cache and the ability to build a real following. And as the field shrinks those distractions become irrelevant. Her poll numbers are rising the more the field winnows.

Neither of them is acceptable in any way to the DNC. They are outsiders within their party. I’m no fan of Bernie Sanders. In fact, I think he’s a terrible candidate — because, you know, commie! — but that’s not the point of this article.

Bernie is surging in the early states and panic is setting in with the DNC. And they must have a plan to stop him from running away with the nomination otherwise we could have two outsiders headlining this fall’s reality show.

And that plan starts with the impeachment and potential removal of Donald Trump.

The impeachment is a distraction for Trump but it is a real problem for the Senators running for the Democratic nomination. They have to spend all day listening to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler lie while they could be out campaigning and raising money.

This hurts Bernie the most because Bernie is the one who will get zero help from the DNC’s big donors. None of them are behind him and with good reason. He’s hostile to most of them (and most of us as well, but that’s a different article).

Of the people running for President as Democrats the only person less acceptable to Wall St. than Elizabeth Warren is Bernie Sanders. Warren’s entire campaign has been designed to push Bernie farther left by out-lefting him at every turn. Bernie says 70% top marginal tax rate, Warren says 77%. Bernie wants debt restructuring? Warren says forgive all student loan debt.

Her job is to make Bernie as unacceptable to mainstream U.S. voters as possible. Unfortunately, that makes Bernie more and more acceptable to a lot of people voting in the Democratic primaries. And this Catch-22 is beginning to show up in the polls for Iowa and New Hampshire.

Then there’s the serious money behind Pete Buttigieg trying to create slightly gayer version of Barack Obama. Again, he’s just another distraction to suck support away from Sanders and keep the field relatively close and the odds of an uncommitted primary season high.

Because the goal is to get to a brokered convention this summer. So, the impeachment was slowed down to hurt Sanders, Warren and Amy Klobuchar and help give Biden the bump he needs to get some momentum coming into Iowa.

MORE AT https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/02/01/can-bernie-and-tulsi
-survive-hillarys-urge-to-save-the-dnc
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Sunday, February 2, 2020 3:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Wish I had a popcorn gif.


Although this is a clown show, these are quite pathetic clowns. Because they don't even know they are clowns.

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Monday, February 3, 2020 8:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Can Bernie and Tulsi Survive Hillary’s ‘Urge’ to Save the DNC?
Tom Luongo
February 1, 2020

For months now I’ve been convinced that Hillary Clinton will be entering the fray that is the Democratic Party primary season. The affair to date has been a nothing short of high comedy.

Recent events have me more convinced than ever that she will be returning, like some zombie whose head we forgot to cut off, to haunt voters one more time this fall.

After the beginning of an obvious (and planned) PR campaign last week with the release of a big campaign ad documentary on Netflix and a big splash in the Hollywood Reporter Hillary finally stopped being coy. And she announced this week that she now ‘has the urge’ to run again against Donald Trump.

Save us, please, from Hillary’s urges…. Shudder.

And she did so making sure that everyone knew what she thought of the real front-runner for the nomination, Bernie Sanders.

As various anointed ones have dropped out of the race – Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Robert O’Rourke – others have faltered despite huge ad spends while the media and pollsters do their level best to convince us all that Joe Biden’s a serious candidate to take on Donald Trump this fall.

In fact, the only reason Biden is still in the race is to make the impeachment theater going on right now seem relevant and cogent. But, like Biden himself, it is neither.

Then again neither is Hillary, but never underestimate this woman’s narcissistic solipsism.

If you look back on the race to date it’s clear that most of the people running are there to try and distract voters away from the two candidates that resonate most with voters, Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard.

Yes, Gabbard is polling low but if you look at poll numbers versus money spent and/or raised to this point, she’s clearly got cache and the ability to build a real following. And as the field shrinks those distractions become irrelevant. Her poll numbers are rising the more the field winnows.

Neither of them is acceptable in any way to the DNC. They are outsiders within their party. I’m no fan of Bernie Sanders. In fact, I think he’s a terrible candidate — because, you know, commie! — but that’s not the point of this article.

Bernie is surging in the early states and panic is setting in with the DNC. And they must have a plan to stop him from running away with the nomination otherwise we could have two outsiders headlining this fall’s reality show.

And that plan starts with the impeachment and potential removal of Donald Trump.

The impeachment is a distraction for Trump but it is a real problem for the Senators running for the Democratic nomination. They have to spend all day listening to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler lie while they could be out campaigning and raising money.

This hurts Bernie the most because Bernie is the one who will get zero help from the DNC’s big donors. None of them are behind him and with good reason. He’s hostile to most of them (and most of us as well, but that’s a different article).

Of the people running for President as Democrats the only person less acceptable to Wall St. than Elizabeth Warren is Bernie Sanders. Warren’s entire campaign has been designed to push Bernie farther left by out-lefting him at every turn. Bernie says 70% top marginal tax rate, Warren says 77%. Bernie wants debt restructuring? Warren says forgive all student loan debt.

