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Who Is Running In 2020?
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:54 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:03 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Warren has a real problem with lying, and she has a vagina. She's the perfect follow up front runner to Hillary Clinton. The DNC approves. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Warren has a real problem with lying, and she has a vagina. She's the perfect follow up front runner to Hillary Clinton. The DNC approves. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:46 AM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: If you haven't noticed, there has been a growing consensus on the left, long before Bernie had the heart attack, that if you support Bernie Sanders over Warren that it's because you're sexist. Democrats, particularly the DNC, are playing the vagina card again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Here's some links, in case anybody accueses me of making that up. https://www.newsweek.com/msnbc-pundit-sexism-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-iowa-poll-gender-glass-ceiling-1461926 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/27/warren-sanders-are-similar-only-one-seems-know-what-itll-take-win/ This Harpers article is particularly cringe worthy: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a26517395/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-gender-comments-explained/ Jimmy's take on the MSNBC Bernie slam: http://www.yout ube.com/watch?v=9l-DnyNjL08 And the MSNBC slam on the slammer's channel since MSNBC likes taking its videos down: http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=tTCPw8Hr4ew Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:55 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: JSF Could you please post examples? Thanks!
Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Well, darn, I couldn't find the thread where Jack says that Hillary is going to run.
Quote: But I give him all credit for being at the forefront of that speculation, which has been coming up to speed over the last few days. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hillary-rockets-3rd-place-predictit-rumors-swirl-over-2020-run from predictit https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hillary-taunts-trump-2020-tweet-tease Hillary Clinton('s social media team) fired off a response to President Trump's Tuesday tweet that "Crooked Hillary Clinton should enter the race," adding "Only one condition. The Crooked one must explain all of her high crimes and misdemeanors including how & why she deleted 33,000 Emails AFTER getting “C” Subpoena!" Hitting back, Hillary Clinton's Twitter account responded: "Don't tempt me. Do your job." As we noted earlier Tuesday, speculation is rampant that Clinton is going to enter the 2020 presidential race for a third bite at the apple. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elizabeth-warrens-story-about-getting-fired-being-visibly-pregnant-unravels-after Elizabeth Warren's Story About Getting Fired For Being "Visibly Pregnant" Unravels After Documents, Video Emerge Maybe this is why Twitter is abuzz with rumors of Hillary Clinton putting the ol' pantsuit on again to try and knock Trump off the mountain.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Credit doesn't go to me though. I just watch legitimate news sources that fact check and don't push propoganda from either side. Independent journalism is where it's at. I've known of inklings that Hillary was planning on running as early as her book tour was announced. Probably nearly two weeks ago, which was long before Trump made that tweet. It's also suspected that she's not even seriously running. There is an investigation that is commencing into Hillary as we speak concerning her server her e-mails that is getting very little coverage in the Legacy Media, and I'm assuming even on Fox News. It's speculated that her possible run for President will just be a way to get public opinion against the Trump administration for investigating her while she's a candidate for President since that is working out so well for Biden at the moment. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:03 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: If you haven't noticed, there has been a growing consensus on the left, long before Bernie had the heart attack, that if you support Bernie Sanders over Warren that it's because you're sexist. Democrats, particularly the DNC, are playing the vagina card again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Wait. Are you conjuring that MSM is not a Department of DNC? Really? You really conjure that? The media bubble around you must be very strong.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:36 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Wait. Are you conjuring that MSM is not a Department of DNC? Really? You really conjure that? The media bubble around you must be very strong.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:37 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: "What I'd really appreciate from you, Jack, is to stop pumping that bullshit of criticizing only women for something both sexes do, just because they have a vagina and you have a grotch. "
Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:06 PM
Friday, October 11, 2019 7:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Warren didn't say that. What she said (lied) was - I had an experience many women have. And it's true. Many women have that experience. If they didn't Warren wouldn't have used it as common ground. Looking at Trump (for example) - he said vote for me because I'm a fabulously successful man who OBVIOUSLY knows how to get things done. (BTW, I suspect that's why he doesn't want his taxes released - not because of any cheating, but because it would show his VIP claims were pretty faked.) And I don't see you criticizing him for his overweening male ego. Biden lied about an award ceremony, among other things. Hillary lied about landing under fire, among other things. These lies are all told to get people to affiliate with you in some way. And neither sex has the moral high ground on that.