Her job is to make Bernie as unacceptable to mainstream U.S. voters as possible. Unfortunately, that makes Bernie more and more acceptable to a lot of people voting in the Democratic primaries. And this Catch-22 is beginning to show up in the polls for Iowa and New Hampshire.

Then there’s the serious money behind Pete Buttigieg trying to create slightly gayer version of Barack Obama. Again, he’s just another distraction to suck support away from Sanders and keep the field relatively close and the odds of an uncommitted primary season high.

Because the goal is to get to a brokered convention this summer. So, the impeachment was slowed down to hurt Sanders, Warren and Amy Klobuchar and help give Biden the bump he needs to get some momentum coming into Iowa.

MORE AT https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/02/01/can-bernie-and-tulsi
-survive-hillarys-urge-to-save-the-dnc
/

I find this disconcerting, and I am not sure if I have all of the info.

Bernie has never been a Democrat, and as a Socialist or Communist is nothing more than a parasite upon the Democrat Party. I can see how the DNC wants to repel him, and I don't understand why they put up with him.

But I don't understand hw this translates to Tulsi. I think I've heard that she does have some similar viewpoints as Solialists or Communists, but I don't see that she has ever been in any other Party besides DNC. She was even Vce-Chair of DNC.

So I don't see the parallel between her and Bernie. I don't see the reason that Democraps are shunning her. Are they sexist? Racist (OK, nevermind, we all know they are)?

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Monday, February 3, 2020 9:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Her primary goal is to get the US out of all its self-appointed overseas 'interventions'. That doesn't sit well with the DNC or its masters.

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Monday, February 3, 2020 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Didn't Tulsi have a falling out with the DNC around the time of the 2016 election?



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 3, 2020 10:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yeah. When she saw their anti-Bernie machinations, she quit as Vice-chair. But her main goal as candidate for the 2020 nomination was/ is to get the US out of its foreign 'interventions'.

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/dnc_vice_chair_resigns_endorses_sande
rs_blasts_clintons_interventionist_regime_change_policies
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DNC vice chair resigns, endorses Sanders, blasts Clinton's "interventionist, regime change policies"


BTW, the DNC hates Gabbard so much they backed her rival Kaiali'i Kahele for her House Seat.

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Monday, February 3, 2020 10:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh.. yeah she sure did.

I looked up "tulsi gabbard" "debbie wasserman schultz" (because I thought I remembered the two of them mentioned together) and I found this from 2017:



I would imagine the DNC hates Tulsi for that one.

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Monday, February 3, 2020 11:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Yeah. When she saw their anti-Bernie machinations, she quit as Vice-chair. But her main goal as candidate for the 2020 nomination was/ is to get the US out of its foreign 'interventions'.

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/dnc_vice_chair_resigns_endorses_sande
rs_blasts_clintons_interventionist_regime_change_policies
/
DNC vice chair resigns, endorses Sanders, blasts Clinton's "interventionist, regime change policies"


ETA: BTW, the DNC hates Gabbard so much they backed her rival Kaiali'i Kahele for her House Seat. So Gabbard dropped out of that race.

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Monday, February 3, 2020 11:39 PM

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double post

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Monday, February 3, 2020 11:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Yeah. When she saw their anti-Bernie machinations, she quit as Vice-chair. But her main goal as candidate for the 2020 nomination was/ is to get the US out of its foreign 'interventions'.

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/dnc_vice_chair_resigns_endorses_sande
rs_blasts_clintons_interventionist_regime_change_policies
/
DNC vice chair resigns, endorses Sanders, blasts Clinton's "interventionist, regime change policies"


ETA: BTW, the DNC hates Gabbard so much they backed her rival Kaiali'i Kahele for her House Seat. So Gabbard dropped out of that race.



Well... regardless of what her goals are, that's not something that the DNC is ever going to forget. (see, your edit lol)

And the Clintons have a lot more pull these days than people give them credit for, I think. Now they are able to do most of their string pulling outside of the public eye.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 2:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Did Bernie get screwed out of the Iowa caucus?

Between the "gold standard" poll being pulled right before the Caucus, and the "app that failed" to report local precinct results, no matter WHAT results come in, nobody is going to believe them.

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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 2:17 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I know * I'm * not going to believe the results!

But what I also want to point out is that while winning Iowa might give a campaign a boost, the Iowa vote only infrequently picks the eventual nominee.

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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 3:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


How come I don't hear any cries about Russians meddling here?

Maybe Russians hacked the brains of everyone working the primary in Iowa and now they can't count to 10 anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Should we start COUNTDOWN To The Fake Caucus Results? How many days will they need to defraud this vote?
I've heard that it is estimated the vote count will be completed just after the start of the State Of The Union Address.

Just never mind that men behind the curtain. !!Flying Monkeys!!
!Flying Space Monkeys!!

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