Friday, October 11, 2019 10:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: My point is, Hillary DID say that. And the Legacy Media couldn't stop saying it. Though it has toned down in the last three years, you couldn't escape the gender bullshit in 2016. The fact that Warren hasn't said it yet is actually, no pun intended, PROGRESSIVE. Hey, look at that... it's 2019 and a female candidate for President doesn't need to go around reminding everyone she has a vagina when they're lying to everyone like all the boys do. But that doesn't stop the media for doing it for her though still, apparently. Why should I criticize Trump for his overwhelming EGO, male or not. He ain't my daddy. And besides.. I know he's an asshole. That's why I voted for him. And yanno what? For all the assholishness Trump had on display during his campaign, and all of the shitty things he had to say about Hillary, I don't ever once recall him saying "Don't vote for my opponent because she has a vagina" either. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, October 11, 2019 11:11 AM
Friday, October 11, 2019 4:28 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:55 PM
Monday, October 14, 2019 5:17 PM
Monday, October 14, 2019 7:45 PM
Monday, October 14, 2019 10:59 PM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: They've decided to go with a single debate rather than split it up. Interesting. I'm wondering when and why they made that decision. Last time I heard there were going to be two separate debates. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:50 PM
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: My memory ... so, looking it up Swalwell, Gillibrand, Hickenlooper, Inslee, and de Blasio, who were all in the first 2 2-day debates, have formally dropped out. Others like Williamson are still running though they haven't made today's debate.
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: They've decided to go with a single debate rather than split it up. Interesting. I'm wondering when and why they made that decision. Last time I heard there were going to be two separate debates. Do Right, Be Right. :)Sounds like debates are tonight. Tulsi will be on the same stage, the same debate as BiteMe and Faux-cahontas? O M G I might need to actually watch this tonight, if merely for the entertainment factor. Surely nothing to learn from the group. So far, nobody who has been in a debate has dropped out yet, right?
Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:41 PM
Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:24 PM
Saturday, October 19, 2019 10:24 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:The Democratic Party Should Suspend Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton has gone mad: Hillary Clinton appeared to suggest that Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) is the “favorite of the Russians” to win the 2020 presidential election and is being groomed by Moscow to run as a third-party candidate against the eventual Democratic nominee. ... The Russians already have their “eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” she said, in an apparent reference to Gabbard. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her, so far,” Clinton told David Plouffe, the podcast’s host and the campaign manager for former President Obama’s 2008 campaign. “And that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she’s also a Russian asset,” Clinton added, referring to the 2016 Green Party presidential candidate.
Quote: The responses were appropriate: Tulsi Gabbard @TulsiGabbard - 22:20 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ... ... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ... ... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose. It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly. and Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 20:30 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 In light of the latest slanderous allegations from @HillaryClinton, I challenge her to a debate. It's past time to give the American people the real debate they deserved in 2016, but were denied by the phony DNC/RNC-controlled Commission on Presidential Debates. Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 20:51 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 It's a shame HRC is peddling conspiracy theories to justify her failure instead of reflecting on real reasons Dems lost in 2016. You can slander progressives as “Russian assets”, but you can't hide the fact that the DNC sabotaged Sanders & elevated Trump to set the stage for HRC. Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 21:12 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 HRC's rant is exhibit A for how the establishment is using the new Cold War to crack down on dissent & feed the war machine. Instead of addressing the crises working people face, they're painting progressives as the enemy. It's as if they're trying to lose to Trump again. Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 21:43 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 If HRC really believes all independent campaigns are Russian plots, why isn't she calling for #RankedChoiceVoting to make it impossible for evil foreigners to "split the vote"? Until she does, all this Russia hysteria just looks like cynical McCarthyist left-punching. The Streisand effect of Clinton's shoddy remark will help Tulsi Gabbard with regards to name recognition. It will increase her poll results. With Joe Biden faltering and Elizabeth Warren increasingly exposed as a phony Clinton copy, Bernie Sanders could become the Democrats leading candidate. Then the “favorite of the Russians” smear will be applied to him. Clinton should be suspended from the Democratic Party for damaging it's chances to regain the White House. But the Democratic establishment would rather sabotage the election than to let one of the more progressive candidates take the lead. Voters do not like such internal squabble and shenanigans. The phony Ukrainegate 'impeachment inquiry' is already a gift for Trump. Messing with the candidate field on top of that will inevitably end with another Trump presidency.
Saturday, October 19, 2019 3:52 PM
Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see TULSI GABBARD and JILL STEIN got boost in name recognition! THANK YOU, HILLARY CLINTON! Quote:The Democratic Party Should Suspend Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton has gone mad: Hillary Clinton appeared to suggest that Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) is the “favorite of the Russians” to win the 2020 presidential election and is being groomed by Moscow to run as a third-party candidate against the eventual Democratic nominee. ... The Russians already have their “eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” she said, in an apparent reference to Gabbard. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her, so far,” Clinton told David Plouffe, the podcast’s host and the campaign manager for former President Obama’s 2008 campaign. “And that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she’s also a Russian asset,” Clinton added, referring to the 2016 Green Party presidential candidate. Wait ... what? The Russians have given up on Trump??? Quote: The responses were appropriate: Tulsi Gabbard @TulsiGabbard - 22:20 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ... ... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ... ... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose. It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly. and Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 20:30 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 In light of the latest slanderous allegations from @HillaryClinton, I challenge her to a debate. It's past time to give the American people the real debate they deserved in 2016, but were denied by the phony DNC/RNC-controlled Commission on Presidential Debates. Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 20:51 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 It's a shame HRC is peddling conspiracy theories to justify her failure instead of reflecting on real reasons Dems lost in 2016. You can slander progressives as “Russian assets”, but you can't hide the fact that the DNC sabotaged Sanders & elevated Trump to set the stage for HRC. Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 21:12 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 HRC's rant is exhibit A for how the establishment is using the new Cold War to crack down on dissent & feed the war machine. Instead of addressing the crises working people face, they're painting progressives as the enemy. It's as if they're trying to lose to Trump again. Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein - 21:43 UTC · Oct 18, 2019 If HRC really believes all independent campaigns are Russian plots, why isn't she calling for #RankedChoiceVoting to make it impossible for evil foreigners to "split the vote"? Until she does, all this Russia hysteria just looks like cynical McCarthyist left-punching. The Streisand effect of Clinton's shoddy remark will help Tulsi Gabbard with regards to name recognition. It will increase her poll results. With Joe Biden faltering and Elizabeth Warren increasingly exposed as a phony Clinton copy, Bernie Sanders could become the Democrats leading candidate. Then the “favorite of the Russians” smear will be applied to him. Clinton should be suspended from the Democratic Party for damaging it's chances to regain the White House. But the Democratic establishment would rather sabotage the election than to let one of the more progressive candidates take the lead. Voters do not like such internal squabble and shenanigans. The phony Ukrainegate 'impeachment inquiry' is already a gift for Trump. Messing with the candidate field on top of that will inevitably end with another Trump presidency. The first comment could have come straight from Firefly... There's a special place in hell for Hillary Clinton and women that support her. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/the-democratic-party-should-suspend-hillary-clinton.html#more
Sunday, October 20, 2019 3:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: There WAS a debate, 12 on the stage. CNN carried it and I recorded it, but haven't watched it yet.
Sunday, October 20, 2019 3:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: When you get a chance, could you fill us in on your perception regarding the balance or interaction btween Tulsi, Bernie, Biden, Faux-cahontas? Or any others of pertinent interest? Did Tulsi take down the top 3?
Friday, October 25, 2019 12:20 PM
Friday, October 25, 2019 12:24 PM
Friday, October 25, 2019 12:35 PM
Friday, October 25, 2019 6:23 PM
Friday, October 25, 2019 6:43 PM
Friday, October 25, 2019 8:59 PM
Saturday, October 26, 2019 12:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I just wanted to add this because people keep forgetting and I forgot - that unpopularity was no barrier to Hillary getting shoehorned-in in the 2016 primary. She had net negative ratings - and not just any net negative ratings but historic ones - all the way from her announcement through the nomination and to the election result. Which is why some democrats became Obama / Trump voters, and many more stayed home. But Hillary's unpopularity was no barrier for the democratic party.
Saturday, October 26, 2019 6:40 PM
Monday, October 28, 2019 8:13 PM
Monday, October 28, 2019 8:48 PM
Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:56 PM
Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I just wanted to mention that sadly for the world - and us - Trump will not be able to drain the swamp of the internationalist deep-state - and that's because its tentacles are up the asses of most of democratic party: and that includes Biden (of course), Warren, and Buttigieg, Pelosi, Schifty - I mean Schiff - and many, many others. The only guaranteed exception is Gabbard.
Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:41 PM
Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I just shake my head in sad and disgusted wonderment. And it's not just about the NYTimes - it's also about everyone who believes the propaganda they're fed every day. Yanno, you're (pl) probably not going to understand what's really going on entirely. But at least get a clue that you're (pl) being bullshitted. And now - on to ordering some highly-rated individually-switched power strips from Grainger.
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